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#1390744 - 03/27/04 07:34 AM July 6 1917  
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Should MvR been grounded?

According to this, yes.

http://aeromedical.org/Articles/Richthofen.html


"We have come to bring you Liberty and Equality, but don't lose your head about it. The first one of you moves without my permission will be shot." Marshal of the Empire Francois Lefebyre
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#1390745 - 03/27/04 11:25 AM Re: July 6 1917  
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#1390746 - 03/27/04 04:35 PM Re: July 6 1917  
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Here is an excerpt from a review of the book Richthofen: Beyond the legend of the Red Baron.

"The author does include the latest research on the Fokker Dr1 and demythologizes that aircraft at least. (Richtofen wasn't overly enchanted with it, contrary to legend, but the fighter he really wanted the DVII wasn't ready.) I was frankly surprised to see a serious gap in the research that I read while living in Germany. The Luftwaffe Surgeon-General pulled Richtofen's medical records out of the archives and made a possibly crucial psycho-physiological profile of him ca 1917/18.
This profile concludes that his head injury sustained in 1917, was serious enough to permanently ground him (even at the time; German medicine in WW1 led the world). He also found evidence that the famous nurse who attended him, Kaetie Obersdorf was a compromise between the Surgeon-General's office and Richtofen/High Command. Finally, and most relevant for Kilduff's book, the profile's author proposes that chronic symptoms from the injury may have impaired Richtofen's judgement: leading to his fatal mistakes on 21 April 1918."


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#1390747 - 03/27/04 07:45 PM Re: July 6 1917  
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I agree, I've read Kilduff's book and created an honor's project presentation on Richthofen at college in the past. I am certain he should have been grounded after the head injury, he was never 100% ever again, but he wanted to keep flying and someone of his merit was valuable for the entire army's morale so he kept going.

I vaguely remember something Richthofen said about flying over the trenches and seeing the poor, downtrodden soldiers climb out on their dugout roofs, risking life just to wave him on and cheer. He was flying for them it seems, doing the best he could to releive the ground forces pain. And in doing that he sacrificed his own health and eventually his life.

We also must realize that the loss of so many friends began to effect him, Kilduff captures a moment in Richthofens house where he is looking at photo's of old friends and his mother is looking on. She points to a young pilot and says what ever happened to him, Richthofen says "dead", she points to another and Richthofen says "dead" again, then he says please stop asking mother, they are all dead \:\( Was a sad and gripping moment and something I'd never heard before.

Lost in his 80 kills, and surrounded by myth and legend it is often forgotten that he was a real person just like you, and just like me. The war effected him and the loss of his friends effected him. He wasn't a god, or a machine, he was a man.


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#1390748 - 03/27/04 09:45 PM Re: July 6 1917  
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I remember in one of the early RBII online wars, von Helton was hit in the head when he went after a flight of FE2's....

#1390749 - 03/27/04 10:05 PM Re: July 6 1917  
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Well said Black.

Moritz... \:D

I was thinking of how the head wound may of impaired his judgement. Especially on the one day in April.

To chase an enemy over their own lines by himself, and low enough to experience ground fire, was not a sign of good judgement, IMHO.


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#1390750 - 03/27/04 11:36 PM Re: July 6 1917  

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Quote:
Originally posted by Moritz of JG1:
I remember in one of the early RBII online wars, von Helton was hit in the head when he went after a flight of FE2's....
Yea, and I know a few people who need to lose some teeth.......

Your point?

#1390751 - 03/27/04 11:50 PM Re: July 6 1917  
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Quote:
Originally posted by VonHelton:

Yea, and I know a few people who need to lose some teeth.......

Your point? [/QB]
Typical empty, childish threat.


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#1390752 - 03/28/04 11:21 PM Re: July 6 1917  
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