Originally Posted By: Hpasp
As I recreated these historically accurate battles, I felt myself as a SAM fan more and more desperate...

While we still use '50~'60s Soviet technology (except the nice to have IRZ), our foes changed their B-52's to F-117A & B-2A, and their dumb Shrike "bottle rockets" to the HTS pod (with detected SAM Geo-location data sharing capability to other Vipers in the theater)+HARM SEAD, plus the DEAD Night vision Capable F-16CG with LANTRIN+LGB.

The Video8 tape of the F-16CG (serial: 88-0550) shot down by 3/250rd PVO (third SAMSIM mission) was salvaged by the Serbian military...
... here is how DEAD work (and sometime it fails...) from the Night Falcon view.

http://vimeo.com/802793

Internal clock of the F-16CG Night Falcon is used:

00:04:00 "hammer2 you got steerpoint 41, I'm sorry hammer3 you got it"
CRACK3 F-16CJ HTS pod located 3/250rdPVO and sent its coordinates to HAMMER3 F-16CG as "Steerpoint-42".

00:04:47 "crack3 magnum 6 golf 100"
HARM shot against 3/250 rd PVO from CRACK3 F-16CJ

after the HARM missed, 3rdPVO starts their real battle...

00:04:58 "hammer status" - "hammer21 left to steer 6" - "crack73 AAA" - "hammer2 hammer3 AAA back in your position"
3/250rdPVO illuminated the F-16CG for a short time, while the AAA defending the "Veliki Radinici" reserve AFB distracted the pilots.

00:05:30 "hammer status" - "hammer1 is going to target that (AAA) underneath you"

00:05:45 "2 supported"
3/250rdPVO started continuous target tracking.

00:06:00 "we're attacking AAA 15 west of bull"

00:06:17 V-601PD missiles are launched by 3/250rdPVO

00:06:24 "mud3 north - visual"
one Viper pilot seen the SA-3 missiles

00:06:36 "mud3 hit" - CAUTION!!! - "mud three just hit again" - "hammer1 defending" - "mud3 just take a hit"

ON Air Time total: 51s
00:05:45-00:06:17; 32s target tracking
00:06:17-00:06:36; 19s missile flight till kill



Nice post thumbsup
Was that some sort of SAM ambush, as mud3 didn't really seem to perform any evasive manoeuvres before being hit?

The detailed tactics used by SAM operators both offensively and defensively are very interesting. Usually you'd think with weasels in the air there was very little they could do, being sitting ducks if they ever emitted. I think the time it takes the SEAD systems to triangulate/isolate the emitting source also plays a part, but with LGB and CBU equipped aircraft, one could be forgiven for thinking that it wouldn't take too long before the site was located, once the SEAD platform had narrowed the location to within a few miles (assuming the site isn't within a populated city).

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