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#2086089 - 11/13/05 02:58 AM New graphics card...not much improvement  
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I just bought a 6600GT 256MB vid card; but I'm still not getting the performance that I expected over my old FX 5900 Ultra.
Right now I'm running at 1280x1024 with everything maxed; except scenes (med), terrain preload (50km), and water (med). I also have several FPS fixes installed with LOMAN (explosions, sky, and water). With all of that, I'm still only averaging 15-25 FPS. Usually mid teens.
I've also run 3DMark05, and most of the tests are just crawling...like 1-3 FPS.
I have anti-aliasing turned off, and for some reason I can't use even anisotropic filtering.

Could this just be a driver problem? I have the latest NVIDIA drivers (81.85), and I uninstalled the old ones before I loaded the new one. But I noticed that when I installed the newest ones, it didn't install them into a directory like before. Is this something with the newer drivers?
Any sugestions?

here's my specs:
P4 2.4GHz O/C--> 3GHz
1 GB RAM
Geforce 6600 GT AGP8x w/ 256MB RAM
80GB SATA HDD

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#2086090 - 11/13/05 04:16 AM Re: New graphics card...not much improvement  
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Originally posted by No Use For A Name:
I've also run 3DMark05, and most of the tests are just crawling...like 1-3 FPS.
That's normal.

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I have anti-aliasing turned off, and for some reason I can't use even anisotropic filtering.
Although I wouldn't necessarily expect higher Lock On framerates than what you posted, the fact that you say you can't enable AF makes me think something is wrong with your video drivers. I would try a reinstall.

Also, with 1GB of RAM, running a terrain preload of 100km should helpp the framerate.

#2086091 - 11/13/05 10:59 AM Re: New graphics card...not much improvement  
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You realy have 6600GT with 256MB? I thought that only 6600/256 are plain vanilla 6600..but I may be wrong....

#2086092 - 11/13/05 03:28 PM Re: New graphics card...not much improvement  
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No Use,

I also have a 2.4 Ghz Pentium IV with an ATI X800 XL. If it makes you feel any better, I did not see a performance increase after upgrading from a 9800 XT.


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#2086093 - 11/13/05 05:46 PM Re: New graphics card...not much improvement  
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Originally posted by FireBird:
You realy have 6600GT with 256MB? I thought that only 6600/256 are plain vanilla 6600..but I may be wrong....
yeah, they just came out a few weeks ago. but I don't think they're available in the US in mass quantity yet. Most of the places I looked at were in europe.

Joe;
Is there any kind of program that will make sure all of my old drivers are gone? I've installed the new ones about 3 times, and still nothing.

thanks for the help

#2086094 - 11/13/05 07:40 PM Re: New graphics card...not much improvement  
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Driver Cleaner Pro can be had here . Make sure you read the directions first, or you could be sorry.

#2086095 - 11/13/05 08:33 PM Re: New graphics card...not much improvement  
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No Name, I recently got the 6600GT 128MB AGP. My system is similar to yours, ie. P4 2.53 MHz, (not overclocked though)

Previously I had 9800pro. I can't run LOMAC at your settings, but with the same settings I have had with the 9800 now I do see quite an improvement. Same for IL2 (now super smooth!) and FS2004, but and here comes the big but: Battlefield 2 is now a catastrophy, so is Gun and other similar games. Serious stutters even at the lowest settings. With the 9800 I could run BF2 with 4 x anti alias and 4 aniso and in-game settings to medium-high easily. Still, the 6600GT should make BF2 fly...or so I would have thought.

F.E.A.R., Quake and Doom III do however run smoothly

Needless to say I've played around with all the card settings.

I first used 81.75, then went back to 71.xx (whatever), which improved things a little, but I can't help but feel there's someting really screwy about the drivers. I've used driver cleaner as usual, btw. What I also notice, at least on my system is, that NVidia cards still can't handle anti-aliasing as well as ATI cards?! Does this generally still hold true?

How did you overclock your processor to 3.0Ghz, btw, and what cooling are you using?


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#2086096 - 11/13/05 10:11 PM Re: New graphics card...not much improvement  
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I have a 6600GT and an athlonXP 2800+, and I get similar results to what you've reported. It just goes to show that you need every component to be top of the line to get good performance in Lock On.


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#2086097 - 11/13/05 10:40 PM Re: New graphics card...not much improvement  
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Thanks for the info. I'll try the driver cleaner and see what happens.

Stonor Eagle:
I just O/C using the BIOS (it really depends on your mobo & BIOS)...there's a few web sites that I used for help; probably best to do a search.
For cooling, I use a Thermaltake Sonic tower I bought off ebay; and I have 4 case fans (1 120mm, 2 80mm, and 1 expansion slot fan) in various spots. seems to keep it around 50-52 celcius. (the threshold for a P4 is 55 C).
try overclock.net
they have some pretty active forums to get you started

#2086098 - 11/14/05 01:27 AM Re: New graphics card...not much improvement  
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Thx for info!

I seem to have solved my problem. I had installed NVhardpage and adjusted tthe settings manually, trying all sorts of configs. Couple of hours ago I used the general settings tab, (Performance-Quality) and I thus let hardpage the detailed settings automatically. Now all is running well.

I even got more of a FPS boost in LOMAC and IL2!


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