Originally Posted by GrayGhost

When it comes to attacking targets, SAM is superior to TWS.


I don't know why I keep at this since you seem to be a lost case.

Anyway, SAM is not necessarily superior to TWS when it comes to attacking targets!

Again for the "millionth time" TWS allows the pilot to engage much more targets at the same time when compared to SAM. SAM in the F-16 allows the pilot to engage two (2) targets at the same time tops. Also in the F-16 TWS allows the pilot to engage up to 10 (TEN!!!!) at the same time. So here's a HUGE advantage of TWS when it comes to attacking targets, this compared to SAM.

At the same time TWS doesn't trigger the enemy targeted aircraft's RWR suite which means that the these same enemy aircraft are likely to not know that they are being engaged and as such won't execute evasive maneuvers and deploy countermeasures (until it's too late) and as such ensuring a much more successful attack!
SAM has much more chance to trigger the enemy aircraft's RWR (as you sort of "admit" down below) which means that the enemy aircraft will soon know that it's being engaged and as such can employ evasive maneuvers and deploy countermeasures soon which means that the attack is much more likely to fail!


Originally Posted by GrayGhost

It's actually reduced coverage compared to RWS.


Go read the manual for Christ sake!

So lets see. First you talk about a magical (F-15) manual which supposedly supports you rhetoric which nobody else ever seen. Now I posted an official F-16 MLU manual which fully supports what I've been saying and you dismiss what it's written in the manual! Way to go for a discussion indeed rolleyes
Guess that you're one of those who don't care about learning about anything usefull - you are just one of those guys that want to always be right even when you aren't...


Originally Posted by GrayGhost

SAM dwells on target sort of like STT (though more likely it's a mini-raster), but for a very short time. Just enough to get accurate altitude and vector information. It revisits the target on schedule, interrupting the search pattern and then coming back to it, so your search pattern loses some integrity.
Either way, as the distance is reduced, STT becomes preferred as it can deal with maneuvering targets better than anything else. And that distance is anywhere between 10-20nm, depending on tactics, radar capability etc.


We've already discussed this. Real pilots don't worry as much about triggering RWRs, they themselves not being perfect instruments anyway, and likely saturated in a real EW environment, unlike their ungodly ISR-like capability and 'silent skies' that we have in games.
The other guy already knows you're there, he knows you're engaging, so what if you lock him up?


What the f**k are you talking about?!
When you're being tracked by modes like STT and even SAM, the RWR will light up like a freaking Christmas Tree and this well before the actual missile release which will INEVITABLY prompt the enemy pilot to perform evasive action which can defeat the attack. As opposed TWS won't trigger the enemy RWR which means that a successful attack with a missile like the AMRAAM is likely to be much more successful.
Guess that terms like "sneak attack" or "alerting the enemy until the very last moment" are completely alien to you, go figure rolleyes

Also your:
"Real pilots don't worry as much about triggering RWRs, they themselves not being perfect instruments anyway"
rhetoric is indeed for laughs! Yeah RWRs are so useless and unimportant to the point that every and all combat aircraft nowadays have such suites, go figure genius! duh


Originally Posted by GrayGhost

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This means that if you're tracking an enemy aircraft using the TWS mode the enemy won't likely know that it's being tracked


Why, is he brain-dead?



Well if you don't understand what was being explained to you earlier on then it starts to become clear who's the "brain-dead" here, that's for sure! rolleyes