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#372112 - 08/15/06 03:22 PM Re: banding issue.....again
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Plenty of modern vid cards will run JF-18 without banding; they are all ATI cards.
Joe, I thought that there were even more problems with ATI cards, in terms of gridlines and slowdowns and all that. Maybe that's not the case, just what I gathered from wading through all these posts.

Mac, see this thread (in order not to hijack this historically long post dedicated to banding).

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=32&t=009876

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#372113 - 08/16/06 08:33 AM Re: banding issue.....again
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As far as I know DXTweaker fixes the gridlines and the slowdowns. Thus, the only problem with using an ATI card with antialiasing is that it corrupts the HUD, but the ATI drivers have alternate pixel center or an equivalent option to fix that (unlike the latest nVidia drivers).

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#372114 - 08/16/06 01:29 PM Re: banding issue.....again
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Well, my only problem is banding, and I can use DXTweaker to fix that. But then the videos won't play, instant action doesn't work and the planes have this nasty shimmer/shaky effect when you view them in ext view. So it's cool, it works, I like it -- but not that much. I'm going to back to a 5x00 series GForce card.

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#372115 - 08/17/06 02:19 PM Re: banding issue.....again
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Had to change my new motherboard to another new motherboard, but I did it. Got a FX5900 in there now and it's perfect. No banding, no slowdown, no gridlines, nothing. Nada. Its perfect. Life is good.

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#372116 - 08/19/06 02:55 PM Re: banding issue.....again
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I really feel very sad, as much as I love TSH3 I still can't change my video card back to GF5 series. And when using TSH3 unfortunately the game crashes every second-third time on exit when DXTweaker is used. I didn't have those crashes in TSH2 (very strange, init?). So, no DXTweaker - means banding, AA slowdown, and some other problems. With DXTweaker TSH3 ruins results of the mission too often to live with it. At least if the game created a log it could save my interest. I don't know but it feels like it is due to the DXTweaker window can not be minimized on entering the game, but it's only my gut feeling and may well be totally wrong. Don't know how to fix it, nothing works. Any ideas? TSH2 - no problem.

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#372117 - 08/19/06 11:52 PM Re: banding issue.....again
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Joe or someone from TSH may help me. I've got TSH2 and TSH3 sitting next to each other on my HDD. I rename TSH3 F-18 installation to something else and run a few different missions in TSH2. Each time I exit from the game anytime in the middle and have all my results always registered in the UI. Then rename it all back and run TSH3. Out of 5 missions 3 for sure crash CTD on exit. What is there in TSH3 that can cause it? Will try to reinstall it yet but something is definitely different in the way it interacts with DXTweaker. Any ideas please?

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Dirk.

TSH3 does not ever crash without DXTweaker.

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#372118 - 08/20/06 03:11 PM Re: banding issue.....again
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Weird that the resolution seems to matter...

AS far as using an old beta HUD patch, I think you will find the misalignment and general un-polished factor makes the work in TSHv3 much better. I've never had a problem reading the heading tape.

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#372119 - 08/20/06 11:51 PM Re: banding issue.....again
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Sorry guys, it was all misleading. The problem with CTDs on exiting 3D world persisted until I totally reinstalled TSHv3.03 from scratch. My basic TSHv2 install that I used as a platform for TSHv3 upgrade included different skins and textures and some custom files that I had assorted for TSHv2 mostly with Art Manager. I can't even remember now the details of all the custom files I used but they all worked fine in TSHv2 and looked nice.

Anyway, after reinstalling new TSH 3.03 (full TSH1, TSH2, TSH3 roadmap according to the latest manual), and using DXTweaker J I have not seen a single CTD. Messed with the new fresh install, game settings, drivers, and DXTweaker whole day yesterday, entered and tested different missions and didn't see a single crash. I'm very very happy with the stability, look and performance of TSHv3.03 + DXTweaker "J" on my HDD now.

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