I was expecting "fly" to illicit a response. If the sim does eventually get finished alot of those disappointed and over reacting fans might wish they kept their copy.

Or they could just download it through Steam again. Once a game is activated on your steam account you no longer need the physical game or serial for it.

On the subject of getting finished. It has been 15 months since initial release and not much has changed or improved since then. A few game breaking bugs were fixed and the old "placeholder" IL-2 sounds were replaced. Apart from that nothing but news about Battle over Moscow.

All I have seen for months from the devs is, "Here is the latest news on the Cliffs of Dover patch"... queue some IL-2 or Pe2 images from BoM. "Oh and the graphics re-write is going well, we have removed clouds and trees, and also cut more holes in the 109 cockpit". Maybe for the next patch they will work on removing the buildings, I would say that should net around 40% FPS boost

P.S. If Battle over Moscow turns out to be more of the same, I propose we call it Battle über Moscow. Or BüM for short

BüM I like that.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it to be good, but I'd also love to have a threesome with 2 beautiful women. Neither one is likely to happen.

In 2009 I played Rise of Flight with a socket 775 dual core and a 512mb gpu, and I did not have CTD problems. Rise of Flight is far from perfect, but comparing its early development to CoD doesn't make sense.

The problem is there are still people out there whose systems aren't quite able to run 1946 much less Cliffs. I built my current system with the idea of running RoF and that made it fit to run CoD, gradually it will need a new upgrade as more "modules" become available just like the old series did. Most people would see a definite increase in performance just adding a decent Vid card and Ram, I still don't understand why so many have issues when my system is hardly huge and I can run it as well as I do 1946.

It makes perfect sense, both sims were released unfinished, and their community was pissed. ROF was released alittle more finished, so it took less time to get sorted, and now their community is singing its praises. So what if it takes alittle longer for COD to get finished. People have very short memories. Personally I've never had a CTD with COD, although many people have because, COD is far more complex than ROF, and the COD code is going thru major rewrites that still require optimizations. Even though the ROF code is less complex ,I give the ROF developers alot of credit for designing the game engine, building it, and optimizing it, in a very short period of time.

The 2 most glaring differences between ROF and CLOD(gaming aspects apart) for me are these...

1. From the moment 777 took over, we had regular and accurate updates with a clear understanding of where ROF was going, What bugs were going to be fixed in the next update and what content was going to be added.
2. Each patch fixed the bugs and problems it said it would and added content, it did not add problems and bugs.

ROF progress has been steady and traceable, each problem fixed one step at a time with constant improvements and content.

By the time 777 Studio took over ROF had a defined and working game engine that enabled the devs to have a very good idea would could and couldn't be accomplished. I have great respect for the ROF devs and there decent game engine.

The COD developers will not have that luxury until the game engine is working and optimized. Never mind the fact that the COD game engine is a far more complex and will need more time to sort out. I'm just not sure how long the investors will continue to throw money at it. The fact that the investor threw money at a move is a good sign.

To be clear, the only thing that changed when 777 moved in was the name of the company. 777 had been the North American publisher and bought the game when the Russian owner was going to call it quits. The development team was more or less the same from neoqb to 777.

On the other hand, there is a perceptible difference in strategy with 777 at the helm. Those who credit 777 with saving the title from oblivion also fault it for halting the development of early war planes.

Oh well, this thread is about BoM. Sorry.

Just as a remark, well, this posting strategy (spreading your opinion in unrelated posts, and in other's name - "those who" above, instead of a simple "i think that") reminds me of a certain user. Hi, Gavagai, is it you? :P