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#3594007 - 06/19/12 01:14 AM Wining a race by 0.0000 sec difference
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http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/drag-race-ends-0-0000-seconds-between-winner-234307546.html

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Drag racing used to be a sport of shade-tree mechanics and pink-slip swapping, but modern drag racers rely on technology and finely honed skills as much as any other professional motorsport. Here's an example: this Sunday's NHRA final that saw the winner and the loser separated by less than one-ten thousandth of a second -- with 0.0000 seconds between the two cars -- thanks to one driver's awe-inspiring reflexes.

Sunday's final in the Pro Stock class at the Ford NHRA Thunder Valley Nationals in Bristol, Tenn., featured former world champion Mike Edwards in the red car above versus Allen Johnson in his Dodge. Johnson's car made the trip down the quarter-mile faster than Edwards, hitting 207.05 mph in a 6.661-second run, with Edwards' car doing a slower 6.674-second pass at 206.16.

But Edwards hit the pedal on his car just 0.005 seconds after the green light lit -- a near-perfect reaction time that bested Johnson's reaction of 0.018. Adding those to the runs, both finished at 6.679 seconds; although the display time only goes to four zeros past the decimal, the internal NHRA clocks track down to the millionths of a second, and video shows Edwards hitting the line a fraction of a inch before Johnson.

It's not unheard of for a professional drag race to finish in a 0.0000 tie, but it is the first time a NHRA final has come down to such a slim margin. "I don't even know how you can describe something like (the final) in words," Edwards said afterwards. "Four zeros for the margin of victory. I just can't believe it."

Johnson was similarly incredulous, but felt it a little differently. "I think we'd rather shake the tires, hit the wall, anything other than lose like that," he said.


How long before even the computers can't tell the difference?
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#3594024 - 06/19/12 02:07 AM Re: Wining a race by 0.0000 sec difference [Re: Desert Eagle]
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I was watching that when it happened on ESPN....looked like a tie on TV for sure.
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#3594097 - 06/19/12 08:14 AM Re: Wining a race by 0.0000 sec difference [Re: Desert Eagle]
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so....how long before somebody invents a device that the driver hits when the Christmas tree starts and a computer then automatically launches the dragster at exactly the right moment ? It was a tie ...call it that.

I like club drag meets and racing much better than the pro stuff these days.
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#3594434 - 06/19/12 07:08 PM Re: Wining a race by 0.0000 sec difference [Re: No105_Archie]
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Originally Posted By: No105_Archie
so....how long before somebody invents a device that the driver hits when the xmas tree starts and a computer then automatically launches the dragster at exactly the right moment ?

They already have those boxes and they are illegal in the pro classes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay_box
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#3594458 - 06/19/12 08:09 PM Re: Wining a race by 0.0000 sec difference [Re: No105_Archie]
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Originally Posted By: No105_Archie
so....how long before somebody invents a device that the driver hits when the xmas tree starts and a computer then automatically launches the dragster at exactly the right moment ?


The difference with the pro's and the club guys is the tree they run, your local guys run a .500 tree, where each yellow light comes down then green as opposed to the pro's who run a .400 tree, which is all yellow lights "at once" and then green. The pros light is so much quicker that the moment they release the clutch (At the first sight of yellow light) they go, by then after the green light. Most top fuel racers have a fairly slow reaction time because they do not rev up the motor prior to launching. If you look at their reaction time it is normally in the .050 and higher. The pro stock guys average much better times, Edward's last two lights were .005 and .007. Usually any light lower than a .010 is a "bad red light". Usually because they released the clutch as the yellow lights started opposed to reacting to them. Guess wrong and its a red light.

The local guys have classes, "electronics, boxes, etc." called different things at different tracks. These are essentially the same as releasing the clutch except the electronics control when the car is released. The delay box can be set to delay the car .500 or whatever the driver prefers from when the button is released. So if a driver releases the button .010 after the first yellow light, the car waits .500 and the overall reaction time would be a .010. Some guys release the button on the first light, some on second or third; the delay box allows the driver to configure this delay. If a driver normally has a slow reaction time, of .040 every time he can take .030 out of the box to get closer to a perfect .000 light.

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#3594606 - 06/20/12 06:25 AM Re: Wining a race by 0.0000 sec difference [Re: Desert Eagle]
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Went to my first NHRA race a couple weeks ago in Englishtown NJ. TV, even a big one with surround sound does NOT do this sport justice. Loved it! They're talking about the "slow" Pro Stock cars above, too which are only awesome. Add 110 mph for the nitro funny cars/dragsters. You could hear a nitro car burnout or pass from like 5 mins from the track, and then in a couple seconds it was back to silence. Awesome.

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#3595076 - 06/21/12 12:45 AM Re: Wining a race by 0.0000 sec difference [Re: razkaz24]
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Originally Posted By: razkaz24
...The local guys have classes, "electronics, boxes, etc." called different things at different tracks. These are essentially the same as releasing the clutch except the electronics control when the car is released. The delay box can be set to delay the car .500 or whatever the driver prefers from when the button is released. So if a driver releases the button .010 after the first yellow light, the car waits .500 and the overall reaction time would be a .010. Some guys release the button on the first light, some on second or third; the delay box allows the driver to configure this delay. If a driver normally has a slow reaction time, of .040 every time he can take .030 out of the box to get closer to a perfect .000 light.



Now explain delay boxes w/ cross talk and mashing the button on the other guys light. lol. The system at our track times to the 1/10000 then we go to rt for the tie breaker. IF that matches (and it has) we go to MPH. Our C and D gas guys are real good at .000/.001 lights and running dead on their numbers (9.60 and 10.60 index).

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