is that like if you did two fries and a milkshake with the double burger instead of two diet cokes and a salad

the update is what was asked for - any update - update is there is no further information available - that was the update.

So I'm to believe that in two-plus weeks, there has been no progress at all, because that's what the "update" says if you read it your way. If you read it and try to even give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they've not been sitting on their rears for two weeks doing nothing, then the likely conclusion includes that they don't know squat, and that they're probably (just an educated guess) being hung out to dry by 1C.

Putting a smiley behind it doesn't make you less of a snot, by the way...and it's exactly like that, incidentally, except the proper analogy would be giving two fries and a milkshake and then telling the poor slob you gave it to that it WAS really two diet cokes and that he should just RTFM and if he didn't like it, get out. Oh, and also, that the extra burger he was promised (multiplayer) and that is described on the friggin box, as well as the toy surprise, promised with his meal (the Moscow add-on) was tied up in production, so sorry, now that we have your money, we'll just "catcha next time" on those little details.

snot? nm

People asked for an update - they got one. The funniest thing is that the patch will do nothing but nerf the game. Glad I completed it. Hope it fixes the issues for those who cant run the game, but for those who could and dont like the game anyway, more negative post fodder for you when its released.

by the way...and it's exactly like that, incidentally = englisch bitte?

lighten up = if it means that much to you I will send you the money (30 euros !). I spend more on a dinner each day.

edit: MP does work - have you played it?

This is an update and example of customer service (but I suspect the difference will be lost on you):

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1471014

Perhaps a C&D letter is what's *really* holding up the patch?

http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=1147

http://www.the-underdogs.info/company.php?id=407

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_Of_War_%28computer_game%29

and from wiki:


"the Three-Sixty lawsuit

Because C1 Entertainment decided to name the game Theatre of War which is currently a RTS game taht was developed and published by Three-Sixty Pacific, Three-Sixty requests that C1 immediatly change the name of their product."

Lets call it ... ToW - job done

The russian company wont care - but BFC might.

1C seem to be always falling foul of US law, 1st there was IL2 & Grumman Northrop, now this malarky!

We bloody need a patch soon & some well designed community designed missions, is all I can say!

Oh my gosh:

I remember the Gruman issue in IL2.

Patch in 24 hours?

Man, they just keep on digging............

Are you talking? I am downloading the patch as I type this.

Downloading now - I am off today (yay) so I will be testing it. Below are the details as posted on the BFC website;


Battle for Moscow Add-on and Game Patch (v1.3.0.56)

We are thrilled to announce the release of the highly anticipated Theatre of War Battle for Moscow Add-on and Game Patch. This add-on/patch not only adds a new 10 Mission Russian Campaign to the game, but also a full Map Editor as well as many game fixes, additions and optimizations. The Battle for Moscow Add-On and Game Patch is 234 megs in size.

The is the first patch for Theatre of War but we are planning on more content and improvements in the future!

This Add-on and patch will update your game to version 1.3.0.56. Please read below for important information about this patch and Add-on.


Gameplay Patch issues and additions:

* Map Editor Added (accessed via the builder.exe program or in the ToW Program Group shortcut "Map Builder")
* A new 10 mission "Battle for Moscow 1941" Campaign Added. Accessed via the "Extra Campaigns" option in the Campaign List page
* Various fixes and changes to earlier campaign missions
* Improved logging functions to help with determining the causes of certain crashes
* Hot keys for Unit Formations, Movement Modes, Hold Fire and Hold Position commands added
* Better handling of the Reverse Command for vehicles, tanks, SPG's, armored cars and Artillery units
* Various AI behavior changes to units implemented
* Expanded sound system (hear sounds further away and louder in some cases)
* Improved sounds
* Waypoints added for units (hold 'shift' key when issuing movement orders to place waypoints)
* Units no longer stop when they receive a new order
* LOS tweaks - The visibility conditions through forest were changed
* AI Targeting behavior tweaked so that they can better fire on Hull Down targets
* Game speed acceleration/deceleration feature added (accessed via the "Change time speed" hotkey currently)
* Fixed bug with the units boarding certain vehicles
* Some Multiplayer load bugs during client loading were fixed (more fixes will be coming in future patches)
* Fixed AT Guns not being able to have commands issued in some situations
* Fixed Load Game/Save Game errors
* Towsetup 'Autodetect' functions improved
* Mission Editor "wrong application version error" bug fixed
* Improvements to the gun towing process implemented
* Units now better at holding position when they are in defensive positions
* Various Mission Editor errors corrected
* New "License Helper" utility (called License_Helper.exe) added to help those that had issues with the eLicense program freezing or locking up in the past (see note below)
* New manual "Unlicense" short cut added to game program group (to unlicense game without uninstalling)
* Extensive improvements to Performance and Stability (see note below)

Performance and Stability Note:

This patch includes various improvements to the game code to increase performance and stability for regular, hyperthreading and multicore CPU's. Further patches (to be released in the future) will add more optimizations and improvements in this area as well as improvements to Multiplay.

If this patch version exhibits frequent crashes or lockups, while in the past you did not encounter them, we have included a special .exe version which does not include the same performance updates, but includes all the other items listed above. To launch this special version of the game, browse to your game folder and double-click on the file name "ToW_1.4.exe". That will launch a version of the game that has all of the same fixes listed above EXCEPT for the new performance/stability tweaks.


License Helper Utility:

If you have had problems with the eLicense program locking up on you in the past when you have tried to enter your license code, please browse into your game folder and double-click on the file called "ToW_Helper.exe", that should now allow the license system to function without freezing.

Previous Patches Note:
This Battle for Moscow Add-on and Game Patch is all inclusive and includes the same fixes that were featured in the earlier eLicense Freeze Patch and the DVD Compatibility Patch.

Version Note:

This game Add-on and Patch content will be added to download version of Theatre of War in the very near future. If you download your copy of Theatre of War after June 25th, please run the game and check the version # before you install this patch. If your version number is listed as 1.3.0.56 on the main menu screen, you do NOT need to download this patch.

Edit - there is mention of future patches, specifically MP and no mention of paying more (although I dont think they would at this point) but it seems for a first patch its pretty extensive and covers most of the things people complained about.

I shall be back later with how the patch went.

Downloading here too, shame I won't get a chance to play until tomorrow probably.

About the 'lawsuit', well BF have said it's a hoax and considering the poor quality of the wiki addition, complete with appalling spelling and grammar, even before that it wasn't very convincing.

Have fun
Finn

Yeah well the patch has done a beaut on my game playing, my wife is all set to become the 1st ToW widow!

Game runs much MUCH smooother on multicore absolutely no slow down that I used to get at all, in fact a positive boost in all respects. Maybe it's the new compiler that 1C have been complaining about availabily in Russia for up to date compilers/anything tech (That'll be the US DoD you need to thank for that, they really are quite repressive on IP/tech exports.).

Well done BFC/1C job well done 200% improvement Now sort the bloody air support (Typhoon & Stuka + rockets for all + IL2) & a Flak 36 out!

Hmm it will be interesting to get Chaz's thoughts ( if any, I think this may be a silencer apart from building entry & of course MP which isn't broken but isnt all that easy to sort out.). This assumes of course that he dls & plays it

PS: It seems like I did smell some BS over the legal wrangle as I said on the BFC forum!!! Thanks for the info, even if duff, Airdrop01.

I wish smoke was sexy so that more people would ask for it, it's a gaping hole when simulating infantry or tank/at gun fights over open terrain...I hope it gets included in a future patch or add-on. Patch looks good at first glance though.

Have fun
Finn

Ditto the smoke.

But one thing at a time . . .