F-16 is a supersonic jet fighter. But how come I can not feel the speed in the air or with relative to the terrain in this game, even when I put full throttle in my joystick (i have calibrated it in the game). I want to enjoy the speed in free flight, how?

Is it a graphic problem?

Flxchen

There are not that many sims that I know of that convey that feeling well.
I still have great memories in that field with titles like JSF (EIDOS) and F22ADF/TAW.
It of course also depends on the system running the sim.
Anyway, the big 'competitor' LockOn is also far from great regarding sense of speed.
On my system F4AF runs great and feels great, but indeed not like a 1 Mach jet (at least don't think so, cause I never flew in one )

I'm not sure what it is you are looking for but F4 IMO has some of the better speed sensation out there.

Unless you are really down in the weeds (like 100ft), you aren't going to get much speed rush at all.

Most of the time you are just going to get there faster!

I think this point really shows the age of the Falcon engine. Unlike SimFan I think LockOn does a far better job of portraying the speed of the aircraft, especially when flying at low altitudes.

this game never did this well, i have also f4 original and me, well i always loved to fly close to groud since jf15 as i didnt knew how to deal with sams so that was my way of avoiding them,and also i really like doing this. and my spped in relation to static objects do not portrait the rush that should be, in fact i´ve alwyas considered flying falcon like flying a balloon in high altitudes.thats why i used the time compression a little bit to get the feeling.

I find it odd, I have the feeling of speed in this game.

I used to travel alot for a company I worked for and I guess I got used to the feeling of speed from the 737's... So when I'm flying F-16, I do feel it.

actually the lack of feeling of speed can be easily experienced when I adjust the throttle. Although the air speed readings in HUD increases when I increase the throttle, the F-16 does not fly faster as it did.

Another factor of loosing feeling of speed is the engine does not roar when I increase the throttle.

I remember in the original Falcon 4, I saw the same problem at someone's PC.

I would say DID's TAW did best. Lockon did not model it well either.

Flxchen

Just Put a Fan next to your monitor and then turn it on to blow on you = :-)

Lock On does it for me - you ppl ain't flying low enough !

i dont know if its a graphical issue but lock on doesnt do it for me it , its better than falcon for sure, but not as a 900km/h jet would do.....

and falcon still fell like a baloon to me :p

install falcon onto a laptop and take it on a roller coaster, that will give you the sensation of speed. but on the serious side, lock on does do a better job with speed so that's y i have that installed.

Speed perception hangs at 2 things
Quality of the textures and your eyes are better then a monitor and
more important
the angular change of things at the edge of your FOV, Since your FOV is severly degraded you will never get the same feel of speed then you would in RL.

Some games do add a chessy "motion blur" effect if you go fast but thats something that I consider arcadish and not useful at all

One way I've approached this on AG missions is to fly the sim @ 2x time... I usually go in quiet at 50-100 AGL. This seems to most closely resemble the speed of the videos showing mil A/C flying low in the valleys, but I don't know how realistic it is, as I've never been there. Maybe one of the RL guys can comment on this.

You could always build or buy yourself a curved screen and three projectors...

Hi,

It is mostly psychological. If you are there with the jet flying it, thinking ahead, planning your next move then the jet will seem as if it is positively static to the ground vs. flying a jet you've let get ahead of you (you'll know when that happens). It goes from being controlled flight to flight that controls you. You'll suddenly feel like you are going way too fast, and things are happening before you wanted them to.

I think Falcon does a great job. Yes the terrain etc.. adds to the effect, but despite that, it is still "modelled" correctly. The only way it could possibly be wrong is if distance itself was distorted.

--TangoShadow

no no no , you all have this all wrong, i've got this solved ,

just fly using your shift + 9 key,(flyby)

or just hug the terrain on your way to target,

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It's the graphics. Note this does not mean that any other flight sim gives this feeling. In fact i've played none that does this.

Fly in proximity to trees/ground and clouds.

I suggested to LP that they add in 'detail texture', a second high frequency texture shown close to the viewpoint. This would give you a grain texture on the ramp and the appearance of things like shrubs within the terrain textures.

I think this is the definitive answer.