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#2583898 - 09/09/08 03:53 PM Unresolved graphic problems  
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I guess I'll have to move to EE2... I've got the GTX 280 and I can't roll back the drivers to 169.xx as such. I've tried 6 ways from sunday to get it to work but to no avail. bummer man... I wuz hoping a workaround or fix would show up on the boards here, but it would seem not... oh well, it was a good ride... hope to see some of you in the skies of EE2 I guess... My sincere thanx to all the guys that have put in so much work thru the years in modding and upgrading this sim.. you've all done a great job and deserve the sim worlds gratitude....

Chek6.... Fanatik

#2583995 - 09/09/08 06:14 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: Fanatik]  
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I'm very sad too! I've got a 280gtx and no Mi-24 for mee :-(

No tip to resolve this problem ?

#2584073 - 09/09/08 07:52 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: ramoule]  
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Having the same problem with my GTX260.

The strange thing about this is, that when i fly in the Apache with arneh's cockpit, the back cockpit makes huge graphical problems, just like any outside view. But the gunners cockpit in the front works almost perfectly. Only when turning my head, there is something like a white trail, which disappears, as soon as i stop looking around...

#2584090 - 09/09/08 08:17 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: ramoule]  
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 Originally Posted By: ramoule
I'm very sad No tip to resolve this problem ?

Perhaps you can consider buying an old graphics card from eBay? I don't think it will cost you a great deal of money. For some easy bucks you can get the game running.

Just my 2 cents.

#2584138 - 09/09/08 09:48 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: Kassie]  
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I'm guessing that Ramoule and Falcon99 are in the same situation as me.... We've got the new high end video card and really don't want to lose it... I enjoy EE but I play other games too and I want the features that my new card brings to those games. I installed EE2 shortly after my original post and have been pleasantly surprised to find out just how nice EE2 really is. I tried the game when it first came out and it wouldn't even run on my machine..... with the latest patch and upgrades from the communituy it now runs great and looks gorgeous... I am very pleased with it and hope to join up with some of you guys in some multi flights soon... Your responses are much appreciated and I'll look for you guys online...

Chek6... Fanatik

#2584145 - 09/09/08 09:55 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: Kassie]  
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The problem with that Kassie is that handicapping your PC with a 7000 series GFX card to run EECH will stop people playing all the lastest games, and after looking at Falcon99's PC spec that would be akin to putting 1969 volkswagon beetle engine into a Porsche.

Has anybody tried throttling there GFX card using RIVA Tuner to see it this corrects the problem? I remember when LB2 was killed off for a period until various CPU throttling methods were discovered, and the Glidewrapper was created to correct the GFX problems.

EECH1 may sleep for a while unless people decide to retain a P4 with 7000 series gfx, or until a driver solution is found im afraid.

#2585122 - 09/11/08 11:30 AM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: Colonel_Kurtz]  
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I'm building a new computer and am afraid EECH will have problems on it...So,,I plan to keep my existing computer(that runs EECH fine) and have the best of both worlds..

You can put a box together really pretty cheap that'll run EECH..

#2585384 - 09/11/08 05:07 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: Fanatik]  
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 Originally Posted By: Fanatik
I'm guessing that Ramoule and Falcon99 are in the same situation as me....


 Originally Posted By: Colonel_Kurtz
The problem with that Kassie is that handicapping your PC with a 7000 series GFX card to run EECH will stop people playing all the lastest games, and after looking at Falcon99's PC spec that would be akin to putting 1969 volkswagon beetle engine into a Porsche.


That is exactly the point. Of course buying an used GF 7950 or 8800 is an option. But it annoys quite alot, always being forced to change the GFX card when switching between Lock On, other newer games and EECH.

There's still one solution for me: My second / old PC. It is an Athlon 3400+ with a Radeon HD 3850 AGP. Of course this card also makes trouble with EECH (the same problems as the HD 4850), but there might be a way getting this to work with the Catalyst 8.2 driver (anything newer seems to fail), as someone wrote around here. If that fails, i still have the option to change the HD 3850 for a X1950 Pro AGP. This card seems not to have any problems with EECH, not even with the newest drivers! And due to the weak CPU, it will probably not be much slower...

One thing is for sure: EECH 1.10.2 will have its comeback for me soon!! \:\)

#2585413 - 09/11/08 05:32 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: Falcon99]  
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 Originally Posted By: Falcon99
But it annoys quite alot, always being forced to change the GFX card when switching between Lock On, other newer games and EECH.



You wouldn't necessarily have to physically switch cards though. Assuming one card is PCI-Express or AGP and the other is one which can use one of the other slots (PCI?), then both can be installed at the same time. And if you have a monitor with several inputs, you could even have one cable from each card into the monitor, and just use the monitor's input selector to choose which one the monitor should use. And EECH allows you to choose which gfx card it uses.

Not that I've tried it, but in theory it should work \:\)

#2585450 - 09/11/08 06:28 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: Colonel_Kurtz]  
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 Originally Posted By: Fanatik
I'm guessing that Ramoule and Falcon99 are in the same situation as me.... We've got the new high end video card and really don't want to lose it...

 Originally Posted By: Colonel_Kurtz
The problem with that Kassie is that handicapping your PC with a 7000 series GFX card to run EECH will stop people playing all the lastest games, and after looking at Falcon99's PC spec that would be akin to putting 1969 volkswagon beetle engine into a Porsche.

Fair enough.

 Originally Posted By: Fanatik
Your responses are much appreciated and I'll look for you guys online...

Second try. 3D Analyze?

 Originally Posted By: 3D Analyze
Emulating lacking hardware feature with 3D-Analyze

If your video card hardware features don't match DirectX based favourite game's minimal system requirements - you can look for those reading on game box and/or game readme.txt file - try to emulate those "moving" your graphics board into minimal category necessary to play it. Following main 3D-Analyze settings to check if you want emulate a DirectX version starting from previous one.

link

I used it several years ago. It's a giant switchboard with all kinds of graphical related options.

#2594319 - 09/26/08 09:29 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: Kassie]  
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Well, nvidia released a new driver, I installed it and still no joy.... bummer... I think that unless the community comes up with a fix for this problem, the game is gone forever for me... nividia is never gonna do anything about it, so I guess I'm just stuck....

#2595106 - 09/28/08 07:08 AM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: Fanatik]  

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I'm selling my whole stick and pedals set-up do to this problem and my disappointment in EECH-2 and the God-Aweful wait that is going on for DCS. I'll play CoH or Conan till I get tired of them. Then maybe come back.

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#2596371 - 09/30/08 07:03 AM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: ]  
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 Originally Posted By: LIONPRIDE
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I'm selling my whole stick and pedals set-up do to this problem and my disappointment in EECH-2 and the God-Aweful wait that is going on for DCS. I'll play CoH or Conan till I get tired of them. Then maybe come back.

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Why do that?Why not play some other nice sims like Falcon 4.0 and IL-2.Youll certainly need your HOTAS and pedals later on.


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#2596378 - 09/30/08 07:46 AM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: FokkerDVIII]  

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I've been spoiled by graphically intense games such as Crysis, AoC, and CoH. I've grown so tired of waiting for DCS-BlackShark and the graphics issues with EECH that I don't think I'll be coming back to flight sims for a while. If I do ... then selling my gear will give me a good excuse to get something more up to date ... \:D

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#2596875 - 09/30/08 08:58 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: ]  
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LIONPRIDE, if you are waiting, why not in the meantime fly EECH2DO.
With graphics options all turned on and at truly high res its a nice looking game. OK, it may be no Crysis gfx, but nice nevertheless.
If I want to fly the Comanche or Hokum I fire up DO, I'm used to the nice looking 3D pits... of course nothing beats Arneh's incredible AH64D pit, but the EECH2 pits sure are nice as well... The 3D 'crew camera view' is still my fav.
DCS ... is that *ever* going to see the light of day \:\) ?

#2596895 - 09/30/08 09:30 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: SimFan]  
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What's the changelog of EE2DO? Is it only 3 new campaigns?

#2597046 - 10/01/08 06:59 AM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: Kassie]  
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Changelog ... well I think that 'under the hood' things have changed for the better.
It is reported (by the company now distributing DO) that there are new objects and the shaders have been improved upon.
I honestly can't say that's true for sure yet, since I am only just scratching the surface of DO, but the new campaigns, especially afghanistan and antarctic sure 'look' nice.
I have yet to encounter a CTD or other serious problem (single player as of yet), so I would say that's a good sign.
It says version 2.0.0 (compared to version 1.02 patched for EECH2 non-DO), so probably things have changed-improved further yet.
Since the GUT is now also 1.8.2 by default playing is fortunately a bit more challenging.
Flying the comanche - visually much better inside compared with EECH1 - I won't go back to EECH1, but the AH64D cockpit (my fav) is still desirable.
Being able to change the in-game language (menues) by simply adapting a few letters (file 'language') is also great. Personally I am oh so glad I bought EECH2+EECH2DO (I had serious doubts when EECH2 first came out because of the many bugs) and in my view EECH2 is now a truly great addition to any simmer's collection (in its own right).
Comparing it to EECH1-modded is not really fair since ... there is only 1 Arneh \:\)

#2602782 - 10/11/08 11:35 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: SimFan]  
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I have the same issue using a pair of eVGA 280 SSC's. tried them in Single GPU mode as well, get the same graphics corruption. Here are a couple of pics:





Don't think any of the settings in the eech.ini file will change anything to help either :-( I do not have this issue under falcon though...?

#2604526 - 10/14/08 05:06 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: DeathBringer]  
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Man, this looks like "Space Invaders" \:\)


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#2605366 - 10/15/08 05:36 PM Re: Unresolved graphic problems [Re: Inkgnition]  
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It may be that I know diddly squat about this but after experiencing the exact same problems as in the pictures above, I persisted with the game, picked a mission, went into the cockpit, came out again, went into another mission, came out again - after about five goes the graphics issue cleared up; no problems at all. So maybe this is just an user interface issue; the interface isn't picking something up the result being graphical anomalies.

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