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#2166928 - 03/23/07 12:52 PM We're Searching for Information! Can you help?  
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Jasta 11 Fokker D.VII paint schemes?
It is known, than Jasta 11 identification was a red colored nose + wing/wheels struits.(+individual pilots colours on fuselage wings).
So the question is - did anyone know any Fokker D.VII variants exept the only profile and photo of Willy Gabriel`s early production D.VII known to us?
If not then maybe Jasta 11 pilots kept their individual identification colours (such as on Dr.I`s for example) thru all their D.VII`s?

Sources:
Windsock Richthofen Flying Circus
Windsock Datafile Special Fokker D.VII vol.1
Osprey: Fokker D.VII aces part 2

PS: known Jasta 11 identification colours we have for are:
Red - Manfred von Richthofen
Yellow - Lothar von Richthofen
Yelow/red - Ltn, Werner Steinhauser
White/black - Ltn. Richard Wenzl
White - Ltn. Hans Weiss
Orange/Sky blue - Ltn.Willy Gabriel
Red white stripes - 502/17 (unknow pilott)
Sky blue + swastika - unknown pilot

If anyone have any interesting info on this subject - pls contact me:)
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#2166946 - 03/23/07 01:12 PM Re: WE SEARCH INFORMATION! [Re: =FB=VikS]  
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There's a multi-view color profile of Lothar von Richthofen's Fokker D.VII in August 1918, from Kagero's Richthofen's Eleven, Jasta 11, by Andre R. Zbiegniewski.

The plane has a yellow upper wing surface (top wing), red nose, decking, struts, landing gear, axle foil, and wheel covers. The rest of the fuselage and the upper tail surface is yellow also, except for the standard white field on the rudder. The rest of the wings and the bottom of the tail are 5-color lozenge camo fabric.

#2206141 - 05/08/07 09:30 AM Re: WE SEARCH INFORMATION! [Re: FlyRetired]  
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We are searching any photographic images of historic and known places in the following cityes:

Vimy Ridge
Aisne
Messines Ridge
Ypres
Passchendaele
Cambrai
St.Omer
Laon
Lens
Nieuport
Lille
Douai

We are mostly interested in "inside the city" buildings or memorials dated 1914-1918,
and also in tourists guides by these cityes places.

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#2206193 - 05/08/07 11:58 AM Re: WE SEARCH INFORMATION! [Re: =FB=VikS]  
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VikS,

I believe Ypres was substantially in ruins by 1917-18 (?)



(print out of copyright protection circa 1919)

#2206223 - 05/08/07 12:43 PM Re: WE SEARCH INFORMATION! [Re: =FB=VikS]  
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Here's links to aerial/overhead photo and map views of Ypres circa March 1918:

Ypres German Photo Recon Picture

Map plan covering Ypres (1:10000)

(red underlines show approximate locations of the Cathedral and Cloth Hall locations in above photograph)

#2206229 - 05/08/07 12:49 PM Re: WE SEARCH INFORMATION! [Re: =FB=VikS]  
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#2206248 - 05/08/07 01:21 PM Re: WE SEARCH INFORMATION! [Re: Kurdakov]  
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OK, so don't want aerial views like these (of the St.Omer Aerodromes)?

St..Omer Photo Recon Picture

Map plan covering St.Omer Aerodromes

But more like major buildings and structures of the towns/cities from the street-view perspective?

#2206469 - 05/08/07 05:57 PM Re: WE SEARCH INFORMATION! [Re: =FB=VikS]  
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Vimy - Place Republic


Vimy - Boys public School


For Cambrai, you can have 24 pictures There

For St-Omer, 19 pictures There

For Laon, 24 pictures There

For Lens, 32 pictures there

For Lille, 66 pictures there

For Douai, 34 pictures there

I found nothing for Messines, Ypres, Passchendaele and Nieuport

For The Aisne river, there are many towns or villages from which you can also find pictures on the same Site (dedicated to postcards of France in 1900)

#2206485 - 05/08/07 06:14 PM Re: WE SEARCH INFORMATION! [Re: Rama]  
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Great resources Rama!

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Yep... I would love to buy these postcards in full resolution (and send them to GT), but they are too expensives (19.8 Euros for 3 pictures)... so I'm afraid GT can only get them in reduced resolutions.

I'm in the process to scan old 1900 pictures for GT, with lots of pictures of 2 villages (Challerange and Grandpre)... but they are in the Ardennes theater, near Suippes, Mourmelon and the Argonne river... so don't fit actual Viks request.

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Originally Posted By: Rama
Yep... I would love to buy these postcards in full resolution (and send them to GT), but they are too expensives (19.8 Euros for 3 pictures)... so I'm afraid GT can only get them in reduced resolutions.


nono, its quite enough to get architecture style/filling in the cityes even in these small pictures
And thank you!

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I'm in the process to scan old 1900 pictures for GT, with lots of pictures of 2 villages (Challerange and Grandpre)... but they are in the Ardennes theater, near Suippes, Mourmelon and the Argonne river... so don't fit actual Viks request.


And thank you again!

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#2206728 - 05/08/07 10:24 PM Re: WE SEARCH INFORMATION! [Re: =FB=VikS]  
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Pics like these could help?






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This one is especially interesting for the right ground texturing of the front area:



An idea for a vehicule, a van for postal-birds:


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An example for a generic damaged house:


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Originally Posted By: CHDT
Pics like these could help?


Yes!
Thanks:)


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Here's a few more views of St.Omer.



A view at the Cathedral of Notre Dame in St.Omer.



Of the main square in St.Omer.



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VikS,

The village of Vimy was largely in ruins circa 1917:



The German-occupied lines on Vimy Ridge were heavily bombarded during the war, and many/most
of the towns in the battle area were devastated.

Do you want photos of the ruined towns and trenches along Vimy Ridge (and Messines Ridge)?

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Originally Posted By: FlyRetired

Do you want photos of the ruined towns and trenches along Vimy Ridge (and Messines Ridge)?


yes please


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#2207084 - 05/09/07 11:26 AM Re: WE SEARCH INFORMATION! [Re: =FB=VikS]  
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Some pics of ruined towns and trenches areas:


















In my opinion, one thing which is extremely important to get the right feeling of the front area is to make ground textures with mud, bomb craters and plenty of different dead trees with no more leafs.

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Perhaps two pics for generic small railway stations:






And one pic for a generic german hospital base:






P.S. Make "show image", as the pics are sometimes not entirely shown on the forum page.

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