#1767494 - 03/13/06 10:00 PM
Re: Gun/Heater Employment
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BirdShot
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I am better with my eyes than the gunsight. I usually only fire when I'm REALLY close.
Regarding the heater - you don't necessarily need a radar lock. In fact, it's better not to. When you get close and the heater is growling, hit U to uncage the missile's seeker and it will usually start whining. Fox 2. Splash one.
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#1767496 - 03/13/06 11:44 PM
Re: Gun/Heater Employment
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BirdShot
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Ohhh, thaaat. That just means you're extra locked! BS
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#1767498 - 03/14/06 03:46 AM
Re: Gun/Heater Employment
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haq
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214: Hag's Obnoxious Knowledge of Heaters:
Have you ever noticed the BP/TD listed in the MFD?
Definition: BP = ByPass TD = Threshold Detect
BP(default) required the pilot to manually uncage the heater, whereas TD will automatically uncage the heater when a valid heat source is presented.
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#1767500 - 03/14/06 06:09 AM
Re: Gun/Heater Employment
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BearTrax
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Originally posted by Laugher: I'm curious to find out at what range most people open fire with the gun?
With a radar lock, I usually fire guns at 1200 down to 1000 feet if the target is pretty well under control. A little closer than that if I have the victim totally dominated. One good thing about the EEGS is that it vividly reminds you if your tracking is sloppy. I always use it for that reason.
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#1767501 - 03/14/06 06:16 AM
Re: Gun/Heater Employment
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TangoShadow
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Hi, EEGS is tricky to use, but more accurate overall IMHO. Regarding the firing........when I feel I'm close enough and will actually hit him if I fire. Nothing like getting right on their six so they fill the HUD, then firing right into the tail pipe!! Muhuhahahahaha!! --TangoShadow
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#1767502 - 03/14/06 07:47 AM
Re: Gun/Heater Employment
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Laugher
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Originally posted by Speedo: IIRC when the 'winder gets a lock when it is uncaged it makes a much higher pitched growl. Will have to double check.
Edit: Yep, that appears to be it. Load up instant action and settle in behind one of the bombers, with nothing locked on radar. Put the bomber in the boresight circle and you'll get the normal growl. Then, hit uncage and the seeker diamond should jump to the bomber and you'll get the high pitched growl.
Does look like uncage is slightly bugged though. The seeker diamond goes off of the upper left corner of the HUD and doesn't come back. If the target isn't already in the boresight circle or in that area, it won't be locked. IIRC the seeker should keep "looking" in roughly the HUD area. Yeah you're right. I looked at the sound files and the uncaged seeker lock tone is the really high pitched growl/whine. It's called nocage.wav or something. I wonder why they have two distinct tones.
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#1767504 - 03/15/06 05:31 AM
Re: Gun/Heater Employment
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KidVicious
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When firing the gun at an aircraft when using EEGS, you should fire from the most stable or lowest G possible during your solution.
Your funnel has a 1g pipper(horizontal plus and line), death dot (approximation) and 9g pipper that looks like a dash at the bottom of the funnel when it's long and skinny for high G in plane tracking shots.
The closer the death dot is to the 1g pipper when firing inside of 3000 feet, the more accurate your gunshots will be. This is because you've pulled lead pursuit, and slightly relaxed your G before executing your solution with a shot as the bandit passess center mast through your 1g, and death dot.
Don't forget to reload your jet after you fire, in case you don't score a good hit, and you can try to come back for another shot.
Also, don't pay all that much attention to the funnel touching the wingtips unless you've dialed in the wingspan for the funnel of the aircraft your dogfighting against.
Furthermore, you always want to aim at the fuselage with your shots because the hitbox only registers a rectangular box around the fuselage, extending from the nose cone; back to the nozzle; and only part of the way up the vertical stabilizer. This means no wing shots will register, because the hitbox is not that wide. Contoured hitboxes are still not incorporated into falcon.
This only covers alittle on the EEGS system, but snap is also another good one when scissoring, or 1 circle.
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