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#1391863 - 07/24/04 07:22 PM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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A friend of mine just recently bought a new puter just for KOE ... at my prompting \:\( .....tho I had told him it didnt look good...he figured as most did..that they were just not responding to input they cant use.... $1,800 he spent.... Sorry
John...try IL2...you'll love it!!!! \:\)


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#1391864 - 07/24/04 11:38 PM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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ummmmm .... ouch

#1391865 - 07/25/04 12:37 AM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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Ya know Oleg Maddox at one time showed a interest in a WWI sim based on the IL-2 engine. With the making of the Pacific sim by (partially) a 3rd party, maybe you could approach Oleg with what you have.

Just spit balling.

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PVT.Roger could be onto something here. Oleg has been involved in 'oversighting' several flight sim additions under the UBI/Maddox games banner. There certainly wouldn't be anything to lose from making an approach. And if accepted it would certainly provide an excellent high profile for the sim.

Would also be worthwhile approaching Microsoft, and do it under the CFS banner.

These are the only two developers who can successfully get flight sims out into the marketplace these days. Mad not to make a business proposition to either, or both, of them.

But please don't let all that work just die. Or lie in limbo.


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#1391866 - 07/25/04 12:50 AM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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I was only thinking about the Microsoft aspect of it last night. Particularly now that it seems there will be no in-house developed CFS4 in the immediate future. It also makes sense because MS have already covered both the PTO and ETO WWII Theatres in their 3 combat sims. It seems quite tantalising given that the investment required by Microsoft would be a pittance in comparison to the returns. If anything, CFS3 proves that MS really needs a lot of help in producing a competant flight sim, as they lost the plot after CFS2.

#1391867 - 07/25/04 07:35 AM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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As soon as I find words to express how sad this makes me feel, I'll post back.

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#1391868 - 07/25/04 07:53 AM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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Thanks for stepping up and at least telling us what is going on.
I'd rather have the truth than false hopes...

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#1391869 - 07/26/04 02:52 AM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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Nooooo! \:\(

#1391870 - 07/26/04 11:35 AM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  

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Many selfish replies here :rolleyes:

Eddie, I am real sorry to hear your news, for me/us and last (but surely not least!) YOU guys who apparently and passionately came a long way with KOE.

I hope you will find a good job soon and ofcours hope to see KOE be finished and published in the forseeable future one way or another.

Meanwhile, I am having a blast with RB3 FCJ etc.

Keep the faith, Ed. S!

#1391871 - 07/26/04 05:37 PM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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Eddie,

I have contacted Oleg and inquired as to any help he might be to you. He sent me a link for you to submit information if you would be interested in investment. You can email me at jhl@comcast.net for info.

#1391872 - 07/26/04 07:33 PM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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\:\( Very sad news indeed. Good luck to all those who were employed by Aspect. It's rotten when this happens whatever line of work you are in.

We can only hope that there is a chance that all your efforts will not be wasted.

#1391873 - 07/26/04 10:27 PM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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I don't get it;everything that has been put in is lost,all the effort and money,if they had hung in there,it would have payed itself back easily.......?
I,m just wondering;was it far from finished or close to releasing?
If the latter is the fact,finding fund would not be so hard would it?
Damn if i was D.Trump i put up the $ myself!

#1391874 - 07/27/04 06:34 AM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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Sorry to hear all your hard work is out the door Eddie, but thanks for letting us know. The screenshots I had seen were pretty nice, so congrats on your work.

I do hope something can come of this project and maybe Oleg is an option to pursue...

smith

#1391875 - 07/27/04 07:34 AM Re: Knights over Europe: The truth of what is happening.  
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Well this does suck.

The sad part about the whole thing is I really think there is a market for a decent WW1 simulation. The last good one is almost seven years old now.

I really wish there was something I could do to help. A co-op of gamers owning the game probably isn't a bad idea, I know I would contribute 100-150 bucks for it. I guess if we could get another 1000 to do the same then maybe we could help get the game to completion. Still that would only get us part way.

The secondary problem of course is getting it published. Matrix games probably could do it, they actually might show an interest but they are a small group and their shelf space is pretty small.

Eddie W is right though. Whether true or not simulations are considered not to be money makers. The sales are generally on the small side, the genre is demanding and exacting (not just from the gamers, coding realism is a lot harder than just making stuff up), and the games don't translate to Xbox or PS2 well.

Damn, I really wanted to see this one go forward too.


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