Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#1390905 - 03/30/04 01:13 PM And the winner is........!!  

**DONOTDELETE**
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered


Let's review:

FlyX, ArgonV & Binky insist on a "snapshot in time", as opposed to a whole war, like RB.

....Check

They insist on a limited number of aircraft.

....Check.

They insist on a limited map.

......Judging by the screenshots available, check.

Now all they have to do is point to THEIR software & say "See? our software has more than KOE does!"

......YOU WERE TRICKED. YOU WERE DECIEVED. YOU SIDED WITH PEOPLE WHO DELIBERATELY RUINED OUR CHANCE FOR A SUCCESSOR TO RB.

Let's see......What's the word I'm looking for? oh yes, "TWIT" fits perfectly.




Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#1390906 - 03/30/04 02:42 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  

**DONOTDELETE**
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered


Quite a strong case you have, Von Helton

Given my by now infamous 'superior' topic/thread you know where I stand on this.

#1390907 - 03/30/04 03:13 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  

**DONOTDELETE**
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered


Quote:
Originally posted by Bobby:
Quite a strong case you have, Von Helton

Given my by now infamous 'superior' topic/thread you know where I stand on this.
I know......I am just so upset it defies words.

#1390908 - 03/30/04 08:16 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,945
ArgonV Online tunes
Hotshot
ArgonV  Online Tunes
Hotshot

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,945
College Station, Texas, USA
Man, do you ever stop?

KOE's developers knew LONG before this forum was put up what their product was going to include. Show me one screenshot that hinted that KOE was going to be released with early-war aircraft? :rolleyes: \:D


"Go Fly A Kite!"
-Jason R.
FS-WWI Project Leader
FS-WWI Plane Pack Site

Intel i9 10900k
Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Elite AC
64GB Corsair DDR4 2933 Vengeance RGB Pro
AMD XFX 7900 XTX Merc310 Black Edition
LG UltraGear 38GN95B-B 38" monitor
Corsair HX1200 PSU
1TB EVO 980 Pro M.2 PCIe x4 SSD
2TB EVO 980 Pro M.2 PCIe x4 SSD
Two 2TB EVO 860 SSDs
Sound Blaster ZxR
Win 10 x64 Pro
HOTAS Cougar #4069 w/Uber II Nxt mod #284 & UTM bushings
#1390909 - 03/30/04 11:24 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  

**DONOTDELETE**
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered


Quote:
Originally posted by ArgonV:
Man, do you ever stop?
No.

I will forever point out this debacle for all time, in the hope that people in the future won't be duped into accepting less by idiots like you when they could've had more.

#1390910 - 03/30/04 11:45 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  

**DONOTDELETE**
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered


hey stop talkin bollox von helton.
i wanted early planes.
i wanted the whole map.
im not affiliated to ANY software.

i just dont agree with your rotary plane theory.

so stop talkin crap and actually READ peoples posts.

#1390911 - 03/31/04 12:17 AM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 903
Trajan Offline
Member
Trajan  Offline
Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 903
Quote:
Originally posted by VonHelton:
Quote:
Originally posted by ArgonV:
Man, do you ever stop?
No.

I will forever point out this debacle for all time, in the hope that people in the future won't be duped into accepting less by idiots like you when they could've had more.
Typical infantile lament of the neuron challenged :rolleyes:


"We have come to bring you Liberty and Equality, but don't lose your head about it. The first one of you moves without my permission will be shot." Marshal of the Empire Francois Lefebyre
#1390912 - 03/31/04 12:40 AM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,945
ArgonV Online tunes
Hotshot
ArgonV  Online Tunes
Hotshot

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,945
College Station, Texas, USA
And yet, VonHelton continues! \:D


"Go Fly A Kite!"
-Jason R.
FS-WWI Project Leader
FS-WWI Plane Pack Site

Intel i9 10900k
Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Elite AC
64GB Corsair DDR4 2933 Vengeance RGB Pro
AMD XFX 7900 XTX Merc310 Black Edition
LG UltraGear 38GN95B-B 38" monitor
Corsair HX1200 PSU
1TB EVO 980 Pro M.2 PCIe x4 SSD
2TB EVO 980 Pro M.2 PCIe x4 SSD
Two 2TB EVO 860 SSDs
Sound Blaster ZxR
Win 10 x64 Pro
HOTAS Cougar #4069 w/Uber II Nxt mod #284 & UTM bushings
#1390913 - 03/31/04 12:53 AM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,945
ArgonV Online tunes
Hotshot
ArgonV  Online Tunes
Hotshot

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,945
College Station, Texas, USA
Everyone, please check out my other post. If VonHelton can do it and not get banned, so can I! \:D


"Go Fly A Kite!"
-Jason R.
FS-WWI Project Leader
FS-WWI Plane Pack Site

Intel i9 10900k
Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Elite AC
64GB Corsair DDR4 2933 Vengeance RGB Pro
AMD XFX 7900 XTX Merc310 Black Edition
LG UltraGear 38GN95B-B 38" monitor
Corsair HX1200 PSU
1TB EVO 980 Pro M.2 PCIe x4 SSD
2TB EVO 980 Pro M.2 PCIe x4 SSD
Two 2TB EVO 860 SSDs
Sound Blaster ZxR
Win 10 x64 Pro
HOTAS Cougar #4069 w/Uber II Nxt mod #284 & UTM bushings
#1390914 - 03/31/04 01:53 AM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,080
FlyXwire Offline
Member
FlyXwire  Offline
Member

Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,080
St.Charles, Missouri U.S.A.
It's a classic case of not being able to play and win by the rules.......in that case the looser wants to change the game!

VH find your own game, this one's already taken! \:D

#1390915 - 03/31/04 12:28 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,657
Neal Offline
Member
Neal  Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,657
So Aspect came up and said;

"We can do everything."

"We will do everything."

"It will be fantastic and complete with the most powerful engine ever put in a DrI."

"All German planes will be the best that they have ever been represented as being, as will the Allieds but they will of course be inferior as true history showed and not just to the Fokker DVII which nothing Allied ever came near, even many years later."

And 3 guys said;

"No. Just the end of the war and only this one small part of it."

Then the 3 guys said;

"And damn well make sure there can be no real expanding on it!"

And to really make it unbearable they commanded;

"Pork all the Axis planes! That they shall forever be known as inferior to Allieds! Except maybe the Fokker DVII because we can't hide the Treaty of Versailles! But make the DVII only average good at all things, not the best at anything and that will show those Huns!"

So Aspect changed the whole development program to suit.

Interesting. Very interesting.

If there's going to be a WWI sim with a narrow focus then it should only be on Bloody April, nein?

:rolleyes:


Neal

#1390916 - 03/31/04 01:25 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 88
Wing Chaps Offline
Junior Member
Wing Chaps  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 88
Uprooted from Dixie
Quote:
Originally posted by VonHelton:
Quote:
Originally posted by ArgonV:
Man, do you ever stop?
No.

I will forever point out this debacle for all time, in the hope that people in the future won't be duped into accepting less by idiots like you when they could've had more.
All right, now I've got to say something...

Just who do you think you are that you can tell a software company what you want in a sim, and they'll slap their heads and say "What were we thinking? Why, if Von Helton wants the whole war with every square foot of land modelled and every plane that made if off a drawing board, by God we have to GIVE it to him! Never mind that we're going to have to re-do our code from the ground up! Never mind that we have to do deep research on about 3000 planes since God knows Von Helton won't accept a mere survey sim!

Why, the creator of Return of the Jastas has spoken!"

I've got news for you, bud. When someone sets out to do a project, it's THEIR project, and they've already worked out in their mind pretty much how they're going to do it, what they're going to emphasize.

They'll MAYBE set up or visit a forum about their game to generate publicity FIRST, then maybe glean an idea or two IF IT DOESN'T DISTRACT THEM FROM THEIR COURSE.

What you're asking for is a major, time consuming change in their project, and they'd be fools to do it. At that rate, they'd never finish the sim, and they'd go out of business.

Don't you think it's bloody obvious that we'd ALL like a sim that modelled the globe all at once, French, Italian, AND Russian fronts, flying boats, tanks, individual soldiers running on the ground, the physics of rain drops hitting the airplane accurately modelled?

Oh, I'd LOVE that! Except I probably wouldn't live long enough to see it released, it'd be buggy as all get-out since the more complicated the program, the more likely the bugs. And I'd have to break the family budget buying a new computer with the horsepower to run it smoothly, if such a thing is even made yet. Oh, and the company would go bankrupt.

Quote:
Originally posted by VonHelton:
I will forever point out this debacle for all time, in the hope that people in the future won't be duped into accepting less by idiots like you when they could've had more.
I thought you were just an eccentric aerophile. No, you're a jerk, too!


I like cheese too!
#1390917 - 03/31/04 02:59 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 903
Trajan Offline
Member
Trajan  Offline
Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 903
What is that saying?

Oh yeah; If you want something done right you hsve to do it yourself.

As they say in Il2 land, "Make your own sim."

We can look forward to many postings of, as Pen put it, "Blah blah nonsense blah, blah" if it is not done his way.


"We have come to bring you Liberty and Equality, but don't lose your head about it. The first one of you moves without my permission will be shot." Marshal of the Empire Francois Lefebyre
#1390918 - 03/31/04 03:15 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  

**DONOTDELETE**
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered


Quote:
Originally posted by Wing Chaps:
I thought you were just an eccentric aerophile. No, you're a jerk, too!
I'll say this one more time. If you still don't get it, I figure your beyond hope.

KOE set these forums up to find out what we want.

3 loud mouthed jerks pipped up & said we wanted a snapshot in time, and one person (ME) wanted the whole air war, or at least what RB had.

When others chimed in with the 3 people, that's what KOE went with.

To put it bluntly, I was outvoted.

#1390919 - 03/31/04 03:28 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 903
Trajan Offline
Member
Trajan  Offline
Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 903
"Blah! Blah! Nonsense. Blah!"


"We have come to bring you Liberty and Equality, but don't lose your head about it. The first one of you moves without my permission will be shot." Marshal of the Empire Francois Lefebyre
#1390920 - 03/31/04 05:16 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 88
Wing Chaps Offline
Junior Member
Wing Chaps  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 88
Uprooted from Dixie
Quote:
Originally posted by VonHelton:
I'll say this one more time. If you still don't get it, I figure your beyond hope.

KOE set these forums up to find out what we want.

3 loud mouthed jerks pipped up & said we wanted a snapshot in time, and one person (ME) wanted the whole air war...
No, it is YOU who are beyond hope. You mischaracterize what these people said and want, because it's not what YOU want. I stopped by this forum in it's earliest days and saw you vehemently protesting that the list of airplanes wasn't NEAR what you wanted. All along you've wanted MORE, MORE, MORE, and scream like a banshee when someone fails to agree with you.

Quote:
Originally posted by VonHelton:
I will forever point out this debacle for all time, in the hope that people in the future won't be duped into accepting less by idiots like you when they could've had more.
If YOU can't see how this makes you sound, it is YOU who are beyond hope.

And, I doubt very seriously that KOE would ever have though "You know, we'd like to do a sim about only one year of WWI, with maybe only a dozen aircraft flyable. Geez, though, let's set up a forum, and if the folks there want the whole war, with maybe one or two extra years thrown in in case the Germans could have held out, and maybe 777 aircraft flyable, well we'll just give it to 'em. I mean, whatever they want on the forum we'll GIVE it to 'em!"

All anyone needs to ask is "Just WHY did VonHelton start this thread?"


I like cheese too!
#1390921 - 03/31/04 05:20 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  

**DONOTDELETE**
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered


Quote:
Originally posted by Wing Chaps:
All anyone needs to ask is "Just WHY did VonHelton start this thread?"
That's simple......I give credit where credit is due. They won, and got their piece of a game.

What's not to understand?

.....You must be one of those Kool-Aide drinkers, I bet.

#1390922 - 03/31/04 05:21 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 88
Wing Chaps Offline
Junior Member
Wing Chaps  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 88
Uprooted from Dixie
Quote:
Originally posted by VonHelton:
.....You must be one of those Kool-Aide drinkers, I bet.
Scotch. Neat.

I'm struggling to find the relevance of that, though...


I like cheese too!
#1390923 - 03/31/04 07:13 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 903
Trajan Offline
Member
Trajan  Offline
Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 903
Scotch and cheese.

A winning combination.


"We have come to bring you Liberty and Equality, but don't lose your head about it. The first one of you moves without my permission will be shot." Marshal of the Empire Francois Lefebyre
#1390924 - 03/31/04 07:29 PM Re: And the winner is........!!  

**DONOTDELETE**
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered


scotch cheese and valium for me...never met anyone like him in my whole life.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RacerGT 

Quick Search
Recent Articles
Support SimHQ

If you shop on Amazon use this Amazon link to support SimHQ
.
Social


Recent Topics
Autographs
by F4UDash4. 05/18/24 06:34 PM
Boxing fans
by RossUK. 05/18/24 03:11 PM
Bud Anderson was 102
by F4UDash4. 05/18/24 01:14 PM
The guy in War Games passes at 92
by NoFlyBoy. 05/18/24 02:28 AM
V-22 (all variants) wings clipped.
by Blade_RJ. 05/17/24 11:33 PM
Unusual climate conditions during WWI.
by RedToo. 05/17/24 04:52 PM
WW2 allied railroad effort after D-Day
by oldgrognard. 05/16/24 12:06 AM
New Viper Demo team livery
by RossUK. 05/15/24 03:48 PM
Beate Uhse-Rotermund.
by RedToo. 05/14/24 03:47 PM
South Africa’s C-47 Dakotas Set For Retirement
by F4UDash4. 05/11/24 07:09 PM
Copyright 1997-2016, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0