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#1728720 - 03/03/06 04:47 AM Anthology Version of LB2  
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Do any of you have the Anthology version of LB2 running successfully without any control glitches, such as repeat keypresses, the program thinking shift/ctrl/alt are being presses when they aren't, or control lock-ups?


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#1728721 - 03/03/06 05:00 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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I've had two CTDs in the last hour, too. "memory could not be read" nonsense. I also get no engine meters in the Kiowa's 3D pit.


The term "necroposting" was invented by a person with no social memory beyond a year. People with a similar hangup are those o.k. with the internet being transient vapor.

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#1728722 - 03/03/06 08:23 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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Huh...I just tried D3D for the hell of it, and amazingly it's working. I still have most of the control glitches, but the fps is extreme. Odd that the LB 3D pit MFDs have never worked, but the Kiowa and Blackhawk ones are fine.

Again, is there anyone successfully using the Anthology version without the control glitches?


The term "necroposting" was invented by a person with no social memory beyond a year. People with a similar hangup are those o.k. with the internet being transient vapor.

http://www.openfuelstandard.org/2011/12/methanol-wins-open-wager.html

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#1728723 - 03/03/06 10:45 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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I've heard both good and bad about LBA but I've heard alot more good than bad with regular LB2.
Is the keyboard a USB? Tried a PS/2 keyboard?
Sticky shft/alt/ctl is usually the keyboard's fault. Some get stuck-keys easier than others. Generally USB-keyboards are more common to produce this problem.
Regarding your RAM error-msg, what RAM tweaks have you done?
Limitted the amount to 366 or 512? Set the heap-value in ca.ini? MS compatibility-kit?

#1728724 - 03/04/06 03:29 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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It's not the keyboard. Even if I completely uninstall the keyboard and mouse, turn off key repeat in the bios AND Windows Xp, use a different joystick...doesn't matter. The repeats/key-sticks/control-lockups are coming from within the Longbow program itself. The motherboard and peripherals are not causing this. I've even tried having every use of shift, alt, and ctrl as the left ones. Then I tried only using the right ones...no difference. And the longer the program runs, the worse it gets.


The term "necroposting" was invented by a person with no social memory beyond a year. People with a similar hangup are those o.k. with the internet being transient vapor.

http://www.openfuelstandard.org/2011/12/methanol-wins-open-wager.html

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#1728725 - 03/05/06 08:40 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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I've got the regular LB2 as well as the anthology CD's. I'll try installing the anthology version onto my laptop and report back with my results.

#1728726 - 03/05/06 10:50 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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Thanks.


The term "necroposting" was invented by a person with no social memory beyond a year. People with a similar hangup are those o.k. with the internet being transient vapor.

http://www.openfuelstandard.org/2011/12/methanol-wins-open-wager.html

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#1728727 - 03/07/06 08:24 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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I installed LB2 anthology version without any problems and it's running quite well with DgV. I haven't figured out how to configure the controls since the numpad keys aren't so easy to use on a laptop. I might pick up a cheap usb keyboard and then see how the game runs over a 2 or 3 hr gaming session.

I used the custom install option and only installed LB2. All textures were selected at highest detail and the controls were set up for expert. I ran the 2.09 patch but I don't think anything was installed. I also applied the DDU patch and added the heap value. Lastly, I used the Windows application toolkit 3.0 method to limit memory with the WAC-LB2.ZIP file.

Reticuli, what specific problems did you want me to keep an eye out for? Just an issue with "sticky" keys?

#1728728 - 03/07/06 10:24 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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Yes. Losing control response. The program thinking shift, control, or alt is being pushed, etc. Often when it first starts up it treats PNVS as Pause. And other times on startup it won't even turn off the rotor brake, or seems like it's being hit repeatedly. Hitting Alt and using the stick to pan the FLIR often wouldn't turn off afterwards. MP this weekend had a lot of that. Every once in a while I wouldn't be able to change master modes or I'd lose every control axis except rudder. I'd have to go through and push every alt/shift/ctrl key once to fix it, yet having just the X-52 or the keyboard as the only devices connected doesn't help, either. I also noticed that having the slider with "V" for comms always activated (slid up) in single player mode reduced it, almost like it needed a constant key input to clear a cache, or something. I've seen quite a number of people experience this, with multiple hellfires shooting off at once when they only wanted one.

When I try installing the 2209 patch it tells me the files aren't the same so it says it has done nothing. But if I don't attempt it I can't get the DDU patch to install next. I remember one of these fixing a problem with Autopilot turning off on its own or repeatedly being pressed. I'm wondering if Anthology has only part of the 2209 patch changes and can't accept all of them from the patch since it thinks it doesn't need it. Yet the patch does something, because it's required to use the DDU patch.


The term "necroposting" was invented by a person with no social memory beyond a year. People with a similar hangup are those o.k. with the internet being transient vapor.

http://www.openfuelstandard.org/2011/12/methanol-wins-open-wager.html

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#1728729 - 03/07/06 09:22 PM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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Forgive this rookie question...

but is LB Anthology = Longbow2 plus?

Is it the same thing I have as LongBow2?

Guess Im at a loss as to why LBA would be any different than LB2 (plus patches?)


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#1728730 - 03/08/06 05:28 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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I *think* Anthology is both original Longbow, its Korea expansion, and Longbow 2.

It makes sense that a repackage would be patched up to the final ersion, but I'm only speculating.


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#1728731 - 03/08/06 08:56 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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LBA does indeed come with LB2 ver. 2209F.
But I have heard abou issues that does'nt happen with normal LB2. Just can't remember what at the moment.

#1728732 - 03/08/06 01:29 PM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  

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Check The Buy/Sell/Trade section of the boards ... I'm selling a Longbow Anthology 4-Disk set ... if anyone is interested.


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#1728733 - 03/08/06 09:29 PM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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As others have mentioned, LBA is the collection of the entire Longbow series in a 4 CD set. The spiral bound manual that comes with it is confusing to read because it covers the different versions of Longbow in the same sections and chapters. The LB2 manual is much clearer. I don't think there's any difference between LBA and LB2.

Reticuli, I flew a couple of missions last night for about an hour and everything seemed to be fine. I'll keep checking when I have more time. What I'll do is toggle through the master modes more frequently to see if it jams, use the shift, alt, and ctrl key combinations more often, and I'll also spend more time in the gunners position manually designating targets and see if anything happens. My laptop's running XP home with a gig of ram, some kind of ATI graphics chip, and an Athlon64 3500+. I bought a usb keyboard with a built in hub for my Logitech joystick (the one with the twist grip).

BTW, I'm using the no-CD solution that +G has on his site. I don't know if that makes a difference?

#1728734 - 03/09/06 12:56 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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I'm not using the no-CD solution. I have no idea if that makes a difference.


The term "necroposting" was invented by a person with no social memory beyond a year. People with a similar hangup are those o.k. with the internet being transient vapor.

http://www.openfuelstandard.org/2011/12/methanol-wins-open-wager.html

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#1728735 - 03/10/06 07:14 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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Reticuli, I'm using the 9 step no-cd instructions on this page - http://www.speichts.com/games/lb2/fine_tuning.html

I've spent a little over 2hrs with LB2 tonight and I haven't encountered any problems that you've been experiencing. I'm not sure what else I can check for you? Maybe there are certain actions or key commands that I can try out and report back on? Did you try re-installing LB2? Let me know what else to try.

#1728736 - 03/10/06 09:22 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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I've reinstalled it about a dozen times over the past 6 months. I might try that 9 step program to recovery you're touting...as long as praying to a higher power isn't involved. Well, maybe I would do that at this point.


The term "necroposting" was invented by a person with no social memory beyond a year. People with a similar hangup are those o.k. with the internet being transient vapor.

http://www.openfuelstandard.org/2011/12/methanol-wins-open-wager.html

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#1728737 - 03/10/06 10:09 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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It's still doing it. First thing I noticed going into the sim was that a single mouse click was turning into like 5 clicks. Clicking on the pilot area would take me in and out of it like a half dozen times in a row. Clicking on campaign takes me strait on through to the map screen. Some clicks only count as one, others get counted over and over again. That's the first symptom of this issue cropping up.

This can't be some motherboard defect, because I've seen other people fire half their compliment of hellfires in one keypress before in multiplayer.

Thanks for trying for me.


The term "necroposting" was invented by a person with no social memory beyond a year. People with a similar hangup are those o.k. with the internet being transient vapor.

http://www.openfuelstandard.org/2011/12/methanol-wins-open-wager.html

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#1728738 - 03/10/06 02:35 PM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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I, too, have always had the multi-keypress issue ... on TWO dissimilarly configured PCs running original LB2. Dissimilar meaning different MBs, HDs, RAM type, keyboard, mouse, and video card. But, same OS (XP Pro), same controller (Saitek x36usb). Controller drivers are different, though.

Too many variables ....

Solution? Build and run on old PII machines with Windoze ME and dual V2 cards.

#1728739 - 03/11/06 01:19 AM Re: Anthology Version of LB2  
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For the X52, I did notice the throttle has something to do with it. I get repeat keypresses in the multiplayer IP screen with certain throttle positions, while with others it goes away. Someone I flew with last weekend mentioned this as a possible cause but didn't know why LB2 had this problem with throttle axis'. But even more of a problem is the stuck keys, and it's always shift, control, or alt. It even seems to matter whether it's the standard left one or the right key designation.


The term "necroposting" was invented by a person with no social memory beyond a year. People with a similar hangup are those o.k. with the internet being transient vapor.

http://www.openfuelstandard.org/2011/12/methanol-wins-open-wager.html

Saitek X65 and X52, Glide, Winx3D, and GlovePIE Profiles http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=reticuli&CatID=miscmisc

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