Posted By: rootango
what current good joysticks have HAL sensors and good gimbals (or best bang per $ mod to create this) - 10/03/09 06:20 AM
hi folks,
i have bought 5 or 6 joysticks over the years, a cheapo, then CH, and then a series of saiteks), and all the saiteks in partic wear out fast and after 12 months have heaps of play around the 0 axis points, others start spiking. build is also a bit flimsy and i snapped the odd trigger in the heat of the moment
so whats the best solution for long term flightsimmers that want a quality stick with good gimbal (is there even any that do?), and use something similar to to non contact (and so non wearing) HAL sensors ?
there is this new thrustmaster 16000 with hall sensors, but the russian guy that opened one up show the rest of the components inside are very cheapo and flimsy, buttons etc on the stick itself look toyish and flimsy
the logitech 940 hotas kit seems to have a nice new stick with hall sensors (but it is force feedback ), but it is only sold as a combo kit and no standalone stick available
is there any other off the shelf stick that uses HAL sensors at the moment ? havnt seen any, but hope there is
a cougar perhaps ? i have looked at them over the years and the whole guts of these devices are pretty bad, you need to spend another 300$+ toget the thing working right, and even then there is a long list of modders and users for it that are still unhappy in the end and didnt think it was worth while. its not a road i'd like to take
CH models. afaik none of them use HAL sensors, and altho they are fairly strongly made and you can mod them to use HAL sensors i think the whole gimbal insides of it are plastic to, with the stick casing being plain plastic to and not anything particularly thrilling, it just doesnt seem worthwile going through the whole proces. with CH you either use it as is, which is reliable and good of the shelf, and leave the guts alone, or might as well buy something else from the start imo (multi button addon mods excepted)
i dont see many other choices on the market, is there ?
is there not some more professional grade joystick that some aircraft simulators might use ? is there any brands/options i have overlooked ?
i am not to bothered about force feedback etc, partic for sims like il2 where you might have long flights it is much easier to have light resistance and fine control on the stick.
i have bought 5 or 6 joysticks over the years, a cheapo, then CH, and then a series of saiteks), and all the saiteks in partic wear out fast and after 12 months have heaps of play around the 0 axis points, others start spiking. build is also a bit flimsy and i snapped the odd trigger in the heat of the moment
so whats the best solution for long term flightsimmers that want a quality stick with good gimbal (is there even any that do?), and use something similar to to non contact (and so non wearing) HAL sensors ?
there is this new thrustmaster 16000 with hall sensors, but the russian guy that opened one up show the rest of the components inside are very cheapo and flimsy, buttons etc on the stick itself look toyish and flimsy
the logitech 940 hotas kit seems to have a nice new stick with hall sensors (but it is force feedback ), but it is only sold as a combo kit and no standalone stick available
is there any other off the shelf stick that uses HAL sensors at the moment ? havnt seen any, but hope there is
a cougar perhaps ? i have looked at them over the years and the whole guts of these devices are pretty bad, you need to spend another 300$+ toget the thing working right, and even then there is a long list of modders and users for it that are still unhappy in the end and didnt think it was worth while. its not a road i'd like to take
CH models. afaik none of them use HAL sensors, and altho they are fairly strongly made and you can mod them to use HAL sensors i think the whole gimbal insides of it are plastic to, with the stick casing being plain plastic to and not anything particularly thrilling, it just doesnt seem worthwile going through the whole proces. with CH you either use it as is, which is reliable and good of the shelf, and leave the guts alone, or might as well buy something else from the start imo (multi button addon mods excepted)
i dont see many other choices on the market, is there ?
is there not some more professional grade joystick that some aircraft simulators might use ? is there any brands/options i have overlooked ?
i am not to bothered about force feedback etc, partic for sims like il2 where you might have long flights it is much easier to have light resistance and fine control on the stick.