From what you are saying Ice,I'll leave engineers alone.I don't want to mine and I don't pew-pew.

I'm happy doing what I do,which is basically what I was doing way back in late 2015. I've ignored all new features although I did buy Horizons but even then I only do planetary landings to deliver goods/missions,I don't do SRV's.

EV's are the Devils matchbox.