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#1727463 - 10/23/05 10:16 PM Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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I would like to try hosting - have a D-Link DI-624 router. Will putting the host PC in the DMZ get it done? Or could someone help me test?

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#1727464 - 10/23/05 11:33 PM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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i will help you test, sure
but not until evening of 10/27/05 - have to load voice comms (state your preference), icq, ----
but i have been practicing flying.

my email:

d331jf1 at cox dot net

regards

#1727465 - 10/23/05 11:33 PM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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oh yeah, forgot, i am on high speed cable

#1727466 - 10/24/05 01:02 AM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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There seem to be SOME routers that will work. I think the D-Link may be one of them.

Linksys, Microsoft and Belkin (pretty much the same firmware as Linksys) seem to work. I think the D-LInk does as well. It may also depend on the firmware revision level.

People have have had varying results with port fwding vs. DMZ. DMZ seems to be the most 'reliable' option, though it exposes you. Hosts running in router DMZ's have also had to take down other firewalls (e.g. ZoneAlaram) even if LB2 has been given permission to pass through the firewall.

Good luck! Let us know the results!

Recluse

P.S. Send me a PM and I might be able to help test depending on the timeframe. I run behind a Netgear router, but that hasn't caused any problems as CLIENT.


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#1727467 - 10/27/05 02:41 AM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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I am afraid I will be busy the next couple of nights - maybe sometime on the weekend? Also, I am about to give up in frustration on playing lB2 on my modern PC (P4-2.40 1gb RAM 9800 Pro). I have no problems with graphics (zeckensack 0.80) but no matter what slowdown util I use I get stuck keys and missed keys. Nothing more discouraging than seeing on lonely T-72 and launching your entire load of hellfires with one key press.

Back to the old P3-500 Voodoo 3 for now.

#1727468 - 10/27/05 08:57 AM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Swagger200:
Nothing more discouraging than seeing on lonely T-72 and launching your entire load of hellfires with one key press.
Your keyboard is'nt USB by any chance?
Have you tried the dgVoodoo wrapper?
That wrapper can synch the refresh to i.e. 60Hz and effectively slows down the game to that fps so no need to slow down the cpu. Might solve your multiple key-press issue.
dgVoodoo 1.40+

#1727469 - 10/28/05 04:16 AM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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Thanks Shadow I will try that

#1727470 - 10/29/05 12:06 AM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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oh sure Swag, when I told you that it wasnt a good idea. ;\)

When hosting with the DLink router, I have to kill my firewall. Make sure that youre behind a hardware firewall or at least some software firewall that is compatible with LB2 (Zonealarm doesnt always work with LB2).

When I dropped my ZA and put my self in the DMZ on the DLINK, I left my system open to the raw WWW-inet. As a result, i ended up with what I think is a virus that wipes out your network and hardware icons as a means to mask itself. It took spyware cleaning and WinXP repair/reinstall to cure it. Restore didnt work as a fix. It even hopped to a second PC when I brought down its ZA on the same LAN.

So let that be a warning to you all.
Keep at least one level of protection when trying to host LB2 or anything else.


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#1727471 - 10/29/05 03:33 PM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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Agreed - I would HIGHLY recommend leaving the Windows or Zone Alarm firewall up. These are software firewalls which will block incoming ports from the internet, except the specific ones you allow. The first time your run LB2 under a software firewall, you will get a prompt asking you whether to permit LB2 to talk to the internet. Agree to this, and LB2 will be added to a list of 'exceptions' but other traffic will be blocked. I sometimes look at hardware firewall logs and there is unrelenting probing going on (probably by zombie computers - robots already captured by bad guys). The wolves are at the door and they will screw up your PC with no remorse if you let them.

#1727472 - 10/29/05 03:56 PM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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Yeah, but LB2 is an odd duck. Probably related to the same issue that messes up router hosting, ZA sometimes blocks LB2 connections (after FLY, but not during intial sync and mission planning) despite being told to let it through.

USUALLY I haven't had ZA issues as the client, but last week things were strange and I never did find out whether it was my client ZA screwing things up or not.

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#1727473 - 10/29/05 05:36 PM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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To DMZ host, turn OFF the Client for Microsoft Networking and File and Printer Sharing. Also make sure you're OS is fully patched.

In my experience, this is perfectly safe, however if you do so for short durations only while playing.

#1727474 - 10/30/05 01:28 AM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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One of the early episodes of Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte's 'Security NOW!' podcast talked about NAT as a security measure.

Some pretty good schemes for using mulitple routers to secure a portion of the network while allowing some machines 'free' access:

http://www.grc.com/nat/nat.htm

Probably not much will be new for the network geeks here, but it is a good reference.

This and other Security Now podcasts at:

http://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm

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#1727475 - 10/30/05 03:17 AM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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Well I am really ready to scream. I have switched to dgVoodoo 1.31, copied all of av8r's settings, disabled hyperthreading, forced monitor refresh to 60hz, Turbo'd to 35%, and every $#@^% combination of the above and I keep getting screwed-up multiple keypresses. AARRGH!!

#1727476 - 10/30/05 03:18 AM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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For crying out loud, this sim is almost 20 years old. If we all sign a petition, can we not make an emotional plea to someone for the SOURCE CODE!!!!!

#1727477 - 10/30/05 02:37 PM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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The Janes F/A-18 community has trying to do that for F/A-18 for years. First the answer was silence. Then the answer was NO, and the latest answer is "We don't know where the code is anymore". LB2 is even older, and I think the Austin group who did LB2 disbanded even before the Baltimore group that did F/A-18.

But..who knows.. maybe a formal request could work..

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#1727478 - 10/30/05 07:54 PM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Swagger200:
Well I am really ready to scream. I have switched to dgVoodoo 1.31, copied all of av8r's settings, disabled hyperthreading, forced monitor refresh to 60hz, Turbo'd to 35%, and every $#@^% combination of the above and I keep getting screwed-up multiple keypresses. AARRGH!!
Have you tried lowering your OS Keyboard repeat rate? Start -> Control Panel -> Keyboard.

#1727479 - 10/30/05 08:22 PM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Recluse:
The Janes F/A-18 community has trying to do that for F/A-18 for years. First the answer was silence. Then the answer was NO, and the latest answer is "We don't know where the code is anymore". LB2 is even older, and I think the Austin group who did LB2 disbanded even before the Baltimore group that did F/A-18.

But..who knows.. maybe a formal request could work..

Recluse
I asked if they'd even consider selling it again as a value title. No go.

#1727480 - 10/30/05 09:01 PM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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Have you tried lowering your OS Keyboard repeat rate? Start -> Control Panel -> Keyboard.


Yes did that too. Sigh.

#1727481 - 11/03/05 05:53 AM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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Repeating keystrokes may be:

- mother board issue
- typomatic rate
- CPU or MB speed (too fast, try turbo and slow down)
- something else


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#1727482 - 11/11/05 09:34 PM Re: Router Hosting Issues Resolved?  
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swagger,
please see the Planning the next flight thread..

thanks

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