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#2171367 - 03/28/07 05:48 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe Airwolf]  
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I don't know what you mean by "wrap around" view.

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#2173735 - 03/31/07 10:48 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: MikeRoz]  
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The normal view is top half of the instrument panel, Hud, and forward. The view I'm talking about is a wider angle showing rhe whole panel and forward sky, and pans with the fov. It reminds me very much of the Virtual Cockpit view in JF-15 and Longbow.
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#2173861 - 04/01/07 03:09 AM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe Airwolf]  
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Are you perhaps reffering to the TSH wideview cockpit feature? If so, this can be toggled off in one of two ways. If you use TSHv3, map a key to the SW_VIEW command. Pressing this key will toggle the wideview cockpit on and off. If you don't have TSHv3 but you do use TSHv1 and have the wideview package installed, the [b]TEXTURE_TRANSITION[b] command will toggle the wideview optio. By default this is mapped to a keystroke, but I cannot recall which one.

#2175057 - 04/02/07 05:18 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe]  
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Joe,
I think we're on to something, I think that is the view I'm talking about. I believe I have tshv3, as the last graphic I get before I go into a mission is the TSHv3(yellow tshv3 surround by pics).
As per your last post, I went into Filter Graphics ( the one with the eye), but neither SW_View or Texture_Transition is on the command list.
The tsh v1 Installer on my desktop (left over from installation, and btw do I still need that on my desktop?) has the wideview appied, but not the Hi-res, per the earlier posts in this thread.
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#2175058 - 04/02/07 05:19 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe Airwolf]  
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Joe,
One more thing... I've been looking in the tshv3 manual for a solution. Is there a particular section that may be helpful?

#2175604 - 04/03/07 01:31 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe Airwolf]  
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New TSHv3 commands are described on this page, with SW_VIEW at the bottom. As you have read, all of these commands (with the exception of the CMDS_MODE command) are found in the "Filter Graphics" section of the custom keymapper.

It is normal for TEXTURE_TRANSITION to not appear on the list when TSHv3 is installed; this command was removed in TSHv3. If you want to change the texture transition setting, you can do so in the game options, but not in-flight. SW_VIEW, however, should be there. You say the "Filter Graphics" option are "the one with the eye", but that's not true - "Filter Graphics" is the cube icon. Try there. \:\)

You don't need TSHv1 wideview applied, although if it's already applied and you've installed TSHv3, don't mess with it. The TSHv1 installer on your desktop is only a shortcut and can be removed at any time.

#2176350 - 04/04/07 10:29 AM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe]  
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Joe,
Making progress...I found Texture_Transition "in the cube", but not SW_View. Is it possible I'm not in tshv3,despite that intro window I get right before entering the missions?
Anyway, I mapped Texture_Transition to control+F1, and saved the keyboard layout as a custom. That narrowed the fov to just the instrument panel and forward sky, so the mfds , warning lights are somewhat clearer. Hitting Cntr+f1 now switches between that view and just a close up of the HUD.However, both views are still in the "virtual view" mode(mfds, etc. not focused) and I also noticed the mpcd moving map doesn't work.
Thanks again

#2176443 - 04/04/07 02:27 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe Airwolf]  
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Originally Posted By: Joe Airwolf
Joe,
Making progress...I found Texture_Transition "in the cube", but not SW_View. Is it possible I'm not in tshv3,despite that intro window I get right before entering the missions?
Sounds like you may have overwrote something (prehaps F18.exe) along the way. In any event, you don't have TSHv3 proprely installed because the TEXTURE_TRANSITION command would not be present if you did. I suggest downloading the full version of TSHv3.04 (bottom of the page). This is the latest version of TSHv3. Or even better, you could try a clean install, following the Add-On Installtion Guide.

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However, both views are still in the "virtual view" mode(mfds, etc. not focused)
Jane's F-18 only has a 3D cockpit, which is what I think you mean by "virtual view". There is no fixed 2D cockpit view like many other sims have. What resolution are you using? The lower the res, the muddier things look.

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and I also noticed the mpcd moving map doesn't work.
I doubt something is wrong with your game in this case. Try pressing the MAP button on the HSI MDI page (PB6). \:\)

#2176807 - 04/04/07 09:46 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe]  
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Joe,
I'll have to look for what resolution I'm at when I get home tonight. I'm running the game in ME 2000 capatability mode, so whatever it set itself at is what I'm running.
What res should I be using?
Well, I was going to just kick back and play on the computer tomorrow anyway, so you have just planned my day for me! I'll try downloading v4 first, then I may see how much trouble I can get myself into with the clean install.
I'll describe the carnage for you later!

#2183584 - 04/13/07 07:18 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe Airwolf]  
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Joe,
I just wanted to thank you again for all the help. I downloaded v3 again, and it now runs fine. I may have downloaded it to the wrong folder the first time.
Thanks again!

#2191869 - 04/25/07 03:20 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe Airwolf]  
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Hi guys,

I just tried the DXTweaker as described above in the first post, however I have some issues. I have a GeForce 6600 and running XP.

When I run as described with DXTweaker the Jane's video and all the videos in the campaigns are upside down and very blocky:



Furthermore, the TSH video which comes on after the Jane's one on startup is upside down but NOT blocky:



Everything else in the game *seems* to run fine... However, when I exit the game I get these errors:



Initially I thought this could have something to do with running F18 under Win98-ME compatibility (I run under this compatibility otherwise I cannot hear all sound in the game), but when I tried running f18 undeer Win2000 compatibility mode with DXTweaker all the videos were the right way up BUT looked like this:



And the same error messages appeared after exiting the game.

Could this have anything to do with resolution issues? My desktop resolution is 1280x1024, TSH manager setting is set to "Same as desktop", and my in game resolution setting, under graphics/drivers is 1024x768.

Any other advice or comments appreciated...



Martin.


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#2191881 - 04/25/07 03:43 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: mdwa]  
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The first two video issues are known issues, but I'm not familiar with the second two.

This is unfortunately what happens when we're left with beta software to use as a final solution.

#2192079 - 04/25/07 07:48 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe]  
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Which workaround for the AA slowdown do you use Joe? Do you use DXTweaker?

How slow is the slowdown anyway? When I go to AA mode FPS drops but not below 20. Is this slow compared to others'?

Also what are 30.xx or 40.xx series detonators? Are these drivers?



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#2193592 - 04/27/07 02:11 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: mdwa]  
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Originally Posted By: mdwa
Which workaround for the AA slowdown do you use Joe? Do you use DXTweaker?
None right now - too much hassle.

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How slow is the slowdown anyway? When I go to AA mode FPS drops but not below 20. Is this slow compared to others'?
Depends on your hardware. On my old 9800 it was about 5 FPS. With a 6800GT it was about 15, and with my 7900GT I think it's about 17 or 18, although I can't really remember.

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Also what are 30.xx or 40.xx series detonators? Are these drivers?
Yes, detonators are the name for nVidia drivers. Those versions are quite old at this point and don't support any modern cards.

#2202639 - 05/03/07 05:27 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe]  
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Thanks Joe,

I think I'll just leave as is for the moment, and monitor FPS in AA [concentrating on AG at the moment...]. 20 FPS doesn't *seem* that bad at the moment.

Martin.


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#2206881 - 05/09/07 02:54 AM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe]  
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Can someone please post the DirectXtweaker 2005.2 Beta 1K. It's been two days now since I registered that I haven't received the validation code from the site. Thanks

#2206891 - 05/09/07 03:10 AM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Pickled]  
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Isn't Beta "J" the latest version for Jane's F/A-18. IIRC, Beta "K" was for another program.

#2208045 - 05/10/07 03:14 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Dagman]  
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bump

#2208079 - 05/10/07 03:59 PM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Pickled]  
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I will put Beta J and K on the TSH website this evening.

#2208462 - 05/11/07 12:37 AM Re: F-18 with no banding/AA slowdowns, XP and Vista! [Re: Joe]  
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DX Tweaker Betas I, J, and K are all now available in the "Tools" section of the TSH downloads.
http://tsh.war-fighters.net/index.php?op...=5&limitstart=5

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