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#3551536 - 04/05/12 09:14 PM Re: How machines became sentient. [Re: mucat]
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Originally Posted By: mucat
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"... I am entirely at your disposal as a sexual partner..."

Where can I buy one?

Are you sure you want one? Once she start to think and becomes sentient, she will be exactly like a human wife, except faster, stronger, smarter... instead of nagging every hours, this one will be capable of nagging every second, will not get tired, will not sleep.

Yep yep

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#3551641 - 04/06/12 03:39 AM Re: How machines became sentient. [Re: Kontakt5]
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Originally Posted By: Kontakt5
Cool video, but there's nothing in that which indicates sentience- every apparent emotion or reaction or speech could be no higher awareness than the computer doing what it was programmed to do.

This dude named Searle had shown the Turing test wasn't adequate- a computer for example which has the power to communicate with a user so that the user cannot distinguish from a human being does not after all actually indicate the computer is self aware or understands what it is communicating. Searle showed in a hypothetical thought experiment that a person could act similarly as a computer, but not have any idea what he is communicating. Suppose, says Searle, you don't read, speak, or understand Chinese. You are placed in an isolated room where someone on the outside pushes through slips of paper with Chinese characters printed on them. Suppose there are instructions available that gives you possible responses as outputs to the inputs you received, you just look them up, like a program. By analogy, you would be acting in the same way as a computer, although you don't actually have understanding of what you are communicating.

Well yes, it is not relevant to make proof of something with the analogy of another, and when this other thing is only hypthetical . IF the instructions given are not outside the person who doesn't speak nor understand Chinese, but inside him, he speaks and understands Chinese, simply. And isn"t a computer program inside the machine ?

Edited by kaa (04/06/12 03:40 AM)
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