Wikipedia Nazis

Man, what is up with these people who think they've been endowed by a higher power to edit Wikipedia according to their standards?

Long story short: I like to keep the Wikipedia page on Rise of Flight up to date. Way back in the day, it used to be a pretty lousy article, so I've spent a good bit of time cleaning it up. This includes keeping the list of aircraft in the game up to date. Well, apparently that last part is a crime in Wikipedia land. Yesterday I loaded the page to see that about half of it was gone. At first I thought it was the work of someone with an axe to grind, but then I found out it's someone who's basically made it his mission to go around to all the video game pages on Wikipedia and delete anything that looks like a list. AKA, he's someone with no life and too much time on his hands.

So, essentially I'm going back and forth with him right now, trying to beat him at his own game. With any luck, I will exhaust him and make him give up (yeah, good luck with that).

u mean this guy?

https://www.facebook.com/eik.corell

Yep, that's him. I see his Wikipedia talk page has a lot of hate mail on it.

Doesnt wikipedia keep a change history. You should be able to flag his account have have his edit privileges revoked. (or does wikipedia not work that way any more?)

It does keep a change history, yes, so every time he makes a change I just go right back in and undo it. I dunno if you can still flag someone's account to have their privileges revoked.

Sorry to read that you are having those types of problems Luke. I hope you can get them sorted out.


Wheels

I hope so. The guy really is ridiculous - I looked at his edit history on Wikipedia, and I see he's gone back and edited the heck out of Wikipedia articles for video games made back in the 80s.

Sadly some people just get a charge out of trying to wreck someone else's work. Luckily you can just undo his edits but its still a pain to have to actually go back and do it.


Wheels

Report him. He's removing relevant information from articles under the excuse of "it makes them bloated".

Basically his actions can be considered censorship. Eliminating relevant and factual data from the articles
should not be allowed on the whim of a single individual's personal opinions of what is and isn't relevant.

I can give you many instances where I was looking for information on Wikipedia only to be frustrated that
there wasn't enough info on what I was looking, but I can't recall a single time where I was disappointed
to find "too much information", as long as it was factual and directly relevant to the article.

Wiki is a joke thanks to people like that.

Wikipedia may as well just drop the "anyone can edit" crap and just become more like a traditional encyclopedia. You're already at the whim of these "Wiki Nazis" with their own agendas, and ideas of what is, or isn't relevant or worthy of inclusion. Might as well run the whole thing out of an office building, with paid full time editors.

I understand the need for preventing vandalism and crap like that, but I've never understood the editors' desire to constantly REDUCE the amount of information that their site provides.

There are lots of instances where WP steps in and stops
editorial nonsense. Lots of disputed histories get locked
to keep rival versions overwriting each other every hour.
I would think they would be prepared to knock down this guy.

So basically this topic is titled incorrectly.

Exactly. The information he's cut out of these articles is stuff that is directly relevant to the game. Who wouldn't want to reference a Wiki entry to see what aircraft or maps are in a particular game? I'll never understand either this agenda about reducing the amount of relevant info available. And for that matter, there are lists galore all over Wikipedia. Why are lists on video game pages suddenly now seen as verboten? It makes zero sense.

As for reporting him, I'm going to wait and see what he does next. I don't feel the need to escalate anything yet.

From the video game article guidelines:


Just my two cents, but an exhaustive list of the game content would seem to be in contravention of this.

This is his Wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eik_Corell

Sometimes I just want a list of what weapons or vehicles or whatever are in a game before I buy it but there's nothing to be found.

Now I know why...

LOL....what a bellend. He's a 'Transhumanist', apparently. A devotee of 'Transfoolishness'. Trans-foolishness followers believe that one day, the Human race will transcend its normal limitations of foolishness and twatitude, to eventually achieve the exhalted and elevated status of "Hyper-Twats", and "Alpha-Fools" through the application of absolute nonsense and entirely fictitious twaddle.

The internet is full of "heid the baals", as we say. One called 'Kurfurst' might be familiar to old school IL2 players. There is History, and then there is Kurfstory, ("Kurfursts Story"). 'Kurfstory' is essentially a parallel universe in which nothing that actually happened in reality occurs, a dimension not of sight and sound, but of twisted mind. In this bizarre alternative reality, cogent, coherent arguments and factual truths are destroyed by a swirling maelstrom of Horsesh*t and entirely fabricated porkie pies, known as the "Kurf Horizon". Not a single true fact or reasonable point has ever been known to escape or survive its influence.

I just laugh at them. I've never bothered with wiki, and wouldn't know how to edit things even if I wanted to....which I definitely don't. Let em get on with it. Very sad, and they need to get out a bit more.

He is indeed a legend in his own mind, our Kurfurst is.

Yeah, he reminds me of those type of people who run homeowner's associations. He's gone off and told mommy (i.e., Wikipedia admins) he doesn't like me, but for now the article is how I want it to be.

Well, it seems he does follow the Wikipedia rules and you do not.

I do however wonder why they have these rules against item lists, since I consider item lists a good thing personally.

Yea, I've seen the same thing with other games and "item lists" on Wikipedia. Usually those kinds of things get the kind of depth they deserve (where each item on the list gets a page) at a title specific wiki site.

Guy seems like a prick. I'd report him.

Seems to be lumping in flight sims with FPS's. Not the same. It's fine to read about an FPS and it says something like "Has the usual assortment of weapons: pistol, shotgun, assault rifle, grenades, etc." The emphasis is going around killing things with whatever weapon. But with a serious flight sim the focus is much more on the aircraft modeling, the aircraft is more important so the aircraft type is more important, IMHO.

You might consider to user the SimHQ articles as secondary source - SimHQ is clearly a "reliable secondary source independent of the subject"

I must be a fan of yours!

Unless you stole my sig!

Personally, I use Wiki very frequently for aircraft data, mostly to update performance configs in sim aircraft (esp. FSX).

But what are specs if not a list?

Then you get lists of aircraft numbers, who bought them, sometimes crashes etc etc etc. They are not games, but where is the difference?

I already use this nickname for more than 10 years - at least you took the time to change the artistic presentation.
There are other plagiarists, that don't even care to take that step: WhoCares
Ah well, in the end it is for a good cause - so, who cares...
(Just kidding)
As long as you don't say that you use Wiki data for Sim configs - if you tried to argue flight models with Wiki data you would get toasted in the RoF forum
But you will always have the wrong data anyway, at least from someones perspective. Who cares...

My point exactly and something I wrote on the Talk page for the ROF article.

Personally, I'm about ready to just forget it all and let people like Eik Corell enjoy ruling their little fiefdoms. Apparently they draw great pleasure from such things.

Yup have to love Barbi's uber Nazi revisionist history.

He has been banned from editing Wiki articles on WW2.

I'd be most intrigued to know what exactly he changed on the WW2 article that could be considered revisionist.

Check out the Battle of Britain, Spitfire, Me109 articles.

Then there is the Banana board, where Barbi, and the one called Crumpp, tried their revisionism on the use of 100 octane fuel during the BoB.

. I miss working with British people. That term makes me lose it