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#1391711 - 07/07/04 09:07 PM *whistles in the empty room*  

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Less than six months from the supposed release date, and we have dead silence here on this board (four five days now) and from the developer.

Hello, Aspect? This is Droops. You don't know me, but I have some advice for you. If you're serious about releasing this game, you need to get off of your butts and get some publicity going.

How about it? An article, some screenshots, some sort of media campaign. Anything! Please?

Hello, is this thing on?

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#1391712 - 07/07/04 09:49 PM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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Not looking good is it \:\(


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Maybe we outta get something else going and stop waiting for KOE.... I think it's vaporware..
I hope I'm wrong...Aspect..please give us a sign


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The site is still up though.


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Quote:
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Maybe we outta get something else going
Maybe some dumpster diving behind the Sierra offices? ;\)

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LOL ..not what I had I mind........not that I acually had something in mind ;\)


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LOL ..not what I had I mind........not that I acually had something in mind ;\)
Well, theres a new book that should make using the Torque engine alot easier. http://www.garagegames.com/index.php?sec=mg&mod=resource&page=view&qid=5638

Not that I could actually do anything with the engine or the book. \:D Flybert has had a Torque indie license for a few years now I think.

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If you want something to keep you occupied pick up an Xbox and a copy of Ninja Gaiden. Holy cow, what a ball buster of a game! I kid you not, this game is an all consuming fire if you make the commitment and take up the challenge.

As far as KOE, I dunno. I check back on the boards about once a week to see if Aspect has thrown us a bone. Every week nothing, nothing. What are we suppose to think. Last I heard the publisher was going to put up a proper product page. I got that straight from JP via email. That was months ago and nothing ever appeared. No explaination from Aspect. I don't know what to think about this sim. I am clueless.

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Keep an eye out at Sourceforge for any dropping of massive amounts of code for Knights Over Europe \:\( \:\( \:\(

Of course I'm joking, but I, too am beginning to wonder. I'd like to make the analogy to the release of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper, with the reporters saying "The Beatles have dried up! They can't think what they're doing in the studio, etc.". But you can only make that kind of analogy after the fact!

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I'll believe it when I see it.IMHO opinion, it's not going to happen.


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Oh ye of little faith, seek no golden calf but remain true in ye faith and ye shall be delivered.

In Christmas 2005...


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#1391722 - 07/08/04 05:39 PM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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How could it take untill 2005? I mean that last news was that the game was almost done, but now that they were being published by Aspect they had a little more time (Q4) to smooth it out. I mean, by the screenshots you can see the game is near some level of completion, at least a late Beta stage. I cannot figure out why they would just dump a game that was so close to finished.


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I wonder how many people would know where that screenshot is from? \:\)

I do! *raises hand* I still even have that demo on my harddrive!

Droops

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Oh no \:\( . Is that the abandoned Sierra project? Forgot what it was called - Desert Fighters or something? I played the demo of it but my machine at the time couldn't handle it. Looked neat though \:\(

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Desert fighters was quite far advanced when it was abandoned \:\(


I will believe in KOE when I see the first review or the box in the shops, as much as I wish it to come out \:\(
Sorry to be so pessimistic, but the developers media approach is somewhat underwhelming, is it ?

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My entire online future is banking on the release of a WWI flight sim, hopefully this one. So I just wrote a letter to aspect simulations and hopefully will get a response. I'll keep you posted if I do.

S!


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#1391728 - 07/09/04 01:45 AM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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I emailed Aspect....no reply \:\(


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Daze how long ago? Companies are sometimes slow writing back, and I've waited 2 or 3 weeks for a reply from others. But if you wrote like 2 or 3 months ago and heard nothing I'd be really worried.


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I sent one in late March. Never heard back.


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I sent one in Feb. Never heard back. Kinda had a feeling this Aspect thing was a hoax. Hope not.

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Well, if are in the mood for some despair and panic mongering...

Anyone remember a few years back when a game designer with a big ego and bigger mouth got millions from investors with sweet promises of The Game to break the bank.

He and the gang lived in luxury and excess in their penthouse studio, spoiling themselves while delivering hints and "early" screenies of just how great 'The Game' would eventually be.

But all good thigs must come to an end.

Eventually, after millions of investor money had disappeared into thin air the 'guru' and his entourage seemingly came to realise that they very well might face fraud charges unless they actually did deliver a tangible game.

So they presented us (X), one the most famous turkeys in gaming history.

PS. Actual names withold for apparent reasons...

...or to be on the sure side I could add...

All charactes and events on this story are fictional and... \:D

Seriously, does anyone remember how this board came to be?

Because KOE board seems so pointless. What could we possibly do here when all we have is some screenshots that may or may not come from actual game-engine instead of Photoshop and vague, to say the least, info that there is this flight-sim that features some WWI planes and ground objects, a campaing of some kind and maybe multiplay of some sort, too?

It is obvious the Aspect is not the slightest bit interested in feedback - Oleg can be a stubborn mule at times, but if a Russian with a language barrier finds time to discuss his project with the admittedly harsh flight-sim audience, the deafening silence fron Aspect makes Microsoft look the paragon of consumer service.


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#1391733 - 07/09/04 11:18 AM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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Well the WWI mod for Targetware is coming along:

Richthofen\'s Skies

It's not going to be anything close to the scope of KOE's coverage, but..............

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Well, I'm still standing by...

Not like I can do much else... \:\(


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Quote:
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Well the WWI mod for Targetware is coming along:

Richthofen\'s Skies

It's not going to be anything close to the scope of KOE's coverage, but..............
True, but it will be pay to play. And with no single player campaign, which it seems that many people want....


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The three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm, and a good bowel movement.

(always lookin' for those cheap thrills, huh Ironhand)

\:D \:D \:D

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I've stayed away from pay to play thus far. I just can't believe in a concept where I have to buy a game, and then buy it again every month.

However, Targetware is initially free so its sort of different. Perhaps I'll give it a try online for a month, maybe. I just hate subscribing to things on a monthly basis, magazines, newspapers, CD clubs, online games, women. Guess I have a commitment problem lol :p


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Fly \:D \:D \:D

Black: It isn't ready for d/l yet.

I don't like PTP either. It does have its supporters, and they enjoy it. But it is not for me. I looked at WW2OL, but when I read of the massive patch needed just to get online, I said screw it. To say nothing of the fact it could take you an hour to get to the battle, only to die. Not something to waste my time and money on. Don't even see it in stores anymore.

Take the pessimistic view. KOE is not going to happen. Why take that view?

1: If I am right, I have that satisfaction.
2: If wrong, I will be pleasently surprised.

It is win/win!!!

Oh and Blacksheep 2, it isn't called a commitment problem, it is keeping your options open.


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Quote:
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Oh and Blacksheep 2, it isn't called a commitment problem, it is keeping your options open.
LOL, I like that better ;\)


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Ok I confess....the reason I first said that we should work on something else and forget about
KOE was just a bluff ploy in hopes they would read that and give a sign of life so we would stay on track with them :rolleyes: ..silly....I know but desperate times require desperate measures ;\)


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I still like that mass e mail tactic someone mentioned in another post. Hey it doesn't even have to happen in one day. Everyone here who has not written to Aspect, just send an e mail asking what the status of KOE is because you are eager to play it. It doesn't have to be any more elaborate then that, but you can add more as I did. Perhaps if they get 30 - 40 - 50 e mails they will give one of us a reply or make an announcement as to whether this sim is still in production or cancelled.


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Game: Knights Over Europe

Released: Scheduled for Summer 2004
Game Type: 3D Simulation

Developer: Aspect Simulations

Publisher: Unknown - To Be Announced

Homepages: http://www.aspectsimulations.com/ Prod_KOE.htm

FAQs: none known

Requires: Windows (with DirectX), Direct3D

Supports:

Multiplay: None (!!!)

Keywords: World War I, flight-sim

Description: Knights Over Europe brings the dawn of aerial combat up-to-date with leading edge graphics, high fidelity flight models and precision damage modeling. Dozens of highly detailed aircraft with historically accurate markings will set the stage for an experience that will attract both hard-core flightsim fans and novices alike.
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Producent: Aspect Simulations
kategoria: symulatory / lotnicze

data premiery: listopad 2004

tryb gry: single / multiplayer (phew...)
tryb multiplayer: LAN / Internet


NOVINKY 5.7. 2004 14:56:35 (note date)


Aspect Simulations: Knights Over Europe...

Jednou ze spolecností, která to s leteckou simulací myslí velmi vážne je Aspect Simulations z Denveru. Hlavní znaky vývojárské vetve této firmy smerují k realite a to jak v prístupu k simulaci matematicko-fyzikálních aspektu, tak také v prímé konfrontaci s vizuální stránkou veci. Faktem je, že originalita a naprosto dokonalé zkušenosti hlavních vývojáru, by mohly na pole letecké simulace vnést velmi inovativní a kvalitní produkty. Mezi hlavní vývojáre spolecnosti patrí rada programátoru, kterí meli co docinení s tituly: Falcon, Red Baron II, Aces of the Deep. Pro tento rok by mela spolecnost vydat titul Knights Over Europe zamerující se výhradne na vzdušný boj I. svetové války se zohlednením všech autentických a stežejních prvku. Samozrejme, že práve schopnost ovládnout nestabilní „hadráky“ v koordinovaném letu v prímém vzdušném souboji, se zdá být necím, co na trhu letecké simulace dnes nepochybne chybí. Práve simulace vzdušného boje z období, kdy reálná aviatika znamenala predevším schopnost pilotáže, by se mela stát hlavním a zároven nosným produktem spolecnosti Aspect Simulations v nejbližších mesících. Jisté je, že vzhledem k dosahovaným rychlostem tehdejších letounu, by se Knights Over Europe mohly stát též produktem s prevratným grafickým prostredím, nebot FPS by zustávalo vzhledem k nenárocné animaci stále vysoce nad prumerem a tak by bylo možné zamerit se na mnoho grafických detailu. Krome komercní desktopové simulace pro širokou verejnost spolecnost úzce spolupracuje též se složkami americké armády za úcelem prípravy nekolika projektu smerovaných prímo pro úcely interního výcviku prostrednictvím vizuální simulace. Podrobnosti o titulu Knights Over Europe bychom prinesli v aktuálním case, v dobe, kdy titul vstoupí na trh. Informace mužete prubežne též cerpat prímo na: http://www.aspectsimulations.com . (anyone here read czech lol)

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Knights Over Europe is currently scheduled for release in the second quarter of 2004. We'll bring you more information on the game as soon as it becomes available. (lol yeah...)

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Aspect Simulations announces the development of their World War I combat flight simulation,
KNIGHTS OVER EUROPE. Brought to you by a team whose collective experience includes Red Baron II, the Falcon 3 series, the Close Combat series and Fly II, KNIGHTS OVER EUROPE brings the dawn of aerial combat up-to-date with leading edge graphics, high fidelity flight models and precision damage modeling. Dozens of highly detailed aircraft with historically accurate markings will set the stage for an experience that will attract both hard-core flightsim fans and novices alike.

KNIGHTS OVER EUROPE is currently scheduled for release in the second quarter of 2004.

Expect more news and announcements about this exciting new product in the coming months.
(as if...)

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April, 2003 - Knights over Europe

Aspect Simulations recently announced their WWI based combat flight simulator Knights Over
Europe to the gaming press, including showing a demo version at E3 (Electronic Entertainment Expo). In order to meet the deadlines of having the demo ready by E3, Aspect Simulations realized the need to get quality terrain images into the game as quickly as possible.

Due to our experience in environmental and terrain visualization, we were asked to provide placeholder terrain textures that could be shown in the demo and screen shots until the actual terrain textures were in place within the game. The results went over quite well at the show and with the press, and we look forward to seeing the direction this promising title takes as development progresses.

but nothing at this year's E3... can't be good
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Game Title: Knights Over Europe
Publisher: Aspect Simulations
Release Date: 11-01-2004 (!!! call me a pessimist, but...)
Genre: Flight Sim
ESRB Rating: Not Rated

* * *

Alas, we can just spread our arms and live in hope...



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I don't think I could handle KOE never being released!!! \:\(

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Stop it guys, cause you're really gettin' me upset now!!! \:\(

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Well I cant imagine anyone who could make a beeter WW1 flight sim then Oleg Mattox (IL2 fame)
but he says he isnt into WW1..(sigh)...and Wings with Wires seems to have run outta gas or something... \:\( ..If the Fighter Squadron wizards
could fix the WW1 birds fm's then that could be the
next premier WW1 sim. And all the planes are already made!! plus ww1 tanks and stuff..its just the FM's and maybe some other little things but its basically done. of theirs stil Red Baron :rolleyes:


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OK I sent an Email to Aspect, everyone else should too.

If only I could program, nind you I can paint a bit so anyone wants to start our own WW1 flight sim co-developement count me in \:D


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Daze, as soon as VDU impliments rotary gyro torque in the next Patch, the FMs will be much improved. \:D Also, many many other new improvements and revisions for Plane Pack 4!!

Also lets not forget Richthofen's Skies... I know there's no real single player campaign or series of missions to speak of, but the detail and FM and DM modeling should be fantastic!

I have faith in the Wings with Wires and Aspect teams, you guys should show some support. I realize that Aspect is a hell of a lot farther along in completion than Wings with Wires, but I'm keeping the faith. \:\)


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Don't get me wrong Argon..it not as much lack of faith as it is lack of pateince lol PP4??????
for sdoe? sorry but I thought you gave up on it!!
SOO glad to hear your still doing your magic on sdoe...i'm an old timer at that game..gee VDU is workin on it still also!! ok I feel better now \:\)
if VDU can make the FM's as good or better than
red baron..we may not need koe at all :p


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Given up on PP4?!?!?! LOL ARE YOU CRAZY?!?!?! :p No no no mate, FAAAR from... PP4 is well underway. \:D Good to see you at OPS too!


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#1391749 - 07/10/04 11:25 PM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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Daze, the people I know over at SDOE will never give up on that game ever, whether its WWI or WWII. There are lulls, and breif plateu's but in order for work to ever stop on that sim I think either we'll all have get so old we can't see anymore, or the world wil have to end lol \:\)


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#1391750 - 07/10/04 11:30 PM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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Very glad to hear that \:\)


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#1391751 - 07/11/04 01:52 AM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Slice:
OK I sent an Email to Aspect, everyone else should too.

If only I could program, nind you I can paint a bit so anyone wants to start our own WW1 flight sim co-developement count me in \:D
And I forgot to mentions this but Good Job! We need everyone who wants this sim to send them an e mail. ANd if you sent one 2 or 3 months ago send another. We don't want one person to spam them, but we want as many different users to hit there mailbox in the next few weeks. That way they get the idea that we want news about this sim, good or bad.


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#1391752 - 07/11/04 04:04 AM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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I have to admit I'm starting to wonder what is happening with KoE as well. Up until recently, I wasn't terribly concerned that little or no info had been forthcoming.

But the E3 thing started raising question marks in my mind, and now we are only three months out from the beginning of Q4 2004. I cannot think of any other computer game within the last 5 years where - several months prior to release - did NOT have advertising material and screenshots plastered all over the net.

If I was a betting man I would defintely now wager that it's not going to happen. If it does, it will have defied the publicity and release pattern of just about every PC game developed since hardware accelerated graphics came into being.

I don't really have much money to throw around on software, but I'm starting to think I might end up buying the Oleg Maddox Pacific Theater instead. At least I am sure that will be out soon. I don't feel like hanging out for something which I now believe is extremely unlikely to happen.

We have to face the reality everyone. Any publisher even remotely capable of...ummm...publishing...would be flogging this game at full pace around the net by now. Perhaps for everyone's sanity it's best to simply close this forum rather than let people get uneceesaarily excited, only to be sorely let down when nothing materialises.

#1391753 - 07/11/04 09:52 AM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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Well in totally unrelated news - it looks like Capitol Records is finally releasing the American version of the Beatles albums on CD \:\) \:\) \:\)

List price is supposedly going to be $50.00, the average price of a new video game these days. Maybe I should just just set aside my KoE money for this set \:\( .

Anyhow, if we really are serious about creating out own sim, I think it would be great if we made it focus on aviation, but also start to develop controllable ground vehicles. It shouldn't be too big of a step to do that.

Then once we have that down, go right into first person shooter. That would attract many people to the game who otherwise wouldn't be interested in just a WWI aviation game.

Is it too CPU intensive? \:\( .

Pushing the limits even further - to reduce server load, either partition off the map into segments so that each player doesn't have to constantly update data for the entire map. In addition to that, or instead of, maybe use the Bit Torrent concept of distributed bandwidth for servers?

So many ideas, so little actual results! Not that I can do much of anything to help but complain \:\(

-FranksValli

#1391754 - 07/11/04 07:24 PM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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I , too, sent another email . I'll let anyone know if I get any sort of response.

-FranksValli

#1391755 - 07/14/04 09:54 AM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  

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there is no reason why aspect cant drop everyone a line to say stop worrying.
but they havent.

i cant understand their attitude.

the sim i was so looking forward to isnt going to happen imho.

there have been all sorts of reasons touted...for example "they dont want to show all of their cards" etc...

there are three options in my view

1. there never was a sim.
2. they have a problem.
3. its still coming.


if its still coming, why no updates?..thier attitude is downright rude.

if they have a problem..why not say?...they will have to face the music when the release date is pushed back again...so why not stand up and be counted?

i dont know why anyone would make an elaborate hoax such as this but with the lack of info you have to wonder...their website is awfully amateurish for a software developer...and most of the products on it are unfinished.

another team of dreamers?

who knows?.....as a result of their attitude im thinking of other things now.

#1391756 - 07/14/04 11:33 AM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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Quote:

1. there never was a sim.
2. they have a problem.
3. its still coming.
Almost the only thing I KNOW about KoE is that it was no hoax and 1 is not correct. However, there are 2 other possibilities:

- They HAD a problem and it is solved.
- They HAD a problem and KoE is dead by now.

#1391757 - 07/14/04 03:15 PM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  

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Anyone tried to call them yet?

Droops

#1391758 - 07/14/04 07:44 PM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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I'm thinking about sending mail via snail mail, but I have a feeling I'd get the same response (or lack thereof).

-FranksValli

#1391759 - 07/14/04 08:27 PM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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Better yet, anyone live in the Denver area? ;\)

#1391760 - 07/15/04 09:18 AM Re: *whistles in the empty room*  
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What has always surprised me is that SimHQ readily gave KOE a forum and have in the past refused to do so for Flying Corps Gold, which is an established WW1 sim?
In fact, I have mentioned before that the only thing FCG needs is modern terrain. If the source code is free now( Rowan sim ), is not some sim manufacturer capable of building a terrain for it?
Are there technical insurmountable problems to do that?
If not, Just Flight, et al ? Want to have a go?


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