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#4466675 - 03/20/19 04:01 PM Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down [Re: Alicatt]
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,614 Mr_Blastman Hotshot
Mr_Blastman Hotshot Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,614 Atlanta, GA	Originally Posted by Alicatt Trying to find answers in the emergency procedures manual. Quote JAKARTA/SINGAPORE/PARIS (Reuters) - The pilots of a doomed Lion Air Boeing 737 MAX scoured a handbook as they struggled to understand why the jet was lurching downwards, but ran out of time before it hit the water, three people with knowledge of the cockpit voice recorder contents said. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...earch-for-fix-sources-idUSKCN1R10FB?il=0 Lack of training or something deeper in the software? Too much "rules and procedures" and not enough "stick and rudder" training. If the ground is getting closer, by God pull up! I see our youth too often being taught to regurgitate and recite rather than think and create. Perhaps this problem isn't endemic to America alone. Alas, not every pilot can be Chuck Yeager, but more of a fundamental understanding of gadget-free flight training would be a boon to all commercial pilots. Basic understanding of stick, rudder, trim wheels and throttle would be a good place to start. This doesn't absolve Boeing of potential culpability. More data needs to be collected and processed.

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Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Haggart	03/10/19 02:45 PM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Sluggish Controls	03/10/19 04:09 PM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Chaz	03/10/19 04:23 PM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Mr_Blastman	03/11/19 02:43 PM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Sluggish Controls	03/13/19 05:27 AM
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Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Haggart	03/11/19 03:47 PM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	oldgrognard	03/12/19 05:48 PM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Alicatt	03/12/19 08:53 PM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Wigean	03/13/19 02:09 PM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	EAF331 MadDog	03/12/19 07:50 PM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Haggart	03/13/19 01:19 AM
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Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	PanzerMeyer	03/13/19 01:15 PM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Haggart	03/13/19 01:18 PM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Mr_Blastman	03/13/19 02:53 AM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Haggart	03/13/19 05:38 AM
Re: Another Boeing 737 Max 8 Flight Goes Down	Roudou	03/13/19 01:48 PM
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