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#4352765 - 04/22/17 11:43 AM Re: When did classical die from the mainstream? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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What's the difference between an opera and a musical?

I'd say the 'telling a story with songs' genre is alive and well.
The production technique has changed in that a 'big sound' doesn't need a big orchestra anymore, but modern amplified instruments and electronics produce a cheaper and better effect anyway in most cases.

#4353105 - 04/24/17 12:56 PM Re: When did classical die from the mainstream? [Re: mikew]  
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Originally Posted by mikew
What's the difference between an opera and a musical?

I'd say the 'telling a story with songs' genre is alive and well.
The production technique has changed in that a 'big sound' doesn't need a big orchestra anymore, but modern amplified instruments and electronics produce a cheaper and better effect anyway in most cases.



You make some valid points. I think the main difference between an opera and a musical is mostly just the vocal style. I know that the operatic singing style simply turns off most modern audiences and that may be the reason why that art form is declining so rapidly. With standard musicals, the singing style is much more in line with modern tastes. In many cases it sounds not much different from vocals you hear in pop music.


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#4353108 - 04/24/17 01:30 PM Re: When did classical die from the mainstream? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Well according to M-W, a musical is a story told by song and often dancing, while an opera is a drama told by song. So I guess all operas are musicals, but a musical isn't necessarily an opera.


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#4353109 - 04/24/17 01:32 PM Re: When did classical die from the mainstream? [Re: NH2112]  
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Originally Posted by NH2112
Well according to M-W, a musical is a story told by song and often dancing, while an opera is a drama told by song. So I guess all operas are musicals, but a musical isn't necessarily an opera.



Plenty of operas have dancing in them though. smile


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#4358501 - 05/21/17 12:31 AM Re: When did classical die from the mainstream? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by NH2112
Well according to M-W, a musical is a story told by song and often dancing, while an opera is a drama told by song. So I guess all operas are musicals, but a musical isn't necessarily an opera.



Plenty of operas have dancing in them though. smile

Opera Balets such as Mlada with music by Rimsky-Korsakov.


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#4358503 - 05/21/17 12:42 AM Re: When did classical die from the mainstream? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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By the way, if we are going to be technically correct about what we are discussing we should call it "music in the classical vein." Orchestral or symphonic music might do, but classical music is music from the classical period:

"The classical period is between the baroque and romantic periods. This means that music from the classical period is music composed between about 1750 to 1820. The greatest composers of the classical period are Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756–1791). Ludwig van Beethoven (1770–1827)."


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#4358712 - 05/22/17 02:58 PM Re: When did classical die from the mainstream? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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That's a good point you bring up LB. I guess I really meant to say "orchestral music".


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