Superman Vs. Batman : Dawn of Justice trailer 2

Once again a trailer spoils the best moments and twists.

A few of the things in there really bother me. This has fallen now to my Meh! watching list.

Hmm as I sat there watching this I was trying to figure out what the outcome could be for this major impasse between to heroes and couldn't think of how it could end until they revealed the superhuman monster thing. I'm assuming they are forced to take up arms together instead of against each other to battle this thing. So that answers that I guess. Could be interesting.

I don't know his name but I cannot stand that actor who plays the crazy guy there with the short red hair. I've not seen any movies with him but every time I see him in a commercial or interview I just can't stand him. Maybe he's a nice guy I don't know but he always comes off as a major prick and I just can't even stand to look at him.

Jesse Eisenberg? I've always gotten a good impression of him from interviews. Zombieland is regular viewing here. He was good as Zuckerberg in The Social Network. Now You See Me was kind of overlooked, but very interesting movie that's getting a sequel. Those are the only movies I know him from though.
I do think he's an odd choice to play Lex, but we'll just have to see what Zack Snyder has in mind. He hasn't disappointed me yet, other than Sucker Punch feeling "forced" (but still good).

I agree they gave away too much in that trailer. The Clark and Bruce butting heads thing was to be expected, but the twist and 2 appearances should've been reserved for the movie.
One thing I like about the Star Wars hype, which is a little much these days, is that as far as the movie itself, we still don't know a whole lot. There's a lot to be discovered at the theater.

DC and WB have so much riding on this film it's not even funny. I'm sure Snyder is sweating bullets.

I keep replaying that trailer in 1080p and it just looks more like 640x480 SD.

The first trailer didn't do it for me.

The second trailer didn't do it for me.

Is third time the charm for me?

NOPE!

(I didn't care for Man Of Steel either!)

"Man of Steel" was pretty good IMHO but it was nothing earth-shattering (no pun intended).

"The Squid and the Whale" and "Adventureland" were very good movies.

This was on my watch list because of the mysterious Batman/Superman conflict. Didn't know how it will end. Is it in-line with Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns, or something more dark and gruesome?

But the cheesy shot of the three of them standing together against Doomsday really put me off. (People have been speculating about Doomsday being the enemy so when I saw Zod's corpse I already knew where it was going). The conflict between Batman and Superman was just a complicated waltz for an uber alliance.

Changed my mind to: Not watching.

This is going to be a decent failure. It will take a miracle for this to save DC and WB. After this, the only best option for them is to continue making animations. As far as I know, DC still leads Marvel in animated features. In fact with all the animated movies they've put out, the universe in DC animated is more well established than Marvel. The only problem is that their animated features were not strategically made. Most of them are stand-alone features like "Justice League: Gods and Monsters".

IMO
Something forced them to make the revelation. Probably, the numbers weren't promising. Most likely their market research warned them that interest in the movie is not good. Remember the Nolan Batman movies where the trailers revealed absolutely nothing? That's cause they're confident they'll get the audience. Same with Star Wars and Star Trek not revealing important plot points because the numbers are good. They don't have to do it.

It still looks too dark, and I have seen a treatment where they brightened up Man of Steel. I am leaning toward the Frank Miller Batman, he even appears to have some sort of gun which might be for a grappling device or projectiles like the comic and it's possible they are leaning toward some of the elements in that story. I'm disappointed they revealed Doomsday but that may be a ruse we may see something even better in the theater.

Why is S fighting B, anyway?

Supes fights for Justice, Batman deals out Vigilante style Justice. Naturally Supes doesn't really agree with these methods and seeks him out. Batman thinks he's a dangerous Alien and rightly so.. Lex sees an opportunity to take them both out puts on a big frame-up sure to result in a confrontation. Disagreement ensues, The Bats is a lot tougher than he looks and smart, he has a few surprises but wait there's a big bad monster chewing up the city! we have to work together or millions will perish! ..who's the hot chick !!? umm?

I dunno, does that about sum it up for you? You owe me $10 (you can make your own popcorn)

Thank you KRT_Bong.

Here's the $10 I owe you.

Arrow and Flash seem to be doing well, I really enjoy them.

I got hooked on Arrow big time, although they lightened up the mood a little too much this season. The flashback story continues to be excellent. Flash is really good too. Leading up nicely to Legends next month.
Also gave Agents of Shield another chance and I'm pleased due to the ongoing story arcs. Not quite as good as the DC shows, but good. I wish CW was in HD on DirecTV, it nice on Netflix.


Man of Steel was probably the best Superman video offering ever IMO. The new one should be very good too. It's hard to complain about a comic book character story being predictable, that's just part of it and true to the nature of the comics too.

Oooh and a collectors note at that

If Jessie Eisenberg comes off as a prick, then it can only help him as Lex Luthor. I'm no Superman expert but I seem to recall Lex being a super prick!

BTW, I love this trailer and I have a serious woody for Wonder Woman's appearance in the last scene.

The last time I watched a DC superhero TV series was probably in the 90s. There's this Flash TV series back then IIRC. Still remember the intro scene where he spins a billiards ball.

Not a fan of smallville or heroes etc. so that was the last superhero series I really watched.

Will check out Arrow and Flash.

Man of Steel really rubbed me the wrong way and I still watch it from time to time because the art is good and the costume design is good. However, every time I watch it, I discover something new that annoys me. It's like reading Hamlet for the first few times but instead of discovering something intriguing, it's the opposite.

For example I recently watched a few clips of the city battle. Then I discovered something wrong. This superman spent ZERO minutes saving people. The only thing I can recall is him saving Lois. In superman returns and others he would be flying all over the place helping people out preventing casualties.

Enough of that. Truth be told a small part of me is wishing Superman Vs Batman isn't what I'm expecting it to be and will turn out good.

I loved that show back in 1990! Too bad it was only 1 season.

FYI: John Wesley Shipp (Flash in the prev show) plays the father of the Flash in this show.
Amanda Pays, who was the Star Labs scientist in the old show has had a few cameos in the new show as an exec of a competing lab.
Mark Hamill reprised his role as the Trickster, years after being put away in kind of a Hannibal Lecter way.

For Man of Steel, he did try to save people when he could. The guy falling from the chopper while fighting those 2 Kryptonians.
Zod didn't give him much of a chance, although he should've tried to make him follow him out of town. Zod wanted to destroy the place though, so why would he? He wanted to kill the humans in particular, with Sups watching. Taking the fight elsewhere doesn't make sense from the stand point of the bad guys though, and would've come off as convenient and unrealistic IMO. Might as well be doing silly things like throwing plastic S's at the enemy. LOL



I think we'll find that's the jumping point to the new movie, from the writing decision stand point. That's what pisses off Batman and gets him to come get involved. If the fight had taken place in the middle of nowhere, he couldn't care less if aliens wanted to destroy each other as long as human lives weren't lost.

I was always more of a Marvel kid than a DC kid.....but "in the real world" would not Superman just find Batman using his X-ray vision and then either fry him with his heat vision or just drop kick him into outer space ?

It seems like an unfair fight to me

There's always the fly him up into orbit maneuver, or throw him if he's going to whip out kryptonite. Or heat vision lobotomy.

and BTW ...Wonder Woman looks HAWT !!

I LOVE the Family Guy episode that references that.

It's a minor inconvenience. LOL

Superman would kick batman's ass any day of the week
Batman has no real superpowers. he uses gadgets and a really cool car. LoL

Ya ..but thats "in the real world" this is a just a movie

Batman can take anyone with prep time. The problem with the movie is that it looks like they're going right into a fight with just some kind of armor. They haven't even discovered Kryptonite yet in the movies, they just talked about the Krypton atmosphere robbing powers in the alien ship. Maybe that's what Batman has figured out and Sups isn't ready for?

Ok just for fun.
Who is the most bad ass super hero of them all.
May be Iron man because he can get upgrades.LoL

From The Dark Knight Returns Pt 2. One of the best DC animated features. You see what has been said, as long as Batman can prepare, he can defeat anyone.




I recommend anyone who likes Batman or The Joker to watch the two parts.

Well, that looked like a #%&*$# movie.

Superman. He can pretty much do whatever he wants, inventing powers as he goes. LOL
Just needs sunlight.
Or Dr Strange, on the magic side I would guess.

The over the top, way too much information but hilarious analysis of Sups power:



The rematch:

Pre-crisis superman was exactly that He had powers like shape-shifting, reading mind etc. and a lot of others that IIRC are campy by today's standards.

If batman had a device for each situation like a "shark repellant" superman had a power for every situation.

Well, that was pre-crisis.

Back to Man of Steel, I just didn't agree with the way the director went through it. If the director had a different vision for superman then that's it, there's nothing more I could say. I mean, just for a few seconds you can show superman randomly helping a nobody on his way around which gives a message, "He's desperate to help everyone but his hands are full."

In superman returns this was effectively communicated by the director. Superman was flying through a street and shards of glass were falling. He couldn't stop, so he looked back and vaporized the shards before it could hit the people.

There is a trend. I'll explain but to anyone who liked Man of Steel please bear in mind that this is not intended to offend. Look at the first Spiderman movie, everything even up to the second one was not just about the hero but the people around him. Parker doesn't want anyone close to him getting hurt. Superman returns even puts it to the extreme, he went away to do something for himself abandoning humanity and gets chastised by Lois in a passive aggressive manner.

The Spiderman reboot was much more self-centered IIRC. The man of steel in a way also was. I believe this is the director's choice. There's a dialoge, "You don't owe them anything." or something by Martha. These films were directed to focus more on one's self.

In truth I was a bit sympathetic to Zod. When everything was gone he was left with nothing but himself. But he didn't live for himself so he lost his soul. This is something troubling also because in the Green Lantern movie there were people who felt sympathetic to Hammond.

Superman's last thoughts in that Doomsday comics was the people around him, he got killed saving the lives of people by going in not waiting for the gathering back up IIRC. I have a feeling that the movie will not even show a fraction of that motivation.

Enough of my essay.

The treatment of Zod is part of why that movie was so awesome. Misguided, horribly, but from his revolt on Krypton to his actions on Earth, he was trying to do the job he was genetically designed to do. He didn't lose it mentally until his last chance to do his job was removed by the destruction of the "baby factory".

That movie actually made Krypton *interesting* for the first time. Jor El had depth and was a real character worth exploring. There was life to be lost on the planet, a society whose time had come. They'd already shrunk back to just their own planet (supposedly) and were going extinct.

I agree this treatment is much less boyscout. He's still driven to help, but mainly in the big ways. I doubt we'll see him getting a cat out of a tree for some little girl who runs home to get smacked by her parent. Thanks Superman! Save the cat, but the kid still takes a beatin'. LOL