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#2632769 - 12/12/08 05:19 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black SHark....released? **** [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Well, Gisen, if you don't believe in the use of naughty words we can only assume BS would mean THIS?

Throttle it back guys. Stick to the topic, please.


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#2632813 - 12/12/08 07:07 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black SHark....released? [Re: Gisen]  
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Well, I just downloaded it last night, and haven't had a chance to do much with it yet, but so far the impression has been positive for me.

I'm running it on medium settings on a 1920x1200 monitor, and framerates seem pretty good. Again, I haven't done much yet, so things may bog down later in bigger missions, but I'm running a E6600 stock, 7900GT, stock, and have done no performance tweaking on the BS install, so it looks promising. And medium detail looks pretty good.

And finally someone has made a HUD that seems to work correctly with 6DOF. BoB2's gunsight, unless I'm doing something wrong, is always visible, making it tough to know when you're lined up with something.


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#2632825 - 12/12/08 07:43 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black SHark....released? [Re: Chipwich]  
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Originally Posted By: Chipwich

Other than not completely having figured out the trim function, I'm very impressed so far.


Glad you're enjoying it Chip!!

The key with trim is to trim ALL the time when changing attitudes.

Always have the 3 autopilot stabilization channels on, heading, pitch, and bank. Use altitude mode when needed.

For hard maneuvering and strafing attacks use the flight director mode(disables autopilot control but still has the stabilization modes engaged) but you still have trim in that mode too.

For times you are flying straight and level enroute use the autopilot(flight director mode off) and trim periodically to keep the ball centered.

Cheers!

#2632856 - 12/12/08 08:20 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black SHark....released? [Re: Shepski]  
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Hey Shep long time no talk bud, hope things are going well for you


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#2632862 - 12/12/08 08:33 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Wklink]  
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flipping through the manual and the various threads is really getting me psyched for this sim, I haven't seen so much excitement over a sim since Falcon 4 and IL-2 came out.

I was planning to wait until the boxed version came out, but the download is so tempting...


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#2632874 - 12/12/08 09:03 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: 2Lt_Joch]  
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Thanks Shepski. Will try your tips. At least I have stuck it in the mud yet. When you hit the Trim button do you just press and do an immediate release, or do you hold it for a while? When you release the Trim button do you very quickly return control inputs to neutral, or do you hold the same pressure as before?

The most common issue for me and what sounds like for some others is having to hold a ton of forward stick or down pitch to enable level flight. So in this situation, would the procedure be, press + quickly release the Trim button, followed by a quick return to neutral controls? Also, when people say "use trim all the time" do they mean little repetitive trim presses or holding the trim button in all the time that you are making attitude changes?

TIA


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#2632889 - 12/12/08 09:33 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Chipwich]  
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So the nose pitching up pretty severely with neutral stick isn't my calibration going wacky?

I only had a few minutes to play around with it last night but I noticed that when I took off vertically it pitched up pretty violently. I was figuring on coming home and messing with my controls today.


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#2632895 - 12/12/08 09:48 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: kramer]  
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All this talk about trim is making me... want to go fly the KA-50. wink

and BTW: Thx again, kramer... you the man. wink


#2632906 - 12/12/08 10:06 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Magnum]  
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Just been flying the Russian 'Patrol in the Gorge' mission - It's the first in the mission list. You are supposed to take out several columns of vehicles as they advance on your farps.

So I get the first column using only the cannon. I can overfly the farp and keep going. The second column goes the same way but I use all my missiles and reload at farp2. The third is more tricky, They have missile defence but I get them too. They spawn when you are real close, so I get distance and engage with Vikhrs. This takes time though, and when I get the last armed vehicle my farp equipment is destroyed. I turn back to the second farp. Feeling pretty good now so I give it some stick. At this point the rotors collide and I'm toast. 34 enemy vehicles down and a posthumous medal.

Did I press the trim button? Only every time I moved the stick.

This sim gets better and better!

#2632914 - 12/12/08 10:22 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: kramer]  
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Originally Posted By: kramer
Q: Why does the helicopter pitch up?

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=583711&postcount=42

Q: How does the trimmer work and how am I supposed to use it?

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=572028&postcount=34

Q: This chopper is insane! It turns every which way except my way!

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=569223&postcount=27

Q: Having trimmed the helicopter in level flight, when I press the trimmer again, why does it affect the helicopter’s pitch and speed?

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=568723&postcount=16


Thanks man! thumbsup

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#2632946 - 12/12/08 11:25 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Chipwich]  
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Originally Posted By: Chipwich
Thanks Shepski. Will try your tips. At least I have stuck it in the mud yet. When you hit the Trim button do you just press and do an immediate release, or do you hold it for a while?
TIA


What works best for me is to move the flight controls to set the attitude I want then press the trimmer and release and then release stick pressure.

By "trim all the time" I mean pretty much every time you change attitude or have bigger changes in the collective. Basically when the stick or rudder force feels heavy you should re-trim.

It takes a bit to get used to. smile

#2632982 - 12/13/08 12:27 AM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Shepski]  
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Thanks guys. I had read the FAQ before posting, but guess that it just wasn't literal enough for my simple mind. Although it still seems more art than science, I'm finally getting the hang of it now. One of the challenges that I have is running a two year old rig, and at times I feel like I'm chasing a cat's tail.

Now to figure out how to select weapons...


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#2633075 - 12/13/08 05:40 AM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Chipwich]  
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I've barely scratched the surface so far but all I can say is WOW! Haven't been this excited about a sim since I held that big, blue 3 ring binder with the F-16 on the cover in my hands 10 years ago. Lots of learning to do but one small victory, I've got as many landings as I do takeoffs so far. biggrin


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#2633084 - 12/13/08 06:16 AM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Jeevz]  
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Originally Posted By: Jeevz
I've barely scratched the surface so far but all I can say is WOW! Haven't been this excited about a sim since I held that big, blue 3 ring binder with the F-16 on the cover in my hands 10 years ago. Lots of learning to do but one small victory, I've got as many landings as I do takeoffs so far. biggrin


Same here, but it was Longbow and Longbow2 for me. I'd love to see an AH-64D add-on.


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#2633091 - 12/13/08 06:38 AM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Lucky]  
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I'm glad I've got other people in the same boat with me. I've only had Black Shark for two nights, but I've yet to fire a single munition. I'm still learning how to power-up, power-down and perform (very) basic maneuvers. biggrin

I agree with many of the comments here that this sim really harks back to the Good Old Days of flight sims. Black Shark feels like a MUCH more polished product than Lock On and Flaming Cliffs. It really does feel finished, polished and slick. I'm absolutely loving it.


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#2633123 - 12/13/08 10:44 AM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Pizzicato]  
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So far I'm very impressed with Black Shark. I'm another person who has yet to fire a weapon. I'm still learning the start up procedures let alone how to operate the weapon systems.

I ordered a laser printer tonight so I could print out the entire manual and put it in a binder. I also put several of the producer's notes videos on my PSP so I can follow them while flying.

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#2633242 - 12/13/08 04:37 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Goalie]  
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Well I could almost say I'm in the "no weapons club" but for some reason the training officer left cannon rounds in my bird and I have civvy traffic on and... well... lets just say there was a minor fender bender on the highway. exitstageleft


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#2634345 - 12/15/08 02:21 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Jeevz]  
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great thread, keep ´em coming, the impressions!


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#2634529 - 12/15/08 06:19 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: Freycinet]  
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Does the English version, digitally downloaded, support multicore uP affinity setting
to improve performance?


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#2634532 - 12/15/08 06:23 PM Re: U.S. Version of Black Shark....RELEASED! [Re: AV8R]  
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You have to do it manually each time the sim loads into 3D mode or download a program like PriFinity to have it set automatically. But yes, it improves performance on my vista 32 machine by about 20 frames.


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