Originally Posted By: piston79
Originally Posted By: Hpasp


Since 1967 (the fielding of the S-200 [SA-5]), no new type of towed or fixed SAM system were fielded by the Soviet Union, only self propelled ones (5 min readiness as basic requirement), and with a good reason.

Almost half century later there is a proposal for the upgrade of the SA-5 (a hopelessly outdated system, that actually never performed while it was still young in the 80's)?

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I cannot believe what did you say.... you're speaking like GrayGhost....
By the way, it is pretty recently that SAM missiles could achieve a distance of the VEGA shot...


Do not misunderstood me, I think that Vega was an extraordinary technical feat of that time

- it mostly achieved what it was designed for
(keeping Habu out of the WarPact airspace)

- its the biggest challenge to operate and simulate.
(it is the least covered by SAMSIM, I would say that Volhov is at least 80% simulated, while Vega is well under 40%)

- with the proliferation of Tomahawk, Soviets usually co-located one Neva with their Vegas
(same was done in GDR at the 80s, and Hungary during the 90s)

- Shooting well over 200km range is probably unnecessary
(or can be done against non maneuvering subsonic targets only)

- Since 1967 (first fileding of the S-200) no Soviet SAM system was accepted into service without the 5min deploy from march feature.
(and with a good reason)


Last edited by Hpasp; 10/28/14 03:32 PM.

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