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#3615867 - 07/29/12 10:24 AM Re: Nice video of the F-35's carrier take off and landings [Re: SeaAce]
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I'm interested to see how the stealth surfacing holds up at sea. I read a while back that a good part of ground time on other stealth designs was maintenance on the surface to maintain stealth effectiveness.

I can't recall where I read that, so any input on the reality would be welcome.


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#3615877 - 07/29/12 10:45 AM Re: Nice video of the F-35's carrier take off and landings [Re: SeaAce]
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Great vid!
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#3615893 - 07/29/12 11:01 AM Re: Nice video of the F-35's carrier take off and landings [Re: SeaAce]
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Thank you for posting the Video.

Still find it odd that US Carriers don't follow the Ski-Ramp configuation for the VTOL aircraft though. Ashame the RN ones won't see Carrier born use for up to 10 years.

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#3615902 - 07/29/12 11:11 AM Re: Nice video of the F-35's carrier take off and landings [Re: adlabs6]
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Wow...it lands using rainbow power!

Now that the services are no longer "Don't Ask - Don't Tell" there is no need to hide the rainbow fuel. biggrin

Originally Posted By: Cat
I also would like to know whether they've done tests with the F-35B carrying a full combat load of bombs and missiles for a combined A2A/A2G heavy mission like they'd do over Afghanistan. I'd like to see that STOL takeoff with a full combat load. I'm sure it's designed to do that.

Do they hang stuff on the outside or is it mostly carried in the internal bay? I'd guess that they would mostly use those 500 lb. JDAMs for precision strikes. My assumption would be that the JDAM is far cheaper than any guided type missiles.

Originally Posted By: SeaAce
Guess they have that worked out.

That's the US Government you're talking about - they might *not* have that worked out yet.. biggrin Wasn't there something about the F-35 tailhook for the Navy variant having to be redesigned because it wouldn't work with the current or next generation arresting cables?

Originally Posted By: Cali
Hope the nose lg stand up to the abuse, it didn't look good towards the end of the video.

I noticed that wobble too. LOL.. Throw in a thunderstorm, rough seas, poor vis..and things could get interesting. What we are seeing in that awesome video (and really is good..props to the OP) is ideal circumstance footage. I'm sure they are easing in to what will be "normal" ops with it. Lots of challenges crop up in the development that the designers didn't plan for. I'm always amazed when one of these projects make it from paper (er..CAD) to reality.

Originally Posted By: adlabs6
I'm interested to see how the stealth surfacing holds up at sea. I read a while back that a good part of ground time on other stealth designs was maintenance on the surface to maintain stealth effectiveness.

Yeah.. Is it the same type of paint or some new type?

Again - great video..

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#3615971 - 07/29/12 01:12 PM Re: Nice video of the F-35's carrier take off and landings [Re: SeaAce]
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Good video. I'd like to see those same videos when heavily laden with ordnance.
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#3616014 - 07/29/12 02:31 PM Re: Nice video of the F-35's carrier take off and landings [Re: BeachAV8R]
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Originally Posted By: BeachAV8R
Originally Posted By: Cat
I also would like to know whether they've done tests with the F-35B carrying a full combat load of bombs and missiles for a combined A2A/A2G heavy mission like they'd do over Afghanistan. I'd like to see that STOL takeoff with a full combat load. I'm sure it's designed to do that.

Do they hang stuff on the outside or is it mostly carried in the internal bay? I'd guess that they would mostly use those 500 lb. JDAMs for precision strikes. My assumption would be that the JDAM is far cheaper than any guided type missiles.

My understanding is it would be internal stores at the beginning of a conflict, then adding external when the anti-air threat had been reduced. They can also strap on a gun if needed.

Originally Posted By: BeachAV8R
Originally Posted By: SeaAce
Guess they have that worked out.

That's the US Government you're talking about - they might *not* have that worked out yet.. biggrin Wasn't there something about the F-35 tailhook for the Navy variant having to be redesigned because it wouldn't work with the current or next generation arresting cables?

If I remember, right, the hook is in an improper location, and would cause a problem between the landing gear, arrestor hook and cable. I don't think they've got that one sorted out yet.

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Originally Posted By: adlabs6
I'm interested to see how the stealth surfacing holds up at sea. I read a while back that a good part of ground time on other stealth designs was maintenance on the surface to maintain stealth effectiveness.

Yeah.. Is it the same type of paint or some new type?

The theory is that it is new and is supposed to be much more rugged, and they are even talking about using it on the F-22 to make it easier to maintain, but I don't know if anyone is certain about how well it will actually work.

Edit: And as a side note, I've heard that compared to the Harrier, the F-35 is much easier to fly, land and take off. I read somewhere that one of the testers, I think in that video, was an F/A-18 pilot who'd never flown a VSTOL aircraft before, and he had no problems landing it on a carrier.


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#3616065 - 07/29/12 04:13 PM Re: Nice video of the F-35's carrier take off and landings [Re: Chucky]
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Looks awesome to me!

That front fan cover looks like a massive air brake to me on those short take-offs.


It's used to re-direct air down into the Lift fan isnt it?
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#3616099 - 07/29/12 05:11 PM Re: Nice video of the F-35's carrier take off and landings [Re: Cali]
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Originally Posted By: Cali
Hope the nose lg stand up to the abuse, it didn't look good towards the end of the video.


It looked like it was about to roll an ankle.

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#3616107 - 07/29/12 05:21 PM Re: Nice video of the F-35's carrier take off and landings [Re: SeaAce]
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The carrier don't look like its moving forward
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