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#2455250 - 02/23/08 11:37 PM Question for the community  
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I was just wondering if the community would feel comfortable if maddox passed on the buck to say a group of people like the grennadich team or a well respected group to be put in charge of the game since it seems they are no doing the job. New aircraft, map meshes, ground items etc being submitted to them to be put in the game and let them decide as far as quality. Maybe it could be a little less then tempest cockpit quality to get some of the important ac that seen service into the game. Just a thought what everyone felt. Maybe some 4 engine flyables, carrier based torpedo planes, floats, french, aussie and polish flyables. Some of the things missing from this game and would add to more countless hours of fun.

This game has the potential to go on for many more years. I dunno about you but dont really give a crap about storms of war just not enough content to make it enjoyable. To me graphics just dont make a game. Of course i will still buy it to support 1c, and looking forward to knights of the sky etc and a korean addon, but all that stuff could be added to this same one game kept in one place to make it even greater.


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#2455260 - 02/24/08 12:05 AM Re: Question for the community [Re: Leadspitter]  
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I asked myself the same question, but OM has very recently answered a spate of questions on sukhoi.ru where most of the answers where "no", and unfortunately, this question was there.

I think it is probably not to be understood as "never" as it would be ridiculous, but "not in any near- or say 3 or 4 years-future". I doubt a commercial outfit would take full responsibility even if it happens one day, because I do not think any serious money is to be had there anymore. It would be more a work for a dedicated group of inviduals, I think...

Now why do I think this way? Because it is would be very bad for SoW-BoB business to open now IL2 for community add-ons and consequently to seriously rekindle the Il2 fires...It would probably slow down considerably the transition from Il2 to SoW, and that could very well mean a botched start with dire financial consequences...
We can just hope that SoW-BoB will be a lot more open to third party add-ons, and possibly open enough for projects almost finished but not inserted in Il2 to be upgraded to SoW-BoB level...Now if OM at so very long least was accepting to give some technical guidelines to at least begin 3D modeling work in full...Who knows if would-be great artists are not lurking in the shadows, bidding their time?

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#2455269 - 02/24/08 12:16 AM Re: Question for the community [Re: JVM]  
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for instance..like this hurri cockpit? http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2453416#Post2453416

a fully open and moddable IL2 will in no way stop me from getting BoB,it is still my most anticipated game.


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#2455316 - 02/24/08 01:17 AM Re: Question for the community [Re: Ajay]  
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bidding their time?


A Freudian slip perhaps? ;\)


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#2455435 - 02/24/08 07:52 AM Re: Question for the community [Re: Leadspitter]  
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Well given that a certain part of the community decided to hack and mod the original and go public with it and then fell out with themselves it all seems a little moot. Had Il2 remained secure then perhaps there was some hope for exactly what you propose Leadspitter. In fact that was I believe the very plan. For now I think sadly the Horse has bolted !

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#2455452 - 02/24/08 09:32 AM Re: Question for the community [Re: IvanK]  
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 Originally Posted By: IvanK
Well given that a certain part of the community decided to hack and mod the original and go public with it and then fell out with themselves it all seems a little moot. Had Il2 remained secure then perhaps there was some hope for exactly what you propose Leadspitter. In fact that was I believe the very plan. For now I think sadly the Horse has bolted !


lol

#2455457 - 02/24/08 09:44 AM Re: Question for the community [Re: IvanK]  
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 Originally Posted By: IvanK
Well given that a certain part of the community decided to hack and mod the original and go public with it and then fell out with themselves it all seems a little moot. Had Il2 remained secure then perhaps there was some hope for exactly what you propose Leadspitter. In fact that was I believe the very plan. For now I think sadly the Horse has bolted !


yes its bolted, and for my money its a good job the horse got pissed off waiting for Oleg to come and feed him, nuture him and train him.. and if you visit his new yard, you can see that the guys that stole him from the Maddox stable are looking after him too!..

#2455507 - 02/24/08 01:27 PM Re: Question for the community [Re: Trooper117]  
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The truth is,
Offline I am flying with beautiful startup and real DB605 inside and outside sound, incredible flap and gear rotation sound, better specular lighting,no silly dustbowl on takeoffs,great tire and brake sounds on landing,better gunsights, the FW cockpit fix that folks swore couldn't be done,aircraft that I couldnt fly before including the Typhoon. New Maps with the British coastline rather than a silly little Disney piece of turf off Normandy,beautiffully re colored default maps new winter maps on the way with partial snow for the late winter and spring, better dll's than were shipped with the latest patch which virtually illiminate wavy river banks and expand my view by at least a mile or so,and much more.

IvanK, I have read your past posts here and I can tell you as many others who have been long time members here and have recently seen and are quietly enjoying this new breath of fresh air will tell you that you are completely misinformed. My suggestion to you would be to head on over to that other unnamed site and see for yourself what is really happening. I'm sure you wont be disappointed.
All of these wonderful addons are happening without any changes to the FM whatsoever.
Lastly,as far as that happening, you tell me of a 7 year old sim that this has not happened to.

The folks over at that un named site have been very careful not to allow any mods out the door until they have been examined and tested out thoroughly.Those modes are also tested in Beta as well so as not to screw up anyones downloaded game,plus their working on more stable exe zips for those that are not computer wizards.
"The times are a changin",and for IL2 it's all been for the best.

#2455517 - 02/24/08 01:52 PM Re: Question for the community [Re: RDDR]  
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Plus, well on the way to 6000 members, so something MUST be going drasticaly right!!

#2455542 - 02/24/08 02:57 PM Re: Question for the community [Re: Trooper117]  
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I haven't personally used any of the mods myself, but have been to the un-named site, and it's really great to see all the results from the hard work that's been put in by the modders. My only problem with rampant modding is that it fractures the community. I've seen what it's done to Falcon 4.0, and I only hope that the modding community here can stick together like the Falcon modding community could not.

#2455560 - 02/24/08 03:40 PM Re: Question for the community [Re: WWChunk]  
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"Fell out with themselves". This is something I had'nt heard about... what do you mean?
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#2455566 - 02/24/08 03:59 PM Re: Question for the community [Re: Murph]  
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I have to concur.. it looks bloody fantastic!

#2455604 - 02/24/08 05:03 PM Re: Question for the community [Re: Trooper117]  
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What Trooper and RDDR said. IL2 is now under new management.


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#2455618 - 02/24/08 05:28 PM Re: Question for the community [Re: No105_Ogdens]  
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Can't be @rsed to touch any modded stuff with a ten foot force pike.


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#2455634 - 02/24/08 06:05 PM Re: Question for the community [Re: csThor]  
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#2455644 - 02/24/08 06:44 PM Re: Question for the community [Re: EAF_92 Whiskey]  
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Early rudder MkIXs, Erla hood 109G-6s, Flat canopy 190A-8s, no silly little wheel covers on the 190D-9, skinnable ships, tanks, drop tanks and gun pods and the ability to pick your own Default skins...Whats not to love.

#2455734 - 02/24/08 09:26 PM Re: Question for the community [Re: Phas3e]  
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Whats not to love ? ... abortions like this, from the "other" mod site:




It is supposed to be a Seafang !! And this from the breakaway group of original modders who state they can and will mod anything.... nothing sacred and no regulation

#2455844 - 02/24/08 11:30 PM Re: Question for the community [Re: Phas3e]  
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There is some beautiful stuff there.... but the game will only survive if good mods are authorised, nobody is going to authorise mods without getting paid for it.

Oleg is a victim of his generosity over past free patches containing 3rd party work. If he'd charged a modest amount for authorising them we might not be in this mess!

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#2455878 - 02/25/08 12:06 AM Re: Question for the community [Re: EAF_92 Whiskey]  
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Hey Whiskey : 6DOF



Nuff said \:\)

#2455888 - 02/25/08 12:19 AM Re: Question for the community [Re: IvanK]  
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You are just being silly now to try and prove a point.. I don't even have to have 6dof enabled or any type of mod, just the standard game to get screenshots like that. There are half a dozen if not more aircraft in the standard sim with those kind of graphical problems.. you know it, I know it, and so do many more who own this flippin game..

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