Did gamers all become spoon-fed wussies all of sudden? You'll get a player who is willing to spend 5 hours completing an almost impossible FPS level but they don't have the patience to learn to fly a simulated plane in combat?[/B]

The point you miss is while they are trying to get through that level they are "SHOOTING" the whole time. 2 sec into the game and you are doing 80% of what you came to do. Not bouncing off the ground like I did for 2 days with RB or trying some saber jet game a few years ago and couldn't get the stupid thing to do anything but slide along the ground . Don't care for games like Doom or Quake but as Adolf put it so well "Your message (game) can't be any smarter than the dumbest person in your audience" . Take it from me (I work with the public) there are a lot of slow people out there .Look out here comes a F-86 down the highway. :p _