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#1391657 - 06/12/04 01:12 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Well, i have something better than a C64 hehe. I can play FB smoothly at exellent settings, so i hope i can fly KOE without much hickups as well. There don't seem to be any water shader effects or large mountains, which eat up the fps rate. It looks more or less like an fps friendly terrain, but these planes look like fps killers ;\) .


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#1391658 - 06/12/04 03:44 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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IIRC, Aspect did say that the requirements will not be steep. I would guess that if you can run FB smoothly, you will have no problems with KOE.

Hopefully it will be scaleable.


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#1391659 - 06/12/04 08:12 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Well my old Geforce 3 Ti200 is pretty much running up against the stops with the latest software. It also has problems with the latest Detonator drivers, so I am running a relatively old set. I'm just waiting for the next generation of mobos with PCIExpress architecture and the crop of new graphics cards for them. They just better get here soon... \:\)


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#1391660 - 06/12/04 10:30 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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You may be able to get a GF 4 cheap these days.
I 'll wait awhile after PCIexpress comes out before I switch \:D


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#1391661 - 06/13/04 12:02 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Well my old Geforce 3 Ti200 is pretty much running up against the stops with the latest software. It also has problems with the latest Detonator drivers, so I am running a relatively old set. I'm just waiting for the next generation of mobos with PCIExpress architecture and the crop of new graphics cards for them. They just better get here soon... \:\)
If your power supply will take it then 9800pro's are quite cheap now, as they were top of the line at one time the 9800 will always be a very powerfull card. It'll just lack the bleeding edge bells and whistles. The difference from your GF3 will be amazing.

PCI express cards will be very expensive when they come out


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#1391662 - 06/13/04 12:10 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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I presume everyones seen the KOE screens from Gamers Hell.

The terrain looks better in the later set.

http://www.gamershell.com/hellzone_Flight_Sim_Knights_Over_Europe.shtml



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#1391663 - 06/13/04 04:00 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Has anyone considered that maybe Aspect is not going to put ALL it's cards on the table before imminent release? Unlike past games that don't have close rivals lurking, Aspect is not posting all it's fluff and glory to tip off the competition.

With the posted images of the GUI, I can only hope and assume this is a seperate image that we can edit to suit our tastes like EAW and SFP1.

#1391664 - 06/13/04 04:14 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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[QB] I presume everyones seen the KOE screens from Gamers Hell.

The terrain looks better in the later set.

"Screenshots Added 14/06/2003:"

Exactly a year(!) ago Aspect *already* had a good looking (IMO) version. Can't wait what the actual release will be like !!!

Still, for me the campaing engine will make or break the sim.


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#1391665 - 06/14/04 08:22 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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For the set of photos posted above, I don't think these are all screenshots.

You can see a great deal of difference between some of the ground detail in some shots and that in others. Also some of the clouds look very different.

The shot of the French Airfield scene, with photographer etc. is clearly not a screenshot.

There are legitimate questions to be asked about KOE. If it is due in Q4 2004, then why was it not at E3? Any game in close to final development would make an appearance there.

Also, Aspect Sim does not seem to have a major publisher onboard.

I would be happy to hear otherwise, but at this point things do not look that rosy.

#1391666 - 06/14/04 10:57 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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So what can we do to eliminate these concerns?

Shall we start another poll here titled: Who wants Aspect to give us more KOE feedback?

Will this do us any good?

Geez, will pondering the possibilites yea or nay make any difference in the scope of things?

Anybody got some lottery money they want to use to grease Aspect up with?

Money talks.....................and you know the rest of the saying........... \:D

#1391667 - 06/16/04 12:42 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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I'm inclined to give them the benefit of doubt. Though I've not heard or read of information of substance, the contact I've had through email with them has been cordial and gives assurance that they continue to work on the project. Also, I have an aquaintance working on the project but he is very tight lipped about anything he is doing for them which is what I beleive is required by thier employees. He will not even elude to what's going on other than he is working on the project. I can only assume that if it were vaporware he would not be working for them which is good enough for me.

Maybe, it won't be ready in 4Q.
Then maybe they are just going about their business and won't get dragged into the morass of whining, requests and speculation that are the norm for flight sims. This being the most likely scenario in my opinion. I would venture to guess that it may already be in beta test yet even the testers are bound by silence even to thier participation let alone opinions of the game.

What would be the point, or gain, of continuing the elusion of a sim if it were just a hoax?

#1391668 - 06/16/04 02:30 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Has anyone considered that maybe Aspect is not going to put ALL it's cards on the table before imminent release? Unlike past games that don't have close rivals lurking, Aspect is not posting all it's fluff and glory to tip off the competition.
Sounds good ;\) hopefully the terrain is something they have up there sleeve ..the blurry type EAW (modded) looking terrain in the first shot is very dated looking for something still to be released. The rest of it looks great tho and i cant wait to get into a WW1 sim


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#1391669 - 06/16/04 10:35 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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>>Anybody got some lottery money they want to use to grease Aspect up with?>>

If I did, I'd dump it into Red Baron.

I agree with the posts here that we should relax and see what Aspect comes out with. Q4 would be great and they'd reap the holiday sales but an enduring sim is what I'm hoping for and I don't care WHEN. It's commendable if they don't release until ready, despite the pressure to profit ASAP.

We've got Red Baron looking good enough to hold us indefinitely or until Aspect trumps it. Hopefully they will. That near collision screenshot sure is great. I hope he already fired.
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#1391670 - 06/16/04 10:44 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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We've got Red Baron looking good enough to hold us indefinitely or until Aspect trumps it.
Are you kidding? RB3d is so dated looking by todays standards and what could be accomplished it's almost laughable to hear such a statement heard. Glide is dead, as are 256x256 sized textures and software rendered scenes. Embrace the new! \:D


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#1391671 - 06/16/04 11:33 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Ok, back to your corners you guys, and be ready for the next round when that bell rings again!!!

That is unless your ready to throw in the towel now? \:D \:D \:D

#1391672 - 06/17/04 09:03 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Look, everyone can understand why Aspect do not want to get into posting here in terms of saying what they are putting in, or inviting a wish list etc.
But- They could post here saying that they are still "alive and kicking" and making progress:however they will not discuss details.

The absence of anything at all rightly leads to speculation as to whether there will be a sim at all.
At the moment , I certainly am not holding my breath.


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#1391673 - 06/17/04 10:29 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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I'm happy to say I finally got to the point in my life where I realize there is such a thing as "good enough". Sure, there's always new exciting stuff but when one has something that works well enough and is affordable to boot, one can relax and quit chasing the future. Enjoy it when it arrives, but don't lose sleep over it.

Take it from a former type A personality who has never been happier. My Win 98SE T-bird 750 V3 512 K system is doing just fine with the ole Baron, thanks. Doesn't cost me a sou. I just wish I had time to play it more.

PS: That screenshot really is GREAT. I sincerely hope KoE is all that and more. If it is I'll probably upgrade my box with some of the $ I'm saving while we wait to see.

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#1391674 - 06/17/04 11:35 PM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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Are you kidding? RB3d is so dated looking by todays standards and what could be accomplished it's almost laughable to hear such a statement heard. Glide is dead, as are 256x256 sized textures and software rendered scenes. Embrace the new! \:D [/QB]
You left out the laughable FM/DM.


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#1391675 - 06/18/04 03:49 AM Re: Am I wrong to be worried?  
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I saw that GUI screenshot a while back and I had a minor heart attack when I didn't see a multiplay button! But from the interviews, they say multiplay and LAN capability will be included so I'll trust that over the GUI screen.

I'll still be worried untill an announcement is made that the final game will indeed have it. I'm banking a lot on the fact that it will ship with multiplay and so are many others!


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