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Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020

Posted By: MarkG

Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 02:06 AM

<Per new Car and Driver today.>

Back in the day I would often be thinking, "That's a pretty sharp car"...

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Nowadays, not so much...

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Posted By: oldgrognard

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 02:14 AM

Agreed
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 03:15 AM

There is no generation of Supra that I wouldn’t mind owning. They always pull it off. The price tag however...
Posted By: Mr_Blastman

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 03:25 AM

They ruined it.
Posted By: Arthonon

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 03:33 AM

It's basically a BMW Z4, including the interior.

The Supra in between the two was better looking as well, imho:

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Posted By: Crane Hunter

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 03:41 AM

IMO, the Japanese have largely lost their mojo when it comes to car making.
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 04:21 AM

I owned a 1977 and 1981 Toyota Celica GT. For me, The Celica and the Supra lost it's way by the 1990's.
Posted By: WangoTango

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 04:35 AM

Looks like a jacked up Hyundai Tiburon.
Posted By: Arthonon

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 04:54 AM

I thought the '82 Celica Supra was nice looking too:

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Posted By: Alicatt

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 07:15 AM

My son's friend runs an ex-UK Supra here in Belgium, meaning it is right hand drive, it's well sorted and goes like stink. My son and that friend also have rebuilt early 90s BMW 325 which are classified as Old Timers so they get tax breaks etc. on running them.

Anyway 2 weeks ago my son his friend and girl friends were at a nightclub with the Supra and while the rest of them had a drink or two my son's friend remained BOB (it was a campaign to stop drinking and driving, from that the designated driver gets called Bob) leaving the nightclub they got a few hundred meters along the road and they get pulled into a traffic control.

When they stop, the police officer knocks on the window and the girlfriend winds down the window, from the moment they stopped my son, who is in the back, started filming with his mobile. The police officer shoves a breathalyser in to the face of the girlfriend and asks her to blow, she does as she is told, and, as she has had a good drink the breathalyser goes off, "Right" says the police officer "pull over there, we have some paperwork to do." "But I'm not the driver officer" says the lass, then the police man bends down and looks in the car and starts laughing.
The rest in the car were in stitches all through the whole thing, all papers etc. were all in order.


Darn! he has pulled the video off of his facebook page.
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 09:57 AM

I am generally a traditionalist and rather old fashioned, but I prefer the 2020 Supra.
Posted By: Arthonon

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 03:04 PM

Here's a pretty good overview from a Youtuber:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4oC8cvUb0kI
Posted By: Mr_Blastman

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by WangoTango
Looks like a jacked up Hyundai Tiburon.



This. A bulbous econobox.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 08:09 PM

Ok, so it's basically a re-badged BMW with noticeably less power than the car it's based on (even though it has the same engine), lots of faux air scoopery, a Star Trek dash and entertainment system and an auto-tranny? Oh boy. rolleyes

Having watched that video, I am *really* appreciating just how old-school they're keeping the Miata...

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 09:49 PM

I still want an RF, but I hate that screen ruining the interior.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 10:14 PM

Ah crap! That screen looks so tacked-on and tacky that I just assumed it did this... frown



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buFwdt61R5c


Come on, Mazda! Tuck it away, dosen't even have to me motorized, I can fold it in manually!

Yeah, that's *very* disappointing. I swear I read somewhere that it's retractable, though.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by LB4LB
I owned a 1977 and 1981 Toyota Celica GT. For me, The Celica and the Supra lost it's way by the 1990's.


Eh, that didn't get some some flak back then with where you live? smile
Posted By: Arthonon

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 11:49 PM

The raised LCD display is very common these days, and I'm not sure why. I think that's how it looks in the BMW as well. Also, rumor is that it's power has been understated, and that it actually puts out more power than what they say.

As for old school, I have the digital dash in my Mustang, and I love it, so I guess I'm OK with something not being old school smile

Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/18/19 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG
Ah crap! That screen looks so tacked-on and tacky that I just assumed it did this... frown



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buFwdt61R5c


Come on, Mazda! Tuck it away, dosen't even have to me motorized, I can fold it in manually!

Yeah, that's *very* disappointing. I swear I read somewhere that it's retractable, though.


Nope, it just sticks up there! That car would be perfect with no display like that. Put a narrow strip in there below the center vent instead of a full screen. Basic info, no gps. I’d love how clean it would look, less function would be a small sacrifice. It’s a Miata, “less is more”.
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/19/19 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by MarkG
Originally Posted by LB4LB
I owned a 1977 and 1981 Toyota Celica GT. For me, The Celica and the Supra lost it's way by the 1990's.


Eh, that didn't get some some flak back then with where you live? smile


I was used to it. I had many family members that worked for Ford. Many of my parents neighbors were not happy with me either. I have owned Celica's, Tacoma's, Carolla's, etc.. I owned a few Honda's too. I actually had fun with it, especially when some people would get pretty upset about it.

I did a few contract jobs for Ford. I had to go to the Rouge Plant and Woodhaven Stamping plant. I heard stories of what happened to Japenese cars there. One guy actually had his car doors welded shut in the parking lot. I bought a Ford Fiesta for $500 and drove that when I had to go to the plants. Actually, that little thing was a blast to drive.

Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/19/19 02:08 AM

I drove a Toyota when I worked for Delphi Packard years ago. I had to park in the "non GM" car parking lot waay in the back. LOL
Posted By: DBond

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/19/19 12:32 PM

When I was in high school there was a hot chick who had a Supra, which made her hotter ya know?

Despite that, I think the new one looks better.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/21/19 03:04 PM

Arthonon...

1. I agree with you on the '82 Celica Supra, that's a great look. I'm sure my car preferences were influenced in my impressionable years by "The Spy Who Loved Me" and "For Your Eyes Only". smile

2. If ya gotta go digital, that Mustang video is the way to do it (with an old-school gauge option)! Yeah, I can see why you like that in your car. thumbsup
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/23/19 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
They ruined it.

I agree completely.


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Posted By: oldgrognard

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/23/19 09:40 PM

To me the new Supra looks like a Hot Wheels car that is trying to be flashy. Something for the kids.
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/23/19 10:14 PM

IMHO, style wise, the mid '80s was the Celica's high water mark. The coupe was was my choice for best look.

It won't be long were almost every car will look the same anyways.
Posted By: Arthonon

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/23/19 11:36 PM

I thought the early '90s style for the Celicas wasn't bad, as long as it was the hatchback, but I think they had transitioned to front-wheel drive at that point, which I don't like for performance cars.

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/24/19 05:50 PM

The early 2000 Celicas also looked pretty sharp to me, back to that wedge shape I like so much...

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Posted By: Crane Hunter

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/27/19 04:50 PM

Because I had to.

Posted By: VF9_Longbow

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/27/19 04:56 PM

new supra looks ugly but it will go like a bat out of hell and woe is the clown who thinks he will beat one in a straight line at a stoplight. The thing is bound to make immense power. Only a few common production cars will beat it.

If it lives up to its history the engine will be highly modified to 1000+ horsepower more easily than almost any other production car.
Posted By: Crane Hunter

Re: Toyota Supra: 1990 vs. 2020 - 06/27/19 06:19 PM

The 5th gen will be the fastest factory Supra yet, however its BMW designed I6 seems to lack the lofty upgrade potential of the 4th gen's I6.
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