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Posted By: Rotton50

New P-40 model walk around - 02/14/12 10:16 PM

I brushed up John's new P-40 model for, well, selfish reasons. I'd like to get it into the DAW planeset. I had a bunch of texture mapping alignment problems to fix, a couple of R/S issues and I added 3D landing gear struts as well as a middle antennae wire:





It needs a little tender loving care on the skin but otherwise I think it's ready to go.



While I was at it I turned my own HR Republic P-35 into an Re2000 for the DAW scenario:
Posted By: Col. Gibbon

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/14/12 10:30 PM

Looking good Ray. cool

But stand by for moans on the aerial wire position. I can't find the pic I was send by Perter, but I'm sure he will steer you in a good direction. wink
Posted By: Knegel

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/14/12 11:17 PM

Hi Ray,

did you link the flaps to the flaps action code??

For sure thats a beauty!

Greetings,

Knegel
Posted By: Rotton50

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/14/12 11:23 PM

No, I forgot to do that, Ralf, thanks for the reminder.


John, as per your e-mail I checked a number of pictures of RAF Tomahawks and the placement seems correct now.
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/15/12 12:34 AM

Ray, send me a copy of the model so I can finish up the skin that's on it. I spent quite a few hours getting that shark mouth just right.
I've also got several for the Adam and Eves AVG unit.

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3072929.html#Post3072929







and







Posted By: Brit44 'Aldo'

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/15/12 04:29 AM

Sorry to TWI, but you guys rock!
Posted By: Fran_Zee

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/15/12 11:35 AM

Thanks, John, Ray and Mike
for this wonderful Tomahawk (British name for an American Lady wink ) Will be a gem for any North African scenario. And, of course, she looks sooo beautiful - better than the Kittyhawk IMHO.

Ray, the Reggiane Falco I looks gorgeous, too. Just a little hint - the main differences towards the P-35 are the air intakes above and below the radial. Look here:

http://www.finn.it/regia/immagini/musei/fvm_reggiane_re2000_falco1_01.jpg

Would it be possible to add at least the large intake on top? Then this would be a perfect add-on for a Malta scenario. The Re.2000 operated mainly over Malta and over Northern Tunisia using its bases in Sicily. The Regia Aeronautica didn´t have many Re.2000; the main users were Sweden and - Mike will be pleased - Hungary. Hungary acquired 70 Italian planes and produced 200 to use it in its Airforce. Listen, Mike, they used a very colourful camouflage:

http://www.acesofww2.com/hungary/Hungary.htm

The main Reggiane version over Malta and Northern Africa was the Reggiane 2001 Falco II, equipped with the German DB 601 engine, the same as for the Bf109E and Bf109F:

http://www.mauroantonellini.com/joomla/aeroplani/41-reggiane/74-reggiane-2000-2001-2002

The successors were:
Re.2002 Ariete "Ram-Aries"(radial engine)
Re.2005 Sagittario "Archer-Sagittarius"(inline engine DB 605 - Bf 109G and K), which is the most beautiful IMHO of the Reggiane versions:

http://www.hyperscale.com/2010/reviews/kits/sword72031reviewmd_1.htm

I know you´re a What-If aficionado, Ray. Here´s the Re.2007, a jet project, for you:

http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/axis/ity/wanta2007.htm

burger
Posted By: Rotton50

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/15/12 01:02 PM

Already at work on the top side air scoop, Fran.

I have a very good book about the Republic Aircraft Company that details how the P-35 design was used as a base for the Re-2000. Without financial remuneration I might add.

The author is critical about the fact that the Italians were able to fit flush retracted landing gear to the wings long before Kartvelli did.

Interesting that the lowly P-35 led to two distinct development lines. The Re200* series and the P-47 series.






BTW, I grew up 10 miles from the main Republic plant on Long Island, NY.( It's a shopping mall now. )
Posted By: PeterMBooth

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/15/12 06:52 PM

John & Ray,

Nice one! RE aerial wires John, is "Perter" me or another one - my memory is not good these days and it has been on the stocks for a while.

Cheers

Pete
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/15/12 07:08 PM

Thanks for sending the model so quickly Ray. I see that you've fixed the 'little finger' that sat at the front of the wing root. It drove me crazy...

Fran, boy is it good to have your eyes and knowledge back with us. Thanks for the Magyar information. I recently acquired a book on "Hungarian Aces of the Eastern Front" and your link add to the book will enable me to do some more skins for A Magyar Kiralyi Honved Legiero in my Eastern Front collection.
Posted By: Rotton50

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/15/12 07:12 PM

Originally Posted By: iron mike
It drove me crazy


Short trip. exitstageleft
Posted By: FlyRight

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/16/12 02:34 AM

thumbsup but since Fran brought up the what-if, anybody remember this fictual CFS pic posted here a year ago...???



...something else to chew on incase you get bored!
Posted By: Flying Tiger

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/16/12 03:12 AM

tomahawk/p40c looking good ray...when finally tweaked
could u blokes produce an alternative skin minus
the shark mouth,reason being that some raf variants
did'nt have it, plus there are several different shark
mouth designs for the avg models....













big ta if poss.....
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 02/16/12 05:20 AM

Roger that Ade.
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/07/12 02:46 AM

Pilot Officer Jack Bartle, 6.5 kills with No.112 Squadron displayed his Aussie roots with a kangaroo on his machine...





And as his wingman, GA - A SN. AK461




Each machine carried a unique shark mouth in No.112. The ground crews and pilots painted their own toothy grins rather than follow one set pattern. Thanks to Pete Booth for researching No.112 and coming up with codes, serial numbers and illustrations.

More to come... Charge
Posted By: Knegel

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/07/12 06:47 AM

Iam realy looking forward to this!!

The P40C(not the later models) imho is one of the most beautiful planes ever build. The proportions just fit. smile

With such a skin it will be a pleasure to shoot it down. biggrin

The later P40´s look more like a Buchon in comparison to the 109G, just ugly(ok not that ugly, but the proportions dont fit anymore).

btw, Ray, did you fix the flaps action code??
Posted By: Rotton50

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/07/12 08:32 AM

Yes the action codes are correct now but i have to fix a missing element in the wing root.

I'll be working on that today now that the Skua is finished.
Posted By: Col. Gibbon

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/07/12 09:23 AM

Any Glide problems? biggrin
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/07/12 03:28 PM

Not that I'm aware of. I've got to zero in on the palette and fix the transparencies but it looks OK.

yep


Posted By: PeterMBooth

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/07/12 07:32 PM

Always liked the Tomahawk which is probably why I have 5 kits of it compared with only 2 Warhawks and 1 P-36

Pete
Posted By: Knegel

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/07/12 08:38 PM

I must say, on the aboove picture the oil cooler look way to big, almost like a P40E. frown

From the wing it should only moove upward, here it looks like the oil cooler and the underside of the wing are in one strait line.

I hope its just a bad viewangle.
Posted By: Col. Gibbon

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/07/12 10:21 PM

Hi Ralf

This aircraft is the same as my model



The other sharks are MkIII/P40F, which have the shallower oil cooler. wink
Posted By: Rotton50

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/07/12 11:18 PM

Hey John, just a quick note.

I added three position flaps to the model so make sure your personal collection is up to date.

Sent it to IM today so it shouldn't be too long before it's available.
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/08/12 04:57 AM

GA-C


GA-X Flt. Lt. Clive R. Caldwell





wave
Posted By: Knegel

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/08/12 05:29 AM

Hi John,

but thats not a P40C with the 2 wing guns and 2 nose guns like Mikes skin show.

What exact model is it??

Greetings,

Knegel
Posted By: Col. Gibbon

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/08/12 09:57 AM

Hi Ralf.

It's a P40B/C Tommahawk MkI/IIA/B.















Hi Ray.

I forgot to mention you need to add the probe to the left wing. I always forget to add them. frown biggrin
Posted By: Rotton50

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/08/12 10:45 AM

Ok.
Posted By: Moggy

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/08/12 11:16 AM

They missed out Palestine, TransJordan, Iraq and Syria smile
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/13/12 03:21 AM

2 more are finished, GA-Y and GA-F





wave
Posted By: Rotton50

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/13/12 09:25 AM

Show 'em the three position flaps, show 'em the three position flaps, show 'em the three
position flaps.

Puleeeeze!!!!!
bananadance boing skyisfalling partything woot whoohoo clapping
Posted By: AngleOff

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/13/12 12:35 PM

Puleeeeze!!!!!
AO
Posted By: PeterMBooth

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/13/12 07:20 PM


Anybody got any more pics/profiles of 250 Squadron Tomahawks in 1941? Or better still 3 RAAF who definitely flew combats agains the Vichy French in Syria. They only converted in May 1941 and broke a lot of undercarriages in the process, but by June they were up and running and shot down or straffed (as the RAF then called it) a shedful of Vichy aircraft in and around Syria - mostly descibed as Morane, Potez and Glen Martin types, the latter being Marylands I guess. Code CV though not usually displayed at this time I think.

Some of you will already know this, but for any prospective researchers out there all the remaing RFC/RN/RAF operational records plus some from the Commonwealth WWII Squadrons are available online from the National Archives at Kew. Some are fairly basic but others include handwritten combat reports by the actual pilots - pretty impressive and highly recommended. You pay a modest fee for each file downloaded but I think they are well worth it. Send me a PM if you want to know more.

Pete
Posted By: Flying Tiger

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/16/12 06:29 AM

gibbo,ray....

a few items if humanly poss....

further to knegel's comment re the radiator chin scoop,
it does need to have a more rounded belly with the cooling
flaps sitting lower than the fuselage underside.

The prop spinner cone is not to scale and way too long.

Pitot tube on port wing needs to be added.

Six exhaust stacks only.

Aerials need to be finer or skinned in half tones for light/shade
thinning effect.




here's a couple of screens from my il-2 setup which show
the scale and perspectives...



Posted By: Rotton50

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/16/12 11:30 AM

Ok, I edited the spinner and radiator profiles and I reduced the antenna wire as much as possible.

One problem we have is related to the graphics rendering. A single black line shows up as a series of dashes rather than a continuous line. I don't think there's much we can do about it.

I already added the pitot tube when I added the three position flaps. Not sure why it's not showing in the latest screenshots. Mike?

The exhaust stacks are painted on so Mike will have to address that one.
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/18/12 05:46 AM







I had to juggle the model a bit about the nose to get the exhaust stacks to render correctly. Then stole and modified the exhaust pipes from one of Flying Tiger's P-40s to complete the nose job on the skin. yep

Thanks Ade! kneeldown
Posted By: AngleOff

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/25/12 06:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Rotton50
Show 'em the three position flaps, show 'em the three position flaps, show 'em the three
position flaps.

Puleeeeze!!!!!
bananadance boing skyisfalling partything woot whoohoo clapping


Bump!
Posted By: Flying Tiger

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/25/12 11:46 PM

lovely, lovely...can we have an old style prop option
pleeeeese.....

yep
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 03/26/12 12:02 AM

That one is up to Col. Gibbon. He created the model and selected the prop disc. The issue will be settled before the model is posted.

Still no flap shots. "Huston we have a problem..."



Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 04/06/12 06:02 AM

The last 4 for the squadron...









Now to convert to 8-bit...

more to come

wave
Posted By: Fran_Zee

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 04/06/12 10:34 AM

Love them, though...
EAW is NOT Il-2.
And this is good so.
thumbsup thumbsup
Posted By: Skylark

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 04/06/12 04:11 PM

Hey Ray,

Nice pitot tube .... sort of reminds me of my colonoscopy exam bananadance



Cheers mate pilot
David
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 05/06/12 04:42 AM

After a few problems with palettes I've been making a good progress at the conversion of the Tomahawks from 24 down to 8-bit. 4 more to go.

Tomahawk II GA-B, AN338, "MENACE" Pilot Neville Bowkers



and

GA-A, AK461 Sidi Haneish, Egypt, Fall 1941



The squadron should be finished and posted by the 10th

burnout
Posted By: Pobs

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 05/06/12 08:59 AM

Nice work Mike smile


cheers,



Pobs
Posted By: Col. Gibbon

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 05/06/12 12:40 PM

Hi Mike.

Did that wire ever get fixed?
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 05/06/12 02:37 PM

No, it is 2 pixels wide on the texture panels. Perhaps if it was reduced to a single pixel it would help. I will see if I can make the change. If not a cal for help will happen.

IM

Here is a single pixel version


Posted By: Col. Gibbon

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 05/06/12 04:23 PM

Looks much better. wink
Posted By: iron mike

Re: New P-40 model walk around - 05/09/12 05:56 AM

Both the 8 and 24-bit versions have been sent to Sandbagger for posting at my page.

Cheers cheers
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