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#1951217 - 04/07/06 12:52 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced *****  
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Do they need to be 3D? Surely 2D would be enough, like the guys that jump out of the enemy trucks in IL2. The IL2 running truckers don't seem to cause any framerate problem at all. Looking out of the side of the cockpit from at least a few hundred feet and 100mph or so absolute detail isn't important.


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#1951218 - 04/07/06 01:06 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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It is new technology by one maker with no industry standard yet. To tie an upcoming sim line to that is a crap shoot

You skimmed my 'hooks into Aegeia' slightly-info post Neal please give it up mate or I'll start again \:\)

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#1951219 - 04/07/06 04:30 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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No-no! Start again!

A sim that's supposed to do both ways and work on a wide range of PC's would have to have that from the foundation.

2D ground troops? What happens when you get low?

EAW has the little men but only squad and crew numbers.

I do imagine that some version of a vehicle type object could look like troops. There would have to be multiple versions if they needed to be animated. And more, trench version as well as charging attack and cut down dead versions.
It would take something like that that can be plugged into a display system without regard for where the ground is perhaps rolling or broken. But hey, if half the little man is in the ground that is no biggie. It is the ones who would be walking on air that would be the problems.

#1951220 - 04/07/06 06:10 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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Quote:
Originally posted by PC777:

Hi to FlyXwire S~
Hi Paul!!! \:\)

Hey, maybe it's time you linked your Omaka Aerodrome photos here:



Won't be long and we'll all be getting into one of these.......virtually!

#1951221 - 04/07/06 07:52 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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Man, those guys had B@LLS!

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#1951222 - 04/08/06 12:08 AM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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I'me tring to remember who were the #'s 1 & 2 French Aces at the time of one story.

In the bar the then #1 stood up, announced he is the top ace of France and also has the biggest schlong which he then pulls out and lays on the table to back his talk up. So the #2 ace gets up, says he is 2nd best, pulls his out and notes his hairs are more neatly trimmed.

Very Gallic; No Fear! Modesty is for pansies.

#1951223 - 04/08/06 08:04 AM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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OK - If anyone is interested, here are some photo's from Easter last year At Omaka in New Zealand.

Let me know if you would like an original full size copy of any of them, they are about 2 Mb in size.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v640/pc777/Classis%20FIghters%202005/WW1/

You can find out more about this bi-annual airshow from here:

http://www.classicfighters.co.nz/

Regards

PC

#1951224 - 04/08/06 09:34 AM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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Superb shots you got there PC777...Thanks for sharing

#1951225 - 04/08/06 11:44 AM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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It is the ones who would be walking on air that would be the problems

I hereby assert my right to the Hovercraft trademark.

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#1951226 - 04/08/06 12:05 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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Awesome pics!

Any history on the place? How the heck did they come up with so many awesome aircraft?

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#1951227 - 04/08/06 12:57 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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Copterdrvr,

Here's a page from the Classic Fighters 2005 Souvenir Handbook
(which btw features a few of PC777 photos in it), and gives a
bit of the Omaka Aerodrome history:



I don't think the guys from Classic Fighters will mind me including this above scan,
and again, to access their excellent online website link here:

http://www.classicfighters.co.nz

#1951228 - 04/08/06 01:01 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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Having a couple of multi-millionaires helps. Add a couple of syndicates and bobs your uncle.
Lousy typos - CA-19! , harumph

#1951229 - 04/08/06 01:05 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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It'd be nice to have a couple of those buildings available in IL-2's FMB...


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#1951230 - 04/08/06 09:26 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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I must be missing something here. Are all of the a/c replicas or just the Bristol?

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#1951231 - 04/09/06 12:20 AM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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The WWI Mecca still has to be Rhinebeck, New York.

It is worth the journey to see an Alby D.V.a and a Sopwith Camel in a mock dogfight....

http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/collection_airplane.htm


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#1951232 - 04/09/06 03:17 AM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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Copterdrvr,
"For the 2005 airshow we are expecting ten to twelve full-size World War One replica aircraft to take part in the flying display and dogfight sequences. These include the syndicate owned Fokker Dr.1 Triplane built and operated by Stuart Tantrum"

Seems the 5 triplanes are replicas. So that leaves 5 other replicas amongst the roll call.

#1951233 - 04/09/06 07:27 AM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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There are no known surviving original Fokker Dr.1 Triplanes in the world today.

See this excellent site on Dr.1s.

http://www.fokkerdr1.com/

There are very few original WW1 survivors anywhere still kept flying.
The Sopwith Camel at Omaka has many original parts including the engine, however it is also a replica.

I was also wondering which one of you guys bid on this?

http://www.vintageaerofabrics.com/auction/index.htm

Also although I cant find the original eBay entry, here is an article relating to an Original Sopwith Camel that came on the market recently.

http://www.bornrich.org/entry/original-sopwith-camel-up-for-sale-on-ebay

Here is an add for it:

http://www.vintageaviation.net/Original%20Sopwith%20Camel.htm

I have a link somewhere with more detailed information about it, I will post it if I can find it soon.

Now I wonder how long before we can get a USB caster oil blowing device for the PC to get that extra realism from this upcoming sim.

Old Rhinbeck sure is something, I think considering the population of NZ they have not done a bad effort.

PC

#1951234 - 04/09/06 12:44 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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I want that DR.I replica....$82,00(1) would be a steal!!!

Here's the "original" Sopwith Camel eBay advert (I just had to save this one to my Photobucket album when I saw it)!



There really wasn't much left of the original Camel to start the restoration process from, but they did have the airframe's serial plate.

(so it's claimed as an original restoration and not called a replica)



Hey, the USAF has hosted WWI Fly-ins at Wright-Patterson airfield in Dayton, Ohio every two years recently......

http://www.pigstompers.net/fly-in/fly-in.htm

Here's some I took in 2003:


#1951235 - 04/10/06 02:29 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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Gee, I guess this will shoot the "we don't have any idea about the real FM for this era" guys right in the nads.

Looks to me they'll have a crapload of "real" performance numbers to start with.

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#1951236 - 04/10/06 04:22 PM Re: WWI sim, based on the IL-2 engine announced  
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Well nobody much pushes a replica or restored aircraft like their life depended on it as in real combat.........largely because of those "real" numbers displayed above ($$).

Researching WWI "FMs" takes you all the way back "to the beginning". If you understand them, you'll understand anything that comes along later.

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