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#1391617 - 06/04/04 10:37 AM Am I wrong to be worried?  

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For a game thats been in the pipeline for so long, and thats due to be released in 6 months we have had very little info.

The website has had an update only twice to my knowledge in what must be a timeframe measured in years not months.

I don`t want to or like to sound pessimistic but those are the facts.I`d like to think aspect are beavering away with the release set to come out on time.but the lack of additions to the site in all this time makes me wonder if there are problems.

im not so much worried about the actual content as much as whether or not the thing is actually coming...i find the lack of info very strange.

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#1391618 - 06/04/04 11:56 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  

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Remember, Far Cry struck like lightning too... well kinda anyway.

I for one am glad to see Aspect isn't hyping this project but assumingly extremely busy finishing and polishing this benchmark WW1 sim \:D

#1391619 - 06/04/04 06:18 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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I agree that more info an page updates would be nice, but that's all in the public relations department. We can tell from the screenshots alone they are better at software engineering than public relations, and I for one don't mind that! \:\)

Lack of updates is nothin! You havnn't been to wingswithwires.com then \:\) . Anyhow, I think that project is slowly coming along - they posted some renders of the planes on pseudo-backgrounds and that got me interested enought to keep checking back.

#1391620 - 06/04/04 10:02 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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I've learned patience too from hanging around WWW for three years now, and also how much effort it truly takes to make a flight sim with only a small team to do all the work!

In fact I'd hate to be working all the overtime the designers at Aspect are probably putting in day after day to bring us a product both they and we can respect!

We can only hope, and wait..........what else is there to do!!! ;\)

#1391621 - 06/05/04 08:20 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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KOE is vaporware like wings with wires...be sure

#1391622 - 06/06/04 04:24 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Nice to meet you Kreskin...

I can't understand why some people always feel the glass is half-empty.

Ah well...



Work in progress? ;\)

S!

#1391623 - 06/06/04 05:10 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Glorious screens Dantes. They look absolutely superb! \:\)


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#1391624 - 06/06/04 05:39 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Ahh leaked screens! The tension mounts!

edit: Hey, I just noticed those mounted knights in the clouds. That is a nice touch that epitomizes attention to detail. I'm impressed

#1391625 - 06/06/04 10:25 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Ack, trying to fool these here fellers with FS-WWI PlanePack IV screenshots again. ;\) \:D

#1391626 - 06/06/04 10:42 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Look - it's quite simple really. There is a forum here about a developing sim. Whoever is developing this has only to enter a post from time to time to say, words to the effect, -
"Things are progressing, and eta of release is on time or slightly behind etc - But we are still here and this sim will fly ".
Now in the complete absence of this, it is not "looking at a half empty glass", it is expressing a legitimate POV born of the lack of input from Aspect to show us they are still alive.
So, if they are "still alive "I would even suggest that Aspect could be accused of showing a little lack of respect for their potential customers.
How long does it take to submit a post here once a week?


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#1391627 - 06/06/04 02:36 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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I don't think Aspect wants to "get involved" in the high crimes and misdemeanors here (and I'm sure everyone wants to be their best buddy now too, but they've got a job to do). ;\)

HEY, LOOK AT THOSE GAME PICTURES!!!

Thanks Dantes for showing us this lineup!

KOE is starting to really look refined........how about that French award ceremony with Guynemer's SPAD 7 in the background...........wonderful!

Check out the Nieuport 28's and the look of the clouds and terrain...............I wonder if that's a game screenshot (looks different from the others we've seen)?

Finally that last screenshot from "inside the Chateau".........are we talking on the ground aircrew interactivity!!! \:\)

KOE IS STARTING TO LOOK REALLY COOL!

#1391628 - 06/06/04 02:50 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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I do have one issue here:

[img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0VQAAAH0ax...475325897305705[/img]

I KEEP PUSHING THE BUTTONS OVER AND OVER AND NOTHIN' HAPPENS!!!!

\:D \:D \:D

#1391629 - 06/06/04 06:48 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Oooo secret information...well not really. ;\)

I was digging around and found them at John MacKay's personal web site in his portfolio (Note: There is no timeframe on these pictures so they may not be examples of progress, just different):

http://home.att.net/%7Ejmackay99/

Check out his logbook site about his father. It's interesting to see the older terrain and plane models in action. I look forward to Mr. MacKay finishing his work when KOE is up and running.

The comment about the half-empty glass was just a polite way to respond to a rather aggressive and unsubstantiated stance by one of the other posters. Speculation is fine, but that last comment bothered me. The pics were just a fun way to respond. ;\)

If one looks back at the build up to IL2, one will notice the rate of information, interviews and screen shots released are roughly at the same pace as KOE. Aspect seems to be more forthcoming than Maddox was at the time.

Lack of respect to customers? That comes across pretty harsh. This, like Frugal's site, are unofficial forums. Once an official forum opens up, then I could see a lack of response being a problem.

So far, while interesting, released screen shots have seemed to lead to wild speculations and brutal arguments over something that is not even finished.

Write them an e-mail. They seem to respond sometimes.

Again from the Check-6 interview:

"AS: Our publisher has scheduled KOE for release in the latter part of 2004; we initially projected that the project would be complete in late Q2 2004. The extra time will give us the opportunity to make sure that KOE is as stable and bug free as possible."

I have my own thoughts on why things are so quiet but I'm not going to go there.

Encouragement never hurts. The developers probably appreciate it if they still bother coming here.

S!

#1391630 - 06/06/04 07:22 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  

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oooooooooo...now thats encouraging.

it wouldnt hurt to feed us a few of these from time to time to keep our spirits up.

#1391631 - 06/06/04 09:26 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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WOW! Thanks for digging that stuff up!

This answers many questions on its own - obviously we're going to have a campaign mode. I can see the strong influence of Red Baron on the intro screen, which is a good thing \:\) . This looks very good on its own.

For those concerned with pilot detail, I think this looks pretty darn good (as far as I can see at this distance):



#1391632 - 06/06/04 09:44 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Hey look what I found!!! \:D \:D \:D

LOL.........here's a few more "KOE" pictures that Dantes linked us to at John McKay's website:

[img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TADfAqwXG...475360601823368[/img]

Early Fokker-built D.VIIs above (twin-exhaust pipes exhiting the right-side cowl....Berthold's AC flying high). \:\)

Here's a Nieuport 17/23 flying above an aerodrome (notice wing-mounted Lewis gun and sighting scope):

[img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TAAkA2YWb...475360690660790[/img]

Nice stuff.........thanks again Dantes for pointing us to them!

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Hey Dave, I'd recognize Rickenbacker anywhere (in N6159)!

Hmmmmmm.......I'd swear Eddie's winking. ;\)

#1391634 - 06/07/04 01:29 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Hehe \:\) . He does look like he has a smirk and a wink.

Shoot - my last comment was made about pilot detail, but I'm afraid this is the wrong picture to use to demonstrate that.

I was going through the collection of KOE screenshots and realized the one below is a better example, and plus it's probably farther along in development than the above shots. I cropped it and compared it with the Red Baron pilot just for laughs \:D \:D \:D



The jaggies on the Red Baron 3d pilot aren't as sharp as they could be because I was too lazy to re-install some screen capture software, so I just took a picture with a digital camera (the "old fasioned" way).

And in the process I learned that I could run RB3D at a decent framerate (using a Glide wrapper) since I finally upgraded to Windows 2000! Sound works and everything! I think I'll be playing that tonight.. hopefully there are still people playing in the servers \:\( .

#1391635 - 06/07/04 08:26 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  

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My thoughts: Finally a new flightsim that has a good looking interface!

#1391636 - 06/07/04 03:31 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Here's an enlargement of a portion of that Nieuport 17/23 screenshot above, taken from the left corner of the view:

[img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0VAAkAxka!...475467097982422[/img]

Pretty nice looking, and lots of terrain objects too!

Hmmmmmmmmm.............by the look of those black smudges on the field I'd bet this is a training drome! \:D \:D \:D

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