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#2465568 - 03/09/08 03:52 PM Re: Atmospherics/weather effects [Re: Sim]  
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Looks nice. How many people are working on this project?


Five.


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#2469628 - 03/14/08 08:30 AM Re: Atmospherics/weather effects [Re: Dante-JT]  

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While you're clearly working on the project (unlike Gennadich who seem to have not touched theirs for months), I'm concerned that Thunderworks will be unable to get Jet Thunder out before the technology used is long out-dated. What do you think of this concern, Dante?

#2469937 - 03/14/08 04:14 PM Re: Atmospherics/weather effects [Re: ]  
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Outdated as compared to what? All the uber new sims with their shiny brand new engines??? Oh yeah there are none of those...


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#2470344 - 03/15/08 04:41 AM Re: Atmospherics/weather effects [Re: Colt40Five]  

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You are right about there not being a great deal of good simulators being made, but there are a few developers who keep pushing the boundaries. Thunder Works is one of six companies I can think of that create, or are attempting to create, simulators with complex and realistic flight models (Microsoft, obviously, is not on that list, and neither is Jane's Combat Simulations).

Whenever you realize it or not, in a few years it's quite possible that the technology used in Jet Thunder and the other simulators of this generation will be surpassed by technology developed by companies such as Gennadich, Eagle Dynamics, and Hitech. I would put 1C Maddox Games and Xtreme Simulations International on the list, but they've always been a bit behind (especially 1C Maddox Games, who have always insisted upon using a hilariously antiquated engine with severe limitations instead of making a new one).

And then there is Laminar Research's X-Plane, which is extremely innovative as far as flight models are concerned. However, that's not a combat simulator, and the rest of the simulator is quite dated (such as the graphics and damage model).

#2470347 - 03/15/08 04:53 AM Re: Atmospherics/weather effects [Re: ]  
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Great something new will come out...I'm all over it...until then I'll be fighting the Falklands from the air from both sides of the conflict. Where's the problem here?


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#2470359 - 03/15/08 05:20 AM Re: Atmospherics/weather effects [Re: Colt40Five]  

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[Frown.] If you had read my post more carefully, you would have noted that my concern is that we may not "be fighting the Falklands from the air" before "something new will come out." My concern is that Jet Thunder may be out-dated by new technology from other simulators in development (or their sequels) by the time it is released.

It's not that I see any solution, though. I'd rather see Jet Thunder released years from now than see it released months from now, incomplete and hacked up at the hands of an unethical and uncaring publisher.

#2470538 - 03/15/08 03:39 PM Re: Atmospherics/weather effects [Re: ]  
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Which "next-gen" products do you think will beat JT to market? None that publicly discuss development seem to be as far along as JT.


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#2470604 - 03/15/08 05:43 PM Re: Atmospherics/weather effects [Re: Colt40Five]  
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everything that will come out will be America/Russia Vs .......
not U.K./ Argentina/Fr/GER/IT....


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#2470832 - 03/16/08 12:16 AM Re: Atmospherics/weather effects [Re: joey45]  
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...take that "next-gen" engine! \:\)

#2470997 - 03/16/08 10:10 AM Re: Atmospherics/weather effects [Re: Colt40Five]  

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I would guess that Gennadich's Knights of the Sky, Eagle Dynamics' Black Shark, and 1C Maddox Games' Storm of War: Battle of Britain are the "next generation" simulators most likely to be released before Jet Thunder. I hope you are right, however.

Xtreme Simulations' Fighter Ops doesn't look like it's going anywhere, and I don't think Hitech has even thought about Aces High III yet. These five companies are the only real competition that Thunderworks has in the "serious" aerial combat simulator market, as far as I can tell.

#2471091 - 03/16/08 03:03 PM Re: Atmospherics/weather effects [Re: ]  
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Black shark is current-gen...it is just the normal lockon with new flyables and an updated ME. As for your other candidates, I prefer to fly jets so... \:D


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