Been thinking of getting my Bride a new machine...when it becomes available. I've read the uSoft page about 'Vista'...but I can't tell if it does anything 'useful to us' any better/ faster/whatever... than her XP box does.

Anybody have any real world info on 'Vista'...??

I don't know much except what I've read and the DRM they are wanting to implement is going to be hard to swallow.

whaddahell's a "DRM" ??

DRM=digital rights management.
Meaning that if you want to view very high definition content on Vista then you will need
a HDCP (high definition copy protection) capable monitor and video card. I've got the HDCP monitor but not the video card. Read the below.
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news2.php?ID=13024

And if you want to view that same high-def content on XP (or any other version of Windows), you won't be able to do it at all.

HDCP was either "do it or lose it" from the content industries.

Chief,

Wait until after Vista is released, and wait until users have gotten a chance to see how things work on it. Lots of things.

Even if Vista is the greatest thing in the world, you will not want it on day one. It will have idiosyncracies, quirks, problems, bugs, etc. that very few will be familiar with. People here can tell you a 15-step procedure in Windows XP with their eyes closed, but they won't know how to help with Vista.

I wonder if Microsoft is going to release Vista upgrade version which is I could upgrade from Windows XP Professional to Windows Vista. That would be cool.

Something to irritate the heck out of ya!!

And a very good reason to go Linux.

DRM, the worst invention since mankind.

Okayyyyyy....I did ask, didn't I ?

Her XP machine is really slow....1.67 Gc processor. 768 MB RAM....[I don't want it]

Birthday coming up, good time...IF* Vista was available from H/P...[not yet]. Hate to 'invest' the bux for a hot XP system, that will be ancient ...soon after.

We'll wait a while, I guess...Get her a new pair of fuzzy slippers instead !

Want to upgrade the hardware? No problem. But XP works just fine...

In direct response to the topic question: What I think about Vista is that I'll be waiting quite some time.

I think Appassionata von Climax will too.... It just seemed like a 'nice' idea. One of her lady friends has a 'blitz' fast machine, and I am told it is SO good for the photos and cards, etc.

Thanks for the 'slaps on the cheek'... I needed that...

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1936059,00.asp
Interesed in DRM?

Thanks, speed'... but not after that. (1) Over my head; 'above my pay grade'. (2) I remember the root expression from whence 'this sucks ....' came, and it is like fingernails on chalk board to see/hear it in mixed company!

Naaa.. we'll hang in here with the Status Quo.

"Good idea, but not worth a dern"

I'm only going to buy vista if I see something revolutionary with it but the specter of more DRM bullstuff makes me wary.

Ya got me, 'vega' ....I'm going to crawl back under my Old Gear rock...

Get a Mac instead .

Cheers

Mr B

I read just yesterday that if you don't have HDCP hardware you will be able to view it but at a lower resolution, higher res than current DVD but not by much. Plus they might add noise to the image to further degrade the quality and message overlays about needing HDCP hardware.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1935703,00.asp
Any operating system that does not support HDCP in this way will always reduce the resolution of those HD-DVD or Blu-ray discs that choose to require it. In other words, expect similar DRM features to be added to operating systems such as OS X or for them to have crippled support for HD-DVD and Blu-ray, or no support at all.

I think Vista will end up being a good, solid OS, but it probably won't catch on as fast as MS would like. It has plenty of improvements in it, but not the kind that catch people's attention and make them go "wow!".

I'll probably end up being an early adopted with Vista, if the financial situation allows it. Depends also on how they do the 64bit version. If it has to be purchased seperately (instead of 32bit and 64bit on the same disk) then I'll probably hold off a while.