Macklroy, I'll be happy to answer any of your questions. If you wanted to start a pilot in the Intrepid Flyers group then the start date would be 12/5/16 or if you wanted to start a pilot in the Warbird Flyers group then you would use today's date of 4/4/17. Both groups started on June 1, 2015 but the Intrepid group was dated about six months before and that's why the difference in the dates. There are a couple of us that have pilots in both groups and you would be welcome to do that as well. In answer to your second question of using QC to fly your training flights, that is how we all flew them so it would be fine for you as well. I hope I answered your questions to your satisfaction and if you have any more please feel free to ask. Welcome to the group and I'm sure you will enjoy yourself.