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#1533137 - 11/28/04 11:37 AM Re: Some updates...  
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I can help with beta testing! \:D


In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
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#1533138 - 11/28/04 01:03 PM Re: Some updates...  
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I'm slightly behind schedule regarding Sea Harrier cockpit, because I'm delighted with the VTOL physics and wheel-to-carrier-deck physics and I can't stop flying it pretending I'm retorning from CAP over the warzone \:D

Btw, what a 'speedboat' is that carrier, Steve ;\) lol. I was amazed of the physics when I let my plane slid through the open elevator shaft on the deck. heheh. Can't wait to see the damage effects implemented back in the SeaHarrier too.

Some progress in the SeaHarrier FRS.1 cockpit, quite complicated as I have just one photo of the FRS.1 cockpit (from Bill Gunston's book on the Harriers) and I'm using references for sidepanels and other details not in the photo, from other Harriers (like the excellent Gr.3 cockpit walkaround found in the Harrier Special Interest Group.



Still a lot to do, but when it's fully ready (and hopefully with working HUD) I plan to update our news page in our website with a very complete movie - maybe including deck ramp STOVL take-off too! ;\)


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#1533139 - 11/28/04 09:35 PM Re: Some updates...  
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That looks phantastic! Keep up the good work!


In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
#1533140 - 11/30/04 02:11 AM Re: Some updates...  
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Dante,

How are you going to model the "Blue Vixen" radar? Do you have anyone with RAF experience to help with the displays and such?

Miao, Cat


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#1533141 - 11/30/04 04:20 AM Re: Some updates...  
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More words of apreciation and encourgment, this is the sim I'm most looking forward to.

#1533142 - 11/30/04 04:41 AM Re: Some updates...  
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VTOL looks well done, even in this early stage. Bravo.


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#1533143 - 11/30/04 03:34 PM Re: Some updates...  
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How are you going to model the "Blue Vixen" radar? Do you have anyone with RAF experience to help with the displays and such?
Cat: Steve tried to contact the Fleet Air Arm museum curator for the SeaHarrier FRS.1 flight/avionics manual but he said these aren't available to the public yet; an alternative plan is to contact BAE Systems directly, as they developed the Blue Fox / Blue Vixen radars. There's also a company who provides support and training tools for the Indian Navy SeaHarriers. Also, Blue Fox is strongly based on Lynx HAS.Mk2 helicopter's Seaspray radar, so as a worst case scenario, lets try to develop an aproximated simulation using Lynx radar data.


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#1533144 - 11/30/04 06:59 PM Re: Some updates...  
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Hmmmm anyone know Sharkey wards email ?

#1533145 - 12/06/04 01:01 PM Re: Some updates...  
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Progressing, but still a lot to do, specially regarding textures:


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#1533146 - 12/06/04 06:02 PM Re: Some updates...  

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Awesome. I can't wait!

#1533147 - 12/06/04 09:16 PM Re: Some updates...  
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Whaddya mean a lot to do? It looks rather complete to me!!! \:\)


In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
#1533148 - 12/06/04 11:57 PM Re: Some updates...  
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Ahooooaaaaaa \:D

#1533149 - 12/07/04 02:02 PM Re: Some updates...  

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Do you guys know that a new Freedom of Information act has just gone into effect in the UK this month? If you make a written request to the UK Ministry of Defence for information on the Mk.1 Sea Harrier, they might just give you some of what you want.

#1533150 - 12/07/04 03:15 PM Re: Some updates...  
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JayP: well, that's good news indeed. But, the Sea Harrier FRS.1 details are slowly beggining to emerge for us: some days ago, Steve contacted a person who is in charge of preverving Hawker Hunter material and legacy, this person has the original manuals of the Hawker Hunter T8M , which, as you can see in the linked picture, was used to train Sea Harrier FRS.1 pilots to use the Blue Fox radar - this Hunter was actually equipped with the Blue Fox, notice the odd nose cone with pitot tube over it - exactly the same nose and radar as the Sea Harrier FRS.1 ! \:\)

Also, I've ordered a Harrier Gr.1 / AV-8A flight manual, it's a first generation Harrier (Harrier Gr.1, USMC AV-8A, and the RAF Harrier Gr.3 used in the Falklands all have the same flight performance, actually I will only be missing the Ferranti Laser Ranger & Marked Target Seeker (LRMTS) and RWR data/specs, which are the main diferences between Harrier Gr.1/AV-8A and Harrier Gr.3 - the USMC AV-8A has a few different electric itens fitted in by the americans, but nothing that would impact flight performance).

To sum up, it's been very hard to built/collect all the needed references, but sooner or later we'll have the 1st generation Harriers done. \:\)


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#1533151 - 12/07/04 06:16 PM Re: Some updates...  
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Have I told you I'm gonna love this sim? \:D

How's the other stuff going, like terrain modelling, campaign/missions etc.?


In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
#1533152 - 12/07/04 06:37 PM Re: Some updates...  
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Quote:
Originally posted by semmern:
Whaddya mean a lot to do? It looks rather complete to me!!! \:\)
Guess that I couldn't agree more

#1533153 - 12/07/04 08:22 PM Re: Some updates...  
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Is the cockpit model (ignoring textures) complete?

#1533154 - 12/07/04 11:04 PM Re: Some updates...  
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semmern: campaign is main priority for Steve while a second goal is to have a fully working Sea Harrier cockpit - this involves a lot of programming, not only my work in the Sea Harrier cockpit model/textures. Terrain was assigned to Romano, he actually completed an accurate model of the islands (programming, based on SRTM data) but unfortunately it's been complicated to integrate this parallel effort into the main flight sim code done by Steve - if we succeed, fine, we're going to have a great and accurate terrain mesh of the battlefield, but at the moment Steve's own terrain effort, although lacking a proper LOD method, is looking good enough and is serving us well at this stage of development.

Lemon: geometry-wise, the cockpit mainly is missing the rear view mirror in the canopy frame, we should think about an efficient method to implement it. Also a few moving parts should be included later, like the usefull Harrier's little "weathervane" outside just in front of the windshield that serves as a yaw sensor for hovering flight.


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#1533155 - 12/08/04 01:12 PM Re: Some updates...  
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Dante: Is great to see this kind of flightsims, I hope that you release soon!!!


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#1533156 - 12/08/04 11:43 PM Re: Some updates...  
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It's looking good, Dante. No one's ever done a Harrier to this standard. I think your efforts will be well received.

Miao, Cat


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