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#2356162 - 10/12/07 06:12 AM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) ***** [Re: Mapi]  
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#2356163 - 10/12/07 06:13 AM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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#2356202 - 10/12/07 08:05 AM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: Butterfly]  
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SIMPLY GREAT!

Thats what I dreamt for since 1999 \:\)

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#2356219 - 10/12/07 08:38 AM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: ukSleek]  
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 Originally Posted By: Malleus
Will there be 3D pilots (own hand, legs, wso's head, etc.) in it like in the Commanche


Probably not. It's a bit complicated getting all the movement right.

 Originally Posted By: ukSleek
BTW..will the cockpit work with both the A & D models?


Not at first, but I hope to modify the cockpit for the A-model later. But Hind has higher priority.

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But will this be the FIRST Apache 3d cockpit to be released into a Sim?


No, not at all. Even going as far back as Longbow 2 it had a Longbow 3D cockpit, albeit not a very good one (by todays standard). And then pretty much everyone since has had it, though most of them have been fairly arcade like:
Gunship! (actually not sure if this is true 3D...)


Team Apache


Apache Longbow Assault


Operation Flashpoint


Plus of course the payware Apache addons for MSFS:





Although I have to say that in my (not very objective!) view the EECH Apache looks the best and is the most accurate already, and it will get better \:\)

#2356268 - 10/12/07 11:34 AM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: arneh]  
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#2356283 - 10/12/07 11:50 AM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: arneh]  
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 Originally Posted By: arneh
 Originally Posted By: Malleus
Will there be 3D pilots (own hand, legs, wso's head, etc.) in it like in the Commanche


Probably not. It's a bit complicated getting all the movement right.


I understand. However, I think even a non-moving body (and wso head) would add a lot to the immersion.

#2356518 - 10/12/07 02:28 PM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: Mapi]  
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IN-CRE-DI-BLE Arneh.
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#2356536 - 10/12/07 02:55 PM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: arneh]  
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Hind cockpit?! For real? Man i love you!!! finaly a hind Cockpit i have waited soooooooo long for this since "Hind" from DI i'm hopping for a Sim whit a Hind and Cockpit.Can you tell us more details please? Will it be in 2D,3D or both? Again thank you for what you did (1.90) and for you are doing!!!!

#2356545 - 10/12/07 03:04 PM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: El Mudjahed]  
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 Originally Posted By: El Mudjahed
Will it be in 2D,3D or both?


3D only. It will be the same sort of work which has been done to the Apache cockpit, plus I plan to change the exe a little more to better simulate the more unique characteristics of the Hind.

#2356579 - 10/12/07 04:03 PM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: arneh]  
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I can't think what to write! Those shots from EECH literally made my heart race faster. If you successfully add in a Hind cockpit it will be a dream come true.

Outstanding work, simply breathtaking!


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#2356669 - 10/12/07 05:26 PM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: Andreas]  
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 Originally Posted By: Andreas
BTW the reason I mostly fly the Comanche and not the Apache is the lack of a true 3D cockpit of the latter.

Same here. Of course I prefer the Apache, cause it's actually operating.

Does it support 6 DoF (TrackIR)?

#2356681 - 10/12/07 05:39 PM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: Kassie]  
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 Originally Posted By: Kassie
Does it support 6 DoF (TrackIR)?


The cockpit? Of course it does, the current 2½D cockpit already does. Well, 5 DOF that is, roll isn't modelled, but I think that's the least important dimension.

#2356703 - 10/12/07 06:11 PM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: arneh]  
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#2356711 - 10/12/07 06:21 PM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: Avimimus]  
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 Originally Posted By: Avimimus


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#2356893 - 10/12/07 10:57 PM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: Mapi]  
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I am totally, completely, honestly stunned at how incredible that cockpit looks. Like someone else mentioned, the lack of a really good 3D cockpit keeps me out of the Apache. That will get me in it and make me stay in it. What an incredible piece of work.


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#2356971 - 10/13/07 01:19 AM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: arneh]  
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I agree. I'm using the emagin HMD and I can get roll modeling through trackIR emulation in EECH, but I just leave it off. A 30 degree FOV makes it far too much of a pain having slight roll of your perspective all the time. I can't see any reason why standard TrackIR+monitor users would want roll, since all you have to do is roll your real head.


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#2356978 - 10/13/07 01:47 AM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: arneh]  
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WOW! Arneh... You are amazing. Not only do you have wonderful programming ability but you also can make 3d models! Looking great I can not wait to fly in it \:\) Best 3d apache pit I've seen yet.

#2357088 - 10/13/07 08:21 AM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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I forgot to ask:

Is there an ETA already?



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#2357097 - 10/13/07 08:47 AM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: shoogar]  
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 Originally Posted By: Mr_Blastman
Not only do you have wonderful programming ability but you also can make 3d models!


Yeah who would have thought! Fact is I've never done anything more than a little experimenting and simple models with 3D previously. This is the first big 3D model I've ever made.

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Best 3d apache pit I've seen yet.


That's what I'm hoping it will be, the best Apache pit made for any sim/game yet \:\) Will be hard to match Lock On Black Shark though, those guys have insane 3D skills!

 Originally Posted By: shoogar
Is there an ETA already?


Q4 2007

#2357099 - 10/13/07 09:07 AM Re: First completly new 3D cockpit! (work in progress) [Re: arneh]  
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 Originally Posted By: arneh

That's what I'm hoping it will be, the best Apache pit made for any sim/game yet \:\) Will be hard to match Lock On Black Shark though, those guys have insane 3D skills!


Sure, they do a good job, but don't forget that BS is a brandnew sim and they code it by themselfes as a team ... EECH is seven/eight years old (!) and was originally not coded by you ... so seen in this light you do an excellent job ...

I played nearly all Apache sims and your cockpit IS the best looking I have ever seen - even with not finished textures. I can't wait to use it \:\)

Last edited by shoogar; 10/13/07 09:08 AM.


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