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#2123513 - 01/27/07 09:13 AM Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing  
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Hello falconeers, It´s my first post here in F4AF.

It´s about how campaign works, first day of campaign in Balkans, I destroyed one of enemy Mig21 Squadrons totally. At air base target status showed 0% totally destroyed. But with airfield all destroyed to in first hour of second day, how that Serbians can put in that base another full stack MIg squadron with 18 aircraft 100% operational?

I was playing F4 from microprose long time ago, as I can´t find any new descent simulator I come back last week buying that new AF version. I don´t know how campaign work our if it´s a knowed bug.

thx for any help

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#2123527 - 01/27/07 10:33 AM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: Aulette]  
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#2123530 - 01/27/07 10:43 AM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: Cali]  
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I have lock on and play a lot. But it not have any dynamic campaing like Falcon, and I love F16.

But I don´t wanna change sim, just undertand that. I need know if that is a knowed issue our it´s normal and why?

thx

#2123604 - 01/27/07 02:12 PM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: Aulette]  
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Originally Posted By: Aulette
Hello falconeers, It´s my first post here in F4AF.

It´s about how campaign works, first day of campaign in Balkans, I destroyed one of enemy Mig21 Squadrons totally. At air base target status showed 0% totally destroyed. But with airfield all destroyed to in first hour of second day, how that Serbians can put in that base another full stack MIg squadron with 18 aircraft 100% operational?

I was playing F4 from microprose long time ago, as I can´t find any new descent simulator I come back last week buying that new AF version. I don´t know how campaign work our if it´s a knowed bug.

thx for any help


This is normal. Look for enemy engineer units repairing runways, and enemy aircraft being moved in from other bases. You will probably see loads of AN-24 coalers flying resupply into damaged airbases. Granted the campaign isn't perfect, but it does a good job of presenting a fluid air and ground war. Mush better than 'canned' missions in most other simulations.

#2124098 - 01/28/07 09:55 AM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: Ghostrider117]  
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Quote:
You will probably see loads of AN-24 coalers flying resupply into damaged airbases.


For sure I can see loads of AN24. Ok will destroy that ENG units to see what hapenns

cheers

#2124178 - 01/28/07 02:33 PM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: Aulette]  
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In my opinion this is also "hot game" scripting. The sim wants the gamer to have air to air combat, not a shut down the enemy airforce. The Migs are not rare national treasures but a GM production line. I hope this is fixed in Options someday. We dont all want a bar room brawl in the sky every time out.

#2124273 - 01/28/07 04:51 PM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: Toonsis]  
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Originally Posted By: Toonsis
In my opinion this is also "hot game" scripting. The sim wants the gamer to have air to air combat, not a shut down the enemy airforce. The Migs are not rare national treasures but a GM production line. I hope this is fixed in Options someday. We dont all want a bar room brawl in the sky every time out.


Could very well be, not 100% sure myself. However, it does sound like something related to the acknowledged hyperactivity in the original F4 code.

#2124888 - 01/29/07 01:56 PM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: John P]  
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I don't think so.


What WW2 Fighter pilots say about Angels and Airspeed:

"Nice job of getting down to the basics - love your choice of a cover!" Col. Clarence 'Bud' Anderson

"I have enjoyed reading angels and airspeed, it should prove good reading for all interested in combat tactics and their application related to the fluid air environment and state of technology in WWII years. All the best as you make it available." - Col. Charles McGee - Tuskegee Airman

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#2125392 - 01/29/07 11:13 PM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: Bard]  
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Then what is it ? \:D

I'd been surprised if that was it too, but it's an interesting question.

#2125474 - 01/30/07 12:52 AM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: John P]  
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I have no evidence to support my hot scripting theory but it will take more then a "I dont think so" to refute it. There have been many patches I think that if the production line migs were just a code flaw it would have been fixed by now.

#2125836 - 01/30/07 02:13 PM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: Toonsis]  
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I've seen plenty of campaigns where the enemy airforces have been attrited to the point of inactivity. My dedicated server up on hyperlobby has reached that point on many occasions.


What WW2 Fighter pilots say about Angels and Airspeed:

"Nice job of getting down to the basics - love your choice of a cover!" Col. Clarence 'Bud' Anderson

"I have enjoyed reading angels and airspeed, it should prove good reading for all interested in combat tactics and their application related to the fluid air environment and state of technology in WWII years. All the best as you make it available." - Col. Charles McGee - Tuskegee Airman

NEVER ENGAGE STUPID.
#2128397 - 02/02/07 12:23 PM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: Bard]  
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After successful OCA strikes against runways and destruction of enemy AC, in the latter stages of the war you can be lucky if you see an an24. On the other hand, the wall of migs is always interesting

#2129412 - 02/03/07 09:34 PM Re: Full enemy squadrons allways in campaing [Re: Jex =TE=]  
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How many mig kills does your squadron usually have when the enemy is finally grounded ?


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