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#2385506 - 11/24/07 09:27 AM FIXED by 1.13: Small problem under Vista  
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In external view, the F-16 becomes transparent. Any ideas?

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#2385524 - 11/24/07 11:09 AM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: tflash]  
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Aw mate, I have the same problem and made a post about a few weeks ago. Apparently this is a known Vista-issue, however, it only appeared on my install after I updated my graphics drivers. Before that it was perfect, so it seems to be a driver issue too.

I've had no success with other (newer) drivers, and don't really want to go back to the older ones. Points is, transparency is not unavoidable under vista. Let me know if you have any luck.



Btw, my install is on a nvidia 8600M GT, 169.09 drivers. F4AF ran perfectly under older 150-something drivers


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#2386136 - 11/25/07 12:37 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: tflash]  
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Well I've been out of the loop for 9 months, and this was an issue with Vista back then. If this means that after all that time, there are still no mature graphics drivers for top end video cards for Vista, then someone needs their arse kicked.

#2387125 - 11/26/07 03:43 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: Ghostrider117]  
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Indeed. I am most grumpy, because not only is the player's jet transparent in external views, but so are other planes. And to make things better, when they dip below the horizon, i.e. are seen against the ground, they disappear completely. My AF is completely unplayable, and RV is so unstable it is hardly a viable alternative.

I shall now proceed to become a paper-plane driver. When is LP's next sim out?

What's really annoying is that it is probably such an easy issue to fix


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#2387235 - 11/26/07 05:40 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: tflash]  
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Fix is easy, Install Windows XP and Vista to dual boot. If you are reading this and still using XP, keep walking round that steaming pile of horse poo called Vista and stick with XP. No more fence sitting for this puppy, Vista is CRAP period.

#2387239 - 11/26/07 05:44 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: Ghostrider117]  
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I hope LP takes a look at making AF Vista compatible, once they get through the relevent portions in their next sim.

Vista is not like moving from Win95 to Win98 or Win2000 to WinXP. Vista is analagous to moving from Win3.1 to Win95. I'd wait until the rest of the development community catches up and Vista receives a few Service Packs.


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#2387253 - 11/26/07 06:02 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: chronoPilot]  
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I swear everytime a vista-problem pops up the smart comments start flying \:\)

For the sake of argument assume a dual boot with XP is not possible; the OP is obviously running in Vista and needs a Vista fix, not another OS.


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#2387261 - 11/26/07 06:18 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: ClayPigeon]  
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I remember one of our OF guys had this problem with an NVidia card under Vista. He said he fixed it with a Vista update which also updated his drivers. Don't know the particulars as I don't have Vista and maybe it won't work for AF but it's worth searching into.

#2387493 - 11/26/07 09:51 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: Kosmo.]  
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Little searching here and at FW and I found http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showpost.php?p=1395845&postcount=54 I don't know if this will help but it sounds promising.

If you want the other searches that I found check http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/search.php?searchid=1025144


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#2388098 - 11/27/07 03:05 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: Panther]  
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Pfff, Vista, crap, crap, crap...
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#2388331 - 11/27/07 08:24 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: Kodiak]  
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 Originally Posted By: Kodiak
Pfff, Vista, crap, crap, crap...
"hides under table"


Vista, whats vista lol


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#2391369 - 12/01/07 02:04 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: Panther]  
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Thanks, I'm looking into this. I first upgraded my ATI drivers with the newer factory catalyst drivers, but no luck.

#2391761 - 12/02/07 06:30 AM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: Panther]  
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 Originally Posted By: *Panther*
 Originally Posted By: Kodiak
Pfff, Vista, crap, crap, crap...
"hides under table"


Vista, whats vista lol


Yup Vista will probably be an a$$-kicker .................in around 6 months or so........but not right now. Till then stick with XP, SP3 is suppose to be released around Jan-Feb 08 . Suppose to increase XP's performance by about 10%.

#2391877 - 12/02/07 01:52 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: .Wombat.]  
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Vista an ass kicker, hmmmm, all it has done to date is kick MS in the ass \:D Kudos to MS for continued XP support, SP3 looks set to rock, and apparently will include a scaled down version of DX10. Perhaps SP3 for XP will include the proverbial barge pole, so you can poke Vista boxes off the shelf and into a suitable container....aka a bucket.

#2410026 - 12/28/07 06:54 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: Ghostrider117]  
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There is an update on the FAQ page of Lead Pursuit website that says they're aiming to release a patch in early '08 to address the Vista problems. I'll be glad of it for one as its now the only game I still need XP around for. Everything else either just works or has been fixed.

#2410510 - 12/29/07 02:43 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: ronster]  
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Good! I'll wait for the patch then!

#2411634 - 12/31/07 03:42 AM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: tflash]  
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I had Vista and an ATI x1950 that exhibited the Wonder Woman invisible texture jet.

Recently, Ive moved to Vista and nVidia 8600GT-OC @ 512MB and no more texture problems,
this with x8 AA, MP and all the other trimmings turned on.

The nVidia 8600GT-OC I got at the local Best Buys for $200. Yes an expensive fix, but
I had other reasons to upgrade that made it worth it at this price.


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#2418920 - 01/09/08 03:09 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: AV8R]  
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Update: So far testing of RC 1.0.13 with regard to Vista/ATI transparency issues has been very positive.
We still have more testing in other area's but it is looking good.

Ed

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#2418997 - 01/09/08 04:13 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: Ed_1]  
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Thanks for the update!

#2419042 - 01/09/08 05:17 PM Re: Small problem under Vista [Re: Ed_1]  
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 Originally Posted By: Ed_1
Update: So far testing of RC 1.0.13 with regard to Vista/ATI transparency issues has been very positive.
We still have more testing in other area's but it is looking good.

Ed


Hi Ed,
thanks for the update.

Have you heard of intermitting failure to draw canopy. It's aspect related from in the pit and external view. NVIDIA 8600M GT Vista laptop.


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