Forums » Air Combat & Civil Aviation » Over Flanders Fields » Before Anyone thinks their Hi-Tech video card is fried Active Topics You are not logged in. [Log In] [Register User]
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:
#3581325 - 05/28/12 12:42 AM Before Anyone thinks their Hi-Tech video card is fried
Uncleal Offline
Member

Registered: 05/18/12
Posts: 507
Loc: Florida, USA
If you see a Pale Green Cloud along the ground, it's only a German Gas Attack, they've been known to behave that way in the past. It has No effects on pilots or engines, but I'd hate to be in the infantry, beneath it.
Basically Clorine Gas is Heavier than air, sooo every foxhole or trench would be full of the stuff. One breath is all it takes. Your Lungs are History, without Lungs you die.

The really nasty schitt was the blister agents, like Mustard Gas, that was colorless. The only way you knew that was being used, was everybody around you died screaming in pain, as the gas destroyed human skin and eye balls, and it didn't help your Lungs much either

Soo When your Nieuport is going down in FLAMES, just think about it, jumping ain't that Bad of a way to go. If you have to go
_________________________
There's no such thing as Bad Weather, only unsuitable clothing


Top
#3581353 - 05/28/12 01:54 AM Re: Before Anyone thinks their Hi-Tech video card is fried [Re: Uncleal]
CaptSopwith Offline
Member

Registered: 05/28/03
Posts: 276
Loc: United States
You certainly have a flair for putting things into perspective, Unc! I try to get this very point across when lecturing my students on trench warfare. The looks on their faces show just how little is understood - let alone "absorbed" by students now. We're getting so far away from the actual events that a disconnect is forming.

Discussing the brutal, often horrific events of the war in great detail drives the point home.

Then again, if I have to pick between falling from my Nieuport or being gassed... yikes, not sure which is worse. I've seen photographs of pilots who fell from the air...

God, what a horrible war.

Top

#3581379 - 05/28/12 03:30 AM Re: Before Anyone thinks their Hi-Tech video card is fried [Re: Uncleal]
Hasse Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 05/19/12
Posts: 25
Mustard gas was actually yellow-brown in colour, hence the name. Phosgene was the colourless stuff:

_________________________
"Upon my word I've had as much excitement on a car as in the air, especially since the R.F.C. have had women drivers."

James McCudden, Five Years in the Royal Flying Corps

Top
#3581467 - 05/28/12 08:42 AM Re: Before Anyone thinks their Hi-Tech video card is fried [Re: Uncleal]
Uncleal Offline
Member

Registered: 05/18/12
Posts: 507
Loc: Florida, USA
Things sure have progressed when it comes to killing your fellow MAN. Today we have Fire and Forget Targeting Systems where you PAINT your target with a Laser Beam ( even at night ) wearing night vision gear.

And once you get the proper indication on the rocket launcher ( small red light). Point it in the proper direction ( close will do nicely ) Fire and Forget, one target less.

Or it can be a 500 pounder dropped by an F16, above the clouds. As soon as the Pilot gets the proper indication, he drops. You ask any weapons man in the USAF,if he can drop a 500lber into the window of a house. he'll say Which Window

In World War One, Gas attacks had to just right, if the wind changed your troops got Gassed. It was basically an artillery shell that exploded in mid air atomizing the gas from it's liquid form, into the cloud

The original Fire BUT DON'T Forget. Many times Special Dispencers were used where the explosive charge was detonated by wire, so it was 100 yards from the Enemy, yet 1000 yards from your guys, as long as the wind didn't shift, it was a homerun
_________________________
There's no such thing as Bad Weather, only unsuitable clothing

Top
#3581483 - 05/28/12 09:17 AM Re: Before Anyone thinks their Hi-Tech video card is fried [Re: Uncleal]
Uncleal Offline
Member

Registered: 05/18/12
Posts: 507
Loc: Florida, USA
One NASTY trick used was to Booby Trap Your Own Trench with Gas Dispensers. You'd evacuate your position to the rear, letting the enemy make it his, then the Gas Dispenser went off and everybody in that trench died.

The guy in the observation balloon just saw a German Retreat, so you and your chums were ordered to take the Trench. And you did . . . SURPRIZE
_________________________
There's no such thing as Bad Weather, only unsuitable clothing

Top
#3582093 - 05/29/12 09:06 AM Re: Before Anyone thinks their Hi-Tech video card is fried [Re: CaptSopwith]
Rugbyfan1972 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 05/23/12
Posts: 15
Loc: Lancashire, UK
CaptSopwith,

I actually prefer the use of a revolver, fairly quick and painless (compared to the other options outlined).
_________________________
6 X USB 2.0 Ports
ATI Radeon HD 5870 VaporX 2GB
Corsair 8GB XMS3 PC3-10666 1333MHz
AMD Phenom II X4 965 @ 3.4GHz AM3 Black Edition
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 BIT
Asus M4A78T-E (AMD 790GX) AM3
AMD Heatsink & Fan - Low Noise
1.5 TB SATA-II HDD UDMA 300 7200 32MB
Corsair 850W
Samsung (SH-S223L) DVD +/- RW 22x (SATA)
Samsung (SH-D162D) 16x DVD-ROM Black (IDE)
Creative Audigy SE 7.1 (PCI)
Antec Twelve Hundred Black

Top
#3582121 - 05/29/12 10:27 AM Re: Before Anyone thinks their Hi-Tech video card is fried [Re: Uncleal]
Olham Offline
The barmy Bordeaux-red Baron from Berlin
Member

Registered: 08/24/11
Posts: 1083
According to German Wikipedia, the very first chemical warfare attack was made
by French troops in August 1914, using Xylolbromid (a kind of tear gas).

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasangriff#Erster_Weltkrieg

But yes, the first really killing stuff used was chlorine gas, which was simply
poured out from big flasks by the Germans in the 2. Battle of Flanders near Ypres
on 22 April 1915. The gas was heavier than air and sank into the British trenches.
It is nowadays estimated, that it killed 1200, and wounded 3000 men.

On 31. Mai 1915, Germany used Chlorine gas with 5% Phosgen added.
On 22 February 1916, France was the first nation to use pure Phosgen gas.
Phosgen gas is held responsible for the majority of the gas victims in the Great War.
The gas was later fired in gas granades.

Mankind can be perfidious at war, and so the later artillery tactics were to fire
a mix of gas granades. One gas, which would only just irritate the upper airways and
which could penetrate the gas mask filters, caused the soldiers to take off the masks.
Then they were exposed to the other, lethal gasses.

Even without a parachute, I would have prefered to be a pilot.


Edited by Olham (05/29/12 10:27 AM)

Top
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:

 

Forum Use Agreement | Privacy Statement
Copyright 1997-2013, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.