Or do they plan to stick with the IL-2 mission format ?

Hi

I think I read sometime back that it would have, but I am just not 100% sure. I mean, I feel pretty sure it was SoW I read that about.

Hmm, Il-2 has dynamic campaigns, doesn't it?

Hmm.. an old military saying.. 'never' assume anything.

I wouldn't call it dynamic. It was more "random" campaigns. Every mission was randomly generated at the start, but it was still scripted while in the air. Every time you ran that mission the enemy fighters would follow the same path every single time, the tanks would move in the same direction regardless of anything. If you flew your aircraft over another piece of territory off the flight path and seen an airfield, would enemy fighters scramble to protect it? No, they wouldn't, and that is not dynamic.

Good point FLA

I think I read that there will be triggers, although I can't swear that I read it I have a big wishlist

...would enemy fighters scramble to protect it? No, they wouldn't, and that is not dynamic

Crossing fingers for airfields detecting intruders and dispatching interception flights

Hmm radar is in there and not much point to radar if not to alert/vector interceptors

Ooh-ooh you mean we'll hear a bell and scramble and have Fighter Command vectoring us to enemy bomber formations crossing the Channel?

Ok I'm going to hold you to that

Ming: "But you promised there'd be vectored flights!"

Oleg: "No caller you just read that fantasy somewhere on the Internet. And btw how did you get my number?"

Developers dealing with whining at two removes

Ming

think I read that there will be triggers, although I can't swear that I read it I have a big wishlist

I read it also. So either we are both a tad daft....or it's almost a fact. Wait a minute, we ARE both a tad daft...ermmm...ok....but I did read it in one of Oleg's little Q&A thingies here at SimHQ (I think)


edit: I remember it because I always thought that was one the big things missing in the FMB.

I also remember the talk of trigger, but at my age any recollections must be viewed with much schetasism skeptisum ....doubt.

From an interview right here at SimHQ between Ian Boys and Oleg in Nov 2006...



PR

I tried searching for the article you mention.
Could you provide a link to it for me please.

Wheelsup

Article link: http://www.simhq.com/_air8/air_265a.html


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I would be thrilled with a DGEN like campaign system...SOW will have that at least correct?

Oleg if you are reading this , OFF (over flanders field P3) has the ultimate offline simming campaign engine.

it's not that big of a departure from DGEN. You can have a set mission parameter , random flights, but the beauty is in the named aces incorporated (a lable and a setting) and the combat report ...wow!

I don't see Off3 having the ultimate offline simming campaign. The only thing I see different from other sim campaigns I've flown is the after action report. If thats all it takes to get more simmers interested in SOW, then by all means lets have it.

Chivas I won't make you feel bad about missing the 1000 (literally from every nation) aces(historical aces) included in the campaign engine for OFF (that you can fly with or against in each sqaudron, in each nation, in each, year that get their kills on the day they are supposed to or die when they are historically suppose to ....and again you can see in your squadron's duty board or maybe in the squadron's newspaper for the day!.....that you can turn on "labels" over the planes in the game and see yourself flying with history etc) but I welcome you in making sure that SOW is all it can be....but more importantly in toasting OFF's campaign engine with a bit of 18 year old Chivas..one of my favorites!

Yes a shot of 18 year old Chivas would go down well. I had hoped OFF would entertain me until ROF came out but I guess FM and DM are more important to me than flying with Bishop and filling out a combat report. I don't use the labels in OFF, especially now that the new patch made them the length of a sentence.

That said I'm glad your enjoying the sim and hopefully many others will feel the same way. We can't afford to lose combat flight sim developers. I guess the correct term would be modder in this case, as its basicly a mod of CFS3 engine.

edit...If I chose to fly with Richtofen in OFF3 on the day he was killed, will he be killed? and if so ,could we tell if it was Aussie ground fire or a Canuck pilot that killed him?

I doubt we will find out what happen to Richthofen , somethings we will never know :-)

I know most of it is illusion (duty boards, ace tracking etc) but what a grand illussion. I'm just in love with that OFF campaing engine. Can you imagine soemthing like that in SOW?

At the very least will it have something similar to DGEN?

I just started a topic about this because I didn't see this thread. So I'm coming over to this thread instead. Yes, I am one to want a full offline campaign system. So I am with you guys who are wanting this.

According the PC Pilot interview, it looks like there will be a very good offline dynamic campaign structure. I just read it a few minutes ago. Good news if I understood correctly!! I just wish the devs for ROF would have been smart and done the same thing. They just turned off half of the simmers out there. Looks like I have found a new home on this forum, not interested in ROF any more and I offended all the fanbois at the OFF forum because I told the truth about how I felt about that sim.
There are some good things about OFF but I despise some features it has.

DGen was not dynamic at all, really, not to mention it had other limiations. DCG was really the more capable program, and if one was willing to do the work, could be sued to create campaigns that were both dynamic AND extremely historically accurate, but of course it never recieved official support.