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Where retirees are going to and fleeing from

Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 11:56 AM

I figure this article might pique some interest since we have quite a few retired folks here or folks who will be retiring soon:

Top 3 destination States for retirees:

New Mexico
Florida
Arizona


Top 3 exodus States for retirees:


New Jersey
Maine
Connecticut


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/17/ret...3-states-and-fleeing-these-3-states.html




Even before reading this article I came to two conclusions:

Retirees want to live somewhere with a low cost of living and where the overall climate is warm and sunny.
Posted By: Mr_Blastman

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 12:08 PM

I don't blame them. Speaking from experience, major cities suck.
Posted By: No105_Archie

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 12:42 PM

I agree with PM. Old folks like to go where it's warm. Come January count the number of aging Canucks in Florida and Arizona.
Posted By: Spidey

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 12:46 PM

New Jersey is not exactly a major city. It's their property taxes that's the number one reason to leave.
Posted By: Dart

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 01:30 PM

Either that article wandered from it's original course or the author thinks NM, FL, and AZ are wilderness areas. smile
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Dart
Either that article wandered from it's original course or the author thinks NM, FL, and AZ are wilderness areas. smile



To some extent they are wilderness. There are huge areas of NM and AZ where you'll barely find any people or development. Even Florida has large low population/low urbanized areas up in the Panhandle region.
Posted By: Top Gun

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Dart
Either that article wandered from it's original course or the author thinks NM, FL, and AZ are wilderness areas. smile



To some extent they are wilderness. There are huge areas of NM and AZ where you'll barely find any people or development.


very true, we've visited AZ 4 times and the major cities like Tucson, Phoenix & Mesa are scattered with long empty drives in between them.
Posted By: KraziKanuK

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 03:40 PM

The old bones start to ache with cold and even more so if it is humid and cold. Then there is the snow and ice > walking is harder and falls usually result in broken bones.
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 03:40 PM

I know a few Michigan retirees that lived in a very nice retirement community in Arizona for the last 10 years. They recently moved back because they couldn't take the extreme heat anymore.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by LB4LB
They recently moved back because they couldn't take the extreme heat anymore.



I'll take the dry desert heat any day over the steam bath humid heat that I get in Miami!
Posted By: Top Gun

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
The old bones start to ache with cold and even more so if it is humid and cold. Then there is the snow and ice > walking is harder and falls usually result in broken bones.


yep, never mind too old to clear your driveway or roof. My ex in-laws are both retired, have a decent size driveway yet with them having 2 daughters, neither husband will go over and clear the driveway for them. I used to when I was married to his daughter, I even brought my youngest over to help because one of the last snowfalls we got was very wet and heavy. It's only a matter of time before they move south because all the grand kids are getting older HS/College age so they rarely see them anymore.
Posted By: Lucky

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 07:17 PM

If I could get my girlfriend to move I'd be out of the communist state of New York tomorrow.
Posted By: 462cid

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Top Gun
Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
The old bones start to ache with cold and even more so if it is humid and cold. Then there is the snow and ice > walking is harder and falls usually result in broken bones.


yep, never mind too old to clear your driveway or roof. My ex in-laws are both retired, have a decent size driveway yet with them having 2 daughters, neither husband will go over and clear the driveway for them. I used to when I was married to his daughter, I even brother my youngest over to help because one of the last snowfalls we got was very wet and heavy. It's only a matter of time before they move south because all the grand kids are getting older HS/College age so they rarely see them anymore.


Disgusting. I am sorry for those folks that used to be your in-laws. I hope they at least kick in money to have the drive cleared. If they do nothing, then those women did not marry men. Whatever they married they are not men. Before I had my stroke I'd drive my RWD high hp manual transmission car to my parents at 4am, park in a snowbank, and shovel them out of blizzards before I went to work. Now I wait until the plows come out. But I still go. It makes me sick to read of "men" who will not do for their elders. Unless they are missing limbs or have paralysis or something, they are soft overgrown children. Even if they bench 450 and run the Ironman.
Posted By: 462cid

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/18/19 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Lucky
If I could get my girlfriend to move I'd be out of the communist state of New York tomorrow.



Upstate is beautiful. But I understand, I think. Try harder.
Posted By: Top Gun

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/19/19 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by 462cid
Originally Posted by Top Gun
Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
The old bones start to ache with cold and even more so if it is humid and cold. Then there is the snow and ice > walking is harder and falls usually result in broken bones.


yep, never mind too old to clear your driveway or roof. My ex in-laws are both retired, have a decent size driveway yet with them having 2 daughters, neither husband will go over and clear the driveway for them. I used to when I was married to his daughter, I even brought my youngest over to help because one of the last snowfalls we got was very wet and heavy. It's only a matter of time before they move south because all the grand kids are getting older HS/College age so they rarely see them anymore.


Disgusting. I am sorry for those folks that used to be your in-laws. I hope they at least kick in money to have the drive cleared. If they do nothing, then those women did not marry men. Whatever they married they are not men. Before I had my stroke I'd drive my RWD high hp manual transmission car to my parents at 4am, park in a snowbank, and shovel them out of blizzards before I went to work. Now I wait until the plows come out. But I still go. It makes me sick to read of "men" who will not do for their elders. Unless they are missing limbs or have paralysis or something, they are soft overgrown children. Even if they bench 450 and run the Ironman.


it kills me too, her husband is a nice guy, but his parents already are gone to Fl for the cold months so it's not like he has them to worry about. What kills me is she's asked me to do it before, I told her she has a new husband to do that. Never mind our 17 year old son who she baby's so freaking bad.


Posted By: 462cid

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/19/19 08:21 PM

Yeah, good call, you can't do that for her.
Posted By: vonBaur

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/20/19 12:34 AM

I move every day. From the bedroom to the living room, to the computer room (AKA my "flying" room) and back. In the summer I move outside to the pool or to the shed for my V-twins. The one with four wheels is for mowing the grass and the one with two is for fun.

Yep, I'm moving all the time.
Posted By: Haggart

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/20/19 03:25 AM

New Mexico would need to have tall trees and areas of lush plant growth where we could go for walks under the shade of these trees and the vines, etc . That is how it currently is in our neighborhood and i don't think we could replace that with cactus
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/20/19 03:37 AM

I have friends that are talking very seriously about retiring down in Belize. They love it there. He is a dentist and his wife owns some kind of renewable energy design company. I guess if you have money, they would love to see you down there.

https://internationalliving.com/countries/belize/retire/

I would just be concerned about political instability in the area.
Posted By: Haggart

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/21/19 03:03 AM

A middle class American family would do well in Belize and if i remember correctly Belize was at one time a British colony ?
Posted By: CyBerkut

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/21/19 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Haggart
A middle class American family would do well in Belize and if i remember correctly Belize was at one time a British colony ?


Ayup, it was British. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/bh.html

Just reading the intro section from that, Belize doesn't look as appealing as it used to.
Posted By: Top Gun

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/22/19 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by CyBerkut
Originally Posted by Haggart
A middle class American family would do well in Belize and if i remember correctly Belize was at one time a British colony ?


Ayup, it was British. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/bh.html

Just reading the intro section from that, Belize doesn't look as appealing as it used to.


We went there on a cruise, our excursion was canceled so the kids stayed on the boat while the adults went on shore to shop. When we got to the little area on the water they had the shops, they had armed guards outside the fence area... Made me very glad our excursion was canceled
Posted By: rwatson

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/22/19 04:13 PM

I moved from Connecticut to a small town of New Concord Ohio..Winters are tolerable and being a small town it's really laid back..Don't drive but everything is within walking distance and if it isn't available here there's always Amazon..They roll up the sidewalks around 6 and the biggest draw is an ice cream place down the hill Just a nice quiet town and not like CT here everyone says hello when they pass..And like vonBaur I move a lot from the deck,,living room computer and just enjoy the no hassle living..For excitemenyt I take my pup around town for a walk..
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/22/19 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by rwatson
I moved from Connecticut to a small town of New Concord Ohio..Winters are tolerable and being a small town it's really laid back..Don't drive but everything is within walking distance and if it isn't available here there's always Amazon..They roll up the sidewalks around 6 and the biggest draw is an ice cream place down the hill Just a nice quiet town and not like CT here everyone says hello when they pass..And like vonBaur I move a lot from the deck,,living room computer and just enjoy the no hassle living..For excitemenyt I take my pup around town for a walk..



Sounds like an idyllic retired life!! I think you would die if you lived in Miami. biggrin
Posted By: rwatson

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/22/19 05:27 PM

For sure PM I've been there a few times,,Definitely not my style ,Actually no big cities are I've lived on a farm in upstate N.Y.,,,The Boondocks in R.I.and CT.,,Here it's a small town with Muskingum College and on weekends the kids dissapear and it's quiet,,Guess the only attraction is john Glen's house is down the street,,It's a small museum now a bunch of his pilot and astronaut stuff ,,
http://johnglennhome.org/
I worked hard all my life and just want to relax and enjoy a simple life and I'm doing just that books and flying sims,,plus war gaming
Posted By: Major Dragon

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/22/19 06:17 PM

I retired in October and moved to Paris in late March. I kept my house in Louisiana.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/22/19 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Major Dragon
I retired in October and moved to Paris in late March. I kept my house in Louisiana.



Oh wow. Now that's a big change! I hope it's worked out well for you so far.
Posted By: Major Dragon

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/23/19 12:00 AM

Notre-Dame is near by. Fortunately we went inside before the fire. And we’ve avoided the yellow vests so far.
Posted By: Dart

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/23/19 02:56 AM

To all my Yankee friends...Alabama is every bad thing you heard about and worse, with nothing but gun toting rednecks, a scarcity of indoor plumbing, poor dental hygiene, etc.

You should definitely retire to anywhere but here.
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/23/19 03:48 AM

If I ever decided to move, I think I would like to try the Reno, Nevada area. I think that climate would probably help with my aches and pains.
Posted By: Zamzow

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/23/19 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by LB4LB
If I ever decided to move, I think I would like to try the Reno, Nevada area. I think that climate would probably help with my aches and pains.


If it's cold you're looking to avoid then Reno is definitely not the place to go.
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/24/19 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Dart
To all my Yankee friends...Alabama is every bad thing you heard about and worse, with nothing but gun toting rednecks, a scarcity of indoor plumbing, poor dental hygiene, etc.

You should definitely retire to anywhere but here.

rofl


Wheels
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/24/19 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Dart
To all my Yankee friends...Alabama is every bad thing you heard about and worse, with nothing but gun toting rednecks, a scarcity of indoor plumbing, poor dental hygiene, etc.

You should definitely retire to anywhere but here.



South Carolina is worse, look elsewhere. Florida maybe.... wink
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/24/19 10:37 AM

I wouldn't mind moving to Alabama or South Carolina after i retire. smile
Posted By: Dart

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 04/30/19 02:44 AM

I dunno...Miami is a city where everyone claims to be from somewhere else....but The South.
Posted By: Turbo

Re: Where retirees are going to and fleeing from - 05/02/19 04:43 PM

LOL at your signature, LB4LB
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