AOTP, SWOTL, Tie Fighter, Medal of Honor, BF 1942, to say nothing of IL2FB, have proved that.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pen:
[QB] Proven, not proved.

Sorry, Pen, but if you're going to be pedantic you should be right . See below.

proved, proven
Proved is preferred as a verb: The prosecutor has proved the defendant's guilt. So far, both teams have proved unbeatable. Proven is best used as an adjective (to modify a noun): a proven remedy, a proven failure, proven oil reserves.

proved or proven
Both are forms of the past participle of to prove.
Proved is more common in British English: She has proved her innocence, but proven is often used as an adjective: her proven innocence.

No offense intended, just being a pedant myself

Ok Pen

Water under the bridge.

I'm hoping to see a nice stable of aircraft - my favorite has always been the D VII, and I have no doubt it will be in the initial release.


AK

Actually, the RBII Plane set was a well-reasoned group for an intial plane set. Here are the RBII planes and those I would add by nationality for a group that would better illustrate squadron usage:

German:
Fokker EIII
Halberstadt DII
Albatos DII
Albatros DIII
Albatros DV
Pfalz DIII
Fokker DrI
Fokker DVII
Pfalz DXII
Aviatik CII
Albatros CIII
Rumpler CIV
LFG Roland CII
Halberstadt Cl.II
Hannover Cl.III
Gotha GIV

I would Add:
Rumpler CII
DFW CV
AEG GIV
Junkers J.I/J.4
Albatros C.VII
Albartos C.X
LVG C.V
Rumpler CVII or Rubilt (High altitude variant of C.IV)
Friedrichshafen GIII

French:
Morane
Nieuport 11
Nieuport 17
Nieuport 24 |
Nieuport 28
SPAD VII
SPAD XIII
Salmson 2A2
Breguet XIV

I would Add:
Caudron GIV
Voisin III
AR1/AR2
Morane L or P parosol 2 seater

Britain:
DH2
DH4
Sop 1 1/2 Strutter (2seater)
Sop Pup
Sop Camel
Sop Tripe
Sop Snipe
SE5a
BE2e
RE8
FE2b
Hanley Page

I would ADD:

DH5
Sop Dolphin
Sop strutter bomber
DH9
AW Fk8

Don't forget the Zepplin R types

I would include the Staaken RVI, if there was a module or a map that went to the targets in England.

In that instance, I would even favor Zeppelins (gas filled)as AI.

I want the Nieuport 28.

With cheese.

Here is an interesting site I found.

http://www.wwiaviation.com/toc.shtml

:D

Salute Everyone!
I feel we don`t really need 50 flyable aircraft to make this a great simm.
I`am not sure if we even need 12.
To make this simm a blast we only need these planes!
DR1
D7
Alb
n28
camel
Spad13
And a few twin engine bombers
Theses will be the main one used for online play.
But K.O.E. might release there flight simm early and later on give us a addon with more planes. Its kinda cool to get more planes later on like they have done in il2. Its fun learning to fly a bunch of new aircraft plus they make money to create new versions of there game.
But it is always nice to have 12 or more planes to fly! But i don`t think this is a major factor! Best will be how the game measures up for some great multi player action. And how it works for squad matches. I`am not that impressed with Virtual Online Wars like they do in IL2. I would rather see whole Squads going at it at once like in RB3D. Plus its always nice to have it setup to do are own mods to it. But for me i hope the the online play will be funnier then IL2 and RB3D.
Take Care!

Come on Rooster, aim higher than that please!

Droops

You might be able to do a little online war with that but the offline campaign would be terribly lacking. IMHO even online would suffer. There isn't single two place machine in that list, and these aircraft were the core of WWI aerial warfare.

Working on a mid 1917-1918 assumption:
RE8
DH4 (already seen in screen shots)
Bristol F2b
Salmson 2a2
Breguet 14
Dorand AR
Rumpler CIV
LVG CV
Albatros CX
Halberstadt CLII (already seen in screen shots)
Hannover CLIII

Just MHO, but without proper two seaters a campaign suffers badly, online or offline.

I would also miss my beloved Pfalz DIII. Beautiful airplane taht served in very significant numbers.

Of course, alot depends on what the actual start date of KOE is. The more they move it in the more planes are needed. The Breguet and Salmson, for instance, really didn't come into service until later in 1917.

.....The Defense rests, your honor.

Hi Pen!

Your initial post sparked one thought to me.

It's a shame Kroll ain't here to say there's one plane he'd rather not see, and that's any plane with you at the stick!

But then, how often did he actually get to see you coming anyway? Cruel, I know.


Neal

Salute Everyone!
I have to admit, its going to be a blast learning to fly all these different aircraft. I haven`t even heard of most of them. I always forget about the offline campaign players. I buy a flight simm and go straight online with them. I never played much other then multi player. Sorry about that! We have quit a few aircraft in RB3D but to have any chance at all with the DR1 and D7 we have to fly the best and fastest the Allied have.What i`am trying to say is the Hun players hate to loose, so they usely fly the DR1 which is a killing machine. But we have wars where we have to fly the older slower aircraft. And they are alot of fun! But mostly on the main servers everyone flys the DR1 D7 N28 CAMEL SNIPE SPADE13 TRIPE. But we don`t know how koe will setup there online. If its a virtual online war where we start very early in the war and progessivly move forward in time, it will be great to have all these aircraft. RB3D lost alot of hardcore players when they kept messing with the AM TO AMFM TO finally FM which made the planes easier to fly. I bet most of the RB3D players couldn`t hardly get off the ground if they went back to the original game settings. It took alot more skill, your wings would fly off in a deep dive. The Camel was a great plane once you mastered it, and kept it from stalling out. Now no one flys it because its to slow. A good Camel Jockey was a hard thing to become, It put a chip on your shoulder. It seems to me in WW1 aircraft the planes that turn the best and fly the fastest have the biggist advantage. Which is true in all flight simms. But especially in WW1 planes. But you do run into people who practice in the older planes and learn everything about that plane. Advantages and disadvantages of that certain aircraft, and they can blast you out of the sky. I can`t wait till this game comes out, it should be a alot of fun. I hope they create some clouds in this game so we can fly through them to surprise are enemys.
Take Care!

Along with the usual suspects, Albatri, Sopwiths, SPADS, and Fokkers...

I'm delighted to see the Nupe 28, Handley Page and Gotha in the screenshots!

I just hope it means that we can do a career as a bomber pilot. I mean, someday I'll want to take a break from my Nupe, though to some it may seem cheesey...

Ummmmm cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese (Homer type drool)