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The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart

Posted By: Olham

The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 05/31/14 12:19 PM

This is the looong thread of the "DiD Campaign Revival" - Rules updated last on 3 May 2015.




















[Flanders map by from RAF_Louvert. Download link and division line by Robert_Wiggins.]

Full-size Map for download


BELGIAN CARREER

The Belgians are now in the campaign. Since there are no Belgian units, each flyer must find himself
a French unit near the North Sea coast, which used the desired aircraft the Belgians also used.
We must improvise. The Farman pushers will be represented by the FE.2b (Farman Experimental 2b).
The Hanriot can be "played" by the Sopwith Camel. Nieuports and Strutters are available.

RAF_Louvert and I will provide Belgian flyers with several standard and ace skins with Belgian markings.
These skins will be available in the "Donload Section" at COMBAT ACE, or as a JSGME-ready version
provided by Robert_Wiggins.

FRENCH TWO-SEATER TIME

There seem to be no French two-seater units available in June 1916, which is a real pity.
For this reason, the French pilots must absolve 3 hours of training flights.


CHANGING NATIONALITY or LEVEL

You can have only one pilot at one time.
You can only change the NATIONALITY or the LEVEL for each new pilot, after the demise of old one.


Campaign Start

The "DiD Campaign Revival" will start on June 7, 2014.
If you still have questions, pls ask - but make sure you have read the first page of this thread -
there might be further updates over time.

PILOT ENLISTMENT AND RECORDS PAGE

Just use this link, enlist and send your pilot's records here:

www.attrill.co.za/WOFFcampaign.htm


Flanders North or Flanders South

To help you determine if your pilot's area of operation is Flanders North or South,
I have made the above Flanders map after RABU's original OFF maps.


NAVAL RANKS

As a German Marineflieger (Naval pilot) you start with the rank of "Vizeflugmeister".
The British RNAS pilots start with the lowest available rank - there are fewer ranks only.


VICTORY VALUATION

Since we saw, that victories would sometimes be 5 or more in a single sortie in WOFF.
Not the flyers' fault, and therefor they can hardly do much about it, when such fights happen.
To come to more realistic-looking victory tallies, the counting of victories will be like this:

1 - 3 victories per sortie = 1
4 - 6 Victories per sortie = 2
more than 6 vic per sortie = 3

Each pilot will count his victories accordingly, and report the result then.


ADDITIONAL RULES - Use of time compression and auto-pilot
Both are allowed for B and C pilots. For A-pilots they are both forbidden.











Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 01:08 PM

I WILL TRY THAT. band
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 01:29 PM

Excellent Olham - look forward to the start.
Posted By: samba_liten

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 02:21 PM

Sound like fun!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 02:36 PM

Note: new pages have been added to post #1.
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 02:45 PM

Thank you Siggi for the original idea and of course to you Olham for keeping this dream alive. This encompasses what WOFF is all about. We can not go back in time, but we can do our best to experience the war in the air like WWI pilots did. Some fought for glory and victories, yet most I believe fought to survive, to be free and to go back to their families and friends.

This brings us close to that reality as anything can and that survival mindset is what's at the heart of this DiD campaign. I look forward to this Olham and I want to take a moment to thank you for your hard work and effort to bring this to fruition.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 03:00 PM

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OUTSTANDING!

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 03:08 PM

Thank you, Shiloh, but I am not doing this all on my own.
Siggi (where ever you may be now) built the original idea.
Shredward helped me with dividing the war months and zones into "hot", "medium" and "quiet" time zones.
RAF_Louvert will help with the Belgian carreer and medals.
And many others from our fine community come up with tips and ideas to complete the task.

In the end it will be a community product for us all to enjoy, I hope.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 03:56 PM

Regional activity/time chart added.
Posted By: Rover_27

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 04:02 PM

That is going to be huge! Count me in.
About two-seaters and fighters. If I get it correctly, each fighter career must start with a 5-hour two-seater run?
Do we keep "Transfers always approved" option On for this purpose?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 04:09 PM

Yes, "Always approved" should be on for the transfer.
I will work out more rules and advice for settings tomorrow, and I will point that out.
Thx for the reminder!

By the way: if anyone should prefer to get transfered to any unit without any own choice -
you can always do that, and let the sim select, where you will be sent.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 05:34 PM

reading Awsome Herr Ringmaster. Count me in ! thumbsup
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 05:45 PM

Ringmaster? Wagner's or Tolkien's ring?
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 06:07 PM

Absolutely terrific, Olham! Thank you, Shred and Lou for putting in the time and effort to bring back and enhance DID Campaign.

I generally fly with the DID mindset..so I might do well here..since I think I have had only an embarrassing two or three victories since WOFF was released :>)
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 06:55 PM

When do we start????
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 08:26 PM

I hope we can start on Saturday, 7 June in real life. That would mean we would start on 7 June 1916.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 09:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
I hope we can start on Saturday, 7 June in real life. That would mean we would start on 7 June 1916.


1916? How about 1914! biggrin
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 09:37 PM

Nope. June 1916 is perfect.
The air war only just begins to become a lethal business, and we will witness all important stages.
In the beginning, the Germans only have Fokker Eindecker scouts, but their time is over, and the
Entente has the better fighters. But soon, in August, the Germans may equal the balance with the
Halberstadt; and then in September they will gain superiority with the Albatros D.II for a while.
Starting in June 1916 will bring us most intetesting ups and downs for both sides IMHO.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 09:41 PM

Summer is coming, this will be "mostly away from PC time" - not talking about the World Cup between June 12 and July 14 ! Not a time for me to pick up new flying duties, will catch up in September and read your high deeds in the meantime smile
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 05/31/14 09:47 PM

No problem, Corsaire.
I guess many will still fall early - flying WOFF is just a tough business.
It may be easily possible to catch up with the earlier flyers.
Posted By: JFM

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 12:12 AM

It's always summer for me, and I don't care about soccer, so I'm in! Now to decide how I want to approach this.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 12:36 AM

Great - welcome, Jim!
I am still thinking myself, how to approach it. One idea was to follow the stations
in Ernst Udet's life - that would allow for a quiet start down in Alsace, and then
I'd work my way up over Jasta 15 to Jasta 37.
Don't like the Jasta 4 spiral-band paintjob though.
There are several Jastas which use the Albatros over a long time, which I'd also
like to join, like Jasta 12, 19 or 23b.
For flying only from one field most of the time, Jasta 30 (Phalempin) is good, or
the Marine-Feldjagdstaffeln. Oh, the rich choice! ...
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 10:39 AM

Olham - Having looked at the rules can you please clear up a question?

Does the hours required on two-seaters before being allowed to transfer too scout units include time spent on two-seater trainers?

Haveing been involved in the OFF DiD campaign I felt that having to do time on front-line two-seaters put you in the mind set to fly more conservatively.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 11:22 AM

Yes, training time would count.
Those who feel unsure on 2-seaters, can fly all 5 hours as training, if you like.


QUESTION ABOUT START TIME

Since there will be summer holidays and the Football World Championship -
how many of you would like to see the "DiD Campaign" to start later - maybe in late July or August?
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 11:32 AM

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I propose we start it on 3 August 2014, 100 years to the day of opening hostilities on the Western Front. Further, I propose we set the in-sim start date for 3 August 1915, 1 year to the day of those same opening hostilities. Apropos ... no?

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 12:39 PM

Thanks for your thoughts, Lou.
On one hand, I find it an intriguing idea, to fly the early air war.
OTOH there are no French 2-seater units available for that time, and I would like
to have the French in the campaign (hopefully some will fly French side).

Let's see what others think about the start date.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 01:02 PM

I'd like to join up.
I didn't fly Siggi's DID and have some basic questions about campaign frequency and bad weather. I'll keep an eye on the updated first post with the rules.

Thanks Olham & Siggi
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 01:19 PM

Salut


havn't looked into the French side of things, but I'm flying a 2 seater (Hun) on the Marne June 1915 and there are 2 French squads in the area, all with morans. My last flight I saw 3 over our lines. August 1915 would be fine with me as a 2 seater start date but the chances of actuall combat are low and flight times very high. I'm flying this early to do some recce flying of the area as Lou suggested in another post, to get ready for the DID campaign.
Posted By: Rover_27

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 01:35 PM

August 1915 sounds great!
Yes, what about the bad weather days? Sometimes too many in one row
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 02:03 PM

When your flights are cancelled due to bad weather, then they are, and there will be no campaign flying those days.
You could still fly WOFF with other pilots then, just for yourself.

I will check about the French Morane units in summer 1915.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 03:00 PM

Is it "ok" to set mission frequency to a lower setting?
Three flights a day can be a bit much if they are long flights
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 03:07 PM

You can fly as often or as little as you want.
You can make just one flight, and then stop for that day.
Next time you want to fly you advance time to the actual real life date, and fly.

It won't be unfair to fly less or more than others, as the listed flight hours
of each pilot will put things into proportion.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 03:54 PM

Personally, I would avoid 1915 for the reasons stated by others ... not enough French squadrons in action. I am currently flying a German career in the fall of 1915 in Verdun and have flown 30 missions without seeing even one enemy plane. There are essentially no French fighters, and hardly any two-seaters prior to 1916 so you have the sky to yourself.

Do we necessarily need to have the WOFF dates and real-life dates match? Seems it might be easier to let people just fly at any time (like most people already do in WOFF), then there is no worries about missing days or weather cancellations. No big deal either way.
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 06:29 PM

Is there a list of the scoring developed yet? So that you can decide if you want a busy sector, which I assume, would be offset by other scoring variables? Or a quiet sector, etc.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 07:11 PM

Scout, like in the original DiD Campaign, I would like to see that we generate
a feeling of flying together in our "offline campaign" - that feeling of togetherness
can only be created that way.

cptroyce, yes, flying hot/busy sectors will score higher.
Then there will be three levels for the use of aids (one without any aids), which will
also count differently. I still have to think of a most fair balance of points.
I know, it cannot be totally fair - too many variables - but as fair as I can get it.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 10:32 PM

popcorn One question: Will the pilots be required to land at their home base or will any airfield do? I agree with flying together in the campaign. It would impart a feeling of sharing a common experience. However, I would add that whatever the unit. Fly the missions assigned i.e., If the assigned unit flew 3 time a day, fly 3 times a day. biggrin
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 10:37 PM

That would be great, Carrick, but we must not forget that many fliers have their jobs,
their families and godknowswhat else to do. I guess many cannot even fly 1 mission every day -
not to speak of 3 per day. I want to keep that open for everyone, otherwise it can cause
too much social stress.
Posted By: nbryant

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/01/14 11:34 PM

This is going to be a great addition to an already life consuming experience. Although I would not mind beginning in '15 I agree that the frequency of encounters leaves something to be desired so I can agree with '16. ALso, like you explained Olham, one flight a day would be what most of us could fit in, three would be a bit much. Another question Olham. Will you provide a definition of "aids"? As an example, would use of auto-pilot at anytime in the flight lessen the possible overall flight rating? Or time acceleration?

One last thing for now...... and it really isn't related directly to this, but.... it sure would be nice to have blank aircraft templates to allow us to easily create our own schemes for this experience. I know you can work the aircraft provided but it's not as easy or as fast as having an available template that only has a few layers (color level, shading level and weathering level as examples). Just wishing out loud here! biggrin
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/02/14 12:08 AM

nbryant, you won't even have to fly every day - you'd just advance time next time you can fly.

Yes, there will be three defined ways of using aids (or not).
This is all about collecting real flight hours rather than piling victories, and so auto-pilot or
time-acceleration will not be allowed in any of the three.
If you must answer the phone or whatever, you may press "Pause".

The WOFF skins don't have such layers. They are 1-layer DDS files, which you can convert into BMP files to work on.
You can work them out by copying and pasting parts, and then you can vary the colours and shades and weathering etc.
I'd recommend to use the default squadron skins and just add your own designs to them.
Search the web for IRFANVIEW (free program) for watching and converting the files into BMP;
and also for the free "DXTBmp" for reconverting them into DDS-1 files.

Posted By: nbryant

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/02/14 12:25 AM

Thanks Olham.

As for the templates, I know. I use Photoshop but am very anal about recreating each aircraft with as much detail as I can. I try to find each one that has the least amount of individuality already (just as close to a base model as possible) and use it as my starting point. I then convert it to greyscale, darken it some, remove the white and create my overlay for the shadows and shading. Can be done, takes some time so I was hoping to cheat by having a base already done for each craft. Anyway, this is not the thread for this discussion.

Looking forward to getting this DiD campaign started!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/02/14 01:28 PM

New page added to rules in post #1.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/02/14 01:33 PM

OT.

Originally Posted By: JFM
It's always summer for me, and I don't care about soccer, so I'm in! Now to decide how I want to approach this.


I'm glad it's not always summer here, as I would never find time for sitting behind a PC ! smile2
As for soccer it is quite understandable as in the US it is mostly looked upon as a game for girls. I must confess myself I much prefer rugby which is a sport for real men. yep
I rarely watch soccer (except for the Champions League final rounds) and once every four years the World Cup.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/02/14 03:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Scout, like in the original DiD Campaign, I would like to see that we generate
a feeling of flying together in our "offline campaign" - that feeling of togetherness
can only be created that way.


Agreed, keeping together has it's benefits. I think it also might give people (like me) an extra encouragement to fly as often as possible because when a day is gone, it's gone. If people don't fly regularly then they will fall behind in the 'hours' race, so I am seeing the beauty of your system.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/02/14 03:50 PM

And: most of us will hardly have the time to fly more than one sortie per day -
I guess many won't even be able to do that. It may end with 3 - 6 sorties per week.

To equal the valuation in a fair way, I have thought about an additional point in the chart:
the valuation points will get divided by the flight time or by the number of sorties -
that way we will receive a factor, which should tell us, where everyone stands - no matter
how much or how little he has been flying.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/02/14 03:53 PM

The "Workshop" settings for Reality Levels A, B and C were added in post #1.
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/02/14 05:13 PM

Olham, how is it that you set main guns "less accurate" for A, B and C? I have always let them in "Normal", curious as to what are the reasons behind and..the consequences....

On a sidenote, how are you going to be sure that people choosing A (or B...) are not using "extra" aids in some situations?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/02/14 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By: ArisFuser
Olham, how is it that you set main guns "less accurate" for A, B and C?

I have tried several settings, and found that the guns are still lethal enough with "less accurate".
Otherwise I find it too easy to pile kills.

Originally Posted By: ArisFuser
On a sidenote, how are you going to be sure that people choosing A (or B...)
are not using "extra" aids in some situations?

In an "offline-campaign" we cannot be sure about anything - we can only try and trust each other.
Of course, unbelieveable results would be noticed by very experienced flyers.
And he who cheats will not have the best reward for it all - to know that he truely earned it.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/02/14 09:25 PM

First idea for the "Valuation Chart" added in post #1. I hope it is understandable,
and that you guys come up with ideas or criticisms.
Posted By: nbryant

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 01:20 AM

How about logging the last date flown/reported on the valuation chart Olham or would that be to difficult. I don't mind the levels proposed. Personally I will fly with Level A except for auto mixture on making me Level B but I'm good with that.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 04:01 AM

Hi Olham: Maybe I misread it, but for the endurance calculation if I divide sorties by hours I get different numbers than your example. eg. 60 sorties in 60 hours would be endurance of 1, not 4 or 3? Just something to double check. All else looks really great.
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 05:26 AM

Hm, I'm currently somewhere between B and C. Will see if I can get up to 'B' by show time. My only real worry is seeing the damn enemy. I was flying around with all aids off and got bounced by 6 &$#*( Sopwith Pups. Needless to say that career ended quickly.

Looks very good Olham!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 10:11 AM

nbryant, I hope that we will have some action "Reports from the Front" with the campaign,
where the flyers will report of their last missions in short notes. These reports could
show the dates for each mission, and we would also read, how others are doing.
For the chart, I'll think about your proposal.

Scout, I'll check that again - I changed it several times, to find a calculation that raises
the points for ENDURANCE for fliers with fewer sorties, but the same or more hours.
I may have forgotten to change the text.

CatKnight, the DiD Campaign will all be about careful, rather defensive flying; about survival.
Not seeing enemies who DON'T attack you, will also mean less chance that you spot and attack them;
so less risk. Of course, our necks will develop some good muscles from all the six-checking.
Imagine you were there, in the real 1916 or 1917 air combat - it would all be a huge risk to fly at all.
I'd like to see, how we would realise that.

My best advice: forget about victories - fly as if you could be really killed.
Shoot when it is absolutely safe to attack. Then you MAY live another day.
Some may find a flying like that boring - they may learn that it isn't.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 11:26 AM

Scout, thanks for the correction - the ENDURANCE calculation is different than I had written -
it is now corrected; see post #1.

If anyone wonders, why the ENDURANCE is higher for a pilot with less victories and sorties:
the ENDURANCE is a value that grows higher, when you have to fly many long-time missions
(which means mostly: to fly deep into enemy terrain).
Here, the Entente pilots, and maybe also the German two-seater pilots, may score better -
and they deserve some better points for their deeds, which couldn't be generated only
with victories or flight hours.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 12:12 PM

" My best advice: forget about victories - fly as if you could be really killed.
Shoot when it is absolutely safe to attack. "

Unfortunately it can sometimes happen you get bounced by planes you cannot run away from...
Or pick up an Entente unit in Alsace and never cross the lines ! It will be somewhat boring, but you can admire the beautiful landscape ! winkngrin
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 12:45 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Unfortunately it can sometimes happen you get bounced by planes you cannot run away from...

That sort of sh*t happened at lot - that's how MvR grew his kill tally.

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Or pick up an Entente unit in Alsace and never cross the lines !
It will be somewhat boring, but you can admire the beautiful landscape ! winkngrin


That is why I expanded the DiD Campaign over the whole Western Front.
WOFF beautifully gives us busy and quieter areas (still fighters there!), and everyone should
simply think about it carefully: what suits me best?

I'd like to see everyone just happy with what he finds - not too much points-comparing or victory-envy -
let's just try to enjoy what we find. The real life flyers had even far less choice.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 01:10 PM

I agree with you the real pilots had no choice. Wouldn't it be fun to use the random selection ? Like in real life, try to do the best with what you've been given (this is probably how I will do it when I enter this campaign smile2)
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 01:21 PM

Believe it or not, I have thought about that same thought.
But then it might force some to fly under harder conditions than they can handle

It is of course absolutely free for everyone to use the "Random enlistment".
Might be the choice for all "adventureous flyers" - just go where they send you.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 01:41 PM

I think like you that it shouldn't be a fixed rule, but for those who like to stick to reality, it is a good option. It's like Forrest Gump's box of chocolates ! smile2
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 06:28 PM

My engineer brain tells me that another way to look at the endurance figure is 'average points per sortie'. If I am seeing the calculation correctly, an endurance figure of 4 simply means that pilot has accumulated, on average, 4 points per flight so far.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 07:11 PM

Aerhhm ... - I was never good at mathematics, but I hope I have found a useable way
to visualise a pilot's achievements with long, line-crossing flights here.
You can see it as "average points per flight", or as a grade the pilot has achieved.
Posted By: nbryant

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/03/14 11:58 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
I agree with you the real pilots had no choice. Wouldn't it be fun to use the random selection ? Like in real life, try to do the best with what you've been given (this is probably how I will do it when I enter this campaign smile2)


I like this. I mean, we can always put in for a transfer later. Or maybe request a transfer but let the game also dictate where you end up then also!
Posted By: Mr_Dirt

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 12:15 AM

Nice job putting this together Olham and the rest. It looks like something to get into, but I will have ti see. I am leaving for vacation on your start date, which is also my wedding anniversary. If I decide to do this I will play catch up like I enlisted late. Thanks for all your hard work I am sure it will be great fun for all involved.
Thanks and Happy Hunting in the skies over Flanders
John
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 04:04 AM

The only problem with random selection and a potential 8/1915 start date is a lot of fighter pilots are going to end up in two seaters following training. For example, I just started an 8/15 campaign to practice for this and specifically asked for Bristol Scouts. The game asked if I'd accept a squad with 'either Bristols or Moranes.' It wasn't even a question of rank: EVERYONE has Moranes. frown
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 09:31 AM

Yep, I am afraid that transfers decided by the sim, might let us end up in 2-seater units,
when we wanted to join a fighter unit.

That's why I thought, everyone should do it, if he likes it that way - but not as a rule.

As for the year: it will be 1916. There just wasn't enough happening yet in 1915,
and after a while most flyers would get bored and fly less and less.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 09:35 AM

From what I understand of the rules, you have to start in a two seater squadron anyway as you need to log 5 flight hours before transfering to a fighter unit ?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 09:45 AM

Yes, Corsaire.
After the 5 hours on the 2-seater, you can then transfer to a unit you want to join.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 12:14 PM

PLEASE VOTE

I have made a poll to vote about several questions for the "DiD Campaign Revival".
Please vote, everybody - you will find the poll here:

http://combatace.com/topic/82941-did-campaign-revival-some-questions-please-vote/#entry666493
Posted By: Rover_27

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 05:16 PM

Says I'm not allowed to vote there. Maybe because I've just registered and have no posts?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 05:23 PM

Yes, I guess your registration needs to be confirmed. Thank you anyway, Rover.
Posted By: LowDrag

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 08:10 PM

Olham, once again on the dots-topic. I use them, as said before, and don´t use much aids apart of them and the inflight map. I feel more living in the sim now, with partly better situational awareness but without use of the TAC, wich is has always been an immersion killer for me. For me the dots do enhance the realism, because with a trained fighter eye you are able to see the E/A much earlier than they are easily visible on a computer screen (at least without zooming in too much...), and the dots level this a little bit.

I can absolutely live to be set to B-realism scale using them, though. I simply think limiting the dots-range to 4000 meters is not neccessary. For sure one will overlook some aircraft behind this range, those birds were small, camouflaged mostly, it happened in RL even at very short ranges, that nobody was aware of the others presence. But the birds are not invisible behind 4000 meters.
I would therefore appreciate to be able to stretch that range a little bit, lets say to 6-7000 meters. How much of this range the player uses should be to his own liking. I do even switch the mode off completely most of the time, and switch it on occasionaly to have a glance. By switching dots on and off one can simulate better or poorer eyesight/conditions/awareness.

My thoughts only.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 08:16 PM

Kaische : "For me the dots do enhance the realism, because with a trained fighter eye you are able to see the E/A much earlier than they are easily visible on a computer screen (at least without zooming in too much...), and the dots level this a little bit. "

Agree with you on this point, but 6 - 7 km seems a long distance (mine are set at 3 km to keep some feeling of surprise) I would say 4 km is a good compromise because if you see them too much ahead you have a lot of time to react and you loose some interest imho.

I was always also interrogative with the "zoom" function, I don't think the guys were flying with variable magnification binoculars. (in my own campaigns I fly with a fixed view level, one click before total zoom out)
Which means the "dots" could be more realistic than the "zoom". (Except that it is a bad thing that they show through your plane) So I guess it's all compromise between game and reality !

My 2 cents, will only start in September anyway ! smile2
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 08:54 PM

Quote:
Agree with you on this point, but 6 - 7 km seems a long distance (mine are set at 3 km to keep some feeling of surprise) I would say 4 km is a good compromise because if you see them too much ahead you have a lot of time to react and you loose some interest imho.


+1.

4-5 kms seems a good conpromise to me. I enjoy flying with that setting because I can still be bounced and surprised if not aware but allows me to detect incoming threats with some anticipation when I have been scanning the skies sproperly.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 09:18 PM

I'm not even sure that the dot scale works correctly anyway. Has anyone verified this? My dots are set at 4000, but I don't think I am seeing aircrsft at 2.5 miles away. Or is 4000 feet? That would seem more likely. Anyway, my multiplyer is set at 1, but my wingmen always react way before I can see anything, dot or otherwise. Does anyone know what the "visibility" range of the A.I. is?

If you wanted to be really realistic, you could do what I always want to do but always forget: Have no dots for the first 15 missions or so, 1 mile dots for the next 15 and then 3 mile dots for all missions after to simulate your development as a pilot.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 09:50 PM

Salut

I like the dots at 4000 (m/ft?)

to give an example why.... near my village is a RC airclub that puts on a big airshow every sommer. The distance from my house is about 2km. Now there are some very nice ww1 RC planes on the larger size that fly formations, fight etc... I can hear them flying so I go for a walk to see them. And beleave me its quite easy to a trained simmers eyes to look at the ww1 aircraft and know which one it is, which is quite something given the distance and the scale of the models themselves (and my age plus glasses etc)

point is the sim itself renders very poor images of aircraft even when closer, and if wasn't for dots on you'd never see them. Most pilots back then were very young and had good eye sight, plus anything that moves is spotted easier. I'll be flying with Track Ir on, with dots, which still means I have look around to find the dots..or not depending where they caome from.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 10:02 PM

So far, a majority selected a campaign start for June 7 and 8.
There won't be much time left to discuss and change the rules.
I wanted to create an uncomplicated DiD Campaign, for which we don't have to read through
and remember tons of sheets with rules.
I think with three reality-levels we all have the same chances to select A, B or C;
and while A is gaining higher numbers of points, an A-LEVEL carreer could be over very quickly.
It will be damn hard to survive under LEVEL A conditions - maybe a C-LEVEL flyer will need a
longer time and more sorties to get to the same amount of points - but he may live much longer
and so have the better chances to get there.

And: after each demise of a pilot, you may enlist the next fellow in a different level.
The war will still be long...

You see, it might be like the old book of books says:
The first will be the last, and the last will be the first.

Let's not make it more complicated - let's just try, how far we can get...
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/04/14 10:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
I'm not even sure that the dot scale works correctly anyway. Has anyone verified this? My dots are set at 4000, but I don't think I am seeing aircrsft at 2.5 miles away. Or is 4000 feet? That would seem more likely. Anyway, my multiplyer is set at 1, but my wingmen always react way before I can see anything, dot or otherwise. Does anyone know what the "visibility" range of the A.I. is?


The multiplier imho only interacts with the distance for various labels. The distance for dots is fixed (as you decide it) and it is well written in the workshop all distances are meters. It's easy to verify, when the dots appear you turn on activity labels and you have the distance.

Also agree with Olham that things should not become over complicated. And anyway in the end it's up to each pilot to respect them because nobody will be there to control what you're doing...
Posted By: nbryant

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 12:14 AM

Two quick things Olham.

Can you provide a quick outline of how to upload a game file to you; where is it located and which file. I did it sometime ago on Siggi's Did but will be damned if I can remember how.

Second. Does anyone have a quick list of recce/bomber squadrons available on 6/6/16? A quick in game look and I didn't come across any French squadrons (the closest one was dated 10/9/16). And if you enlist with Britain I don't think you can transfer to a French unit, right?
Posted By: nbryant

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 12:27 AM

My own quick, but I'm sure incomplete and possibly wrong, entente list of units active prior to the proposed start date:

France: ?
Britain: RFC-4/5/6/7/9/10/12/13/15/18/21/25 RNAS-2/5
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 01:10 AM

I'm guessing that it might have been possible for a WW2 pilot to see planes 7 to 8 km away under perfect conditions, but people tend to forget that WW1 planes were tiny compared to WW2 aircraft. These are small single seat aircraft, barely more substantial than a modern ultra-light. And they are not shiny metal or painted bright colours like a modern Cessna, they are camouflaged. If you read some biographies, it becomes apparent that pilots had a hard time seeing aircraft, often even at very close range.

I find that I can spot planes at about 3km using no labels, if I am very sharp. I think that might be a bit shy of real conditions, but I don't find it unreasonable when compared to historical accounts I've read. But what do I know? Anyway, I like a challenge and I like my screen clear of any techno-junk, so I'll be firmly in Level A and probably dying regularly.

The more unrealistic problem, and this only my amateur opinion, is that the AI pilots see significantly farther than the player can. If I could find the setting for the AI's sight range, I'd love to fiddle with it and try bringing their sight distance down a bit.
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 07:45 AM

Question:

Can we switch countries between characters? For example, if my 'A' character is French and dies, could my 'B' character be English or German?
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 11:28 AM

Originally Posted By: nbryant
Second. Does anyone have a quick list of recce/bomber squadrons available on 6/6/16? A quick in game look and I didn't come across any French squadrons (the closest one was dated 10/9/16). And if you enlist with Britain I don't think you can transfer to a French unit, right?


You raise a good point there.
There could be a problem with the rules if you want to fly for french Aéronautique Militaire. You are supposed to spend 5 hours in a two seater before transferring to a fighter unit. Problem is that first two seater unit for France I find in the game is SOP 5 in Alsace in Sept 1917 flying Sopwith Strutters.
There is no two seater french unit in 1916, which was always surprising for me (but not so much because you are missing many reco/bomb french planes like the Caudron, Farman - or even later the Breguet XIV B2 or Salmson 2 which were both built and used in large numbers)
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 12:26 PM

nbryant, you don't need to send pilot files to me.
We must trust each other with everything anyway, so you just send me some data per PM;
I will specify in the rules, what and how.

As for French 2-seaters: I couldn't find ANY units using the Morane Parasol anymore,
which I had hoped would be there at least.
That would mean, that the French flyers can only do 5 hours of flight training
(which I hope is on a two-seater even for the French).
That is damn boring, but also quite safe.

Scout, the AI may be a good indicator for LEVEL A fliers - they behave like startled bees
when they spot enemies, and it should help you to position yourself.
I know, you'd like it even harder, but rest assured: it will be tough enough.

CatKnight, you cannot switch countries for the same pilot, but you can - after the demise
of one flyer - enlist with another country one day later.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 12:57 PM

Since there are no French two-seater units available for the campaign start, I have changed the rules;
see post #1.

The French will have to fly their two-seater time as traqining flights.
Everyone will have to fly only 3 hours on 2-seaters now.
I know that will be boring for the French, and maybe for many others too, but it is a measure
to raise the discipline for all, not to risk their later fighter pilots easily - cause then
it would be 3 hours on 2-seaters again for the next feller.
(Robert, I guess the 3 hours will please you)
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 02:02 PM

Olham, you may want to consider setting up a standalone gmail account and email address for people to send you their info, otherwise your pm box may fill up quickly!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 02:23 PM

Thx, Rick, but same goes for my E-Mail account - it has only limited space.
I hope I can always delete the older PMs?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 07:07 PM

The LEVEL rules were changed - LEVEL C flyers can set the distance for "dots" to 5000,
and they may use the Targetting Cone. This might make the C-LEVEL attractive for all,
who have no TrackIR or other tracking device.

Guys, I have NO idea yet how to valuate the difference between "hot spot", "medium activity" and "quiet zone".
A multiplier for POINTS or ENDURANCE wouldn't work, as the zone activity may change often.
If you have any good ideas, please let me know.
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 07:35 PM

I think Dropbox would be a really good workaround for sending and receiving files here...
Posted By: Minalmist

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 09:41 PM

Count me in. I'll probably fly level A (gonna miss dots frown ). Looking forward to it though.

All the rules are posted on the first page right?
Posted By: nbryant

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/05/14 10:14 PM

Going back to what CatNight asked. If you had the time to commit, could you not create a French, British and German character and fly one flight per day for each? I was thinking of trying to run two careers in parallel...... maybe!
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 04:48 AM

Points for Zones:

A multiplier would probably work just fine, depending on how you plan to track it. If people are reporting to you weekly, then the chart on page 1 could be used to assign an activity level.

I imagine the problem begins when a zone changes level. It might be a little more work depending on how you're working this behind the scenes, but if (for example) you're using a spreadsheet program, you could have one row for each pilot at each difficulty level, then a separate row adding everything together for purpose of publication.

Or you could simply drop it as a consideration. Someone in a quieter sector is in less danger, but they have less opportunities as well.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 09:14 AM

Aris and all: you guys should post me your records via PM - I'll specify in the rules.
The chart will be a graphic which I put into this thread.

Minalmist, all updates for rules are in post #1.

nbryant, only one character is allowed per user; otherwise it would get too complex for me to handle.
Also, I would like to see that everyone fully concentrates on the survival of his pilot.
If we had several pilots going, we might risk one or another more easily.

As for the points for different area activity:
I think I will add a column in the chart for the zone points for "hot", "medium" or "quiet" zones.
And maybe valuate the points then in a new way, which considers the "zone points".
I'll specify that in the rules.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 09:46 AM

Some updates made in post #1 -
final rules will be fixed on Saturday evening or earlier.
There will then be a confirmation under post #1.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 02:55 PM

(This is only a thought, not an attempt to have the rules modified... smile2)

I've seen in the rules you must enter at a low rank (Sgt/Vizefeldwebel) and select "Lead by rank", which means you will have to top a good number of missions before being able to lead a flight.

Although this is more historical, I prefer in my own campaigns entering with a higher rank (Lt) and "Always lead". Flying in Rick's challenges have confirmed me in this way :

- as low rank you might have an older plane and you're not able to keep up with the flight (N17 / N23 in the RFC 60) 2 missions I lost them and had to RTB.
- you have to do the boring "turn and climb to altitude" script when the AI pilots are as blind as during the landing script (I had enemy planes crossing our path 200m lower than us and noone moved) When I lead I skip waypoints with shift-W to point directly to the mission hotspot and choose my own path and altitude. (Sometimes altitude set at the briefing can take you above the clouds layer for an artillery support flight and you cannot see the ground.)
- AI leaders stick to the briefing waypoints, when sometimes another path would be smarter (like flying across enemy territory to rejoin a patrol station when it would be smarter to stay on your own side and fly along the front)
- they sometimes take strange decisions like aborting a mission for no apparent reason (except going to the crapper as someone pointed out...)and landing on the closest airfield.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 03:46 PM

Hi Olham: I am looking forward to the big start on Sunday! A minor item to look at ... the rules initially mention the minimum two-seater time as 3 hours, but then later in the rules 5 hours is mentioned.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 04:35 PM

reading

Points for Zones: I agree with Catknight. It would be less work just to drop it since the quiet sections would equal lower scores and points.

Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 05:57 PM

How do I take on a pilot for the 7th June? I don't seem to have the option....

When I last tried the << and >> keys didn't do anything. Now they do, so I have enlisted on the 7th June No 18 Squadron RFC flying FE2b's (I didn't want a BE2c squadron in 1916). Also Sgts get to fly them.

So, Corsaire, you have to go through the squadrons until you find one where the top ranks and the bottom ranks fly the same aircraft. 18 sqn was one such squadron, though there may be others.



Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 06:11 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
How do I take on a pilot for the 7th June? I don't seem to have the option....


On the enlistment screen there is a button on the lower right for manual squad enlistment. You can then pick your country, squad and arrow through to the start date.

Edit: heh, glad you got it yep
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 06:21 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill

So, Corsaire, you have to go through the squadrons until you find one where the top ranks and the bottom ranks fly the same aircraft. 18 sqn was one such squadron, though there may be others.


No hurry I don't plan to join before September, my summer schedule includes fewer flying hours on the PC and they are already booked by other commitments (my own campaigns in WOFF and ROF and my FSX/Air Hauler companies). I will have time to see how it goes ! smile2
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 06:22 PM

Olham (and anybody else for that matter) I can give you an email address on my web site that has plenty of room. It will cost you nothing at all - I look after 4 web sites and they all have lots of disk space and free email addresses. For example, my personal web site has 20 email addresses of which I use one!

I could pm you your 'new' email address which would be olham@domain_name and your password. Funnily enough, the host is Hetzner which is a German company although they also run a lot of sites here in SA.

I am working on a simple Excel spread sheet which would do the calculations of points automatically. You can then copy/paste the results into the forum - I do this for similar reasons on another forum.
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 07:46 PM

For anyone thinking of joining as a German flyer - I have found FA5Lb (Flanders Haubourdin field).

They start Jun 17 with Avialik C1 (All ranks), later getting Roland CII
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 08:50 PM

Corsaire, I wanted the promotions to be visible, as another success besides of victories.
Of course, like most rules, it also has it's downsides.

Scout, 2-seater time was 5 hours first. But since the French don't seem to have any
2-seat units in June 1916, they must fly it all as training time - and that must be
very boring. So I went down for 3 hours for all pilots.
Everyone else might of course spend those 3 hours in flying school as well.

Beanie and all: you can look through Trecce/bomber" squadrons in the enlistment
and should find plenty of units for the 2-seater-time.
After that you use the "transfer" option to get to the fighters.

Jim, if you could do that excel calculation, that would be a great help!
You would create and publish an E-Mail address for all pilots here in this thread;
everyone would send their data/records to you, and you send me the results via PM.
Would that be okay?
I will then make a graphic chart of the latest records once or twice per week.
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 09:29 PM

Olham and Jim - In advance of the start of the campaign - thank you for putting this together for us.

Your hard work is appreciated
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/06/14 09:40 PM

+1
Posted By: MFair

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 01:28 AM

Olham,
How I almost missed this is beyond me but I am all in. I have just gone through all the posts and I am a little confused on how often to fly and advance time. Other than that, this is the cat's meow. A little different flavor than Rick's fantastic Challenges. I am out of town at the moment but will be back Sunday and can start. Thanks again for your efforts in putting this on!
Mark
Posted By: MFair

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 01:38 AM

Might have figured it out. Fly however many missions come up for that day, or 1 if we want. If we miss a few days, advance time until you are on the same date as real life? "All flights cancelled" go fishing and try again tomorrow?
Mark
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 02:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Olham

Scout, 2-seater time was 5 hours first. But since the French don't seem to have any
2-seat units in June 1916, they must fly it all as training time - and that must be
very boring. So I went down for 3 hours for all pilots.
Everyone else might of course spend those 3 hours in flying school as well.


Understood. I was just pointing out that page three of the rules still says 5 hours instead of 3 hours in a couple of spots.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 06:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Olham

Jim, if you could do that excel calculation, that would be a great help!
You would create and publish an E-Mail address for all pilots here in this thread;
everyone would send their data/records to you, and you send me the results via PM.
Would that be okay?
I will then make a graphic chart of the latest records once or twice per week.


I have an even better idea whereby the pilots can put in their figures on-line via a URL on my web site and those results will be emailed to me automagically.

Hold onto your goggles folks we are about to enter the 21st Century!

I will first set up an email address at woff_did_campaign@attrill.co.za and test it...

Unless you want a different name?
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 07:19 AM

Ok any emails to woff_did_campaign@attrill.co.za will be automatically forwarded to me.

Olham, is there any way that a list of pilot names can be produced - then I can put them in a 'drop down list' on the web and nobody else will be able to give their results.... It also cuts out mis-spellings of pilot names which is more important for the evaluation. Maybe from the vote on CombatAce?
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 08:47 AM

Ok all you pilots - have a go at this method of putting in your results:

http://www.attrill.co.za/WOFFcampaign.htm

You can submit your answers as this is just in test at the moment. Please leave comments in this thread.
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 10:31 AM

Great Jim!! thumbsup
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 10:46 AM

Olham - one question .... Can I assume that the date flown is the date of capture but in 1916? So if someone captures their data on Sunday the 8th June 2014 I can assume that their flying date is 7/8 June 1916?

Also, do you get any points for being promoted? ie. Sgt = points calculated x 1, 2nd lieutenant = points calc x 1.1, lieutenant = ....... Somehow I don't like this idea much as rank doesn't come into it really except at the higher ranks you can lead.

I am going to add an active or dead field to the capture. Once a pilot is reported dead he stays dead winkngrin
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 11:00 AM

Completed the survey - no problems
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 11:15 AM

Ok Beanie - gotcha or should I say Vizefeldwebel Augustus Mueller?
I am flying as Sergeant Anthony Agrayne.

As far as I am concerned you can do the survey any time although maybe we should stick to Olham's idea of Sunday and Wednesday. Remember that the flying hours, sorties and victories are TOTALS at any one time and not incremental.

I am now working on the spreadsheet to calc the points earned. I am certainly not going to 'win' this campaign as I am a terrible pilot. Maybe I should stick to IT mycomputer
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 12:42 PM

MFair - yes, you fly as often or as little as you want or can (and as the sim offers for that day.
If you haven't been flying for several days, you need to advance time manually to the new date.

Thank you, Scout - must correct that. Final rules appear today, Saturday.


JimAttrill - thanks for the great website - that should make it easier for all. The ranks must be (Brit, France, Ger., USA)
1. Sergeant / Adjutant / Offizierstellvertreter / 2nd Lieutenant
2. 2nd Lieutenant / Sous-Lieutenant / Leutnant / 1st Lieutenant
3. Lieutenant / Lieutenant / Oberleutnant / Captain
4. Captain / Capitaine / Hauptmann / Major
(Higher ranks differ, some don't have them, and so they will not be listed)

* Lieutanant / Oberleutnant /
Pilots must send their data with the last date flown. If they fell, they must tell the date.
New pilots can only begin one day after the demise - and in 2-seaters again.
A dead pilot will receive a last valuation with the next release of "valuation chart" I make.

The ranks stand for themselves - no further valuation.

Jim, please look into post #1 - the valuation was changed.
Will the valuation always be visible in your website? That would be great,
and I wouldn't have to make charts.
Or I only make a chart with the final records of fallen pilots.
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 01:04 PM

Already have the first mission under my belt (wing?) Bombing mission of enemy front lines.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 01:18 PM

Beanie and all early flyers, please note your flight time AND your ZONE ACTIVITY (hot, medium or quiet)
with your flight hours for the valuation.
If your ZONE activity changes, list the next hours extra, with the new ZONE activity.

Jim_Attrill, can you make three lines for flight hours, with the additions "Hotspot", "Medium activity" and "Quiet zone" ?
Then each flyer can add the flight hours accordingly.
We would then also need
1. flight hours summed up
2. valuation according to ZONES (see changed rules and valuation, post #1)
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 01:24 PM

PS: now it seems to get more complex than I had hoped - but there is no easy way to valuate
the ZONEs, as they are always changing here and there.
A simple multiplier wouldn't do - we must valuate the hours/zones seperately, and then
sum up for the valuation.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 01:32 PM

Ok Olham, remember that WOFF itself only shows total flying hours. Now we are asking the pilots to cut their hours in three depending on the Zone they are in. I can do this, but it requires a lot of thought on their part and the keeping of a diary to show where they were and when. I can do 1 and 2 as above but I have no way of validating their responses. So then, each post on the site will have FOUR lots of hours
1. the WOFF total
2. Hotspot recent hours for this post
3. ditto Medium for this post
4. ditto Quiet Zone for this post

For obvious reasons only one figure can be put in for 2 3 and 4 though I can't stop them doing that...

I would suggest that we don't do this. Just work on the total hours?

But I'll change the web site accordingly.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 01:39 PM

Jim, pls check your PMs - we should communicate this there.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 01:43 PM

PLEASE WAIT, EVERYBODY

Please don't start yet - the valuation needs to be fixed and settled first.
Otherwise you may be missing something to report, that we'd need.

Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 01:54 PM

Hi folks, the way I see it is that there is a 'total hours' that you can fill in which is what Woff reports.
For every report you will have to say how many of the latest sortie(s) hours were in each of the three activity zones depending on the zone and date. In theory (!) they should all add up....

For myself I don't know where the north flanders and south flanders border is...
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 02:17 PM

Good point, Jim - I'll try to define a line between north and south Flanders.
There is no such division in WOFF, but in the real life front line activities.
I'll come back to you.
Posted By: Rover_27

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 04:09 PM

Alright, I've enlisted with RFC-8 in Bellevue (Flanders South). It's now June 7, 1916 and I'm off to my first flight
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 04:42 PM

Ok, you can add your details after your flight.

http://www.attrill.co.za/WOFFcampaign.htm

Now I must go and fly myself!
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 04:43 PM

The activity zones only change at the end of certain months, so fortunately there are long runs where the activity remains the same. You only really need to know at the end of each month if a player's is moving into a month with a different activity, otherwise steady-as-she-goes. (Edit: except for transfers ... that's a complication I forgot about)

But on the occasional month end that the activity is changing, then from that point on it will become very tricky to keep the past data and future data separate. I wish I had a brilliant idea to manage it, but I don't.

I'm worried that expecting the players to keep track of the various hours flown in each zone and have them report it accurately will be a complicated nightmare for you guys. I would hate to see you pull out all your hair!
Posted By: Leaf85

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 04:54 PM

I went through the questionnaire to add my pilots details but the list did not update. I've enlisted Corp. Olivier Papineau, of Gatineau, Quebec into the training squadron to be assigned Esc. 38 in the Verdun sector. They fly out of Dugny. Oh, and I'll be using B-level but may end up changing to C-level if possible. Cheers!


Kind regards,
Dave
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 05:07 PM

I spotted you Leaf85 and you are now added to the drop-down list. Please do your entry again. I also think you should be a Sergent according to the rules above, but rank doesn't really matter except that you get points for promotion.

http://www.attrill.co.za/WOFFcampaign.htm

In theory you can only change levels by taking on a new pilot.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 05:11 PM

Originally Posted By: 77_Scout
The activity zones only change at the end of certain months, so fortunately there are long runs where the activity remains the same. You only really need to know at the end of each month if a player's is moving into a month with a different activity, otherwise steady-as-she-goes. (Edit: except for transfers ... that's a complication I forgot about)

But on the occasional month end that the activity is changing, then from that point on it will become very tricky to keep the past data and future data separate. I wish I had a brilliant idea to manage it, but I don't.

I'm worried that expecting the players to keep track of the various hours flown in each zone and have them report it accurately will be a complicated nightmare for you guys. I would hate to see you pull out all your hair!


I have told Olham that I don't know how we will manage this at all for the reasons you give. With just a total of hours flown it is quite simple. But we shall see...

Just capture your data and we will sort it all out neaner
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 05:25 PM

I thought we could add our flight hours to one of three lines: "Hot", "Medium" and "Quiet",
and every next flight add hours to one of that again.
If that is not possible, we must valuate each pilots's points only once at the end of every
month.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 05:48 PM

I have just enlisted my pilot, and saw that there are now three lines for the flight hours
in "hot", "medium" or "quiet" zones. Thanks for the working out, Jim!
I can always do the valuation for the weekly chart manually.

Now let us all try to survive - good luck, gentlemen!
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 06:52 PM

Okay, I have finished (and reported) my first flight. Yikes. The Huns threw a party and invited my entire squadron.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 07:30 PM

I have created a JSGME version of the UI.XML file and placed it on my dropbox for anyone interested in using it.

This modified UI.XML will only display black dots for aircraft when the Labels key is turned on, and it will also only display the label details for your own squad. All other labels details have been turned off.

You can download it from here:

Black dots and your own squad label info only. Click here to download

make sure to unzip it into your "mods" folder, and then implement it via JSGME implementation tool.

Best Regards;
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 07:45 PM

ahhh crap, I cant decide which side to fly.....

Be2's with No 9 rfc or FFA 27 aviatiks......sob sob
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 07:47 PM

My first sortie is logged - and I am already wounded! It's a tough world!
I can only continue on June 9.
The gunner in my Roland must be deaf and blind - a Nupe flew right behind us and shot us up,
and he still missed it, instead of shooting it down.

However - shall we post our pilot books? Here is mine.

Posted By: Beanie

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 08:32 PM

Hi

Help is needed. I can take a in-flight shot, but I am unable to take a screen shot of my pilot book - any ideas?

Cheers
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 08:33 PM

hsdx google it
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 08:38 PM

Cheers lederhosen.
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 08:39 PM

Beanie
Hit print screen button on your keyboard. Go to Windows circle logo on bottom left, click on it and select the All Programs folder>Accessories>Paint. Paste (ctrl v) into Paint window then save as a jpeg, then upload here.

I just flew my first mission and logged 64 minutes with RFC-10 on a B.E.2c. No enemy aircraft sighted. I could barely get that clunker up to 8,000 ft. before she kept stalling on me. My home airfield is in north Flanders (medium sector), yet half of my flight (30 minutes) was in south Flanders (hot sector). When logging hours, it's the sector we fly our mission in right? Or is it just the sector our airfield is in?
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 08:53 PM

Or simpler download Greenshot ... works for all UI shots.
For some reason the in-game shots don't work with it (I get a black screen) so I use the standard "k" procedure for those.
(In FSX it works for all my shots)
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 08:56 PM

Cheer Shiloh - beers are on me! cheers
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 09:03 PM

Augustus Mueller FA5 Lb 1st Mission

Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 09:40 PM

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Sgt. Artemus Burroughs of 15 RFC was assigned a rail yard attack this AM that proved successful. But the brass hats decided it was not successful enough and sent B Flight out again this afternoon to hit the same rail yard, (the Bapaume spur located west of the city on the edge of the mud). Artemus had no luck getting an egg on the target in either outing and his gunner/obs, Captain Jeffrey Knight, had equally poor aim when it came to shooting at the five Eindeckers that bounced them as they were over the depot during the afternoon sortie. On the bright side, Sgt. Burroughs tossed his bus around in the sky with such aplomb that the Huns weren't able to get a shot on them either. Everyone made it home so it's off to the mess for a nibble and a slosh, then early to bed for a good bit a kip. Tomorrow's adventures will come soon enough no doubt.



Good luck everyone on your DID campaigns. They are going to be brutal, I fear.

cheers

Lou

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Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 10:11 PM

June 7, 1916

After joining RFC 23, I was assigned to a flight of F.E.2bs on a patrol behind the front lines.

Everything went fine: Our flight of four began heading north, while another flight of three trailed behind. I made conversation with my observer, Captain Scudsworth, since otherwise I'd just be sitting there trying to pilot while staring at his head.

Suddenly a Fokker E.III swooped out of NOWHERE on top of A flight. He must have been in the clouds. My lead didn't react. A flight's lead didn't react! He just dove in, snapped up one of our F.E.2bs, and seemed to leave.

On the return leg he returned, nibbled on 'A' flight a little then began a determined push to catch us. Still my lead didn't react. I didn't want to chance fighting this guy, so broke formation and began climbing away...which turned out to be a mistake, as Herr Fokker found that very interesting.

Still, I was doing a fair job keeping ahead of him until I noticed a plane heading towards me from the front: A Roland C.II. Pretty soon he was trying to figure out how to get a shot on me, I turned to defeat his gun resolution and here comes the Fokker.

I broke into a dive to try and get away, but one of them got a good solid burst into my tail. Nothing major hit, just enough to convince me it was time to land. I began a downwards spiral, not dissimilar to a normal landing, and the tight turns seems to defeat them. As we drifted downwards I saw a whole squad of birds ahead fighting...somebody. More Rolands. No, I definitely didn't want to join that party.

I landed hard: Afraid of fences, I made a sharp last second turn and hit wing first. Fortunately I got my wheels under me and skidded to a stop. Still alive, still uninjured, still free. Not bad.

Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 10:31 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
Good luck everyone on your DID campaigns. They are going to be brutal, I fear.

Thanks, Lou - you can say that again!
Posted By: samba_liten

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/07/14 11:40 PM




Liebe Vati, Cher Maman, June 7th
Somewhere in Flanders

It's a long way from Lothringen to Belgium, but here I am. I arrived at the aerodrome 3 days ago. The chaps are first rate. Gave me an outstanding welcome. Well, except for the old hands. They seem to keep their distance from us new chaps. Anyway, I've got my own bedroom in town. Quite cosy! It's clean and the bed is soft. What more could a soldier ask for?

We were up early this morning. The boss must have been impressed with me (or more likely my name. Thank you Herr General Vati!) because he told me to lead a recon patrol. Imagine that! Me leading 3 others on my very first patrol! Right after breakfast the boss showed me where to go on the map, and told me to keep my eyes peeled. Apparently there are rumors that the English are up to something. Now, before you start worrying Maman, let me say that absolutely nothing happened during the patrol. No sign of any offensive here. Just some archie, and we saw two or three English planes parked at an aerodrome far below. Round and round we went. I was, frankly, a bit bored, but my observer was busy! He was forever scribbling in his notebook. I think he even counted the cows in the fields below!

I've got to go. It's time for dinner, and there might be another patrol in the evening. I hope everything is well at home. Give my love to Reinhardt and little Louise. I hope you have enough to eat.

PS.
Please send me a new pipe, and my Goethe. There is a surprising amount of spare time here!

PPS.
Here is a picture of my aeroplane.

One of my squadron mates took it this morning, on patrol. We have our own darkroom and everything here (for pictures of the front line, normally) so we developed it as soon as we came home. Quite nice, don't you think? Perhaps it could be a post card someday?


Olham, i used my login name, samba_liten, when i submitted my report. Hope that doesn't cause too much confusion.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 12:41 AM


click image upload





An WOFF instructor gave me this handbook and wished me luck

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/fokker-fodder.jpg
Posted By: MFair

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 12:58 AM


Albert Andrews completed his 1st flight. Got jumped by EIII's over patrol area. Observer sent one down smoking as I dove out to head back as we were getting hammered. Got shed of the last one trying to bring us down and climbed back up and found one of my flight which formed up on me. We headed back to Abeele and landed safely. Our flight leader and his observer were badly wounded.

Olham, this is fun!
Posted By: Rover_27

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 04:12 AM

My first mission is a Railyard Attack, and I'm leading a flight of 2. I used TAC to choose targets and my mate made a perfect hit destroying 3 ground units. My bombs overshot everything.
Btw, is there a bombsight in BE2? I guess no


Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 07:36 AM

1. Added a few new members to the 'drop down list' so you won't have to say 'Other'
2. hours at easy/medium/hard sectors removed as it is too difficult to keep track of ...
3. 'Wounded' added to Pilot Active list
4. If pilot dies, questions added about how he bought the farm and optional text comment

ID's in list now are:

1. What is your WOFF id?
(Select only one.)
[ ] ArisFuser
[ ] Beanie
[ ] Carrick58
[ ] CatKnight
[ ] JFM
[ ] Jim Attrill
[ ] Kaische
[ ] Leaf85
[ ] lederhosen
[ ] Maeran
[ ] MFair
[ ] MrDirt
[ ] Olham
[ ] Raf_Louvert
[ ] Rick_Rawlings
[ ] samba_liten
[ ] Shiloh
[ ] theultimat
[ ] Other:

I have received a few responses already smile I must say I have not come across samba_liten before.

Because of the changes, I would request that you all fill in the form again this Sunday evening and then I can produce the results some time tomorrow. Remember that I am on -2 hrs GMT here in SA.

I am using the existing data to work out how to easily produce the results. Won't be difficult in Excel.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 11:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Fred
Olham, i used my login name, samba_liten, when i submitted my report.
Hope that doesn't cause too much confusion.

Fred, it does, as you can see in Jim_Attrill's post (he collects the reports from everyone).
Please everybody - enlist with your forum name.

Fred, I liked the idea, that your pilot is an Alsacian, with a French mother even -
and he has still to fight for Germany.
I wonder how he felt - I know the people from Alsace find it hard to decide if they feel
they are French or German; too often were they pushed and pulled from one to the other country.

Jim_Attril, can you change the name "Samba_lite" into "Fred"?
And could you send me the collected records tomorrow midday or afternoon?
I will make the first graphic chart then.


So we got started, and it went good, it seems.
Most flyers seem to have been more lucky than my comrade Jimfred (JFM) or myself were in Kasta 8.
We had a very nasty start; his 8 minutes, and my 38 mins must be a low-end record.
We both even got wounded and have to be in hospital for some days.
It can only get better (or so I hope...)

Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 01:10 PM

First mission smile

I was feeling a little nervous to find muyself flying an Aviatik,...for the first time!



Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 01:36 PM

How is the handling of that craft? I never tried it out yet.
Nice picture of the Aviatik!
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 01:44 PM

Second Mission is over.
Artillery Spotting area of Fleurbaix South West of Armentieres. Was forced to land by some very unfriendly DH2's! The other aircraft failed to return, reported shot down - destroyed South West of Lille.



Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 01:46 PM

Hard to handle wink Loses lots of speed in turns and needs careful landing planning. I really liked to flying it for something different.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 01:54 PM

Nice tableau, Beanie!
Next time I must check those "additional notes" too.
Seems the "Ente" ("duck" in German; for "Entente") really deplumed many of us!

Aris, I guess you need to fly rather high to be safe in the Aviatik?
Posted By: samba_liten

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 02:34 PM

Actually, don't change it. I applied to change my display name on the forums instead. I go by samba_liten practically all over the internet, so why have it be different here?

Anyway, sorry for the confusion. behindcouch
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 04:32 PM


upload image


8 Jun 16
Recon Flight of 3 Be,s.

Bit of bad luck, Blew the Oil Filter ( too much pressure ? ) a clank and a lot of smoke. No roads in sight , so sat it down in a church field. Still rolling I spotted the Fence too late . My gunner is ok,but the medics want us to stay down till the 12 th.


print screen windows xp
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 05:14 PM

Originally Posted By: samba_liten
Anyway, sorry for the confusion. behindcouch

Hey, that must be a new Smiley?! Great!

Hey, Carrick, nice to see you in the air too!
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 06:20 PM

Olham, I am trying to fill the report and everything goes OK until I get to the last screen, the application asks me to fill the information about the way my pilot died even if I clearly state in the previous page that my pilot is alive,... if I leave it blank the application returns an error ( in fact asks me to write some information abouy my dead pilot). Any ideas?
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 06:39 PM

Originally Posted By: ArisFuser
Hard to handle wink Loses lots of speed in turns and needs careful landing planning. I really liked to flying it for something different.


Not talking about forward visibility with the observer in front. I finished my first two seater career in a fence !
Posted By: Leaf85

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 06:42 PM

This is my French Canadian pilot, Arsene Papineau. I put him in the training squadron to get his 5 hours in a two seater-- WOFF started him at rank of Cpl, rather than as a Sgt. I hope this is okay.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 06:45 PM

Leaf, you must make a "Manual enlistment" - see bottom right corner of "Pilot enlistment";
then you can select the correct rank.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 06:45 PM

Reading the first reports have made me change my mind, I cannot wait until September.nope
I have decided to set aside my own campaigns (will fly them when I'm in hospital...) and use my WOFF flying time for this DiD campaign. Will jump in on Tuesday, tomorrow is bank holiday here and I am with family. Will register in B section as I want to keep my dots. I will continue navigating on the super maps that Lou gave us, so I will be "hybrid" between A and B. smile2
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 06:47 PM

Aris, please ask Jim_Attrill about that - he built the report sheet.

Great news, Corsaire! Welcome!

Posted By: carrick58

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 07:07 PM

wave Aris: What I did was leave the pilot marked active and report the crash and down time ( WOFF= wnd in crash with fence) here since hes not Dead. popcorn
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 08:18 PM

Salut


my first...er....attempt to get to the lines









six days orderly dog
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/08/14 08:43 PM

That...is a good landing!
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 09:51 PM

June 8, 1916: Dawn

That was...well, I had a chance to recover from yesterday's shock and enjoy the scenery.

After yesterday's cataclysm (one team dead, one team wounded, two craft destroyed) our CO threw us into the fire in a patrol east of Amiens near Arras, right along the Somme offensive. I lead a 'B' team of three, while the CO was observer for a one machine 'A' team.

I'm using Bletchey's 'OFF Pilot Personality Profiles' from the old campaign for my amusement, and one of my wingmates needed all of two days to decide he hates me: Apparently I was too familiar with the fears of war for his taste - fear isn't something real men talk about in his world. Today's discussion about who or what wet his cot just turned ugly.

So I'm determined to show him up if anything appears, and we should see alot of action in that sector. Right?

Wrong. It's dull, I even nod off at the controls for a few seconds here and there. Twice my wingmen (TAC) point out specks, but I never get a good look and they don't seem the least interested in us. After the better part of two hours we return without having fired a shot.

June 8, 1916: Afternoon

The last sortie left me with 2.95 hours of flight time in. I asked the CO very nicely if I could patrol/lone wolf around the airfield for a few minutes in lieu of the afternoon mission.

He refused, but seemed to take some mercy on me. A simple cake run: Fly to Bruay, a distance of some 6 miles, patrol for 25 minutes, go home. Two man flight. No problem.

That was, until the squad of Rolands bounced us about half way there.

I immediately corkscrewed downwards. Out of the corner of my eye I saw a friendly airfield - Savy and turned towards it. This let one of the Rolands get a good firing solution on me and he blasted my tail. I dove deeper, he passed overhead. I'm not sure, but I think he clipped my wing because suddenly the FE.2.b turned into a beast to handle (like it wasn't already) and my sight turned red.

I managed to land. Hard. I'll be spending several days in the hospital.

--------------------

And several more idle. Has anyone successfully transferred yet?

I had my 3 hours in, so went ahead and picked where I'd like to transfer. I figured the game would process it instantly or nearly so and began fast forwarding - well, it's now June 27 in game and I don't have my answer. (I do have the workshop set to always approve transfers)

I'm wondering if there's a bug.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 10:06 PM

Originally Posted By: CatKnight


Has anyone successfully transferred yet?

I had my 3 hours in, so went ahead and picked where I'd like to transfer. I figured the game would process it instantly or nearly so and began fast forwarding - well, it's now June 27 in game and I don't have my answer. (I do have the workshop set to always approve transfers)

I'm wondering if there's a bug.


No, it takes several missions. You may want to adjust the rules Olham to have people transfer on their first or second mission so it kicks in in a reasonable amount of time...
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 10:30 PM

Rick: Are you sure?

I started a fresh pilot from June 7, same squad (RFC-23), request to same destination (RFC-70) submitted my request immediately, then began fast-forwarding.

It is now August 1.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 10:32 PM

Hmmm - good point; I had never used it before and thought it would happen for the next day.
I'm afraid you'll have to carry on flying the two-seater, until you get transfered.
Like in real life.

For all who see it in time now - you may request your transfer earlier.
Me, I have only 38 minutes so far, and will only be allowed to fly again tomorrow.
I will request my transfer after my second sortie then.
Thanks for pointing it out to us, Cat and Rick.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 10:38 PM


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When you apply for a transfer, even with the 'Always Approved' box ticked, you will still have to successfully complete a mission or two before you will get transferred out of your old unit. Simply advancing time won't do the trick.

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Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 10:38 PM

EDIT: Thanks, Louvert. You're right: 2 missions in my test campaign and I converted.

Okay, so I guess my pilot's injury was more serious than initially thought and we'll take it up in a few weeks!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 10:42 PM

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Are you flying missions CatKnight or just advancing the date? As I just mentioned in the post before yours, you must complete a mission or two before your transfer is approved.

EDIT: Rick, I see you made mention of this same point a few posts back. So I was really just reiterating what you'd already noted. smile

Also, I thought we were flying this DID campaign with the in-sim dates matching RL dates. Yes?

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Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 11:04 PM

Yep, you were right Louvert. I hadn't seen your first post when I replied, and just tested it out.

I think we are trying to match RL dates, but since I was injured anyway, I thought I'd advance to the transfer went through so I'd know when I could start up again. I didn't realize there were more flights to be done. Sorry for the confusion.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 11:13 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
I thought we were flying this DID campaign with the in-sim dates matching RL dates. Yes?

Yes, sure - I wish everyone had read the rules.
We fly on the real life date, but in 1916.
If anyone is hospitalised for a week, the sim will advance the time in the next briefing from June 9 to June 16,
(for example). So you cannot fly any more sorties, until June 16, 2014.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 11:19 PM

Well, my pilot bit the big wiener on a railway bombing run. I was the lone bomber with 5 DH2"s for escort. I got over the target but could not find it (I fly between A and B, only bring up map or tac when lost) and had to circle a bit before spotting it. The escorts had zoomed off so I knew the Huns were around but wanted to complete the mission you know. Well I really creamed the railyard but an EIII caught up with me before crossing the lines. If I would have dropped my bombs and ran the second the escorts disappeared I would still be alive.

I will continue but I don't know for how long. A serious neck and back injury means I cannot sit for long spells without pain I don't care to have. I usually use time advance to shorten my missions. Do not read into this that I want to change the rules, I don't. We all have our limitations. It is a blast though!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 11:27 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
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Are you flying missions CatKnight or just advancing the date? As I just mentioned in the post before yours, you must complete a mission or two before your transfer is approved.

EDIT: Rick, I see you made mention of this same point a few posts back. So I was really just reiterating what you'd already noted. smile

Also, I thought we were flying this DID campaign with the in-sim dates matching RL dates. Yes?

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Lou, it can take many more than a couple of missions. I'm not sure this is predictable because I have a pilot that has been waiting for transfer and he has already completed 5 more missions without the transfer coming through.

I think we need one of the Dev's to answer this question as it may be important to all who are flying DID.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/08/14 11:52 PM

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Really? Robert, I've always had transfers approved the next day as long as I successfully completed the missions assigned me after applying for transfer, (with 'Always Approved').

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 12:13 AM

Okay, so accomplishing the mission may be the key - let's try that.
Although I see little light for my pilot in Kasta 8 then - the French
do their best to keep us away from completing the mission targets.

But: c'est la vie! I'll carry on.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 05:21 AM

The original plan was to make people do 5 hours in two seaters, so an extra couple of missions to get your approval after 3 hours doesn't seem too bad. I figure it's just extra incentive NOT to get killed and have to start again in the two-seaters.

As for me, I plan to stay in my two-seater (Stutter) for the duration. I like having a second machine gun covering my back!!
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 07:32 AM

Yes... I'll be moving into a Strutter. I didn't realize they were 2 seaters until I started testing to see which plane I wanted to move into. :X Beautiful aircraft, especially against annoying Eindeckers.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 08:04 AM

Change to the web survey is to add in RNAS ranks (sorry, forgot about that). The survey ranks start at Petty Officer but the ranks in WOFF do not. So you can take your pick especially as you get no points for promotions.

Added in two pilots - cptroyce and Rover27. The list is now:

What is your WOFF id?

[ ] ArisFuser
[ ] Beanie
[ ] Carrick58
[ ] CatKnight
[ ] cptroyce
[ ] JFM
[ ] Jim Attrill
[ ] Kaische
[ ] Leaf85
[ ] lederhosen
[ ] Maeran
[ ] MFair
[ ] MrDirt
[ ] Olham
[ ] Raf_Louvert
[ ] Rick_Rawlings
[ ] Rover27
[ ] samba_liten
[ ] Shiloh
[ ] theultimat
[ ] Other:

To keep track of changes this is now version 1.0 9th June 2104
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 09:51 AM

Seems you missed the post asking to add me. I will be entering tomorrow. Thanks in advance smile2
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 10:06 AM

Jim and all: the ranks we choose, must be available in WOFF - pls use only those in WOFF.
We want to see, when we get promoted, and so the RNAS flyers (who have less ranks available)
must start with the lowest rank WOFF offers for them.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 01:02 PM

This campaign is interesting. Especially the 2 seater part. Weighing mission against survival. I started a new pilot and the first mission was railyard bombing. I can see the Fokker's coming, I know we will be attacked. Survival means turning and getting home quick. In reality, running would surely mean getting court martialed back at base, if the flight survives and your observer keeps his mouth shut. As it was, the flight leader kept to the mission, so I followed, we plastered the rail yard and me and my observer with fuel lines shot out just made it back over the lines wounded. Only one other out of 5 made it back. I can fly again June 14th!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 01:19 PM

Originally Posted By: MFair
This campaign is interesting. Especially the 2 seater part. Weighing mission against survival. I started a new pilot and the first mission was railyard bombing. I can see the Fokker's coming, I know we will be attacked. Survival means turning and getting home quick. In reality, running would surely mean getting court martialed back at base, if the flight survives and your observer keeps his mouth shut. As it was, the flight leader kept to the mission, so I followed, we plastered the rail yard and me and my observer with fuel lines shot out just made it back over the lines wounded. Only one other out of 5 made it back. I can fly again June 14th!



Mfair, I like your brief report..Concise, to the point, and with appropriate personal analysis. Good show. I must learn to apply same.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 01:19 PM

Yeah, it is a hard world in WOFF!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: 77_Scout
The original plan was to make people do 5 hours in two seaters, so an extra couple of missions to get your approval after 3 hours doesn't seem too bad. I figure it's just extra incentive NOT to get killed and have to start again in the two-seaters.

As for me, I plan to stay in my two-seater (Stutter) for the duration. I like having a second machine gun covering my back!!

Yeah, the Strutter is a great plane. I got kills as the pilot in it against Halberstadts! Now something like the BE2? I wouldn't wish a whole career in that on anyone! biggrin
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 02:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
Originally Posted By: 77_Scout
The original plan was to make people do 5 hours in two seaters, so an extra couple of missions to get your approval after 3 hours doesn't seem too bad. I figure it's just extra incentive NOT to get killed and have to start again in the two-seaters.

As for me, I plan to stay in my two-seater (Stutter) for the duration. I like having a second machine gun covering my back!!

Yeah, the Strutter is a great plane. I got kills as the pilot in it against Halberstadts! Now something like the BE2? I wouldn't wish a whole career in that on anyone! biggrin


I have read of the "suicide" missions flown by recon aircraft in the early years but once you do it in WOFF you realize just how hard it was! Getting 3 hours, without being a total coward, is hard enough. I cannot imagine someone living very long in some of these craft.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 02:41 PM

Corsaire31 added
Petty officer RNAS rank removed.

Can I get a list of all decorations given in WOFF? To all nationalities.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 03:15 PM

My first pilot has fallen.

For my art obs job with a single Roland C.II, I had 3 escorting Eindeckers, one even flown
by Manfred von Richthofen - but when our course came close to our field again after the
climbing phase, they drove off - to land, as I should realise quite soon.
And we hadn't even been to the front sector.

Now I found myself alone with 2 Nieuports approaching.
I went into a steady dive back to our field, where I found my 3 escorts circling for the landing -
which meant, that they couldn't help me anymore.
While my gunner didn't achieve much (despite me flying quite steady), the 2 Nupes shot us up,
until my craft caught fire and crashed.
And that was the end of Andreas Harms.

My next pilot, Bernhard Harms, will definitely NOT fly in a hotspot zone again -
I think the Alsace should just be fine.




Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Corsaire31 added


Thank you will enter report on Wednesday.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 06:07 PM

right WOFF is a dangerous place to fly. Olham , sorry to hear about ur pilot.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 07:01 PM

9th June 1916. I set off with a flight of 5 FE2b's. I don't know what aircraft we were set upon by as I never saw them. I eventually dived right down to the ground and crash landed in a field (no fences). So I was a 'forced down' I suppose. 3 crews were dead and the other severely wounded. Apparently I had shot down an aircraft though I can't say I saw it. So I put in a claim form giving as a witness the one other surviving pilot. And so far I only have .8 hours flying time! At this rate I'll be lucky to last to Wednesday ...

This seems a bit low. Does 'air start' cut down your hours? I tend to do that because the beginnings of a sortie are quite boring.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 07:06 PM

Olham, just as a quick tip, I find flying steady does not necessarily contribute to the likelihood of your gunner actually opening up. I was never able to predict when he was going to shoot so I just flew as unpredictably as I could and hoped for the best. At least they had a hard time hitting me!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 07:14 PM

Yeah, I did that of course, once I saw he is shooting like on a fairground.
But the Nieuport were faster than the Roland, and without my escort I could
not get away from them anymore.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 07:15 PM

Gents, the graphic chart will take a bit longer to work out the first time -
the calculation sheet is still not doing the right things. Maybe tomorrow...
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Does 'air start' cut down your hours? I tend to do that because the beginnings of a sortie are quite boring.


Well I hope it does, it would be unfair for those of us who fly the whole mission to have the same flying hours. winkngrin
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 07:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Gents, the graphic chart will take a bit longer to work out the first time -
the calculation sheet is still not doing the right things. Maybe tomorrow...


No problem Olham, at all, take your time,...and by the way, THANKS for all this.
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 07:26 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Does 'air start' cut down your hours? I tend to do that because the beginnings of a sortie are quite boring.


Well I hope it does, it would be unfair for those of us who fly the whole mission to have the same flying hours. winkngrin


+1
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: ArisFuser
Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Does 'air start' cut down your hours? I tend to do that because the beginnings of a sortie are quite boring.


Well I hope it does, it would be unfair for those of us who fly the whole mission to have the same flying hours. winkngrin


+1


Yes it does. I noticed this some months ago using "air start". Flying time starts when you start flying. I can attest to the fact that the "boring" factor will get you killed, you have to fight past it. I heard a WWII fighter pilot say that "air combat is hours of boredom interspersed with a few minutes of sheer terror."
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 09:16 PM

Sorry about your pilot Olham, still a long way off until we get our Albatros's back!

Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 09:23 PM

Thanks for your condolences, Beanie - yeah, I guess I will fly in a less hot zone
until we get at least the Halberstadt!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 10:50 PM

I officially enter the campaign, flying a Strutter for RNAS 4.
First mission railyard bombing deep into enemy territory. 3 Strutters escorted by 2 Aircos DH2. Bombing went fine all bombs on target from 11.000 feet. Was jumped by a lone Eindecker on the way back well inside our lines, more than halfway back (thought they didn't cross ? smile ) while I was looking at my map for navigation on the other monitor (looks like my observer didn't see it coming either, he never shot...) Managed to hit him once and he called it off. Soon after my engine dies at 5000 ft and I land on the next road. I'm off in hospital with my blind observer for the next 7 days. A hot start and a good lesson : don't think it's over because you're close from home !



Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 10:57 PM

Join the Club, Corsaire!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/09/14 11:53 PM

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Olham, sorry to see your pilot fell, and so quickly. On the up side, the Alsace is lovely his time of year.

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Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 12:03 AM

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Private Journal of Artemus Burroughs


6 June 1916:

Arrived this afternoon at my first posting as an RFC pilot, 15 Squadron based at Marieux. Met my G/O, Captain Knight, who I will be chauffeuring about in what appears to be a very clapped out BE2. I’ve already written down my final wishes so that they may be carried out upon my demise. Still, better than eventually dying in the trenches with my old mates from the 1st Bedfordshire.



7 June 1916:

Morning sortie began at 8:00. Went with B Flight to bomb a rail yard west of Bapaume. Was very glad to see that we had an escort of Airco scouts watching over us. Gladness short-lived when all six of them went traipsing off after something on the horizon leaving us on our own as we crossed over the mud. Lt. Corwin led us well, dropping everything on the target. I on the other hand dropped everything well short. No Huns about in the air so a quiet out and back except for the occasional bump from Archie. Never did see the Aircos return. Lovely day in terms of weather.

Afternoon sortie had us going back out to attack the same bloody rail yard. Apparently the brass hats didn’t like how we were holding our pinkies during the first attempt. This run resulted in all four Quirks missing the mark, blowing up nothing but dirt and scrub. As we were passing over the mud five Eindeckers attacked our flight. I held my bus steady to allow the Captain a good shot on one that was zipping down upon us. I could have done better myself and flown at the same time and after the second volley from the Hun went zipping past my ears I began tossing the Quirk about to throw off our attacker’s aim. Luck was with us and the whole of B Flight returned intact. Upon landing I was chastised by Captain Knight for not allowing him more time to line up his shot. When I mentioned that the Hun appeared to have plenty of time to take aim he called me impertinent and said I’d better watch my step. I’ve lost count how many times I’ve been cautioned thusly since signing on at Kitchener’s behest back in ‘14.



8 June 1916:

Sunrise take-off, again with B Flight, this time to bomb some Fritz gun positions along the mud near Courcelette. Lt. Corwin leading again, and again he found his mark. I stayed right on his tail and managed the same trick. Returned to Marieux without incident and enjoyed a hot breakfast.

Afternoon sortie was a disaster. Three of us from B Flight, led by Lt. Dawson, were sent to hit the Hun aerodrome at Bertincourt. We were supposed to have an escort of Airco scouts but they never arrived so we went on without them. Found the target and dropped our eggs but caused no real damage. On our return my mount began losing power and started giving up altitude. Just as we crossed the mud a trio of Eindeckers attacked the other two Quirks, now some distance above us, leaving the Captain and me with nothing to do but watch the slaughter. Dawson and his G/O Milligan were the first to go, their bus bursting into flames, then plummeting to earth. Steele and his G/O Hayden were next, forced down, crashing into a small copse of trees east of Beumont-Hamel. I realized at that moment it would be wise to get the hell out of the area and dove towards Bellevue aerodrome. We reached it just as the three Huns were about to pounce. However, the gunners down on the ground made our attackers reconsider their plans and they instead turned tail and headed back across NML. One last bit of excitement, as I was landing the engine conked entirely nearly causing my bus to ground loop, fortunately only busted the right lower wing as I straightened it out. A god-awful outing. I’m putting in for a transfer to the scouts. They seem to come and go as they please and don’t have to rely on someone else to do the shooting for them.


9 June 1916:

Morning grey and cloudy. First sortie, off to bomb the rail yard east of Bapaume, again! Due to certain observations I made at the evening meal the night before I was told to head up this outing. Led Sergeants Abbot and Sedgewick and their G/Os Lieutenants Bristed and Rodland, and we flew directly to the target without escort. Approached from the south, dropping to 1,000’ before delivering our eggs. I scored direct hits on the warehouses and the rest of B Flight hit the ammo dumps and rolling stock. The entire yard erupted in flames. Turned immediately west and returned to camp as fast as our Quirks could go. Back at the mess in time for breakfast and boasting. Good news as well, Lt. Steele was not killed when his bus was forced down and he is now back in camp and swearing revenge for his lost brethren.

Afternoon sortie was a recce of the front lines south of Arras. B Flight actually had protection in the form of six Airco scouts that stuck with us the entire trip. They earned their keep by driving off a hoard of Eindeckers that tried attacking us as we began our reconnoitering of the area. Minimal interruption and we completed our task in about 25 minutes then returned to camp, everyone safe and sound. During evening mess I was informed by the CO that my request for transfer had been approved and good riddance to anyone who didn’t want to be in his squadron. I would be moving first thing in the morning to Bertangles West where I was to report to Major Hawker. 24 Squadron and the Airco!



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Dawson and Milligan gone west.



Nearly an ender.



On target.


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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 12:13 AM

That bomb blast shot is awesome, Lou!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 01:02 AM

Congratulations on your success and transfer to scouts Lou. I am looking at the same squadron myself, hope I see you there.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 02:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
Olham, just as a quick tip, I find flying steady does not necessarily contribute to the likelihood of your gunner actually opening up. I was never able to predict when he was going to shoot so I just flew as unpredictably as I could and hoped for the best. At least they had a hard time hitting me!


Rick, I found it helps if you go to the observer seat and see what his field of fire is. I would swerve in the FE and the observer would not fire. I am thinking, "shoot the bloody thing, you idiot." Not until I put myself in his shoes did I realize I was taking him out of his field of fire. With that plane anyway it is very limited, but now I know if one is one my tail in that plane how to give the observer the best shot.
Mark
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 02:45 AM

thumbsup Con grats Lou on making it to scouts.
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 03:17 AM

Where is the running DID Campaign "scoreboard" to be found? Did I miss something earlier?

Thanks
Royce
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 07:36 AM

Olham and I are still working out the details of scoring. Whatever we do it will be the same for everybody. It is simple at the moment but will become difficult when pilots fly in different difficulty areas or the difficulty for the same area changes with time.

For the moment, can I backtrack on what I asked before. ALL HOURS ENTERED ON THE WEB SHOULD BE TOTALS. (otherwise I have to add them up which is next to impossible to get right).

So, as an example, if you have done two sorties of 1.5 hrs and 1.4 hours at HOTSPOT then you should capture:

Hours: 2.9 Hotspot Hours 2.9 Medium hours 0 Quiet Hours 0 sorties 2

If you then move to a squadron in a Medium area and fly 1.3 hour sortie, then capture:

Hours: 4.2 Hotspot Hours 2.9 Medium hours 1.3 Quiet Hours 0 sorties 3

ps. If you get it wrong for some reason then capture it again. I mostly look at the latest post.

And I do not check that you are putting your hours under the correct sector difficulty level. I trust you to get that right.

Olham and I are doing well (except he is dead and I was 'forced down' on my second sortie).
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 07:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
That bomb blast shot is awesome, Lou!


At the moment we do not give points for bombs dropped etc which is reported by WOFF. Maybe that will come.
Be careful Lou! Without giving anything away I can say you have the most points at the moment as I have the least!
So we both have to try to stay alive ....
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 07:56 AM

Oh, and I have just remembered... The WEB software captures the results in a database that I use to extract to Excel. It can also email all the results in readable form to specified email addresses - only mine at the moment so I know when someone has captured their latest details. But anyone else can get these as they are not secret in any way if you want to see how everyone is doing.

If you want this facility please PM me with your email address. Do NOT put it in here as that can be dangerous for trolling software. The PM's are, I believe safe from spies. attack
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 09:42 AM

From reading the great report from Lou, I see that you can fly several flights a day, which is different from Rick's challenges where we had to fly one mission per day. Could we have a confirmation from organization ? I didn't find anything about it in the rules.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 11:06 AM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
From reading the great report from Lou, I see that you can fly several flights a day, which is different from Rick's challenges where we had to fly one mission per day. Could we have a confirmation from organization ? I didn't find anything about it in the rules.



I thought 1 flight per "REAL" day. My first was on Saturday the 7th, 6 days off for wound on that mission, puts my next flight for Thursday....the 13th...real time. At least thats how I interpet the campaign.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 11:34 AM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
So, as an example, if you have done two sorties of 1.5 hrs and 1.4 hours at HOTSPOT then you should capture:

Hours: 2.9 Hotspot Hours 2.9 Medium hours 0 Quiet Hours 0 sorties 2

Jim, sorry, but this doesn't make sense.
Please, let us communicate everything about the rules and valuation via PM.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 11:49 AM

Corsaire, I was a little confused myself and Olham answered it in an earlier post, which there are a lot and easy to miss.

You can fly however many missions your squad flies on that day. Or you can fly 1 if that is all you want to fly. Once the time advances to the next day, you wait till then to fly again. I flew 2 missions on the 9th, was wounded on the second mission and will not fly again until the 14th when I get out of the hospital. If your flights for say the 11th of June are cancelled for bad weather, you don't fly on the 11th, try again on the 12th. Hope this explains it.
mark
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 12:18 PM

Corsaire and all: yes, you can fly more than one sortie per day.
But you can only fly as many sorties as WOFF gives you for a day - when WOFF manager
changes the date to next day, you must stop and wait, until that date is reached in real life.

Also, you can stop flying for days - you only need to advance time in the "Briefing" then,
to catch up with the real life date.

I know, it is still like a beta version - I had never thought it would be so complex.
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 12:49 PM

August Mueller 3 Mission 9 June 1916

Bombing Behind Enemy Front Lines. Jumped by British DH2's before we were able to get to the bombing area.



Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Corsaire and all: yes, you can fly more than one sortie per day.
But you can only fly as many sorties as WOFF gives you for a day - when WOFF manager
changes the date to next day, you must stop and wait, until that date is reached in real life.

Also, you can stop flying for days - you only need to advance time in the "Briefing" then,
to catch up with the real life date.

I know, it is still like a beta version - I had never thought it would be so complex.


Thanks, it's clear ! I'll be chasing nurses until the 17th ... yep
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 01:35 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Originally Posted By: Olham
Corsaire and all: yes, you can fly more than one sortie per day.
But you can only fly as many sorties as WOFF gives you for a day - when WOFF manager
changes the date to next day, you must stop and wait, until that date is reached in real life.

Also, you can stop flying for days - you only need to advance time in the "Briefing" then,
to catch up with the real life date.

I know, it is still like a beta version - I had never thought it would be so complex.


Thanks, it's clear ! I'll be chasing nurses until the 17th ... yep


Corsair, I have my eyes on the Brunette! At least until the 14th.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 01:53 PM

I think that if we fly a mission every two weeks and are "nursed" in between, we might make it through the war ! winkngrin

Wasn't there a rule in the original DiD campaign that you had to retire your pilot after so many weeks in hospital ? I seem to remember three times 14 days or more, but can't find it precisely.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 01:59 PM

Originally Posted By: MFair
Corsair, I have my eyes on the Brunette! At least until the 14th.

The hot brunette as well as the blonde both work for the Ministry of War.
When the doctors ask "I wonder if this pilot can stand another battle?"
they may reply "Well, from what I saw, he can..."

Corsaire, no more complications, pls... dizzy
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 02:02 PM

Augustus Mueller 4 Mission 10 June 1916

Artillery Spotting - Area of Cuinchy South East of Bethune

Another aborted mission due to enemy attack - but I am still alive!

Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 02:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Corsaire, no more complications, pls... dizzy


Well it's not really complicated for you, it is up to each player to follow on his pilot's hospital days.
Wouldn't it be strange to have pilots still flying after ten or more stays in hospital ?
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Originally Posted By: Olham
Corsaire, no more complications, pls... dizzy


Well it's not really complicated for you, it is up to each player to follow on his pilot's hospital days.
Wouldn't it be strange to have pilots still flying after ten or more stays in hospital ?


I always wanted to do a screenplay about Nungesser called "The Man Who Couldn't Die"...
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 02:21 PM

Yes, maybe - but I don't think they will survive so many accidents.
That would be incredible chains of luck.

Let's keep in mind, that a sim always offers many more dangerous clashes with E/A
than the real life pilots had - we must compensate for that somehow.

But if more users think we should terminate a pilot's carreer after soandso many
weeks in a hospital, then please tell us here.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 02:28 PM

@Rick_Rawlings
Yep,amazing ! He survived a first plane crash in Feb 1916 with two broken legs and the stick breaking his jaw. Then later in May 1917 they had to move him to a place with a hospital nearby as he had to go there after each and every flight. Then a terrible car accident in October sends him back to hospital ! Don't know how he managed to fly after that until the end of the war !
And all this to finally disappear somewhere in the Atlantic with "L'oiseau Blanc" while attempting the first crossing...
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 02:33 PM

@Olham :
No problemo if you find this is too much, it's just that I seemed to remember this rule from the OFF campaign. But I'm not either 100% sure.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 02:38 PM

Let's hear what other say to this?

I don't remember the original rules, and I didn't study them for this project;
I just used the basics and made it more complicated. Mmuahahahahaaa!!!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 04:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Let's hear what other say to this?

I don't remember the original rules, and I didn't study them for this project;
I just used the basics and made it more complicated. Mmuahahahahaaa!!!


We have a saying in southeastern USA. Let a sleeping dog lay. Just my 2 cents worth.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 04:59 PM

I shot down an aircraft with one bullet - well more than that were fired but only one hit! Shades of MvR it only takes one bullet.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 06:19 PM

Gentlemen, here is the first valuation chart!
It contains the latest data as I received them from Jim_Attrill, who was so kind to make
a calculation sheet, which we all can use for easy valuation (see post #1 towards the bottom).

To save space, the older charts will get deleted, when new ones arrive. So for everyone who'd
like to collect and keep them all: download them to your own files, pls.

To see full size, please click on the chart!

Some values will change still, as Jim and I have to decide on one more point.
Also, a unit has to be completed. I will exchange it, when it's ready.


Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 06:40 PM

Simply , THANKS!
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 07:04 PM

looks great
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 07:10 PM

Valuation for victories was changed in post #1 - see graphic "DiD Records Chart".
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 07:13 PM

Great job, guys, thks ! thumbsup
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 07:14 PM

Thank you, guys - we are getting there.
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 07:26 PM

Extremely hard recon mission this time. Three newbie Aviatiks from FFA 33 departed Menen (or Menin) airfield in North Flanders´dawn, June 10th. Skies were cloudy, with rain menacing...



It was an apparently easy mission, when, after 12 minutes over No Man's Land taking the valuable photos of British positions, 2 DH2 scouts climbed ,slowly towards us, it was then when Aviatiks main drawback was painfully apparent. "What?", you may ask, well, simply put, it CAN´T defend itself from attackers coming from strict 6 or 5 o´clock, from under the tail, a single Lewis can make an Aviatik impossible to handle after some hits. The observer is in front of the pilot but can´t look over the wings, to sum up, I was a sitting duck, I was dead ....

Soon after, tracers were all around me, my engime got some hits, my petrol tank was praying for mercy, my pilot was shocked, my observer injured,...my screen full of blood spots,...


Pilot the plane or shoot? F6 or F10? For me it was, in a 5 seconds reaction,...shoot them down!! So I spent the majority of my Parabellum ammunition trying to stop those DH2s,...and eventually, miraculously,..the lead DH2, caught fire and spiralled, crazily towards mother Earth.

I managed to dive, desperately, towards the nearest airfield, whichever it was, and,....after some very scary , radical manouevers, landed the Aviatik beautifully, with my pilot bleeding almost to death,...but...ALIVE.

Once on ground, on my way to hospital, sharing the stifling space of the truck, in another stretcher with my observer, we realized that we may have downed that damned DH2 after all...



7 days in hospital and 2 more after recovery with observers NOT available in the squadron,...all in all, 10 days without flying,...SIGH...

We had our claim confirmed after all,...it was nice to know our effort wasn´t fruitless, it was a British ace!!!





And, after SO MUCH suffering,...a gauntlet,...Thanks,....I should say...




See you on the skies on the 20th of June,....(:( )


Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 07:38 PM

Ah, the first award - please report, everybody, when you received awards -
best take a screen capture of you pilot book, awards page.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 07:50 PM

Great report Arisfuser, and congratulations on your victory and award. It seem a lot of us are convalescing.
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 08:13 PM

THANKS guys, but 10 days without flying,...I thing it was too costly....
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 08:40 PM

Originally Posted By: ArisFuser
THANKS guys, but 10 days without flying,...I thing it was too costly....



yes but that makes these pilots soooo special
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 08:49 PM

The thing is,...I have to wait 10 (ten!) REAL days without flying in this challenge. I am moving to a new house at the end of the mointh, them holidays at the sunny beaches of Spain. (Minorca), my pilot is not going to be scouting the skies very much this summer...
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 09:13 PM

Originally Posted By: ArisFuser
THANKS guys, but 10 days without flying,...I thing it was too costly....

The lethality in WOFF is quite hard; that's why I said we should put the "guns accuracy"
to "less accurate" - I had hoped that the attackers would hit us less hard.
But it seems hardly to be possible NOT to get wounded, once there is a scrap.

I have started a new pilot, and the feller lived to tell the tale - but in hospital (until 13 June).

*****

PILOT NOTES
Bernhard Harms, Kasta 18, Pronville, Flanders
10. Juni 1916

On my first sortie with my new Staffel, Kasta 18, I had the honour to lead a flight of 2 Roland C.II and 2 Aviatik.
We climbed north 'till we hit the road Arras-Cambrai; then we followed it to Guémappe southeast of Arras.
Our recon area was between Guémappe and Croisilles, and we collected some good information and photos.
But then we came under attack - three Sopwith Strutter made any further reconnaissance impossible, and I fired a
green flare for "return to base".
Then I saw Holzmann's Aviatik in distress. A Sopwith peppered him from close on. I went to help, and I fired at the
Englishman and shot some pieces of fabric off his wings, which made him think of having tea time rather.
But Holzmann went down steeply and crashed - there was nothing I could do, and the helplessness felt very bad.
In the next moent though, I had no more time to think about it: another Strutter opened fire on us, and I pushed
stick forward and dived back over the lines. One round hit my shoulder, before my gunner could drive the Tommy off.
Now I have to remain quiet with a bandaged right arm for three days - which means: office work.
I hate the office stuff. I want to go back out and pay them back.

Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 10:13 PM

Better in the Wahlfisch than in the Aviatik !
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 11:09 PM

My pilot is not due to get a Roland until September - but he will been long dead by then!

Well done ArisFuser on getting the first award in the campaign.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 11:35 PM

Great chart Olham. I've gotten my career underway, and look forward to seeing my name on you're snazzy billboard. That's assuming I am still alive at the next reporting date (Wednesday).

It looks like you have increased the points for victories ... nice try, but you will not tempt me into an early death with your promises of glory (grin).
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/10/14 11:48 PM

Beautiful chart, Olham! It's a great summary of how everyone is doing!
Posted By: Adger

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 12:46 AM

Just wanted to say im enjoying all the reports and screenshots from this DID campaign.Im still a little busy at the moment with Rick,s "Albert Ball" challenge.Im still barely alive in that (ive spent most of my time in hospital) biggrin so good luck to one and all.P.S..... Olham and Jim Beautiful work guys thumbsup
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 01:46 AM

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Wow! Nice chart Olham and Jim, very nice indeed.

Excellent reports fellow DID flyers. Many thanks for sharing.

BTW Olham, would you like me to put together a campaign ribbon and/or a medal for this ongoing event? Let me know.

.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 02:17 AM

Thanks again Olham and Jim. Great Chart. This is a load of fun. Great work folks!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 07:05 AM

Using my trusty German dictionary it seems 'Ehrenbecher' means 'Ehren' honour + 'becher' cup, beaker, goblet.

So it is an Honour Cup. Well done ArisFuser thumbsup
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 09:26 AM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
BTW Olham, would you like me to put together a campaign ribbon and/or a medal for this ongoing event?
Let me know.

Thank you for compliments and your great offer, Lou - but you may know the saying:
"He who offers a little help, will get engrossed in the works!"
(was it from the "Old Testimony", "Lord of the Rings" or "A Thousand Tips For Restant Bachelors (1st Edition, Grumsby & Mouldsworth, Boston 1894)

Well, since you offered it - could you perhaps make 3 medals?
One for - say - 25 hours; one for 50 hours, and one for 75 and more?
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 10:13 AM

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I'll work on them this weekend Olham.

Artemus Burroughs just finished up his two assigned missions for today and now I have to go on my assigned mission, down to Iowa. Be back late tonight.

Fly smart everyone!

.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 10:24 AM

Good luck for your trip to Iowa, Lou - don't fly too low! wink
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 11:16 AM

Austustus Mueller mission today was bombing of enemy air field at Avesnes-le-Comte. Bombs hit enemy targets, but his was the only aircraft to make it back.

No flying due to the lack of pilots until 14 June!?
Posted By: gaw1

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 11:18 AM

Dang......wish I could have joined the fray....working till the end of the month....look forward to seeing this evolve....very cool eval setup!!
Posted By: Staniol

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 11:50 AM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
@Rick_Rawlings
Yep,amazing ! He survived a first plane crash in Feb 1916 with two broken legs and the stick breaking his jaw. Then later in May 1917 they had to move him to a place with a hospital nearby as he had to go there after each and every flight. Then a terrible car accident in October sends him back to hospital ! Don't know how he managed to fly after that until the end of the war !
And all this to finally disappear somewhere in the Atlantic with "L'oiseau Blanc" while attempting the first crossing...


His medical record is jawdropping (yeah, I know, sorry).
According to the aerodrome:

"Skull fracture, brain concussion, internal injuries (multiple), five fractures of the upper jaw, two fractures of lower jaw, piece of anti-aircraft shrapnel imbedded in right arm, dislocation of knees (left and right), re-dislocation of left knee, bullet wound in mouth, bullet wound in ear, atrophy of tendons in left leg, atrophy of muscles in calf, dislocated clavicle, dislocated wrist, dislocated right ankle, loss of teeth, contusions too numerous to mention."
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 11:58 AM

Originally Posted By: gaw1
Dang......wish I could have joined the fray....working till the end of the month....look forward to seeing this evolve....very cool eval setup!!


Nothing to stop you joining in now as it isn't a competition. Just start your campaign at today's date in 1916!
For example, Olhams first pilot (with first name starting with 'A' died and now he is on his second pilot with first name starting with 'B'. Add your name in the survey under 'other' and away you go!

Well it is a competition to see who can stay alive. I am getting good at running away to fight another day. So far forced down once, ditched (somewhere at sea) and survived one mission with no opposition. But it won't last ...
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 02:17 PM

I am going to create a pilot and join up within an hour.
I'm confused about what files must be submitted, where they are located, and how often I should submit these files
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 02:24 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I am going to create a pilot and join up within an hour.
I'm confused about what files must be submitted, where they are located, and how often I should submit these files


Join up on WOFF with a pilot for today's date in 1916 ie 11th June 1916. Make your flight and then report on the results here:

http://www.attrill.co.za/WOFFcampaign.htm

There are no files to submit - I do it all. But you do have to take note of your WOFF hours and victories so you can capture the correct info.

Put your id under "other" once you have submitted your data I will add you to the list with the others.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 02:40 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I am going to create a pilot and join up within an hour.
I'm confused about what files must be submitted, where they are located, and how often I should submit these files


Join up on WOFF with a pilot for today's date in 1916 ie 11th June 1916. Make your flight and then report on the results here:

http://www.attrill.co.za/WOFFcampaign.htm

There are no files to submit - I do it all. But you do have to take note of your WOFF hours and victories so you can capture the correct info.

Put your id under "other" once you have submitted your data I will add you to the list with the others.


It's too bad Lothar_of_the_hill_people is no longer with us. I'm sure he would have this whole process automated so all you would have to do is register and fly your missions with all data automatically captured. He was an amazing developer in his own right.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 02:43 PM

Thank you for your vote of confidence
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 03:12 PM

I have not flown 2 seaters much before this campaign. The BE2c is pretty much a death trap but I have to admit, while giving it another go with my second pilot, I have come to enjoy the old bird. As for total immersion, does anyone else find themselves taking to the gunner/observer? Mine is very sharp eyed. I do not look behind me because when he moves that gun there is trouble afoot. After putting myself in his shoes and knowing his field of fire, my chances of survival are better. Also, has anyone else noticed there eyes move?

Thanks again for such a great sim OBD,(Olham, notice I did not call it a game!), and thanks to Olham and Jim for a very wonderful experience. Loads of fun! Now if I can get out of the hospital and back into the fray.
Posted By: Rover_27

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 03:18 PM

I think I'm doomed to fly this trap for a long time!)
I requested transfer to Nieuport 11 squad 3 missions ago and I'm still not approved. Meanwhile, another mission is coming in BE2 and you know what - I'm starting to like it)) It's like a cleansing fire after being a ruthless and daring fighter pilot in previous lives.

Anyway, I'll send more detailed report at the end of the day, June 11

Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 03:26 PM

Hi Mfair, I fly FE2b's as a gunner in DID so far. Strangely enough I previously flew a BE2 in Campaign in 1915 and nothing much happened. The DID campaign in June 1916 is tougher so I joined in RFC18 flying FE2bs. As a useless pilot I am relying on the AI pilot who seems to be better than I could be (mostly)

But I did have a problem in one sortie when I could not get back from the rearward-looking observer's seat so I could not fly the plane. I eventually 'ditched' in the sea somewhere! I do tend to have this thing where I cannot get back to the pilot's seat for some reason...

But overall the sim is wonderful and I do not call it a game. What ganm would have me flying along happily one minute and frightened to death the next?
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 03:41 PM

OK Jim, Pilot is created in WOFF. I'll take him out in the Strutter and see what happens. He is in RNAS 4.

Wish me luck!

Oh, do I send in a report after every mission or weekly, or on certain days of the week?
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 04:14 PM

Send in a report whenever you have done a sortie. That means I will get your data. That is the best way. I then send the results to Olham and then he puts them here. That's how it works biggrin
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 04:23 PM

Albert Addleson has just gotten credit for his second kill and passed seven hours. The boys in RNAS-5 are an aggressive bunch; my flight leaders will divert from any mission to chase Eindeckers.

Every flight we get a beautiful view of the beaches at Dunkirk (and Ankor's cool wave effects!)


Then we rack up some flight hours droning towards the frontlines ...


Then my eagle-eyed companions often go chasing EIIIs. Can you spot the Eindecker in this photo? He's running east with four Strutters in hot pursuit.
Posted By: Rover_27

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 04:30 PM

Getting kills, are we?;)

I wish I started with the Strutter not BE2. I figure no kills are coming my way while I'm in this crate.
However, it really helps to savor the spirit of the DiD Campaign Revival.

Nice pics, 77_Scout. Btw, the Eindecker is quite spottable here
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 06:08 PM

Damn, I am becoming a pen-pusher with all the records valuation!
A way to survive the war, perhaps...

The latest chart is to be seen in post #1
I will replace it there again, when I have new records ready (Sunday evening, I guess).
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 07:16 PM

Thanks Olham!! The wait for my wounded pilot it's going to be ...hard frown
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
I do tend to have this thing where I cannot get back to the pilot's seat for some reason...


This is a pretty common problem that gets brought up every now and again. I got stuck once looking at the dashboard map position. Made flying interesting... To my knowledge, no one has ever locked down what causes it but it is definitely not unique to you...
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 07:23 PM

That looks fantastic, Olham!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 07:26 PM

Olham, I bet you are very busy with records!
I sent in first sortie info, may fly another later today.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: ArisFuser
Thanks Olham!! The wait for my wounded pilot it's going to be ...hard frown


I was about to say to you that you could take on another pilot with first name starting with 'B' but then I realised that that went against the rules of the Campaign. You can only do that if your first pilot is dead. Of course you could say that he was dead even if he wasn't in WOFF. But we are all flying gentlemen here in WOFF and do not tell any lies. As you capture your status on the web you can easily become the greatest pilot since sliced bread but that is not the point, is it?

I calculate your points etc exactly on what you capture and it is great to see where you are. There are of course no 'winners' in this campaign except those who stay alive. But it is nice to see the stats, no?
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 07:54 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Send in a report whenever you have done a sortie. That means I will get your data. That is the best way. I then send the results to Olham and then he puts them here. That's how it works biggrin

Jim, It could be lag time but my 1st pilot, Albert Andrews is dead. All the info on the chart is correct except the "dead" part. My reported new pilot, Benjamin Bloodworth, has flown 2 sorties. Like I say, could be lag time or I may have reported wrong. If so please disregard.

Thanks again for your work!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 08:01 PM

Guys, pls relax - we only make a proper chart twice a week; on Wednesday or Thursday,
and on Sunday or Monday. Just report your records Wed. and Sund. afternoon, and they
should get into the chart.

I don't have the time to check and make them new every day, and the 2-times per week
may hopefully let you act even more careful - you want to appear in the next chart
with your pilot still alive, right?
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/11/14 09:03 PM

Ok Olham, 2 times a week it is.
I know that I need to fly more cautiously, pilot is still active, somehow. He won't be if he keeps terrorizing those EIII's
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/12/14 06:47 AM

Originally Posted By: MFair
Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Send in a report whenever you have done a sortie. That means I will get your data. That is the best way. I then send the results to Olham and then he puts them here. That's how it works biggrin

Jim, It could be lag time but my 1st pilot, Albert Andrews is dead. All the info on the chart is correct except the "dead" part. My reported new pilot, Benjamin Bloodworth, has flown 2 sorties. Like I say, could be lag time or I may have reported wrong. If so please disregard.

Thanks again for your work!


Ok I will mark Albert as dead. Carry on with Benjamin.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/12/14 10:33 AM

To all Pilots

Please check your "Private Messages" each time you visit the forum (see top bar,
next to "My Stuff" you'd see a blinking envelope - click on it).

Jim_Attrill will contact you, when there are individual problems with your reports.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/12/14 02:22 PM

thumbsup

Back in the fight. So what happens, back on Flight Status and it rains ! sigh cuss2
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/12/14 02:34 PM

RNAS-4 is also grounded due to bad weather
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/12/14 02:46 PM

Glad to see there is another RNAS 4 pilot ! Howdy there ! smile2
Looks like I'm better off with the nurses ...
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/12/14 03:11 PM

Howdy Corsaire wave

Your better off with the nurses than in this leaky tent.

I'd like to advance through the missions and find out when the bad weather breaks. I wouldn't fly until that day arrives. Is that allowed?
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/12/14 04:16 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Thank you for your vote of confidence


Jim, if this post by you was in response to my post about Lothar, please do not take it as a slight! It was not meant to be a comment about your efforts. I am in no position to make derogatory comments about your work.
I was only reflecting on Lothar's skills and what he would have been capable of based on my experience with his work.

I apologize profusely if you took my comment as a slight on your work.

Best Regards;
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/12/14 04:28 PM

Rules updated in post #1: Ranks for Naval carreers added.

Guys, you can advance time, if you want to know, how long a period of bad weather will last;
it can be several days long, and you may want to make a short holiday trip.
But you must wait with any flying, until the real life date catches up with ingame date.

Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 04:37 AM

Jim
Yesterday Wednesday I sent in last sortie and demise of pilot Albert Fuchs. Don't see it posted and not sure if I should start another pilot yet. Thought Wed/Thurs was reporting days. Please advise.

Thanks
Royce
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 06:56 AM

Originally Posted By: cptroyce
Jim
Yesterday Wednesday I sent in last sortie and demise of pilot Albert Fuchs. Don't see it posted and not sure if I should start another pilot yet. Thought Wed/Thurs was reporting days. Please advise.

Thanks
Royce


I replied to cptroyces PM to me about this. But I thought I should tell all pilots that as soon as one pilot is DEAD then they should or can take on another of any Nationality and Squadron and Sector - the only difference is that the first name of the pilot has to increment to B or C etc and the date must follow on.

And your sorties start from the date that you take on your new pilot.

The reports will be published on Sunday and Wednesday as stated by Olham.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 08:58 AM

cptroyce and all:
after the demise of one pilot you can enlist another on the next day after his demise.
First name begins with the next letter in the alphabet, as Jim already said.

And remember: he has to fly the 3 hours on two-seaters again.

I said that we will have two charts, on Wednesday OR Thurday, and Sunday OR Monday.
It is quite a bit of work, so I cannot change it more often.

Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 10:17 AM

argghhhhhh bloody weather...gota wait till tuesday....oh well, off to the barber shop I guess
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 10:51 AM

Yeah, I wonder what they might have spent their time with in rainy weather.
For a day or two, the mess might be a nice place to sit and play cards, chat,
write a letter or listen to someone playing piano.
But a strain of bad days might have made them want to be able to fly into combat again.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 01:22 PM

Or you might consider that every grounded day is a day where you don't risk your life ! smile2
It's great to know my first day out of hospital will be the first flyable day from what I've been told of the weather forecast. This way I don't loose too much time on other competitors ! yep
In the meantime nurses take care of me...
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 02:01 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Or you might consider that every grounded day is a day where you don't risk your life ! smile2
It's great to know my first day out of hospital will be the first flyable day from what I've been told of the weather forecast. This way I don't loose too much time on other competitors ! yep
In the meantime nurses take care of me...


Send us a picture of one biggrin
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 02:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Yeah, I wonder what they might have spent their time with in rainy weather.
For a day or two, the mess might be a nice place to sit and play cards, chat,
write a letter or listen to someone playing piano.
But a strain of bad days might have made them want to be able to fly into combat again.


They probably flew their Wings Over Flanders Fields characters, wondering when in the world Pol and Winder were going to RELEASE THE DANG ZEPPELINS!!!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 02:46 PM

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Since 24 Squadron has not been flying for the last couple of days due to inclement weather, (a common issue in Flanders at this point it appears), I've had some time to work on the DID campaign medals.



Let me know what you think.

Cheers!

Lou

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Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
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Since 24 Squadron has not been flying for the last couple of days due to inclement weather, (a common issue in Flanders at this point it appears), I've had some time to work on the DID campaign medals.


Let me know what you think.

Cheers!

Lou

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Another splendid piece of work Lou! You have exceeded yourself again!! thumbsup
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 02:56 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Or you might consider that every grounded day is a day where you don't risk your life ! smile2
It's great to know my first day out of hospital will be the first flyable day from what I've been told of the weather forecast. This way I don't loose too much time on other competitors ! yep
In the meantime nurses take care of me...


Send us a picture of one biggrin




Me and my nurse !
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 02:58 PM

What I need is an LMF medal - I am getting good at avoiding combat but it won't last nope

And I hope I get wounded soon so I can meet your nurse wounded

Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 03:00 PM

Jim/Olham

Was just a bit unsure as how to proceed since I didn't see the "A"pilot listed as DID on the summary board. All's good now; new pilot is enlisted already.
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 03:02 PM

Lou

Those DID medals are terrific! Great idea.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 03:05 PM

Hi Lou, what we maybe need is a 'Dead' and bar medal. When one of your pilots is 'deceased' you get the medal, and get a bar for every one that follows! Maybe the medal should have a skull on it!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 03:10 PM

Just the luck, Rain today. No rest for the wicket , I was made Supply dog so off to the farmers for eggs and maybe cheese. Speaking of LMF heard a good one about a Fee driver (18 Sqn ?) being chased by 2 fokkers. seems his own flight did not engage they were 3 NM in the distance so the chap drove over under a flight of DH 2,s 29 Sqn) and they didn't engage as well. The chap made a forced landing (wrecking his bus) to finally escape.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Hi Lou, what we maybe need is a 'Dead' and bar medal. When one of your pilots is 'deceased' you get the medal, and get a bar for every one that follows! Maybe the medal should have a skull on it!


Hmmm, correct me if I'm wrong Jim, but I think the idea is to try and stay alive. winkngrin

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Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
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Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Hi Lou, what we maybe need is a 'Dead' and bar medal. When one of your pilots is 'deceased' you get the medal, and get a bar for every one that follows! Maybe the medal should have a skull on it!


Hmmm, correct me if I'm wrong Jim, but I think the idea is to try and stay alive. winkngrin


Oh, I do, I do! But I don't see my first 'A' pilot lasting much longer. It's tough out there for us newbie pilots. 6 sorties so far, forced down and ditched, for the rest I run for it!
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 03:41 PM

Based on the DID simming philosophy and mindset, sorties can get really intense..at least for me :>)

My first pilot died and crashed simply because one of the rear guns jammed. Two N 11's I think, sitting on our tail firing away but on on the side of the jammed gun. Between frantically switching guns and going in and out of rear view auto to try and get away, I completely forgot to which key I mapped the un-jam button! So here is my flyer being shot up, while pressure and confusion ruled..engine get hit, quits and down he goes..DID!
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 04:08 PM

Originally Posted By: cptroyce
Between frantically switching guns and going in and out of rear view auto to try and get away,


This will usually get you killed fairly quickly; just my opinion. The AI rear gunner is very good, and best to leave him to it. I stick entirely to the cockpit and fly the plane ... we are supposed to be re-living the pilot's experience after all. Besides not messing up the immersion by switching characters mid flight, I like to think that my skills are best used in maneuvering the plane to give the gunner a clear shot and dodge the enemy. Also ... no worries about pushing the wrong button (grin).
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 04:17 PM

I have come to expect such excellent work from you Lou. Fantastic. Also like the fact that you recognize the "Organizers and Contributor" as without them we would not be having so much fun!
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 04:19 PM

Scout

That is excellent advice..I am wondering why I didn't think of that! I rarely make the same mistake twice cheers
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 04:34 PM

Lou, these medals look just stunning! Excellent, beautiful works of art, Sir!

Now I don't know about a medal for the making of the campaign - I'd feel a bit embarrassed,
but maybe you didn't have me in mind, but the devs? They sure would deserve them!
Or perhaps - as you are a contributor - you wanted to make sure you would at least receive
this medal? Mmuahahahahaaa!!!
Me, I'd just be happy if I could make it to the 25 or 50 hours ones.
Thanks a lot for the fine work !
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 04:56 PM

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Olham, in campaigns I've worked on in past years it has been common practice to recognize all those who contributed to the organizing and running of the event. And yes I definitely had you in mind, along with Jim and the entire dev team, and no you should not feel embarrassed about receiving such recognition. It is well deserved.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 05:49 PM

Okay, Lou, I'll have one - if you have one yourself, too. Deal?
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 05:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Okay, Lou, I'll have one - if you have one yourself, too. Deal?


They would be nice to see as an avatar under your photos guys or at the bottom of your postings. Just a thought. With all the fine work put into the medals, it would be a shame to not have them constantly visible.

Oh, by the way Lou. knowing how judicious you are about small details, I'm sure you have an answer for my next question. Just what is the meaning of the colours on the medals ribbons?
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 06:15 PM

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OK Olham, deal.

Robert, I do have an answer. Three of the five countries' air services that flew on the Western Front had red, white, and blue in their markings. One had black and white, and the other had red, gold, and black. All are represented, with the amount of each color apportioned appropriately.

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Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 06:47 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
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OK Olham, deal.

Robert, I do have an answer. Three of the five countries' air services that flew on the Western Front had red, white, and blue in their markings. One had black and white, and the other had red, gold, and black. All are represented, with the amount of each color apportioned appropriately.

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Now why doesn't that surprise me biggrin
Thanks for the answer Lou.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 07:00 PM

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They call me MISTER Anal Retentive.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/13/14 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
They call me MISTER Anal Retentive.

Well, that qualifies you to work for a bunch like us - skinners, nitpickers and rivetcounters.
Mister A. N. "Al" Retentive for president!
(Oh, I forgot - you already are the president of the B.O.C., Lou!)
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 10:10 AM

After much mucking about I have found a way to stop the 'reasons for death' being asked for every pilot whether dead or not. There is a fault in the software that I have reported but I have managed to find a cludge that gets around the problem.

So, if your pilot is reported as 'dead' you will see an extra screen which asks the reason. The reasons I have put there are as follows:
Shot down by aircraft
Shot down by ground fire
Collided with enemy
Collided with wingman
Engine failure or fire
Structural failure
Crashed on landing
Hit Titanium Fence
I can't think of any others at the moment, but if you do, let me know.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 10:19 AM

Thanks for the maintenance, Jim!
You could even make it one shorter - 'hit a fence' is part of "crashed on landing" IMHO.
The fences only represent all kinds of deadly traps on unknown ground - like holes -
which could not be simulated. Planes often summersaulted on landing - even on their
own airfields. So the fences just stand for a "trap" we didn't regard - and it was
even a visible one, which we COULD have seen.

Then it might also be nice, if we listed a chart with the ways the aviators died.
But only when we have many more fallen pilots, of course.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 10:26 AM

I put the Titanium fences in as a joke of course. Pol gets hot under the collar when we mention them!

ps Ok, I've got a medal and clipped out the one I want. How do I put it on this site as an avatar? I notice nobody has avatars so maybe it is not possible.

BTW nobody seems to have flown yesterday at least nobody reported in.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 10:34 AM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Pol gets hot under the collar when we mention them!

...and you find he deserves that?

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
How do I put it on this site as an avatar?
I notice nobody has avatars so maybe it is not possible.

No idea, to be honest.

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
BTW nobody seems to have flown yesterday at least nobody reported in.

Yep - all flying was cancelled due to bad weather. Along the whole front, it seems.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 11:01 AM

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Jim, no avatars or sig block images allowed in this place, which is one of the things I do not like about these forums. Much too sterile and way too many pop-up ads. You can add your medal image to your posts over at CombatAce of course if you wish. Also, thanks for your continued work on the records keeping for this most excellent campaign.

Olham, quite right about the weather along the front right now. Another day of no flights so I am wrapping up the Flanders map for mid-1916 and will be posting it soon.

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Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 11:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Olham
[quote=JimAttrill]Pol gets hot under the collar when we mention them!

...and you find he deserves that?

No, I remember how funny I found the Titanium fence posts (pun deliberate) biggrin . I also ran into one.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 11:58 AM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
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Jim, no avatars or sig block images allowed in this place, which is one of the things I do not like about these forums. Much too sterile and way too many pop-up ads. You can add your medal image to your posts over at CombatAce of course if you wish.


Actually I have never understood why we all came here from CombatAce in the first place. I shall go there and repost the above one about the 'Dead' data. It seems silly to have to post something in two places.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 12:16 PM

Great to hear about the map, Lou - my next pilot (if "Bernhard" should fall) may fly
by the North Sea, with MFJ-1. That is an area which is best suited for learning to fly
after real maps only (LEVEL A), cause the nearby sea will always keep you certain about
where you are, and EVERYone should be able to find their home field - even me.

Jim, yeah, it is sometimes confusing to post things twice, and I also forget regularly.
But it had reasons, and now it is as it is.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 01:36 PM

Benjamin Bloodworth and his faithful O/G are out of the hospital feeling pretty good, until he finds out his transfer has not been approved, and all flights are cancelled. At least he will have one more day before he has to climb back into that death trap!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 02:05 PM

All flights are cancelled until Tuesday 17th! Oh well, I'll send the results to Olham who can publish them tomorrow - Sunday.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 02:10 PM

Yep, next flying only on June 17 - for Flanders South at least.
So we have plenty of time to do, what we would otherwise postpone or forget.

Jim, great, please send them - I'll work the chart out.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 03:16 PM

Rain Rain go away. 3rd day of the wet stuff. The C.O. had us fall out to act as weight on flat wooden doors being pulled behind a Horse It should smooth out the mud. Someone said that this will leed to a flat flying field when dry. Good for those bumpie take offs wot ?
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 04:41 PM


whoohoo

I thought this guy flew more talented than the others. The green paint job was new to me.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 04:48 PM



A medal for my efforts
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 05:02 PM

Eleven victories in two sorties - however grand that may have been, MudWasp - it makes me think about additional rules.

What I wanted to create, is a campaign which is all about realistic flying and realistic fighting or withdrawal,
and 11 victories in 2 sorties are not ANYwhere near that. Not your fault, MudWasp.
I'm not sure, what the max. victories were in a single sortie in WW1 - someone with better knowledge may come in here -
but I know that even a "doublette" (two victories in one sortie) was rather rare, even among the aces.

If we would leave this as it is now, the hunting for dozens of victories would start again,
and I am not willing to have this in the DiD Campaign.
We all know that WOFF sometimes allows that to happen, and of course it is not a player's fault if it does.
He may even have a fierce fight, where it's "me or them" - where he must shoot it out, cause they don't let him get away.
But we must find a way then, to get to more realistic numbers.


What I am thinking about is this - we could count per sortie:

1 - 3 victories = 1 victory
4 - 6 victories = 2 victories

and more than 6 victories count as 3 victories - more won't be accepted.

What do you others think about this proposal?
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 05:11 PM

Works for me.

It was do or die. The Sopwiths are also my favorite planes, Strutter, Pup, and Tripe.
At this time of the war my Stutter eats EIIIs, things change quickly though as time advances.

Being in "B" class, perhaps I should reduce regional air activity to light?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 05:44 PM

Not your fault, MudWasp - we could discuss setting "Regional air activity" to "light",
but then I'd like to hear more flyers' opinions.

I think the main point is, that we come to a result, that appears to look much closer
to the real life events back in that war. And since you may not remain the only flyer
with such a high score, we better all throw our 2 cents together about this.

So, what does everyone think about this dilemma?
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 06:26 PM

I don't think we should take away victories from any pilot. It is interesting historically that the Sopwith 1½ Strutter did not have a terrific history of kills either for the British or the French. It was certainly used more by the French.

If you want to set a max no of victories per sortie I can do that. The only problem is that my stats would not agree with WOFF. Maybe the number of points per victory could reduce with increasing victories. But it all becomes a menace to calculate.

How about 1-5 victories score 5 points each
6-10 victories score 4 points each
11-15 victories score 3 points each
16-20 victories score 2 points each
20 upwards score 1 point

I reckon I could do that somehow.

Or: as Olham says:
"What I am thinking about is this - we could count per sortie:

1 - 3 victories = 1 victory
4 - 6 victories = 2 victories

and more than 6 victories count as 3 victories - more won't be accepted.

What do you others think about this proposal?" (Olham)

No, we can't change the number of official victories but we can muck about with the number of points earned. So to change what you propose above, I could calc

1 victory in ONE sortie = 5 points
second victory = 4 points (9 total)
third victory = 3 points (13 total)
fourth victory = 2 points (15 total)
any more victories in ONE sortie = 1 point for each

So 11 victories in ONE sortie would give 5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 21 points (as opposed to 11 * 5 = 55 at the moment)

We have a while to make up our minds as it is pouring with rain outside burger
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 06:35 PM

What's that award next to my name? I haven't got or reported any.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 06:53 PM

Oh hell, it gets more complicated. Actually I can't calc victories per sortie as all I deal with are TOTALS. All I know is the total number of sorties and the total number of victories. This is getting very tacky. I could divide the victories by the sorties etc but I don't see what that would gain us.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 07:07 PM

I have no dog in the race, so don't put too much weight on my opinion, but, dude, that's pretty awesome! In one day, that guy shot down 1/23 of the EIIIs ever made! I think that's an occurrence rare enough to not have to worry about "ruling it up" I'm pretty sure that Fonck had two six kill sorties, which was the most I've heard of. You probably won't see too many of those, so I would just let it play out for a bit. I think that even Hellshade will tell you that sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes the bear eats you! Just my $.02


Edit: There's no I in team and apparently no e in Fonck...
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 07:40 PM

Don't worry about the calculation yet, Jim - we must trust all users/flyers anyway;
and so everyone could down-calculate his victories by my proposed rule, and report the result.
Which would then get valuated as before.

But let us just wait and hear some more flyers - we have the time; no flying until June 17.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 08:07 PM

In WOFF, the Strutter is perhaps the best Entente aircraft in 1916. And the Eindecker is completely useless.

You can kill Halberstadts and Albs too quite easily with the Strutter. In real life, the Strutters were toast when attacked by Albs. The Strutter was a very good two-seater, but it wasn't a super aircraft that dominated the air war in 1916.

Yes, Fonck had two six kill sorties, but that was exceptionally rare. Unfortunately it's all too common in flight sims. Games are games, real life is something else. We just have to accept that and make the most of it.

Damn weather! I've been waiting to enlist my DiD pilot, but he hasn't been able to fly a single mission yet.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 09:50 PM

René Fonck had 6 victories on May 9, 1918 and another 6 victories on Sept 26 (in two patrols each time)
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/14/14 11:16 PM

Leave everything as is but from now on if you get 5 kills in one sortie, fly home and celebrate. just an idea. Sooner or later if you stay in fights long enough you will die anyway.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 12:03 AM

Originally Posted By: MFair
Leave everything as is but from now on if you get 5 kills in one sortie, fly home and celebrate. just an idea. Sooner or later if you stay in fights long enough you will die anyway.


I'm surprised he had enough ammunition to down so many enemy craft!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 12:30 AM

Guys, I'd like to hear something about my proposal - or new ones. Please?
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 01:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

I'm surprised he had enough ammunition to down so many enemy craft!

While there is 500 rounds in the Vickers, I'm guessing some were pilot, some observer...I would love to see a video of that fight! Mudwasp, you need an Nvidia card with shadowplay or Fraps, son!

RR
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 04:42 AM

I have mine set on Light Air Activity, and I think that's a reasonable mandate.

I'd be against altering kill totals. It adds an unnecessary step, and it's not going to be easy to remember with everything going on.

One could always argue that their nation is inflating allowed claims. From what I read the British were particularly atrocious about this: I believe I read that there were 700 claimed/confirmed kills on Fokker D.VIIs in September 1918, and only 800 or so built.

Further, if we make a change that drastic (1 kill per 3 counts), but leave the 11 kills/2 sorties performance alone, that gives an unfair advantage to people who have been lucky up to this point.

If the idea of this trending towards a 'normal' high kill game is disturbing, then my suggestion is to wipe out the incentive (or wipe out its 'damage' to the scoring system.) The current rules effectively makes one kill worth five flying hours - or 4-6 sorties. If the goal of this campaign is survival, then maybe points need to be based only (or at least primarily) on sorties and hours.

I would be in favor of *sharply* reducing the points per confirmed.

Any change has to be retroactive however. Fortunately the campaign is young enough that won't cause much harm, but 'penalizing' players going forward will just make this stand out much more clearly on the scoreboard.
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 05:03 AM

I really don't have to worry about the current rule structure; if I get one victory..I pour my old Armagnac and toast myself.

However, it's seems unfair to handicap the victories. If someone is flying by the DID Campaign rules and WOFF presents the targets and they can shoot them down..that should be the end of it.

Perhaps if all the levels had to fly with "light activity" checked, then less AI would be presented and that may balance out a possible historically inaccurate kill score. Just my thought as Olham asked.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 09:15 AM

I agree to this, if you combine "light activity" and "less accurate" you should be closer to real conditions. I think we should count all victories. The ammo is largely enough, I remember downing an EIII with 3 hits !
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 09:37 AM

Firstly, we HAVE to SHOW all victories in our scoring table. Otherwise we get out of sync with WOFF itself. Personally (as a pilot with the grand total of one victory) I think we should show victories but not add them into the points earned.

My log book says I downed an Albatros DII with one hit! Mind you, they shot down all of B flight...
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 10:27 AM

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I have never liked using victories as a way of judging success in a WWI combat flight sim campaign as it generally proves very little and eventually leads to issues, just as it is here. Our RL counterparts were flying to gather information, range guns, and attack ground targets. Shooting at each other while flying simply evolved out of the primary roles. I've always felt there should be far more importance placed on completing missions and staying alive than on kills, and scoring should be set to reflect that. A kill should count as a single point in the grand scheme of things. Further, it should be split in the case of two-seater victories, 1/2 a point for the gunner and 1/2 a point for the pilot.

My advice would be to change the point values for kills as noted and increase the value for completed missions and flying hours. The 'aces' will still end up with an advantage anyway because of the medals and how they are awarded in the sim.

Just my opinion, based on many hours helping to organize and flying in online campaigns and facing this issue many times in the past.

Still, a great campaign, and I for one am looking forward to seeing how long folks can survive in it. yep

Cheers!

Lou

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 10:30 AM

Thank you guys for throwing in some ideas and opinions.

Seems most of you would favour to leave even totally unrealistic numbers of kills in;
and only cut off the victories from the points valuation?

Also we may set "air activity" to "light" in ZONES "Hotspot" and "Medium".
Not sure about the "Quiet" ZONE - they might never see any aircraft with "activity" set to "light".
There maybe "medium" would be better.

I hope some more flyers will add their thoughts about this.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 10:34 AM

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I don't know that I would mess with the air activity settings for the different zones Olham. More AI in the sky means more chances to die, eventually.

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Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 10:42 AM

Raf Louvert said: "I have never liked using victories as a way of judging success in a WWI combat flight sim campaign as it generally proves very little and eventually leads to issues, just as it is here. Our RL counterparts were flying to gather information, range guns, and attack ground targets. Shooting at each other while flying simply evolved out of the primary roles. I've always felt there should be far more importance placed on completing missions and staying alive than on kills, and scoring should be set to reflect that."

I see you agree with Lord Trenchard, the post-war saviour of the RAF. The French invented 'aces' and the Germans made much in their media of successful pilots. The RFC was against the hero worship of any pilot, thinking it detracted from the other guys who risked their lives doing reconaissance which was what the Army needed.

As was written in one recent book "War Story"? if a soldier really wanted to kill the enemy he should join the machine-gun corps.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 10:43 AM

Lou, I'd like mostly to know your opinion about my thoughts and proposal in this post:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3967786/Re:_The_"DiD_Campaign#Post3967786
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 10:53 AM

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Olham, I read through your original proposal, along with the others in this thread, and it seems to me the simplest would just be to count 1 victory as 1 point. You already have flying hours weighted more heavily and have taken zone activity in to account with that. If you still feel the victories might skew the whole thing towards the unrealistic than why not increase the point values for hours flown and missions completed as this would effectively cut victory values down. I should think this would be the easier way in terms of the spread sheet calculations and coding.

Just a thought.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 11:19 AM

Lou, my "tummy-ache" is caused by the totally unrealistic number of the victories themselves -
not their valuation problem.
It will be easy to valuate them differently, as you and others proposed.
That is definitely possible.

But how does it look in a "trying-to-be-realistic campaign", when flyers with 5 sorties pile
25 victories? That is the problem I have with the number.

But it seems, there is a majority that wants to leave the kill numbers untouched,
and I will follow the majority in the end.
I will wait 'till evening, if any more views and thoughts will assemble here.
Then I'll make a decision, and the chart.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 11:48 AM

Whatever the decision, I'm going to "light regional air activity" which is currently allowed in "B Class" realism. That is way too many encounters.

Olham if we go with your original proposal for counting victories, it will be easier on Jim if each DiD pilot reports the corrected number of victories, than it would be for him to do all the calculations.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 11:58 AM

Don't worry about the valuation - that is my least problem; Jim and I will find an easy way.

I still never hear anyone saying something to the fact, that 11 victories in 2 sorties
are looking totally unrealistic, and if we should change that.

Forget the valuation, guys - that is not the problem here.
My problem are very high, unrealistic numbers of victories.

Any ideas there, anyone?
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 12:12 PM

I wasn't the agressor looking for dogfights, the EIIIs bounced us and I was fighting for my life.
On the second sortie the flight I was in hadn't finish forming up when we were pounced upon. I narrowly avoided air collisions at least 3 times that afternoon.

I don't think 11 kills in one day, 2 sorties, is historically realistic. Easiest way for me to reduce the enemy encounters is to lighten the regional air activity.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 12:17 PM

Oh, on a different issue regarding flight time, some planes can have HUGE range and flight time compared to others. The Sopwiths I like to fly (with rotary engines) can spend way more time in the air than the German inline engine planes.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 12:21 PM

MudWasp, it is not your fault - please don't think I was complaining about you.
It is the unrealistic number itself.
Had I been in your situation, I would have fought it out the same way, I guess.
And I might have ended with the same high number then.

Not your fault. And I would even feel bad, like taking something away from you.
A different valuation would make the points more realistic, but the sheer number
would still be present.

We'll see, if anyone else comes up with an idea about that...
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 12:35 PM

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Aaaah, now I see what you are getting at Olham, you don't wish to see the unrealistic number of victories showing in the tally chart. More coffee was needed.

Since that is the concern, yes, you should do a devaluation scale as you propose. 3=1 is fine by me, and since this is your party Olham I say we go with your decision on this item.

I am concerned about the lack of credit given by the sim to the B/R pilots when they successfully complete their missions. As it stands now I believe the only way they will be awarded a medal is by knocking down a few EA. They should be getting recognized for getting the recce done, and/or bombing the target, and/or getting the guns aligned during an arty spot. Oh well, c'est la guerre.

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Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 12:36 PM

I don't think your complaning about me Olham, all is good.

I do think the 2 seat Strutter has a Huge advatage over EIIIs in WOFF. I've no clue if that is historically correct. Things change quickly though with the Halb and Albs coming into the air.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 12:38 PM

Lou, I agree with your opinion on Bombing and recon.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
Aaaah, now I see what you are getting at Olham, you don't wish to see the unrealistic number
of victories showing in the tally chart. More coffee was needed.

Yeah - without some cups of good coffee I'd often be lost.
So I have drawn me a map with the way from my bed to the coffee machine.
Sometimes I forget it though, to place it by my bed...

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
Since that is the concern, yes, you should do a devaluation scale as you propose.
3=1 is fine by me, and since this is your party Olham I say we go with your decision on this item.

Would that feel alright for everyone? I still find it the best solution.

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
I am concerned about the lack of credit given by the sim to the B/R pilots when they successfully complete their missions.
As it stands now I believe the only way they will be awarded a medal is by knocking down a few EA.
They should be getting recognized for getting the recce done, and/or bombing the target, and/or getting the guns aligned
during an arty spot.

Lou and all: give me a way to valuate all the two-seater stuff better, and I will do.
I never fly them, so I don't know, if you can easily see when you have accomplished a mission well?

I would actually like to employ you (without any pay - sorry 'bout that...).
You could think of a way to award 2-seater pilots with a set of historically correct medals.
I think you are the right man to come up with a rewarding system, that is plausible,
and that will be accepted by everyone else here. What do you say?
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 01:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham

I would actually like to employ you (without any pay - sorry 'bout that...).
You could think of a way to award 2-seater pilots with a set of historically correct medals.
I think you are the right man to come up with a rewarding system, that is plausible,
and that will be accepted by everyone else here. What do you say?


Discussed this very thing way back when:

Award Guidelines for the New OFF Medals


And here are samples of the medals that sparked the discussion:




Olham, feel free to use any and all of this in your DID Campaign if you like.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 01:25 PM

Gee, that is great! Thanks a lot, Lou!
But you are still employed (or I hope so) - can you think of a valuation for two-seater pilots?
When do they get which medals; how many sorties must they fly, or how many missions must be
accomplished (can this be seen by the player?).

If you could give me at least a first idea (since the flyers are not very far yet) for the
awards of, say, 25 sorties, 50 sorties - or however you want to do that.
I'd be glad if you could take this over.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 01:38 PM

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Olham, as I noted in the post I linked to from 2011, look to the charts and take the kill numbers for the late period of the War and double those amounts, letting those new figures represent completed missions. As example, flying DID as a British two-seater pilot in your current campaign, you would need to complete between 18 to 24 missions to be awarded your first gallantry medal. Again as noted, by using the same figures for all periods of the war and in all areas you will be simulating how it was considerably easier to do your job as a B/R pilot early in the War and in the quieter sectors than it was later on and/or in the 'hot spots'.

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Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 01:43 PM

Olham, wasn't it you who said we should keep it simple ? winkngrin
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 01:43 PM

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BTW Olham, I'd be willing to act as an adviser to the COC, (Clerk of Commendations), if you would like the assistance. I served as the COC for the 209 virtual WWI squadron for over four years so I do have some experience with this.

smile

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Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 01:44 PM

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Simple is good Corsaire. I'm a big fan of simple.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 02:03 PM

Yeah, I wanted it simple.
And correct.
And fair.
I wanted it simple, correct and fair.
And good-looking.
And easy to valuate.
So I wanted it simple, correct, fair, good-look...
Ah, I'll come in again!

(after the sketch "The Spanish Inquisition" by "Monty Python's Flying Circus" winkngrin )

Lou, that is great - you had the valuation charts already made!
Sorry for not looking into that link.

So well, let's keep it simple: Lou, I would like to promote you to be the CoC himself.
You just need to look over my chart once or twice every week, and tell me which medals
anyone would receive. I will then add them into the chart, before I publish it.
an you live with that promotion, Sir?

I knew it would be hard to keep it simple - but it was worth trying...
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 02:08 PM

So this means we shouldn't take into account anymore the in-game awards ?
Then you need to add a way to declare successful missions for two seaters ... you will soon need a team to run the thing ! smile2
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 02:32 PM

Yeah, that was the remaining question...

Maybe Lou would need assistance. What about you, Corsaire?

Well, honestly, I don't know HOW to valuate the two-seater guys;
but I DO think that they SHOULD receive a better valuation,
regarding rewards.
Maybe we must go after their flying hours - successful or not?
Posted By: samba_liten

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 02:36 PM

I've had a busy week at work, so limited time to fly, but this weekend i had some spare time. I've caught up to today's date, somewhat aided by 3 days of rain and no flying. Old Alois is still alive, still flying 2 seaters, but has transferred to a unit flying Roland Waalfisch.





BTW, love the medals! Gorgeous!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 03:12 PM

More rain, No flights, No dry clothes. I am thinking of transferring to Sea planes and shipping out to Sea. The Post came in and I got a letter from Jumbo over at 18 Sqn. Hq has been using them to patrol the lines. Who thinks up these things ? A heavy FE 2b as a fighter ? The Kicker, Before the rains, He got a confirmed kill or rather his gunner got the Fokker as he heaved the bomber around as a fighter.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 03:22 PM

samba_liten, any "catching-up flying" is NOT according to the rules.
We ONLY fly the day we just have in real life.
If you missed several days, you must advance time to the actual date.
If there is no flying then, due to rainy weather, you must wait again.
C'est la vie.
Please read the rules.
Posted By: samba_liten

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 03:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
samba_liten, any "catching-up flying" is NOT according to the rules.
We ONLY fly the day we just have in real life.
If you missed several days, you must advance time to the actual date.
If there is no flying then, due to rainy weather, you must wait again.
C'est la vie.
Please read the rules.


Hum...That makes my taking part a fairly pointless exercise, as i have a similar schedule next week, followed by vacation in the country. Oh well.
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 04:49 PM

Interesting thread as everyone is trying to come up with a good, balanced simulation to historical experience.

I think Lou has come up with some great points on valuations. Clearly, valuate sorties and flying time well above victories and not emphasize kills. This was I think Olham's original intention.

As to generating less EA, I usually fly in a quiet zone when flying WOFF anyway. My setting was on medium activity and I fly mostly 1916. The encounters I thought were quite realistic. I fly with no aids, so I may have been missing a/c. But there were days on end when no encounters occurred; and then several in a row when I saw something or an EA attacked. I typically was not the aggressor because I wanted to see how long I could survive..as I would do in R/L. When DID was created this was a good fit for me.

Using light activity setting in high and medium zones might solve the problem of over emphasis on encounters and create a more realistic balance.

I'm fine though with whatever the final structure is..DID is a terrific idea for WOFF.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 05:37 PM

Sorry, samba_liten, but that's part of the rules.
OTOH this campaign will go over a very long time (the rest of this year, plus the next two.
You could fly little, and still have great points, if you don't die.
Just tell me, before I make the chart: will you carry on, or not?

Posted By: samba_liten

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 06:00 PM

I'll bow out of the scoring system and carry on at my own pace. Thanks.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 07:04 PM

Salut

Well this is a sim, and we have to take what is given to us from the computer. I fly "B" in medium, even with other pilots, and thus far on the Somme front if I bump into the Hun he is either in 2-4 EIII's, or an F'en armarda, when I turn tail and run for it.

My personal thought on the campaign was that I am flying to "live" and tell the grandkids about it. I actually do feel bad about leaving my AI Comrades to thier fate sometimes, but then they do some dumb things at times.

Perhaps we could consider that the 2-seater missions were/are important just as much stopping them too. Thus the situation is created that straight dogfights don't realy mean much. If your in a Scout squadron and you can prevent a 2-seater from doing his work or making sure he don't get home then perhaps you should get more pts for that. And if your the 2-seater then every successful mission should also get more pts. etc....

The fact is, that the Sim will credit us with kills and award medels regardless how we fly this Campaign.




correction..I was wrong.
Dogfights actually do stop the enemy scouts from getting at ones own 2 seaters....if you win that is
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 07:07 PM

AT LAST - THE UPDATED "DiD Campai[u]gn Pilots' Records Chart"[/u]

So far, I have not added the victories into any formula, neither for POINTS nor for ENDURANCE.
The victories stand for themselves right now. We may later think of a way to valuate POINTS
and ENDURANCE with the victories included. That could still be done, as EVERYone would benefit
from that in the same way.

All German flyers with 1 or more victories - please check your pilot book (3rd or 4th page), if you
have received an "Ehrenbecher". If you haven't - make sure if your victory was already confirmed or not.

Edit: the updated chart is in post #1






Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 07:13 PM

samba
I have only had time for 3 flights so far and won't be able to fly again until July 1 or so. No big deal. I'm flying to try and survive as long as possible and I'm not really competing with others, but rather myself.

My hours are wrong on this chart. My hours are all medium hours and my total hours should be 3.43. No need to change it on this round Olham but I wanted everyone to be clear about where I'm at. Thanks again for all your hard work.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 07:19 PM

That was so badly wrong, that I corrected it at once.
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 07:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
That was so badly wrong, that I corrected it at once.


You're the best...thanks Olham!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 08:36 PM

More corrections made - JFM was missing completely; sorry, Jim!
Maeran's "Ehrenbecher" re-captured by German special forces - we need the silver for ourselves!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Yeah, that was the remaining question...

Maybe Lou would need assistance. What about you, Corsaire?


I offered assistance if needed on my first post at Combat Ace ... I have some free time if I can be of some use.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/15/14 09:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Shiloh
samba
I have only had time for 3 flights so far and won't be able to fly again until July 1 or so. No big deal. I'm flying to try and survive as long as possible and I'm not really competing with others, but rather myself.

My hours are wrong on this chart. My hours are all medium hours and my total hours should be 3.43. No need to change it on this round Olham but I wanted everyone to be clear about where I'm at. Thanks again for all your hard work.


I'm with you on that Shiloh! I like to "compare" how I stack up with the other pilots, but the real contest is with the guy that was in the seat the last time. I compete enough in real life.
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 03:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Shiloh
samba
I have only had time for 3 flights so far and won't be able to fly again until July 1 or so. No big deal. I'm flying to try and survive as long as possible and I'm not really competing with others, but rather myself.

My hours are wrong on this chart. My hours are all medium hours and my total hours should be 3.43. No need to change it on this round Olham but I wanted everyone to be clear about where I'm at. Thanks again for all your hard work.


samba:

And I'm out until for another two weeks yet because of my glitch earlier when I was trying to get my transfer to go through. I don't see only getting a few flights per week as a penalty in a campaign like this. Quite the opposite probably.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 06:44 AM

I've been away for a few days ... quite a bit of turmoil to digest. I'll throw in my thoughts, for what they are worth.

Two five-kill missions in a row is ridiculous, as already well stated. Hopefully that was a really weird fluke. Maybe let's not panic unless it starts happening on a regular basis.

I will suggest that flying "full real" is one good cure, as you don't magically see all the enemy planes ... you get into less fights and when a fight starts the enemies tend to disappear quickly. I know, I know, I am a nut about this and do go on about it (sorry), but if you want realistic results then maybe turn off the "magical powers" and rely on eyeballs alone?

MEDALS: WOFF awards us medals, so I suggest lets not make more work and complication with a whole new medal system. Keeping it simple sounds good to me. I am flying two-seaters and don't care about medals; if I want medals I can switch to fighters (which I don't plan to do, as I am here to survive hours and missions).

VICTORY POINTS: The idea of DID was to reward hours survived and not promote hunting, so I am not a fan of giving out big points for victories or medals. One point for a victory seems about right.

AIR ACTIVITY: Flying in a 'medium hot' region (Flanders North) I have so far run into Eindeckers almost every flight with 'regional air activity' setting at medium. That's too much action, so turning down regional air activity a notch as mentioned seems to be an idea worth looking at.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 08:22 AM

Corsaire, I will come back to you, when help is needed.
Maybe the two-seater valuation and rewards would be a field for you.
I'll have to go through the stuff from Lou and see what we can do.

TO ALL PILOTS - VICTORIES

Victories will have to be counted by each pilot according to this list:

1 -3 kills per sortie = 1 victory
4 - 6 kills per sortie = 2 victories
more than 6 per sortie = 3 victories

Please just count them accordingly, and then report the final number.
Thanks, all!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 04:09 PM

That will work, Olham.

I'm confused about medals now. My DSO doesn't appear on the DiD graph/chart
Is there a reason for that or is it an oversight?
I don't understand what Lou is doing regarding DiD, non WOFF awards. Please clear that up for me.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I don't understand what Lou is doing regarding DiD, non WOFF awards.


That makes two of us, MudWasp. biggrin

I assume, (I know, never assume), that Olham is wanting to present awards in DID that follow more realistic guidelines, which is why I pointed him to the discussion from several years ago. Perhaps the in-sim awards won't be tallied at all and only DID campaign honours will be counted. Again though, it is all sounding less and less simple. And like Scout, I'm a big fan of simple.

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Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 04:55 PM

While waiting to enlist my pilot (damn weather!) I'd like to add my opinion to this discussion about awards. WOFF already has a pretty decent awards system, so I'd love to see this kept as simple as possible in DiD. IMO, there's no need to make it any more complicated than the nice-looking DiD medals Lou has made and which will be awarded for hours flown. The rest of the awards should come from WOFF.

If you wanted to make it completely historical, the awards system of the German Empire alone would cause quite a headache for anybody trying to model it as realistically as possible.

Let's keep it simple!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 05:03 PM

Well, if it is possible for us to valuate the sorties, hours and results, I would
want to ignore the medals in the mission results, and go after the more realistic
chart you had published in 2011, Lou.

If that is an impossible task - well, then we'd have to accept, what we get from WOFF.
Simple or realistic - what does everyone prefer?

I guess I should make another poll for such questions, right?
Can't do it right now - Germany is playing vs Portugal in the World Cup in Brazil.
Maybe later!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 06:54 PM

POLL ABOUT THE AWARDING SYSTEM

For the questions about the awarding system, I have made a smal poll for all to vote.
The voters will this time remain anonymous; so please, all: vote like you really feel
about the questions.

The poll is to be found here:

http://combatace.com/topic/83084-did-campaign-revival-award-system-please-vote/#entry667651
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 07:04 PM

A. Snodgrass.
Sgt, Rfc.
5 Sqn. B Flight.


6/16/16
Rain and its heavy at times. The bright spot, the Met man has promised a high pressure zone moving in tonight so clear weather is in the Forecast. He must be right becuase I spotted 2 lorries coming up the muddy road from the bomb dump. winkngrin
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 08:49 PM

Voted.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 10:30 PM

Voted too !
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Maeran's "Ehrenbecher" re-captured by German special forces - we need the silver for ourselves!


They also raided the drinks cabinet! I'm sure that's against the rules of war.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/16/14 11:14 PM

Naw, Maeran - in war and in love everything is allowed.
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 12:34 AM

That's okay, Maeran. We'll just steal all their breweries so the Hun can't make any more beer. They'll be begging for mercy in a week.

Voted.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 04:37 AM

I'm sorry for creating problems
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 04:54 AM

Mud

You didn't do anything wrong..the sim presented generated AI targets and you shot them down. Period.
Nothing to feel responsible for at all..IMO
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 05:37 AM

True.
Straight Up !

I fought for my life as well all of "B" Flight
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 05:40 AM

I'm turning down regional flight activity to Light from Medium.

If things too much like flying FSX, I'm back to Medium
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 06:27 AM

Mud: I've been playing in that time frame as practice. There isn't that much activity on light, but it's definitely there.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 08:41 AM

Web Capture update - if you get WOUNDED it will ask how many days you will be in Hospital. You don't have to answer and it is just out of interest. You don't get points for chatting up the nurses!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 08:47 AM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I'm sorry for creating problems

You didn't create them, MudWasp - you only made them visible.
It would have been the same with any other flyer.
I think we are on a good way to improve our DiD Campaign quite a bit.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 10:49 AM

FLYING WEATHER NEWS

Today it seems the bad weather phase is over for most parts of the Western Front.
But beware, everybody - after a long pause you better be careful.
Get into the flying again, and don't risk your aircraft and your comrades' lives.

For all the best flying - come back in one piece, everyone!
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 11:07 AM

I'm sad for other fliers yet happy myself about this bad weather. I haven't been able to fly lately due to RL but come July, I can fly almost every day. Be safe and keep your eyes open.
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 12:33 PM

I have been waiting seven days to be able to fly again, still 3 left, it's a looong wait,....:(
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 12:47 PM

Without giving any names, at the moment we have 13 active pilots and 5 wounded (one from today) and 3 deceased. Of course you can take on a new pilot once your first one has kicked the bucket. I am going to fly today and try to stay alive as that seems to be difficult (as it was in RL). "Best of luck chaps" (to the English pilots) "Hals und beinbruch" (to the German fliegers).
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 01:01 PM

German naval air service and their ranks are missing from the site, Jim. I tried to report my first flight, but I couldn't.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 01:37 PM

I'm out of hospital and allowed to fly today, hope I don't go straight back, although I wouldn't mind some more days with one of the nurses there... (unfortunately love stories don't bring any points yet smile2)
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
German naval air service and their ranks are missing from the site, Jim. I tried to report my first flight, but I couldn't.


I didn't know about them. Please give the ranks. For the moment capture other German ranks and I will fix it later....

Remember that rank makes no difference to the points you get. Es macht nicht.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 02:52 PM

Benjamin Bloodworth, Bombing front lines:
A very lazy flight. Made it to the target and dropped our eggs and headed home. Not a Hun in sight. That is until I was making my final approach to the airfield and my observer swings his gun over my head! What the hell! An EIII had followed us back to base and I never saw him. A few bursts from my gunner sent him away and we were ready for breakfast. Final report was our bombs did some good.

Afternoon flight saw us bombing front lines again. Just before dropping our bombs I can see 4 Fokkers headed our way. I was hoping that the Nieuports could hold them off so we could get this bloody mission over with! We dropped our load and I found myself alone. I put her in a steep dive and headed home with as much speed as this old bird could stand. Upon landing I was told all others in my flight had crashed and 1 pilot and 1 Observer was killed.

What about my bloody transfer! Still not approved I am told. Well at least I have lived today. I might sneak into town tonight and see whats about at the local tavern.

I am flying no labels, compass, altimeter, and speed, in the corner, with the little ammo, fuel, dohickie thing on. I fly by map unless I get totally lost and then bring up the TAC. I also use the TAC to see what altitude I am "supposed" to be flying at when I am leader. Class B as far as this Campaign is concerned.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 03:17 PM

17.06
A reco flight of 3 planes for my return from hospital. Over zone our main trouble was a huge cloud sitting right above our objective (ground troops) which made difficult taking good photos.
Not wanting any nasty surprise again, I did a "Crazy Ivan" on the way back and spotted a lone EIII following me. This time I took the initiative, dragged him over Furnes airfield to have some AAA assistance and after I put some rounds in his plane he called it a day and flew back to his lines.
We'll see what tomorrow will be...

Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I'm turning down regional flight activity to Light from Medium.

If things too much like flying FSX, I'm back to Medium


As a regular FSX flyer and proud owner of two freight airlines, I found myself offended and already called my lawyer ! smile2
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 03:21 PM

@ MFair
"I am flying no labels, compass, altimeter, and speed, in the corner, with the little ammo, fuel, dohickie thing on. I fly by map unless I get totally lost and then bring up the TAC. I also use the TAC to see what altitude I am "supposed" to be flying at when I am leader. Class B as far as this Campaign is concerned."

The good thing about being flight leader is that you can decide for yourself your flight path and altitude following local weather conditions and enemy positions. Don't trust the brass on this, these guys have always been sitting in an office ! smile2
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 03:25 PM

I agree corsaire about being flight leader. You are able to fly high and keep the altitude which is the only way I find you can last for any period of time in two-seaters.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 03:28 PM

A. Snodgrass.
Sgt, Rfc.
5 Sqn. B Flight.


Bloody shambles, Bombing mission to Ghistelles A.F.: B Flight had only 2 machines Serviceable for the bombardment and A flight could only put up 2 for a recon down by loos. We picked up our escort of 4 N-11 ( RNAS 3 Sqn) and headed out. The Scouts got tangled with a flight of fokkers then another flight was barring our flight 2 fokkers came down on us after hitting the N-11,s. Nothing to do but pickle the bombs and run for it.



upload pic
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Beanie
I agree corsaire about being flight leader. You are able to fly high and keep the altitude which is the only way I find you can last for any period of time in two-seaters.



Beanie and Corsaire, Yep, height is life. I use it when I am meeting escourts or as a scout meeting recon. I do not want to be at 10,000' looking for aircraft that are 5000'. I use the TAC so I know "about" what altitude they will be. Maybe this is a "wishlist" item for the briefing that tells you what altitude they will be flying.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 03:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I'm sorry for creating problems

You didn't create them, MudWasp - you only made them visible.
It would have been the same with any other flyer.
I think we are on a good way to improve our DiD Campaign quite a bit.


Quite right, and the problem made visible is that WOFF is too easy, at least on the settings some of us are using.

I suspect that one possible 'too easy' issue is that the Eindeckers are just too fragile; it seems that only a few hits will finish them off in many cases. The only solution there is to have the developers take a second look at the damage model, and that probably isn't going to happen as they are too busy.

The other 'too easy' problem is that people are using 'magic powers' such as labels and gun-sight views. The cure for that is to limit yourself to what you can see from the cockpit view with TrackIR and your naked eyeball. If we don't want video-game-style results, then we shouldn't playing WOFF with video-game aids and settings. The solution is not to change the accounting of kills, but to make kills harder to achieve.

p.s. We should all double check that we don't have 'AI always engages' checked in the workshop, as that could trigger fight-to-the-death dogfights with a high number of kills.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 05:08 PM

well, I'm flying the Be2 and my butt has been handed to me twice now by EIII's. Its cause I cant fire forwards and the gunners arc is very small, so small that the Hun gets a perfect shot on me. I have noticed that if you can hit an EIII smack on the nose at long range they do tend to turn away and call it a day.

Flying aircraft like the pup or sopwith strutter is just tooo easy, my opinion. Perhaps this should of been run a little differenty in that you start as a gunner (5hrs) then as the pilot (5hrs) and then go to scouts. The link to the old DID is still working and there it was 17 hrs as a 2 seater pilot before being excepted for scout training. I'm not sure of the policy the Huns used as to who went where unit wise, but it seems the RFC ones went to a depo in France, like St.Pol, and it was more of a lottery as to which unit you ended up with. Maybe a random start could do this in the future.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 05:32 PM

No more complications, lederhosen - I am already notorious for making too many rules. RTFM
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 05:59 PM

reading

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm there are rules ?
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 06:11 PM

I did take random assignment. Landed me in a BE2. Since I'm flying A standard, this has meant I haven't flown a mission yet where I haven't lost anyone. Today's flight saw us on artillery spotting duty near Neuve Chappelle. We had an escort assigned to us, but they collided with one another 5 minutes after meeting up! Attacked by 2 EIIIs as per usual and only lost one wingman. This is sadly my second most successful mission to date!

How I long to have a machine I can fight back in!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 06:25 PM

Maeram: I have you flying for the Germams and I didn't think they flew BE2's ??????
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 07:07 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Maeram: I have you flying for the Germams and I didn't think they flew BE2's ??????


It's just very...very random! biggrin
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 07:12 PM

13 squadron RFC. It is correct on the chart.
Although our rate of attrition does make it look like I will earn that Iron Cross back shortly.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 07:20 PM

Maeran - my latest from you is Andrew Anderson RNAS 4 Sqn. Your previous was Algernon Didsworth 13 Sqn RFC. Which are you flying?
I normally take the latest capture.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 07:38 PM

Maeran, you're not the only one who is getting pestered by fragile, but nevertheless cheeky single-seat kites!
We are always getting chased by Nieuports - a real nuisance!

PILOT NOTES
Offzstv Bernhard Harms, Kasta 18, Pronville, 17. Juni 1916

Two sorties flown today. My first after getting wounded. But I had not missed anything
much - the whole Staffel had remained grounded for daysdue to the very bad weather.

07:00 h Takeoff for an art. spot. mission SE of Arras. Ten minutes into the flight
I had to return to base - my engine lost more and more performance.
Fired a yellow flare for Hansmann, to take my flight over.

14:30 h Takeoff for another art.obs. mission east of Mercatel.
Huge white cumulus clouds, but perfect vision.
Zeidler led the flights of 3 Roland C.II and 1 Aviatik (Hensler).
All seemed fine, we made our observations and returned to Pronville.
But on the way home, 15 km northeast of our base we got attacked by 2 Nieuport 11.
We Rolands pushed and dived away, and so they attacked the single Aviatik.
I was not the leader and could not do anything, but I felt we had badly left Hensler alone.
He made it back, but his observer was lightly wounded.




Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 08:20 PM

The extremely lucky Flight Sub-Lt Anderson belongs to Mudwasp. I last submitted a report on Sunday 8th.
Algernon Didsworth is still alive, if a little stressed (has anyone noticed what sounds like a machine gun in the normal BE engine sound?).

My guess would be that it is easy to click the wrong name on the form.


Hensler is lucky or very good.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 08:34 PM

Jim, in the chart you had sent me last before I made the graphic, Maeran was rightly in 13 RFC.

Maeran and MudWasp, if you see something wrong with your records, pls report.
Maybe as you said - wrong name clicked for one submission?

We can always put most everything back right again (or so I hope...)
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/17/14 11:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Corsaire, I will come back to you, when help is needed.
Maybe the two-seater valuation and rewards would be a field for you.
I'll have to go through the stuff from Lou and see what we can do.

TO ALL PILOTS - VICTORIES

Victories will have to be counted by each pilot according to this list:

1 -3 kills per sortie = 1 victory
4 - 6 kills per sortie = 2 victories
more than 6 per sortie = 3 victories

Please just count them accordingly, and then report the final number.
Thanks, all!


In case I get out of this BE, do I understand that we are using this formula for reporting victories?
Thanks
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 06:59 AM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Originally Posted By: Hasse
German naval air service and their ranks are missing from the site, Jim. I tried to report my first flight, but I couldn't.


I didn't know about them. Please give the ranks. For the moment capture other German ranks and I will fix it later....

Remember that rank makes no difference to the points you get. Es macht nicht.


The German naval ranks in WOFF are, from lowest to highest: Flugmaat, Oberflugmaat, Flugmeister, Vizeflugmeister, Oberflugmeister, Leutnant zur See, Oberleutnant zur See.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 07:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Originally Posted By: Hasse
German naval air service and their ranks are missing from the site, Jim. I tried to report my first flight, but I couldn't.


I didn't know about them. Please give the ranks. For the moment capture other German ranks and I will fix it later....

Remember that rank makes no difference to the points you get. Es macht nicht.


The German naval ranks in WOFF are, from lowest to highest: Flugmaat, Oberflugmaat, Flugmeister, Vizeflugmeister, Oberflugmeister, Leutnant zur See, Oberleutnant zur See.



Which one is the equivalent of 'Sergeant' in British ranks? I will not add on ranks lower than that even if they exist. That would be the DID Campaign starting rank.

What is the Naval Air Service called in German? And what is the German air arm called in German? I want to get the web pages as accurate as possible.

Oh, I have just checked and apparently Flugmaat is the equivalent of Sergeant Major.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 07:58 AM

Olham has decreed that German naval aviators start as Vizeflugmeister (see the first page of this thread), so that's what I've done.

The German naval air service is called Marineflieger.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 08:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
Olham has decreed that German naval aviators start as Vizeflugmeister (see the first page of this thread), so that's what I've done.

The German naval air service is called Marineflieger.


Oh, I called it Kaiserliche Marine so maybe Kaiserliche Marineflieger is better?
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 09:03 AM

I'm not sure about their official name. Marineflieger is the one that I've seen used most commonly. There's also Marinefliegerkräfte, but that seems to be less common.

The army aviation is easier. Before October 1916, they were known as Fliegertruppen, after that Luftstreitkräfte.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 09:10 AM

http://www.frontflieger.de/2alb.html#marine

have a look
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 10:23 AM

Well, it's complicated with Kaiserliche Marineflieger.

The aviators seemed to have been "Flieger des Marine-Corps Flandern".

Generally, the units were "Marine-Feldfliegerabteilungen".

The fighter-units were "Marine-Feldjagdstaffeln".
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 11:00 AM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I'm turning down regional flight activity to Light from Medium.

If things too much like flying FSX, I'm back to Medium


As a regular FSX flyer and proud owner of two freight airlines, I found myself offended and already called my lawyer ! smile2



I spend too much time fly FSX too, no virtual airlines though, mostly just bush planes in the mountains.

Switching to light regional activity seems to have worked. First flight was recce, the N11 fighter escort from RNAS-3 kept the EIIIS off our arse. Second was bombing front lines, odd that there were clouds over target on an otherwise clear day. I was leader and flew over target 4 times, couldn't see what I supposed to bomb, then heard my 2 mates bombs whistling so I released my bombs too. Mine hit very close to theirs, but didn't destroy anything. A lone EIII was likely trailing us home, I saw flak from my airfield region when my boys were landing and I flying high above. I slowly dove in the Strutter, that is a plane to be very carefull in when diving, engaged and downed him with 3 bursts. He landed some hits on the initial head on, but not enough to save his butt.

It's a rainy morning here in IRL and I intend to fly one or two missions today. I'll submit reports after. Checked workshop settings, "enemy always engage" was not turned on. Main reason I'm using "B level" is for the ingame map and auto mixture, staying in the cockpit with Track IR.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 11:35 AM

TO ALL PILOTS

Please make your sories for today, if you have the time, and then send your
records via Jim_Attrill's form this evening. I will then make a new chart tomorrow.

Seems some have reported unclear data to Jim.
If a pilot falls, you need to report his final data on that day;
and you can only start a new pilot the next day (or later).

So all who had a fallne pilot after the last chart:
pls report the final data (sorties; hours; victories) here, if you still have them.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 12:15 PM

The first DID pilot has switched to a fighter squadron. RAF_Louvert is now in 24 Squadron - an elite bunch of aces. My records show he had 5.15 hours with 15 RFC before transferring which is perfectly within the rules.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 12:30 PM

.

At the moment Sgt Burroughs may be wishing he'd stayed with 15 Squadron as his first mission yesterday after the seemingly endless rain-outs had him leading an escort of five Quirks across the mud to bomb an enemy aerodrome. As they were returning he and his wingman had to battle a trio of Einies, and while they were successful in protecting the B/R buses young Artemus was forced down with a dud engine and landed on the bad side of the mud. He is currently a guest of the Kaiser but is crafting a most clever plan and his escape is imminent, (he'll be back in camp by Thursday).

Fly smart everyone!

.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 01:08 PM

That's nothing! biggrin

I joined MFFA 2 yesterday and have flown two missions. Out of the original six Aviatiks and twelve pilots and observers of the Abteilung, I'm the only one left now. All the others have been shot down.

The unit has been grounded until June 21, when we should have enough new planes and pilots to carry on with the madness.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 01:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
That's nothing! biggrin

I joined MFFA 2 yesterday and have flown two missions. Out of the original six Aviatiks and twelve pilots and observers of the Abteilung, I'm the only one left now. All the others have been shot down.

The unit has been grounded until June 21, when we should have enough new planes and pilots to carry on with the madness.



Like my flight of 5 FE2b's of which four were shot down and I crashed trying to get away!

Hasse, please capture your data for use in the latest chart. I have nothing for you so far.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 01:20 PM

I've sent the data. Hopefully it got through!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 01:52 PM

Yes got it. Albrecht Niemann. MFFA2. I will add you in as an ID in the list to make it easier.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 03:07 PM

My morning sortie was recce. Jake was leading our B-flight of 4, 5 planes from A-flight sent to assist, and 2 DH2s from RFC-32 to escort. I flew above and slightly behind the other 3 planes in "B" for the standard WOFF form-up and we headed out to meet the DH2s. No clue were the guys in "A" are. Before running into the DH2s I see all 3 "B" guys make a sharp left turn and descend. I hear a Vickers and an EIII machine gun going off but can't see the EIII. Now I hear his engine, now I see him. I don't join the DF, just oserve from above. After a few minutes the EIII goes down and I continue to follow my "B" flight, but we seem to be heading away from the recce area assigned to us.

Yes, we are heading the wrong way. Where is Jake taking us, and why? Soon I see the channel, then an enemy airfield, then black flak smoke. B-flight buzzed around there for about 10 minutes. I neither saw or heard enemy planes or any signs of arial combat. We change direction and head in the general direction of our recce zone. Instead of the required 23 minutes over the zone we spent maybe 5 minutes there before heading in the direction of home. I can now hear the engines of DH2s, ok now a visual, above and behind me. Good, my six is watched. Near home they left, ok there is our airfield, and A-flight too. I wonder where they spent the morning sortie. Looks like A-flight has dibs on the pecking order of landing, I'll just circle above until all are down. Thats long enough, put the Strutter into a controlled left hand flat spin and descend. I see that Tony Pillings was filed a claim in the afterflight details.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 03:18 PM

Could you guys help me out with something?
I see no difference in using dots and using no labels at all.

A screenshot showing the difference would be great.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 03:36 PM

Hey MudWasp, they are not super obvious if you are not looking for them. Here's a shot:

You can see the dot in the upper center of my cockpit (an unfortunate side effect is that they show through the plane. Against light backgrounds, you really can't see them that well.

Hope that helps!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 03:57 PM


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Dawn: Recon in Force to Loos. The Sqn put up 8 BE 2's . We Got hit by Fokkers that were above us. I went wide to make an end run . It didn't work a e/a dropped on our six, I did a Blue Max and dove to ground level weaving among trees on our side of the lines. May have got a Victory. The Fokker took a header into the dirt. We put in a claim, but Archie may have got it. Score: 2 a/c missing and 3 light damage including mine landed at Friendly Aerodrome.

1521 hrs, Bombing mission to Ypres: B Flight 5 patched up a/c + 5 Bristol's Scouts as escort. Scouts engaged 6 Fokkers over target area. They kept the e/a off our backs as we completed bombing run. Some bombs did hit then
everyman for himself and headed home. Footnote, I did spot a E III spinning may have been out of control over N.M.L.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 04:27 PM

Thanks Rick, I guess I always had a light background when comparing.

IRL it is a rainy day with thunderstorms. As I was taking off on my second sortie a VERY VERY LOUD clap of thunder burst from very nearby. This startled me, I jerked and damaged the lower left wingtip of my Strutter. Made it into the air ok, but excessive aleron and rudder input was needed to keep her flying. So I rtb'd with a flying time of 5 minutes.

Think I'll take "Quincy QuickCombat" out for some Spad training.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
...young Artemus was forced down with a dud engine and landed on the bad side of the mud.
He is currently a guest of the Kaiser but is crafting a most clever plan and his escape is imminent...

Sounds like you have already seen the announcement by WOFF, that you will manage to escape, Lou?
That is at least some good news within a bad story.
Cripes, even you... It is tough, isn't it?

And Hasse, you are all alone there now? Geeze - how shall we survive much longer?


Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 05:29 PM

For what it's worth...

I have discovered one way to make shooting harder, and consequently make multiple kills in a mission much less likely ... I removed the 'dead zone' from my TrackIR profile. Instead of roughly v-shaped plots I switched to straight-across plots for all axis.

Now my head movements are much more like real-life, with no preferential centering to the gun. This makes it much harder to line up the gun, as it would have been in real life. Getting kills in a mission is now quite difficult for me.

I ran into Immelman last night and he flew his EIII toe-to-toe with my Strutter. With the new TrackIR settings I hit him only a few times and he was getting the better of me. I was only saved when my wingmates jumped in. Nice!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 05:32 PM

18 June 1916

Today we get up early and take off at 05:30 to surprise the enemy and bomb Ghistelles airfield. 6 Strutters and we pick up our escort of 5 Nieuport 11 near Furnes. With such a force I feel confident !
As we get 2.5 nm from our target, we spot a flight of 3 Eindeckers coming from the South, a little higher than us. Of course, instead of going to intercept them, the stupid escort leader sticks with us. Of course my stupid leader instead of keeping on mission track and drop our bombs on the airfield decides to turn right to meet the Eindeckers. Of course all the Eindeckers ignore the 10 other planes and go after me. They put some hits in my plane and I feel my controls are damaged.
I drop my bombs and turn around going west full steam. As I come on the good side of the lines my engine goes down to idle revs and I land on the road to Furnes. Plane lightly damaged, nobody wounded, they will send vehicles to bring it back with us at Coudekerque.
None of the other 5 planes of my flight made it back, there is a price to pay for being stupid ! Not enough observers left, afternoon mission cancelled.



PS : Wednesday report done !

EDIT : plse note the softer shadows with the new DX9 version from Ankor.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 05:41 PM

Scout, you must be the only one who WANTED it even harder...

Corsaire, they KNEW who was the one to shoot down! Mwahahahahaaa!!!
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 06:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Scout, you must be the only one who WANTED it even harder...


I only made it harder because a wise man named Olham once posted that real pilots only got a kill every few weeks, and that getting multiple kills in a mission is generally unrealistic. He seemed to know what he was talking about, so I figured I would strive to meet his difficult criteria (Big Grin).
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 06:14 PM

There is another Olham around here somewhere???
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 06:57 PM

I have created an Excel sheet for tracking the losses in MFFA 2. If I manage to stay alive, I should be seeing the whole Abteilung wiped out several times in the coming months! But considering that my pilot is the only one left in MFFA 2 after two days of flying, his future doesn't exactly look promising...
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 07:20 PM

Funny you should mention Blue Max. I got a kill today, right next to my airfield.

Of course, the enemy pilot (HA called Dieter Collin) had attacked my flight as we formed up. But still!

My transfer request is in. But not confirmed yet (of course it will be) so tomorrow I do what I always do, try not to die.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 07:21 PM

TO ALL DiD CAMPAIGN FLYERS

Achtung! Tenshion, please!

Gentlemen, in the poll about the awards and medals, a majority of 9 to 4 voted for
- the more differenciated and more realistic awards system; and for
- the more realistic numbers, resulting from the special way of counting victories

Now I am very happy and very proud, that I received a confirmation from our forum veteran RAF_Louvert,
that he will do the medals and awards valuation, according to charts he had first published back in 2011,
and which were aiming for a more realistic awarding system.
I think you all will agree, that we now know the awards in the best possible hands!
Thanks a lot, Lou!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 09:48 PM

Benjamin Bloodworth: June 18, Morning Mission.
Rail yard Bombing. 5 planes, 3 Escorts.

Mission to target was easy with no enemy sighted. After dropping our load we turned to head home and while forming up 5 EA came screaming down on us. 2 of our flight panicked and collided and then all hell broke loose. I headed west with 2 EA on my tail. By weaving slightly and pulling the nose up a bit to give by gunner some shooting lanes he finally drove them off but not before we had a plane full of holes. Luckily nothing vital was hit and we landed back at the field alone. As I sat in my bullet ridden crate pondering my fate we were told that everyone but us was killed but that high command had reported "Well done." And, "Oh yea Sgt., your transfer is approved, better pack your bags, a truck is ready to take you to your new home. I bid my gunner farewell and was in the truck in 20 minutes.

Arriving at No 24 squadron I was told that I was to lead the afternoon flight! These chaps don't fool around. We took off on a Recon mission of the front. Southwest of Arras we were attacked by 3 EA and I sent a green colored single wing devil to hell and watched him crash into a trench. We all arrived safely back at base and I have to say I am in very good spirits!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 09:55 PM

Good to hear, MFair!
Tomorrow I will make the chart with the latest records.
I wonder, how many are still alive and active this time...
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 10:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Good to hear, MFair!
Tomorrow I will make the chart with the latest records.
I wonder, how many are still alive and active this time...

Thanks Olham, There was a time in that last 2 seater mission when I was wondering if I was going to get home. It was one of the most tense missions I have flown in WOFF! So different in the DH2. Instead of seeing an EIII and thinking "Oh crap!", in the DH2 I had the "I've got something for your butt now Hoss".
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/18/14 10:42 PM

Yeah, I understand that. I'd possibly feel similar, once we receive the Halberstadt.
The DH-2 was definitely a great fighter in it's time, before the Albatros D.I and
D.II came; maybe even then, still.
But be very careful. Her rearward vision is next to zero, and her turn-ability
must be well studied by the pilot, before he can make the best use of it.
Great plus: the free forward vision with the gun right in front of you!
Take care, MFair!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 12:00 AM

I have a WOFF error message now about config overide settings that tells me to reinstall WOFF. It happens right before the loading screen appears when "Setting Usiel" (spelling) shows on the screen.

I lost electric power while fly in quick combat... damm thunderstorms

What should I do?
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 12:22 AM

Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 12:26 AM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I have a WOFF error message now about config overide settings that tells me to reinstall WOFF. It happens right before the loading screen appears when "Setting Usiel" (spelling) shows on the screen.

I lost electric power while fly in quick combat... damm thunderstorms

What should I do?


Write your post in the technical issues instead of here ? You'll get better answers probably !
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 01:04 AM

Just did that.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 07:07 AM

I fitted a pretty cheap UPS a couple of years ago. It protects against those quick power cuts of a few seconds and with a real power cut I can switch the pooter off safely. You don't need a big professional UPS for a home pooter. I paid about the equivalent of 50$US.
It's rather like using a laptop which doesn't crash when the power goes off.
If you have to reinstall WOFF don't forget to save your pilots.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 07:21 AM

I notice that Mfair has not only moved from 13 Sqn RFC to 24 Squadron RFC he has also moved sectors from Flanders North to Flanders South. The first is a Medium sector and the second is a Hotspot sector. He has quite correctly captured the Total hours and the hours in each sector. So if you transfer sectors by transferring from one squadron to another you have to keep good records as he has done.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 09:09 AM

MudWasp, if you had a power failure, the pilot files may not have been saved -
perhaps the mission got just broken off, and the pilot files corrupted?

Regard it as "death by lightning strike" or whatever, and create a new feller,
if this one cannot be saved.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 09:42 AM

It's more than a single pilot, it effects all of them.
WOFF won't work.
I'm about to reinstall
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 09:50 AM

Oh dear...! Good luck, MudWasp!
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 10:51 AM

Getting ready for todays flight.

I have been forced to abort the last two flights due to engine failures. First landing was OK, but the second landing, although was close to a main road - I was still able to hit a fence! Maybe in future, if I land to hit a fence, I will stand a good change that I won't?

Had stern words with the fitters and riggers!

At least my pilot is still active - famous last words!!

Sorry to read about your problem MudWasp.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 11:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Beanie
...the second landing, although was close to a main road - I was still able to hit a fence!

Maybe you shouldn't have tried to? biggrin
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 11:36 AM

Good News....WOFF is working again !
Bad News..... All of my pilots were broken

I guess it is time to think about a pilot with a "B" name.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 12:01 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
Good News....WOFF is working again !
Bad News..... All of my pilots were broken

I guess it is time to think about a pilot with a "B" name.


No, as your "A" pilot did not exactly die and cannot be reported as such. So I think it would be 'legal' for you to start again with an "A" pilot but from today.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 12:07 PM


Benjamin Bloodworth found out this morning that his victory is confirmed!
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 12:39 PM

Congratulations MFair!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
I notice that Mfair has not only moved from 13 Sqn RFC to 24 Squadron RFC he has also moved sectors from Flanders North to Flanders South. The first is a Medium sector and the second is a Hotspot sector. He has quite correctly captured the Total hours and the hours in each sector. So if you transfer sectors by transferring from one squadron to another you have to keep good records as he has done.


Just figured you and Olham had enough work without us making more! Now would someone please tell my wife I can do something right!
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 12:46 PM

Augustus Mueller Mission 19 Jun 16 (8th Mission)

Although the mission was a success, a British DH2 peppered my aircraft and forced me to land. That fence was there again!





Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 01:17 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Originally Posted By: MudWasp
Good News....WOFF is working again !
Bad News..... All of my pilots were broken

I guess it is time to think about a pilot with a "B" name.


No, as your "A" pilot did not exactly die and cannot be reported as such. So I think it would be 'legal' for you to start again with an "A" pilot but from today.


Jim & Olham,

Is it ok if I go with a "B-Name" pilot and start his career tomorrow?
Andrew Anderson actually didn't cease to exist until this morning when I uninstalled WOFF.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 02:23 PM

Well, I can only offer you to pick another "A"-name, but start again from zero.
That is necessary, as you may need to show your log from time to time -
and then the hours and other stuff must be identical.
Is that okay for you, Mud?
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: MFair
Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
I notice that Mfair has not only moved from 13 Sqn RFC to 24 Squadron RFC he has also moved sectors from Flanders North to Flanders South. The first is a Medium sector and the second is a Hotspot sector. He has quite correctly captured the Total hours and the hours in each sector. So if you transfer sectors by transferring from one squadron to another you have to keep good records as he has done.


Just figured you and Olham had enough work without us making more! Now would someone please tell my wife I can do something right!


pm me her email address and I'll send her a bunch of flowers!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 04:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Well, I can only offer you to pick another "A"-name, but start again from zero.
That is necessary, as you may need to show your log from time to time -
and then the hours and other stuff must be identical.
Is that okay for you, Mud?


That works, Olham
I'll start a new "A-Name" pilot tomorrow
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 04:25 PM

Augustus Snodgrass
Sgt, Rfc
5 Sqn


19 Jun 16.

Much Ado about Nothing. Posted to the Recon Flight going to Ypres. Our 2 a/c were at 7,000 ft and crossing the lines.
Spotted 6 Aviatik 2 seat Recon slightly above. Started a slight turn to gain an attack position, looking to the right and low saw our top cover 3 A Flight a/c at 2000ft or less going for the target ?. Coming up behind us at about 1 nm was 2 Fokkers. Cut and run, leveling off at 300 ft on our side of the lines, my wingman made a 180 and engaged? I made a 180 to the Right and crossed in front of him. Both gunners fired and the Huns went home . Why ? we were cold meat.


picture host
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 04:29 PM

Olham, would it matter if the new "A-Name" pilot flies for a different country and or at a different difficulty level?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 04:47 PM

No, you have free choice again in this case.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 04:51 PM

The latest Chart is now published in Post No. 1
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 05:22 PM

Very nice, as you now have Hasse with the Imperial Navy Flag!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 05:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
No, you have free choice again in this case.


I love the British planes, but not their food.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 05:43 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I love the British planes, but not their food.

"Mwaha... - ooops, sorry!"

Well, they CAN make some delicious things, if they want to - like a homemade
Shepperd's Pie, or just a portion of fish and chips (you need to find a place you can trust).
A homemade English roast is also something to try - hmmm!!!
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 05:46 PM

I do not know how Algernon Didsworth is still alive.

Art obs today with the last 2 observers. Attacked by 5 eindeckers in close formation. Dived for the lines and dodged like hell and somehow got away!

Even got a claim, although I never saw him crash, so I've just reported it as 'damaged'. The other machine was forced to land but Amedee Del'Haye (H.A. that's his surname) and his observer survived though injured.

My transfer hasn't come through yet. How long do they take? I do have always accepted selected but am wondering if I'll survive long enough to see it.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 05:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I love the British planes, but not their food.

"Mwaha... - ooops, sorry!"

Well, they CAN make some delicious things, if they want to - like
A homemade English roast is also something to try - hmmm!!!


And PLEASE don't forget the Yorkshire pudding, and toad-in-the-hole for breakfast! MMMMMMMMM!
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 05:57 PM

Cumberland sausage? Scones with clotted cream? The fried egg, chips and peas that I've just had?

Don't try these all on the same plate.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 06:05 PM

Fish and chips for me ! Wrapped in the day's newspaper to have something to read while eating.

Or may be haggis and fries or an irish stew in winter, with an irish coffee after... smile2

And a few seafood restaurants I know in Guernsey at St Peter Port !
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 06:13 PM

Sounds good to me, Corsaire - now, where's my rubber raft?
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 06:15 PM

Gotta love fish & Chips
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 06:23 PM

Cumberland sausage? Toad-in-the-hole?? Yorkshire Pudding???
I must have always been in the wrong places!

But hey, yeah, in Cornwall I had those soft scones with clotted cream and raspberry jam,
and they were delicious!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 10:02 PM

I've been seeing many deer around my place this spring, and thoughts of making Jadgwurst with venison have been on my mind lately. IDK...
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/19/14 10:46 PM

19 June 1916

Bombing mission - Target ground units along the Lys river SE of Armentières.
Take off 4 Strutters - no escort.
During the climb over Dunkerque, one plane has an engine problem and returns to our airfield. We continue with 3 planes. Bombing from 8000 ft with many clouds under us - my bombs miss, my mates score hits.
No opposition seen around, quiet return to Coudekerque.

Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 12:26 AM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I've been seeing many deer around my place this spring, and thoughts of making Jadgwurst with venison have been on my mind lately. IDK...



Mmmmm!! Smoke pole or cartridge?
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 12:29 AM

I hate bombing ground units.
RR and airfields are much easier to target, even with cloud cover.
If not flight leader, I like to hang back from formation and drop when I hear the bombs of others start to whistle.
I was always flight leader on a bombing mission....so I X'd that zone and still dropped when my boys did.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 12:38 AM

The new guy.
I'll send Jimthe paperwork before flying

Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 04:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I've been seeing many deer around my place this spring, and thoughts of making Jadgwurst with venison have been on my mind lately. IDK...



Mmmmm!! Smoke pole or cartridge?


Archery...!!!!

They haven't gone fully into sexual mode yet, and are largely unaware of of humans in the woods. Leaves are still on the trees and turning colour... good ambush spots.
....use sex as a lure!

Once fire arms season opens the deer are spooked and become very nocturnal.
That is mid November when all but the oak leaves are down.
Use a deer drive if you have fellow hunters to do it. I think the meat tastes different when an animal has been run, adrenalin (sp). This time of year is when I look to ambush an animal visiting a favorite food source at dusk or dawn, preferably dawn.


Come late December, smoke pole serason starts and the mass of firearms hunters have left, the deer are searching for food that is often snow covered. Food source hunting now, but they are much more hungary than in firearm season and often feed in mid day before a weather front occurs.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 06:54 AM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
The new guy.
I'll send Jimthe paperwork before flying


Ok. Got that. Start Flying and send me the results when you have a sortie or two.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 07:28 AM

Will do, Saturdays and Wednesdays
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 07:48 AM

Yes, you don't have to report after every sortie but it is a good idea to back up your pilots!
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 09:11 AM

Didn't want to take space here but...

How does one fill out the report wed/sun when you fly with "medium" air activity but your squad is/moved to a "Hotspot" like Flanders south ???
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 09:29 AM

Air activity is a Workshops setting, should be Medium for A pilots and Medium or Light for B or C pilots. If your squadron moves, say, from Flanders North (Medium Zone Valuation factor) to Flanders South (Hotspot Zone Valuation Factor) you should keep your 'medium' hours as before you moved and all new hours should be in the Hotspot. In all cases Total Hours = Hotspot hrs + Medium hrs + Quiet Hrs.
RAF_Louvert has been doing this as he moved from a 2-seater squadron 13 RFC in Flanders north to a single seater squadron 24 RFC in Flanders South.

See page one for the Zone Valuation Factors.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 12:05 PM

Maybe the use of the word "medium" was a bit confusing - sorry for that.
As Jim already explained:
We have split the front up in sectors Flanders North, Flanders South, Marne Region, Verdun Sector and Alsace.
Some zones were "Hotspot" at times, while others were "medium" or "quiet" (Alsace for example is "quiet" all the war time).
The zone activity changed several times for some zones during the war.

The "Air activity" settings in WOFF's "Workshop" are another thing.
The rules in post #1 should make it all clear, or so I hope.
If you still have questions, just ask.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 01:24 PM

This is frustrating! Benjamin Bloodworth bit the dust this morning. Ballon busting mission. Popped the ballon, Major Hawker looked like he flew right into it. Once I pulled up and looked around saw 1 dot in the distance. Flew to it, one of my flight, and he starts to circle waiting for all to form up. I'm thinking "lets get the hell out of Dodge." One more forms up with us and that's when the Huns show up. Dispatched one of them and received a few bullets in my crate fighting off two. Now I am alone so I head west. Over the mud I see another of my flight being chased by another Hun. Run home or help? Sorry but I just can't watch him die. Dive down and get that one off his tail and head west again. My kite is not 100%, a little sloppy on the stick so to speak. The flight mate I just saved landed in a field and I head toward our field. About 3 miles on our side of the lines I have bullets hitting my kite. The DH2 has a big ol' blind spot when attacked from above and behind. Slightly wounded I head for the ground quick to land in a field, being peppered the whole time. Just before touch down, yep, you guessed it, a damned fence!

I understand this Campaign is about survival but I just cannot let my flight go on its own when someone needs help. That said, I cannot think of an campaign that I had almost 10 hours and 1 victory, so I am flying somewhat defensive. As for the rules, when I get to a pilot named Ziggy Zipper, am I out?
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 01:38 PM

Will be offline for a day or two..when I start up DID again, I begin on the RL date and set such in the campaign..would that be correct?

Thanks
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 01:45 PM

Originally Posted By: cptroyce
Will be offline for a day or two..when I start up DID again, I begin on the RL date and set such in the campaign..would that be correct?

Thanks

That is correct Sir.
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 01:50 PM

I understand your pain MFair. We've all been there I think.

I hope that the Zs are a such long time away that going back to A won't present any confusion. Otherwise I suppose the start date for that pilot would clear things up.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 02:08 PM

MFair that was quite a flight, pity about the Titanium fence. I would reckon when Ziggy Zapotek bites the dust you can start again at A but with a different name to avoid confusion. And as Maeran says the start date would be very different. I don't report on those - I did at one time but all I know is the capture date in 2014 which is not necessarily the flight date in 1916. And as you can do many sorties between capturing your data it is incorrect for the web to ask you for a date. How I really keep track of the data for each pilot is that the respondent data for any survey is numbered consecutively. So your captures might be 34, 68 and 92 or so. So 92 is that last in that case.
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 02:38 PM

Sorry to read about the lost of your pilot MFair. The only way I have stayed alive upto now (9 missions) is by force landing - 3 times, or by gaining height and flying into heavy cloud.

It will not be long until more of us join the list of dead pilots!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 03:18 PM

Thanks for the condolences folks. The "Survive" and "Realism" part of my brain are having a war of their own. I just do not think for realism sake that a pilot would have abandoned a mate to save his hide, or not attacked with his flight as commanded. I am sure it was done but I have read to many accounts of pilots risking their lives to save another in a fix. I have to do the same to keep the immersion factor going. On the other hand I have learned in this campaign that when your adversary breaks off, your in hostile territory, and have a few holes in your own crate, leave well enough alone and head home. Or, if outnumbered, put as many holes in as many as you can and look for an escape route instead of trying to bring one down. If you fly with Major Hawker in RFC 24, true to life, he "attacks everything." I would think in real life if you flew with him and broke off too many combats early, you might not be flying too long, so I dive in with him and do the best I can. By the way, this is a lot of fun!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
MFair that was quite a flight, pity about the Titanium fence. I would reckon when Ziggy Zapotek bites the dust you can start again at A but with a different name to avoid confusion. And as Maeran says the start date would be very different. I don't report on those - I did at one time but all I know is the capture date in 2014 which is not necessarily the flight date in 1916. And as you can do many sorties between capturing your data it is incorrect for the web to ask you for a date. How I really keep track of the data for each pilot is that the respondent data for any survey is numbered consecutively. So your captures might be 34, 68 and 92 or so. So 92 is that last in that case.


That was in jest Jim. I will most likely bow out somewhere around Jack Johnson!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 03:25 PM

Major Hawker was a magnificent pilot as we all know. He didn't even have to fly being a Major and Squadron commander. The same applies later to Mick Mannock.

Personally if I made it to Major I would have sat in my office and tasted the whiskey!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 03:41 PM

reading

It may be that the Fence gets more kills than the flack guns.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 03:48 PM

yeah

Army Hq has posted my victory.


upload picture
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 04:28 PM

Well done Carrick. Getting a kill while flying a BE2 is darn near impossible, but you did it!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 04:50 PM

Congrats, Carrick!
And one sound advice: don't question your claim yourself - let the brass do that business!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 07:03 PM

PILOTENBUCH
Offzstv. Bernhard Harms, Kasta 18, Pronville, 20. Juni 1916

At 07:20 h I took off to lead a flight of three Roland C.II and 2 Aviatik to reconnoitre enemy
positions east-southeast of Arras. I led them the lake "Les Anciennes Tourbiéres" southeast of
Arleux, which we just call "Lake Teardrop". This was the first time I had to lead a flight of
5 aircraft, and so I picked this great landmark, to climb to 2500 meters here, before we went
on towards the front lines.

Flying west, we just passed our next landmark, the "Marais de Saudemont", when we sighted Flak
puffs south of the lake. Five Nieuport 11 appeared, and they were higher up, and they had already
seen us. I turned round and waved to the others to form a defensive circle.
And it worked! After only three or four minutes, two of the nimble French fighters went down,
badly smoking! The others prefered to drive off, but we had received hits on our aircraft, and
so I broke the tour off.

Unfortunately, Messmer and Landmann collided, while both were approaching the field low.
Their Aviatiks crashed right outside Pronville and caught fire. Messmer, Landmann and observer
Bauer died in the accident; the other observer - Heinemann - survived badly injured, and was
brought to the hospital at Cambrai. My other Rolands - Foerster/Klein and Lubau/Schmidt - each
had a victory today. But we didn't feel like celebrating that after the terrible incident.



JFM, thanks again for the Roland skin! And RAF_Louvert, thanks a lot for the Flanders map!
Although flying LEVEL B, I used it for this last sortie, to fly after only your map, which was
on a second monitor. And it worked won'fully pretty!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 07:28 PM

popcorn
Thanks Herr Olham and 77 Scout. This sounds dumb but I think the Blue Max Low Level around the trees might be a good way to get kills. although I am going to transfer to FEE,s, I will try to get another Kill using that technique.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 08:22 PM

Augustus Snodgrass
Sgt, Rfc
5 Sqn.


20 Jun 16.

Army Hq called requesting a Recon of the lines by Loos. A flight put up 4 a/c as Cover for my 1 a/c.
as we neared the target area, my cover flight disappeared. I was able to avoid 3 Hun patrols,but could only stay near the area for a short time due to the German guns and a Scout patrol nosing around. Upon landing , I heard that my Top Cover was jumped by the Huns 3 light Damage 1 Heavy and forced down 2 pilots wnd. No e/a shot down.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 08:36 PM

Close shaves, every morning...
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/20/14 09:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Close shaves, every morning...

Yea but your still alive! Good job on the victory Carrick.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 12:40 AM

20.06.1916 - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque

Further to the previous stupid decisions of flight leaders, we are left with only 4 Strutters.
For the afternoon mission, I am sent alone on a bombing of ground units on the front near Bailleul. Weather with a dense cloud cover 3/5. I will be escorted by 5 N11s from RNAS 3. Flight A of 3 planes is sent on another mission.

At least alone I can decide for myself, and first decision is to skip the bl**dy climb over Dunkerque ! Catch up with the escort goes fine, bombing goes fine thks to a hole in the clouds ( 8 hits with 4 bombs from 8000 ft ).
On the way back we meet 2 Eindeckers in our lines who are after flight A. My 5 escorts send them down quickly.

Return to Coudekerque. Flight A has lost a plane and a team, the two other planes need repairs.
Missions cancelled for the 21st due to lack of planes.

Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 12:51 AM

I lost track of my men when we hit cloud cover. Standard recce in the plane I call my "BBW", baby blue whale, I heard arial combat, could not see anything. I dove, my BBW is very good at going down, out of the clods I could easily see our escort of 3 EIIIs scraping with N16s. At this time I also saw a Roland smoking and about to crash. I checked my compass and headed for home. Landed after my men did. One man is missing.

After mission brief shows he took a plane down before he went down
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 09:30 AM

Corsaire, that wet Strutter in the grey skies looks so realistic!

Carry on, MudWasp! I can fly again tomorrow - when our planes are repaired.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 11:28 AM

I am having trouble flying because it is so sunny here my TrackIr doesn't work properly until the sun goes down. And then I have other things to do... Maybe I would be better off in the UK where the sun rarely shines if I remember rightly.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 12:47 PM

I have to fly afternoons here because of soccer games in the evening. It is very sunny at this time of the year, I simply almost close the shades ... smile2
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 01:15 PM

If I close the blinds my wife complains about me sitting in the dark when it is nice and sunny outside..... Although she is French she has no interest in football, although she went to the semi-final back in 1998 when France beat Croatia and we all joined in the celebrations in Rheims after the final. That was quite a night, lots of champagne was drunk! Just to set the record straight her trip to France and the semi-final ticket was paid for by MasterCard and (much to her disgust) she was put up for free at EuroDisney! I had to pay my own way.....

Her relations refer to EuroDisney as 'La honte de France' ....
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 01:44 PM

I put cardboard up on my windows on sunny days.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
If I close the blinds my wife complains about me sitting in the dark when it is nice and sunny outside.....


Mine is at work, someone has to pay for my retirement... smile2 If she knew all what I do when she's not in ! smile2

Women in general have no interest for the combination armchair, beer, peanuts, pizza and sports !
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 03:40 PM

I pull my shades down and there's little direct sunlight that hits this particular room. It's like a little cave and I love it for flying.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 03:43 PM

My window is to my right and never makes any problems with TrackIR.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 04:26 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
At least alone I can decide for myself, and first decision is to skip the bl**dy climb over Dunkerque !


You can always skip the 'circling climb' phase of the flight by using the next-waypoint command (shift+w). It works even when you are not the flight-leader.

You have to wait until the takeoff sequence is complete; the command will be ignored prior to that. But when the flight reaches the climb-out location and you will see the leader enter the 'big climbing circle' part of the flight then you can hit shift+w and he will immediately head for the next waypoint.

It works well, and I use this quite a lot. I find that getting to the first waypoint sooner often increases the chances of a successful hook-up with escorts.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 05:35 PM

MudWasp - The British Admiralty, represented here by Commander Louvert, awarded your pilot Andrew Anderson a medal.
It will appear in the next updated chart.




Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 07:01 PM

Thankyou, I'm honored.
R.I.P. Andy ~S~

It was a hell of a day for my BBW and I. Recon mission with very short distance, 3 of us in B flight and 1 in A flight. I'm tasked with flight leader....red flags go up in my mind. So we take off, I circle the airfield twice and head away from the front to gain height. My men are tight behind me in a V, no clue where the lone man from A flight is.

We gain altitude steadily and I change direction towards the front. I'm guessing we were about 4500 feet high. All of a sudden I hear an enemy aircraft machine gun going off and then a German rear gunner fighting back. I look back and we are being attacked...ok..dive and run. My BBW's engine roars to life at full throttle and we head for home. The man on my right flank is in trouble...Big Time trouble. I see 4 French Nieups swarming arond him like the deerflies do an me when I garden on a muggy day with no wind. Flee or Run? I fled for my home airfield which is probably 4 miles away. constantly checking my tail.

One of my men is certain die, gangbanged by a flock of Nieups. Hans and are fleeing for home. There is the forest our airfield is at. I see the airfield now, but I'm not lined up properly to land, need to turn 90 after I fly over it. Hans is being attacked now. I hear then see that. I can't let another squad man die. I pull a hammarhead.

Two Niups are on him and I'm closing fast for a head on attack. His engine starts afire, the Nieup that caused that is the lower of the two and headed directly at me. I squirt off some short burts to hopefully get his nose/gun off me. It works and I apply left rudder for another burst. My BBW is now crabbing/dogtracking with an excellent head on shot. One Missippi, 2 Missippi, 3 Missippi, I count off in my head as I pepper him and send his engine smoking.

Where is the other Nieup? I can't see him, I now intend to land, but suddenly hear my observer/rear gunner blasting off short bursts. I hear the fabric on my BBW tear and see tracer fire going past me. I know where that other Nieup is now. My rear gunner squirts off two more short blasts as we fly over our airfield. He must have scored a few hits, I can now this is an N16 and it is reversing direction.

I pull a hard left aleron bank with as little rudder as possible. I'm on his 6 now and below. I think he may be able to climb away, so I squirt off some rounds at him, he turns to fight and dives. I go for a pilot kill as I catch him in the turn. It works...I land my BBW. I was the only plane that lived today.

We are low on planes now and can not fly.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 07:08 PM

Olham, may I advance through briefings and see when we have enough planes to fly again?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 07:10 PM

Yes, sure - just advance, check, and then leave again.
Nothing will happen, if you don't press "Go to field".
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 07:50 PM

Augustus Mueller
FA 5 Lb
Mission 21 June 1916 (10th Mission)
Bombing Enemy Front Lines
Area: NorthEast of Arras between Arras and Thelus

Escort - 2 Fokker E III from Jasta 11

2 aircraft Avialik CI - Flight Leader Augustus Mueller

Takeoff: 05h50

At 06h09 flight was attacked by British Ni 11 aircarft. As we were close to FA 5 LB air field (Haubourdin), we landed at home airfield for protection.

Once HA had left the area, I continued alone with the mission. As I approached the attack area, my aircraft came under anti aircraft fire. I pressed on with the attack, dropping my bombs which unfortunately missed their targets. I returned to Haubourdin under heavy enemy anti aircraft fire.

Landed safety at airfield.

I live to fight another day!
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 07:51 PM

Well done MadWasp - good show!

Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 09:13 PM

Corsaire 31 pics are so cool looking. Congrats to all trying to get thru WOFF
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 09:14 PM

Congrats, Beanie and MudWasp - Mud, that was a thriller like the match Germany vs Ghana I just watched!
Well done!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 09:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Congrats, Beanie and MudWasp - Mud, that was a thriller like the match Germany vs Ghana I just watched! Well done!


Agree on the nice game ! This time the old Gary Linecker saying was wrong...
I see Germany going far in this world cup, specially when you see who you have on the replacement bench ! France could probably play Germany in quarters as it looks like at the moment !
Now I go fly my Spad 81 mission while listening to Nigeria - Bosnia on the radio ! smile2
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 09:43 PM

I've got my transfer at last! My last mission for 13 squadron was a reconnaissance flight over Arras. All pretty quiet until we picked up two Eindekkers that followed us home, attacking as we descended to land. The defensive machine guns of the aerodrome protected us and the two Fokkers crashed. Landing with the smoke of the wrecks hanging over the field, I received the news that I am to go to Abeele and join 29 squadron in their DH2s.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 09:47 PM

Originally Posted By: 77_Scout
Originally Posted By: corsaire31
At least alone I can decide for myself, and first decision is to skip the bl**dy climb over Dunkerque !


You can always skip the 'circling climb' phase of the flight by using the next-waypoint command (shift+w). It works even when you are not the flight-leader.


Thks for the tip. I'm stupid I didn't try before. sigh
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 10:20 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
France could probably play Germany in quarters as it looks like at the moment !

Yeah, France played very good!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/21/14 11:27 PM

Congratulation Mudwasp on surviving and your medal. Beanie, ain't it a great feeling to land at home at hit Shift E! Maeran, Congrates on surviving the 2 seaters and getting your scout. It is a fine plane except for the blind spot above and behind. Keep a sharp Eye. As soon as I get my frustrations out, Charlie Chalk with join his 2 seater squadron and have another go.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 02:44 AM

I feel bad my men died, I was just a little too late to save one.

I'm grounded due to lack of planes until the 24'th
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 03:19 AM

Augustus Snodgrass
Sgt, Rfc,
20 th Sqn



6/21/16.

Transported over to my new Sqn by Mess Truck. Spent the afernoon getting to know my kite. I say, the Fe2b loks to be a wonderful Kite. The C.O. said I would be going up in the morning so sleep tight. Smashing.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 10:38 AM

MudWasp, I bet the real life flyers had that feeling very often.
That must have been the worst about an empty chair in the mess:
the feeling that you were out there, and now you are back at the mess table -
but that other guy isn't.

Carrick, good luck with your Fee - she should be a fine kite at this time,
before any Halberstadts or even Albatros appeared.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 12:28 PM

I set off with one wingman in my FE2b. Strange - the previous sortie I was one of 5. Somewhere on the way to the lines my wingman disappeared. I then chickened out <ctrl-R> as I'm not going over the lines on my own!
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 01:54 PM

I actually managed to live another day! MFFA 2 has five pilots active now, and we had no casualties in today's missions.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 02:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
I actually managed to live another day! MFFA 2 has five pilots active now, and we had no casualties in today's missions.

THAT is rare, and should call for a party, Hasse! I wish you more such days.
If my "B" pilot should fall, I'll join you up there by the North Sea.
Should be like home for me.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 03:38 PM

jawdrop I got Fenced. End of 1st patrol on landing passed 1 fence so thought cool cut power then in front of me another fence ? Now 8 days in the Hospital. All I can see is the back of the gunners head in the Fee.


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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 04:21 PM

Well, like in real life, it is the LAST fence you need to hop over!
But at least you survived it. Great records so far, Carrick!
Twelve bomb hit are quite something to annoy the Kaiser!
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 04:27 PM

Thanks MFair..
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 04:38 PM

That is some mighty fine bombing! clapping
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 05:19 PM

PILOT NOTES
Offzstv. Bernhard Harms, Kasta 18
Pronville, 22. Juni 1916

Weather: changeable; huge grey cumulus, light haze
Wind: 4 knots, W-NW
Takeoff: 16:20 h
We had to reconnoitre enemy positions and installations at Neuville-Saint-Vaast and Thélus north of Arras.
Our observers made notes about everything. Then they put the sheets into special wooden tubes with little
parachutes attached to them, and dropped those south of Vitry-en-Artois. They had laid out a white cross
on a field there, which we couldn't miss.
An escort of 4 Fokker E.III was meant to join us over Vitry, but we never saw them.

We operated in two layers this time. Becker and Seybold flew at 1500 Meter, and I was higher up,
at 2200 Meter. We had agreed, that we would fire a yellow flare, if one of us should get under attack by
enemy scouts. If they'd attack me, I would dive in front of my comrades and drag the scouts with me.
I would try to lure them right in front of my comrades' guns.
And if Becker or Seybold should get attacked, I was meant to come down on the enemy like hellfire.
All very nice in theory.

When we had dropped the first notes, and returned for a second observation, I saw 4 specs over a huge
white cloud. The fokkers, I thought. But then they all went down like hawks: attacking scouts?
Becker and Seybold went into that cloud in that same moment; I never saw any yellow flare.
I flew to the other side of the cloud, but I saw nobody coming out of it.
So I carried on. Rieken, my observer, made final notes, and we flew back to Vitry and dropped them.
A two meter long streamer, made of bandage, was attached to our log, and we watched it going down
on that field. Then we headed home.

Later we learned, that Becker and Seybold had really been attacked. It all went so quick, that they
could only just dive into that cloud quickly - no time to fire a flare. The fight took place under
the cloud, where I could never see them.
Seybold's engine got shot up; he had to put his Roland down by the road Arras-Cambrai, but they
remained unharmed. Becker's observer is lightly wounded, but they made it back.

We will all fly higher next time, if the mission allows it.


Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 06:18 PM

Just finished mission 5. I put in for a transfer after mission 3 and it hasn't come through yet...very frustrating. I've flown two missions since. On mission 4 I hit ctrl>r by accident and all my flight went back to Chocques. I continued on solo and completed the mission and no transfer. Then I flew mission 5 and it was textbook. I completed all requirements then landed. I waited for Paddock to land and he crashed and was killed just short of the airfield. Still no transfer.

I'm getting tired of this 2-seater and just want to get into a Nieup. 11. Maybe I just need to be patient but I want to get in a scout so at least I have a gun in my hands.

Nice photos Olham!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 06:26 PM

Great report, Olham!

I love the N11, Shiloh, just be careful as you don't get much ammo with it!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 07:25 PM

Shilo, just be patient. I had the same thing before I got my scout. Just keep your cool and stay alive!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 07:28 PM

Here's where we all stand right now. I have listed all pilots in the order of their points now.
Right-click on the pictures and then click on "Show graphic".






Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 08:33 PM

10 days had passed since my pilot was wounded. 10 real days after my last mission,and then, at last I was allowed to fly again, this weekend, and my first flight took 17 minutes before my engine shut off. Sigh.

Second mission was not better, some 25 minutes after take-off we were attacked by Nieuports, I was wounded and my flight mate dead,...another 7 days in Hospital,...both Nieuports were heavily damaged but did not fall eventually.

I have spent more time flirting with nurses than flying in this challenge, but I am alive, and my trasnfer to the Eindecker E III was approved at last! Wait,...is that good news after all...?

Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 08:48 PM

Well, I decided to give it a go today with mission 6.

June 22, 1916 (mission 6)



I led my flight of 6 BE2.C's to the front lines fine then I spotted 7 black dots coming right at us near the front. I high-tailed it back over our lines and they pursued and quickly made ground. I climbed a bit to keep our noses up, and to put our observers in a good position to fire. My observer Peirce lit one of those Einies up and I watched him smoke and fall to the ground.



With bullets whizzing by my head I dropped out of formation with 2 Einies following me down. I swerved and throttled up and down and I realized I was losing fuel. Then my prop went dead. Despite the challenges, I was able to lose them both before landing in a field slightly wounded near one of our observation balloons. I caught a truck back to Chocques and learned that Evans and his observer were lost but it wasn't a bad show considering we had 7 Einies on our tails.



I put a claim in when we got back and I found out that my transfer to RNAS-1 came through and tomorrow I will fly up to Furnes to take the seat in my new Nieuport 11 'Bebe' scout. Finally, a chance to fire a gun and fly at faster than 75 MPH.

~ Sergeant Abel Wainright, RFC 10

Alive and wounded is better than 6 feet under Aris...nice photo. Thanks MFair and Rick for the encouragement...I was about to lose it if I had to fly that big clunker again.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 09:07 PM

Damn, Aris - and they call that "medium" activity?
"Medium" like in: "I want my steak medium done?"

Congrats to your transfer, Shiloh!

TO ALL PILOTS
Remember: if your pilot should fall, please send your final data records to Jim.
Enlist a new feller only the next day, or later.
Otherwise the chart work might get confusing, okay?
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 09:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham


Congrats to your transfer, Shiloh!



Thanks Olham. Two-seaters aren't really my cup of tea and since I hadn't transferred before, I didn't know what the deal was. Maybe the RFC 10 officers wanted me to shoot someone down before they approved my transfer.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 10:44 PM

Flight Sub. Lieut. Charles Chatterly has reported for duty. Just to let everyone know ahead of time, I will tolerate no ill talk of my sister, Lady Chatterley, soiled dove though she is. I could not go through flying the BE again so figured the Strutter was for me. Looking over Olhams chart, there are some very fine pilots in this group. My cap is off to you all!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/22/14 11:11 PM



Flight Sub-lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - 22 June 1916

Mission today is recon over enemy units. 3 Strutters, I am n° 2.
After take off and before the dreaded turn and climb, I press shift-W. Miracle ! We skip this boring phase and head to the front. We are around 10.000 ft when we get there.
As we close on our target, my leader and the second wingman dive left towards some planes under us, probably Eindeckers on patrol. I decide not to be so stupid, and somebody has to take the bl**dy pictures anyway !
I keep flying straight to the enemy ground unit, make two passes to make sure we have the photos and head to Coudekerque, while my "would-be fighters" friends are engaged in combat.
I land back at home and the two other guys come in later with one damaged plane.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 03:58 AM

Olham, my pilot Aarik Bachmeier didn't show up on the chart.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 04:49 AM

MudWasp, in the chart I got from Jim, his values were all still on zero.
He will appear once he has started, okay?
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 05:57 AM

I just passed the 15 hour mark, but came within an inch of being captured in the process. My Strutter was hit by an Eindecker while bombing a German airfield and heard my engine make a slight drop in tone. I know what that means so I headed for home ASAP and, as expected, my engine crapped out a few minutes later. I glided as far as I could and landed in the trenches. I was almost positive I was on the German side of the lines, but got a 'landed in friendly territory' result so guess I was saved by a British raiding party.

Reginald (my observer) has gone on 48 hour leave, so I guess he was pretty shook up by the incident.

Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 06:14 AM

Great event, Scout - and good to hear that you just made it!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 07:35 AM

Olham asked me yesterday to not produce the chart until 8pm which allowed his latest and mine and another to arrive. I then shut down my pc. This is 2pm Detroit time.

This morning Monday 23rd I find I have 9 new respondents. These are cptroyce, Shiloh (2), 77_Scout, Mfair (2), lederhosen, ArisFuser and Corsaire31. Some of these pilots are in the US and quite a few hours behind me here in SA.

Don't worry too much as you will all appear in the Wednesday results.

77_scout - your pilot is improperly dressed for a RNAS pilot! The Admiralty will be onto you soon attack
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 07:50 AM

Jim, you can send me the new chart - I have some time to change it now.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 09:01 AM

Okay, one more - the updated chart from Monday, June 23:



Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 09:17 AM

Mfair's latest pilot Charles Chatterly is not there. And I have no data for JFM. Note we now have FIVE dead pilots.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 09:44 AM

Attempted to fly 23rd June 1916. 'A' flight has 6 aircraft but they want ME to patrol behind enemy lines on my own! NO WAY José! I have stayed alive so far by being a chicken and will continue to do so. No pilot in 1916 deliberately flew behind enemy lines on his own except Albert Ball. I tried the alternative mission but got the same one. Maybe I'll accept the mission and fly off somewhere else like Paris!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 09:50 AM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Mfair's latest pilot Charles Chatterly is not there.

Thank you - corrected!

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Note we now have FIVE dead pilots.

The "Fallen Pilots" chart will only show one (the best) fallen pilot for each player, Jim.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/23/14 10:58 AM

Salut

am I doing something wrong ... again?

I see 6.95hrs in both hotspot and quiet sections, when I'm sure I typed in medium.
let me know pls as I like this pilot.

danke
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 06/23/14 11:32 AM

Originally Posted By: lederhosen
am I doing something wrong ... again?

No, this was my fault.
Jim's records capture is looking different than my chart,
and everyone is in different lines too.

Corrected.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 11:38 AM

Exited WOFF and re-entered. This time I was in a flight of 4 which is more like it!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 11:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Mfair's latest pilot Charles Chatterly is not there.

Thank you - corrected!

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Note we now have FIVE dead pilots.

The "Fallen Pilots" chart will only show one (the best) fallen pilot for each player, Jim.


As the pilots are different A, B, C etc I think we should show ALL the dead pilots. Players can have innumerable pilots - Mfair is up to his C pilot now.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 12:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
MudWasp, in the chart I got from Jim, his values were all still on zero.
He will appear once he has started, okay?


Was it incorrect of me to send in such info before I flew him? I did so to "register" him.

Apparantly the second survey with two sorties didn't make it to Jim, most likely a dial up problem caused at my end. No big deal, I'm grounded due to lack of planes until the 24th. Will send in another survey after flying again.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 12:24 PM

Sorry you did capture it and I missed it because I had a sudden flurry of responses. Your latest is Aarik Bachmeier who has 2 sorties in the Verdun sector 1.28 hours and 39 points. This will be shown on the Wednesday chart unless you do more sorties! Dangerous place, Verdun.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 01:02 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
As the pilots are different A, B, C etc I think we should show ALL the dead pilots.
Players can have innumerable pilots - Mfair is up to his C pilot now.

That's the reason why there will be only one fallen pilot per player -
just to show the best one of each flyer.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 01:07 PM

But shouldn't we keep a memorial of all those fallen flyers? I am certain their relatives would like that
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
But shouldn't we keep a memorial of all those fallen flyers? I am certain their relatives would like that


I think each player can do it himself, that's what I do.
I have all my pilots records of the last 10 years on Excel sheets and screenies of their dossiers in folders per squadron ( OFF, ROF and IL2 ) I can tell you it's a lot of people in there ! smile2
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 05:13 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - 23 June 1916

Today is morning mission : Reco over ground units west of Ypres.

Same story as yesterday, my two flight mates go "gung-ho" after some Eindeckers. I do the job of taking pictures above the enemy ground units.

As I turn around west, I see under me my leader with a Fokker in his six. I go down behind the hun who is focused on his prey. I let him have it and watch him go down to the ground.

I land back at Coudekerque to bring back the pictures, my leader Flight Lt Boyd lands at Bailleul. Unfortunately the other wingman Nathan Ada and his observer will never come back.

I open my victory counter ! Afternoon missions cancelled due to lack of flyable planes.
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 06:09 PM





Today was a nice day, none of my friends got killed today.

I did get followed home by an Eindecker, which was his mistake. I got the DSO, which of course I shouldn't have because I'm a sergeant.

6 victories. 2 of which I consider to be my observer's. 2 were balloons (one of which would have actually been equally divided by 4, since the entire flight was shooting at it), so only 2 kills that I would consider to be what you think of when you say 'victory'.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 06:50 PM

Good work there Maeran! You'll have passed me handily now in the points tally and at this rate will soon be giving RAF_Louvert a run for his money. Well done.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 07:04 PM

Congrats for your first victory, Corsaire; and for your 6 victories and the DSO, Maeran!
You know we have our own, more strikt rules for awards, but still you are an ace now!
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 08:38 PM

6 kills in 13 missions, flying a 2 seater in 1916,...
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 10:04 PM

No ArisFuser, 2 kills. Which of course my observer got while I was trying to avoid being shot. The EIII is easier to shoot down from the front, it's engine is vulnerable it seems.

The other 4 are in DH2s and two of them are balloons.
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/23/14 10:13 PM

Great job everyone!

I can see how keeping track of everyone's pilots could get overwhelming Olham. I appreciate what you're doing now (you too Jim) and if you just show our best pilot in the demise section, I'm good with that.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 12:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Shiloh
Great job everyone!

I can see how keeping track of everyone's pilots could get overwhelming Olham. I appreciate what you're doing now (you too Jim) and if you just show our best pilot in the demise section, I'm good with that.


They will have to Shiloh. I think I might fill up a whole chart by myself! Maeran and Corsaire, congratulations on your accomplishments!
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 12:49 AM

Well, there's 17 pilots total and 26 letters in the alphabet, so we can have 26 pilots to get from now to the end of the war. I we all used up our pilots Olham would have to make a death chart with 442 pilots on it. eek2
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 01:11 AM

Might not have worded that right Shiloh, I was agreeing with your idea of just showing the best of the dead. Yep, that would be a whole lot of pilots! cheers
Posted By: cptroyce

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 02:33 AM

olham

I don't see my pilot. Sent in first sortie info the other day..Bernhard Meisner FFA 282
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 04:03 AM

thumbsup


Aces and Medals and here I am still on sick leave

http://youtu.be/P00PUTWxiUU
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 12:02 PM

24 June 1916 all sorties cancelled due to bad weather now in Northern Flanders.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 01:21 PM

Kasta 34b based in Verdun now has enough planes to fly, but is grounded by the weather.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 01:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Congrats for your first victory, Corsaire; and for your 6 victories and the DSO, Maeran!
You know we have our own, more strikt rules for awards, but still you are an ace now!


Olham, the survey that Jim put together asks about awards. Do we check off awards that WOFF awarded a pilot, or awards that DiD awarded a pilot?
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 01:35 PM

.

24 Squadron at Bertangles West is also sitting it out today due to rain. I can appreciate this in RL as well since we had monsoon rains here in central Minnesota last week and the week before. My basement flooded last Thursday evening due to the sump pump conking out. By the time I got it replaced, (in 45 minutes from the point of it failing BTW), I had two feet of water in my basement. Furnace and water heater are both ruined but I was lucky as there is nothing else down there and the walls are bare stone. Lots of folks around here have nicely finished basements, (my neighbor across the road for example), many of which are now under water.

More rain on the way tonight... oh goodie. It likely goes without saying but the aforementioned flooding, (along with my crazy busy work schedule), have kept me from enjoying everyone's company here for the last number of days. My only break has been in the wee hours of the morning when I slip away to my flying computer and get in the DID Campaign missions for Sgt. Burroughs.

Fly smart all!

.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 01:55 PM

Yikes! Good luck, Lou! Bailing the basement is not fun!
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 02:23 PM

Well, it's good to hear you didn't lose anything extremely valuable to the flood, Lou! No floods here, though otherwise the summer has been colder than in many years.

Damn weather ruins the DiD campaign too! When I have enough pilots and machines to continue, I can't because of the rain! Bugger!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 02:26 PM

Good thing you had a backup pump Lou! Stay dry!

My pilot is thinking about a transfer to the quiet sector to calm his nerves and become better acquainted with his Roland, BBW. Is he allowed to transfer to Kasta 11 currently based in Freiburg when he hasn't totaled up 3 hours in Kasta 34b?
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 03:46 PM

Sorry to hear of your troubles Lou, Hope you dry out soon.
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 03:50 PM

Stay dry Lou!

I see no reason why you can't transfer to a quieter region if you feel the need Mudwasp. In campaign terms you pay for it in points and in the game you could imagine your influential uncle pulled some strings.

But I ended up flying 3 missions between transfer request and confimation, so you could be better off holding on for a scout
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 04:47 PM

The Kommandant bribed Aarik to stay on. Actually i created a non DiD pilot in that squad and they fly crazy long flights 2 and 3 times the Rolands range, so it's a no-go.

Lou, I hope that your home owners covers the cost of a replacement furnace and water heater.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 04:47 PM

cptroyce, I'll add him on Wednesday then - it seems to grow over my head.

MudWasp, most awards will be given to the pilots by the "DiD Awards Committee", which is actualy Lou.
But all awards should still be reported, especially smaller ones, like "Ehrenbecher".

Lou, you told me before in the PM about the flooding. I can only hope that it will all dry off well.
Here in Germany we had several great floodings during the last 12 years, and some people had them
twice or three times. I don't know how to bear that.

Seems the weather is even effecting both our real and our sim lives...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 04:53 PM

popcorn

Lou, sorry to read about the flooding. I know that can be a pain.
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 04:57 PM

Tomorrow is flyable in Flanders. So that's something. Enjoy your dud day, gentlemen.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/24/14 06:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Maeran
Tomorrow is flyable in Flanders. So that's something. Enjoy your dud day, gentlemen.

I have not looked at the weather for the 24th Maeran. I hate to hear that as I was flying my DID campaign at night this week as I am literally making hay during the day. Drinks are on me in the mess mates, no telling who's chair will be empty tomorrow!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 04:54 AM

wave

Augustus Snodgrass

How I miss the sounds of a/c motors and the commotion around an aerodrome. Still on sick leave I have noticed a slight difference between a warrior's life and a citizen.

http://youtu.be/lK0gYi1YEZ8
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 09:37 AM

Carrick, the ways you seem to try to get fit for war again... bananadancebananadancebananadance

The real life weather on June 25 here in Berlin is awful rain so far.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 10:50 AM

Hi Olham, I think I should put this here for all to see ...

At what time should I get any last responses and send the chart to you? We are on the same time ie. GMT +2
I can do it up to 8pm or 20:00 Military time behindcouch
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 11:07 AM

Carrick, you are living the good life!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 12:02 PM

Jim, 20 h is fine for me!
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 12:23 PM

Salut

managed to rescue the pilot from a tech error.
Basel is still No.1 and flying Morane-L's









Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 12:33 PM

Nice report lederhosen
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 02:33 PM



Flight Sub Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - 25 June 1916 (Mission 8)

Today is afternoon bombing of enemy airfield at Haubourdin , north of Lens.
3 Strutters led by Flight Commander Leslie Carpenter. 15:20, beautiful weather, clear skies.
No opposition encountered, we drop our bombs from 10.000 ft and the three of us hit. (for me 16 hits with 4 bombs)
Quiet return to Coudekerque and landing.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 04:44 PM

Basel Brush is from Canada, I see? Well, he looks like a real trapper indeed!
Nice to see a Morane Parasol here!
Nice reports and pictures, lederhosen & Corsaire!

*****

On my latest sortie I must have achieved my weirdest victory ever!
And look, whom I have shot down...!

PILOT NOTES
Offzstv. Berhard Harms, Kasta 18
Pronville, 25. Juni 1916

Hauptmann Gunther Baermann and I were on a reconnaissance between Arras and Bapaume.
Baermann flew at 2000, and I was at 2500 Meters, and all went fine first.
But then our A-flight, a single Roland C.II for our protection, went lower and lower north of Miraumont.
Soon we saw why - two Sopwith Triplanes were turning with a single Fokker Eindecker low.
One left, while I came down lower.

No idea why Schuster joined in, but soon he got in trouble himself - the Triplane attacked him fiercely!
Both German planes and all their guns were not enough to control that three-winged devil, and so I went
lower and lower, to help our men out.
Soon I saw Schuster crawling back over the lines - he had to put his Roland down, due to engine damage.

Each time I apparoached the Tripe, it turned towards me, and I had to pull up again.
But then he ran after the Eindecker, at tree-top level, and I curved in behind him.
Now or never, I thought. Closer and closer I came!
I saw the Triplane firing after the Eindecker, which now tried to land.
He summersaulted in the mud!
In the same moment I fired at the Triplane from ca. 50 Meters behind.

I must have hit the pilot - the craft nosed right in after my burst.
I had not only achieved a victory - it was even against the most notorious scout the British have now!
On returning we were received with a loud "hello!" from everybody!
Our frontline troops had already called and confirmed my victory!

Now, I don't really believe it was all my success - the Fokker must have hit the Tripe before.
But the poor feller broke his neck in the crashlanding - and so I am the lucky winner!
That's war...



Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 05:09 PM

Please capture this latest flight Olham! The 20:00 deadline is approaching!
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 05:27 PM

Well done Olham! That pilot you shot down is quite a pilot and an interesting character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roderic_Dallas
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 06:11 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Please capture this latest flight Olham! The 20:00 deadline is approaching!

Thanks for the reminder, Jim! Just done so!
I was so hungry after the sortie, that I had hurried out to buy everything I need for my speciasl
recepy: fried Weisswurst! Yummie!!!

Shiloh, yea, he is interesting indeed - thank you!
He is actually THE British ace I had the most fights with. No idea why, but we always seem to meet again!
First time ever, in old OFF, he shot me down.
After that, I must have shot him down ca. 6 times.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 06:41 PM

Note to all pilots: As we are not to use the WOFF medal assignments I will remove that question from the web survey questionnaire. Medals will be given by RAF_Louvert and communicated to Olham who will put them in his table which will be published here in Page 1 as usual. So you will not have that question to answer in future once I have updated the web page.

As before, you do not get points for medals anyway, even if they are pretty.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 07:16 PM

Alright, you heard, what the Major said!

Damn, Jim, tonight the drinks are all on you, my friend: 13 sorties, with an overall time of 13.13 hours...
You'll need the whole bar to knock on wood!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 09:45 PM

Just got in from the trail Jim, I have updated Charles Chatterley but If he is late I will update again next Wed.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 09:48 PM

MFair, you can update until Sunday night. I will make the next chart on Monday.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 10:09 PM

Plse note you forgot my one and only victory. smile2

No pb can wait till Sunday update.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 10:12 PM

thanks Olham, misunderstanding on my part, which, according to my wife is a regular occurance!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/25/14 11:17 PM

Charles Chatterley. June 25th. Recon Mission. 2 DH2 Escorts

It was a beautiful if not a little cloudy day for patrol. Our flight of 3 met up with the 2 escorts on time and headed for the front lines. Climbing to 9000' before crossing the lines we started our patrol. Soon the flight leader started doing some lazy S's and I knew the enemy was afoot but as usual I could not spot them. I finally spotted one to my right and a little below and slid in behind him and sent him plunging to the river below with an escort hot on his tail. I climbed and looked for my flight and could not find anyone. I circled for about 5 minutes and decided to head home but noticed some planes behind me and decided it was my flight. Big mistake! Its 3 Hun scouts. I turn tail and head west. My observer sent one packing but the other 2 stayed with me, with "Gunney" peppering them all the way. Just crossing into friendly territory he slaps me on the shoulder and points to his gun. Jammed! I stay on course until some bullets rip through the wing and I turn and go head to head with 1 of the rascals.

This took him by surprise and I was soon on his tail and sent him smoking into a heap into the town of Bailleul. An escort flew by and now I know what happened to the other Hun chasing me.

I head northwest to base but spot my flight below and heading southwest. I throttled back and dropped down with them and we landed at LaGourge. It has been a fine day! 2 Huns we will not be bothered with tomorrow.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 07:32 AM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Plse note you forgot my one and only victory. smile2

No pb can wait till Sunday update.


I didn't forget it - you forgot to capture it! Remember, I always use your LATEST web survey response. I do tend to check that your hours have increased etc but can't spot everything.

This morning Thursday got new entries from Mfair and cptroyce. They will be reported on Sunday.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 09:30 AM

Do we report on Wednesday, Sunday, or both? I surely do not want to ad to all the work Jim and Olham are doing on this wonderful campaign. Someone straighten me out here. Thanks folks!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 09:46 AM

Both Wednesday and Sunday. I collect the last results at 8pm and send them to Olham. Remember that that is 2pm in New York and 11 am in Los Angeles. Both Olham and I are on "B" time = Zulu + 2 hrs. I remember that Singapore was on "GH" time = Zulu + 7½ hrs. biggrin
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 10:37 AM

To all Pilots:

when you fill in the form for Jim_Attrill, you need to fill in the hours AND the victories
as confirmed in your pilot log.
Even if you had 1 single victory last time, and nothing had changed since then, you need to fill in
"Victories: 1" in the next report again. Otherwise it will not appear in the next chart
I receive from Jim.

That seems to be what happened in your case, Corsaire.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 12:06 PM

It seems that for some reason the data I sent last Sunday is not in the chart. It only shows the first two missions of my pilot. Maybe there's something wrong with the system? My forum name isn't even listed among the pilots there.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 12:17 PM

NOTICE TO ALL PILOTS - VERY IMPORTANT!!!

I have noticed that some pilots complain about missing data. One thing you must all remember about the web survey is that you MUST hit 'submit' at the last page. If you get there and close your browser NOTHING will result.

Butttt.... I missed HASSE's capture of Sunday 22nd. Fixed now and I can tell you that your pilot Albrecht Niemann has 4 sorties, 4.18 hours and 83.6 points. Apologies for that - I had a lot of submissions that day.

ps. you can submit data at any time - it does not have to be Wednesday or Saturday. Now will do!

And if you know that your submission was incorrect just do it again - I take the latest one for the chart.

And I will add 'Hasse' to the list of pilots so you don't have to pick "other" - this is where the problem started.

NB: medals question has been removed - RAF_Louvert will assign medals and Olham will put them in his chart.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 12:18 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Plse note you forgot my one and only victory. smile2
No pb can wait till Sunday update.


I didn't forget it - you forgot to capture it! Remember, I always use your LATEST web survey response. I do tend to check that your hours have increased etc but can't spot everything.


I know I did, but as said before it can wait.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 12:33 PM

Hmm... - if you filled in a "1" and it still doesn't show up, that's bad.
I hope it will come up next time. Otherwise we'd have a problem with the form?
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 12:38 PM

Really not a problem, Olham, you know I do it mostly for the fun. smile2
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 12:42 PM

Don't worry. I have been in the pooter business since 1981 and am used to people telling me that xyz "doesn't work". I can assure you it does work.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 12:47 PM

Good that it's not me doing that form - my computer knowledge is quite linited.
However - Jim and I will keep an eye on you, Corsaire.
And I will add your victory "manually" now - I also have 1 confirmed victory,
and so I know how "important" it is - or feels.

jamesbond
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 12:50 PM

Dammit - the error is usually sitting IN FRONT of the computer.
In this case it was me. I had simply overlooked it - it is in the chart Jim had sent to me!
Sorry about that, both Corsaire and Jim!
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 12:53 PM

Well, nobody's life depends on this, so a little mistake here and there won't hurt! smile

Thank you for your efforts, guys!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 12:58 PM

Just tested the survey and the number of victories does work. By the way, when you have completed the survey you MUST see this page:

Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 01:02 PM

Jim, this was not your fault at all - please read my last post.
I made that mistake (and don't even have an explanation really!) - I am sorry about that.

When I think about it, how easy it is to slip in a line of just one handy chart,
while transposing the data to the graphic - then I wonder how much can happen,
when you make a flight simulation! This experience has grown my respect again!

Here comes the corrected chart - hopefully right this time. If not: Sunday ain't far away.




Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 01:11 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Just tested the survey and the number of victories does work. By the way, when you have completed the survey you MUST see this page:



I've also been in the business for some years, if I said I did it, it's because I positively knew I did it. smile2

But plse also note I said from the beginning it was not very important and it could wait. I just wanted to point it out so you guys could check what went wrong. Thanks guys for your work, and Olham you know I'm ready to assist if and when needed.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 01:38 PM

Thank you, Corsaire, but now that the graphic is made, it should be routine more or less
(sometimes "less" - it could happen any time again, that I get into a wrong line and
report a wrong number for someone. Keeps you all focused on the next chart, I suppose).

Just make sure, everyone, that you fill in ALL the fields, and press the submit button in the end.
That should limit the mistakes down on - me.
Mmuahahahahaaa!!!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 01:58 PM

Well I have got past 13 sorties and hours. I have had almost no encounters with EA (as they were called) but it can't last as I am not a good pilot. But when I am deaded I shall join the RNAS in order to fly a 1½ strutter which seems to be the best 2 seater. The Fee is ok, but it has no rearward vision at all! If I survive I am due to join 24 Squadron with RAF_Louvert on DH2's. He has warned me that it is not easy to fly.....
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 02:05 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
If I survive I am due to join 24 Squadron with RAF_Louvert on DH2's.
He has warned me that it is not easy to fly.....

...and the man is so right!
Turnfighting with that rather underpowered craft is tricky, and you may easily get
into a spin, which it's hard to recover from. Rearward vision = zero, same as Fee!
So if you should really go there, my tip would be: fly the crate over and round your field
first, to get to know the craft.
Good point is the great forward vision and gun view you'd have.
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 02:34 PM

Dear sir,

One of our newest fliers, Sergeant Abel Wainright was killed today in service of the crown. He led our flight of 6 well over the lines to attack the airfield at Rumbecke. He seemed to experience engine troubles as his craft slowed way down and he quickly lost altitude. We were just 500 feet above the deck at that point as we were only 1/2 mile from our target. Rather than risk capture, Wainright attempted to turn back toward the lines, and due to the lack of power in his engine, he couldn't keep the craft airborne. I couldn't help but note the site of his demise within plain sight of the German airfield, but also a stones throw from the most beautiful French church. The sun seemed to shine down on the wreckage as if to say, he is someplace better now.

Sincerely,
Flight Commander TFN 'Teddy' Gerrard


Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 02:54 PM

Aaargh ! the titanium fence strikes again ! winkngrin
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 03:51 PM

RIP Sergeant Abel Wainright ~S~

My pilot now has over 3hours in his BBW (Roland CII) and put in for a tranfer request to Jasta 14, down in Alsace.
His nerves are unraveling....
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 03:54 PM

Damn, I am sorry for the loss of Abel, Shiloh! It is so hard to make another day.
Touching first picture...
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 05:45 PM

Thanks for your thoughts guys. It's a bummer to die that way and that was my second mission to the almost exact same spot two days in a row. My plane literally bled off altitude at an alarming rate and I had no warning other than that clunking sound that started 5 seconds before. The day before we attacked the railyard just east of Rumbecke and shot up some EIII's that took off from there to stop us. I figured they might be pretty upset if they captured me as I was about to add insult to injury in attacking their airfield after having roughed them up the day before.

I've enlisted a pilot starting tomorrow with RFC-18 flying F.E.2's. I QC'd her a few times and I'm going to try not to turn to much - especially when low - and generally try to avoid an engagement when possible. I'll introduce him later tonight or tomorrow.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 05:54 PM

Better luck with this feller, Shiloh - he sounds like he will be even more careful.
Can't be wrong in a war like this!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 06:30 PM

I am in 18 Sqn as well! The only real trouble with the Fee is the complete lack of backward visibility. You can, of course become the observer and look back over the wing but then you have to switch the pilot to AI.
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 06:44 PM

The Fee turns pretty well with flat turns, using the rudder. Well enough to take the fight to the enemy at this time. I usually fly them in Bloody April (I just like to make life hard for myself, I guess) and you can get the observer a good shooting position quite easily.

Algernon Didsworth has been injured and will next fly on 7th July (10 days).

A morning patrol over the lines near the Messines ridge saw action when my flight leader dived to attack 3 Eindeckers. It was a fight in even numbers but we had the superior machines, so I had no fear.

My flight leader was involved in a low battle with an Eindecker when the enemy I had singled out dived on him. I followed to stop Lt Noakes from being bounced, got within about 30 yards of the Eindecker and slightly off line and raked his engine until he exploded in the air!

My actions put me low over the lines and a burst of machine gun fire from the ground immediately injured me. I was able to escape and land at Bailleul Assylum, but there is no escaping the near 2 weeks in hospital I now have to face.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 06:55 PM

Gute Besserung, Maer... - aerhm - Mr. Didsworth!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 09:11 PM

Jim, Congratulations on 13 sorties in a Fe. That is a feat in itself. When I get back into a scout I will go back 24 and the DH2. I actually like this bird. If you are too hard on your rudder she will spin quick but stay light on it and she flies well.

Shiloh. Sorry to hear of the demise of your pilot. Hope to see you back in soon.

Maeran: At least the nurses are pretty, or that is what I hear.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 09:29 PM

Rescued Basel and he's still No.1 RFC.
Backed up his docs just incase this sort of thing happens again.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/26/14 10:42 PM

Two out of my last 3 missions ended in engine failure within a few minutes of takeoff. Both times I was able to land at a nearby airfield, Mercy Le Haut. Both times I could tell by my tach that the Benz wasn't up to snuff.

The other had Helmut Kunzmann leading us on a recce on the front, but he decided to chase a pair of Nieups towards their home base. I flew cap, he didn't make out so well with ground fire, but made it home.
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 04:56 AM

June 27, 1916

After an injury and enforced hiatus due to my not understanding how transfers worked, Albert Nuts is finally back in the saddle.

Our mission was...questionable. A flight of three FE2bs was to fly 40 miles north to Ypres, patrol, then come back home. We're not exactly patrol craft, and there are 8 airfields closer to Ypres, but so be it.

Still, for a two seater you have to admit the FE2b is an interesting looking machine.



Well, so be it. Somewhere south of Belieu our flight leader suddenly loses his engine. He flutters up and down like a kite. I make one, two, three passes to keep an eye on his descent and he crashes in a wheat field. Both pilot and observer are severely wounded, the craft is a loss.

So there's two of us, and no shame at all in going home, especially as following our leader down has dropped us below 2000 feet. Still, I want to complete the mission or at least get some more flying time in. On to Ypres!

Before I can even think of regaining altitude, we're approaching Belieu Wood aerodrome when I spot two dots ahead. My first thought was: Friendlies going home. Then I realized one of the dots was charging us: An E.III looking for a quick kill.

An E.III with an HA (Constantin Kreft).

I am much better at this game than I was 20 days ago. One of the things I learned, was that running away without speed superiority is an awesome way to die. Better to try to tire your opponent out. It helps I have a forward firing observer. I turn into Herr Kreft like I'm a fighter. He may or may not have fired - my observer sure did. He passed me and began climbing rapidly. I turned past him to pursue, but now he had the advantage. I kept chasing him until I was sure he wouldn't double back, then turned back towards Belieu Wood.

That's when I realized dot # 2 was below me. Another E.III HA - Max Ritter von Mulzer. Von Mulzer currently has 6 kills (including one yesterday) on the way to 10 before being slain in September.

Von Mulzer is strangely low: Perhaps 1000-1500 feet. I drop down behind him surprisingly easily, and my observer goes to work. He spins away. I momentarily lose him as he is THAT low to the ground, but manage to give my observer a leading shot. One last swipe, this time from behind sends his machine screaming towards the ground.

NOW...no flight leader, one claim, and no reason at all to continue to Ypres - except that frankly I'm enjoying myself. The FE2b isn't that hard to fly (at least until the wind picks up), so we continue.

My wingmate and I arrive at about 7000 feet altitude. The winds are harsh up here, the rain driving, and I stall/spin several times. Fortunately there's plenty of room to recover, but now I've had enough and we begin the long slog home.

While passing Belieu I once more admire the graphics:


Before landing without incident.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 10:16 AM

Congrats Catknight, using the Fee as a fighter is not so easy !

I also downed Max Ritter von Mulzer some time ago with a DH2 and made a little research on the man. Here is his grave in his hometown Memmingen (Bayern) I worked there for a couple of years, but unfortunately didn't know at the time.

Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 11:15 AM

Well done CatKnight!
And thanks for posting that Corsaire. I think it does us well to be reminded of the men bwhind the names. I like the propeller on the memorial.
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 01:55 PM

Mixed fortunes for Augustus Mueller today.

Reconnaisance sortie in area of Beuvry - East of Bethune. Jumped by 2 Ni 16's. Forced to land due to being wounded and heavy damage to the aircraft. He has been hopitalised for 6 days.

But he has been told that he has been tranfered to FS Sivry (Jasta 6)

No flying for me until 3 Jul.


Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 02:23 PM

Got your entry Beanie. You will appear in the table on Monday.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 02:27 PM

Ah, the future Jasta 6 is a unit I am thinking of.
Haven't decided about my transfer yet. Good recovery, Beanie!
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 02:57 PM

Cheers Jim, and thank you - to both you and Olham for making this happen
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 03:41 PM

Since the days of the OFF DiD camapign Jasta 6 in one of my favourite.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 06:49 PM

As you may know, RAF_Louvert is taking over the assignment of medals. In order to do this he requires to know what aircraft you are flying. So the web survey has been changed so that you can select the aircraft you are flying at the present moment. In the future, as you change squadrons/Jastas and aircraft, the history of your pilot will be kept. All the required aircraft should be in the list as I took the list from the WOFF aircraft directory. Of course, quite a few of the aircraft are not around in 1916 but I put the whole lot in so that the question can be used in future surveys. Let me know of any problems.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 08:31 PM

I flew two missions today. In the first one, nothing happened. In the second, my whole flight was shot down. I managed to make a landing, though my Aviatik was also damaged.

MFFA 2 is now grounded until July 1. Once again, I'm the only pilot left in the unit.

My Excel sheet shows that ever since I started this DiD campaign on June 17, MFFA 2 has lost eight Aviatiks, two have been damaged, and 16 pilots and observers have been killed, with two wounded. I'm sure the casualties would have been even heavier if I had been able to fly every day.

Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 10:32 PM

Jim, your records surveys are getting better and better - thank you so much!

Hasse, you must be the only remaining pilot there?
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/27/14 11:14 PM

I'm also grounded until July 1 due to lack of planes.
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 08:27 AM

June 28:

Well, that was.. Hm.

Morning flight was almost an exact copy of yesterday's jaunt. Three machines, this time with I leading, fly over to Ypres and patrol for awhile. I'm still not sure why command thinks FE2.bs are great for patrolling, but so be it.

We head straight for Ypres, gaining in altitude as we go. We never make it. Somewhere around Ballieu I notice 5 dots closing rapidly. From the east. Hm.. I just watch them for about 10 or 15 seconds, and they are definitely coming over to see what we're about.

Time to zoom.

Time to run from the squad of Eindeckers.

If I thought for a moment my wingmates would behave as fighters, I might have risked it even at 3:5 odds - yesterday left me with new found respect for my craft (at least compared to the E.III). No, I don't think this is going to work.

I spin away and dive rapidly for AA range. I'm not far from Balieu Wood/Town/Asylum, so plenty of airfields to choose from if things get too hot. For awhile the extra speed from our descent works in our favor. Two of the E.IIIs break formation and surge ahead. Then I notice one of those two turn back..then the second. I begin to turn to see if maybe I can give him a bloody nose, but the other three, still in formation, take this opportunity to close rapidly. I turn and run some more.

Over Balieu Asylum my mates decide it's time to land and get out of harm's way. I follow along, and just for the kicks I decide to play along and let the waypoints guide me in. I'm beginning my down wind leg run, when I notice one of the Eindeckers is in my way and will intercept me before I can complete the leg.

I abort and begin one of my more normal landings - much steeper flight path, but this person's coming up fast. I'm 500 feet high when the first wild shots pass around me.

Sigh. Well, there's only one. I turn into him, and it's ANOTHER fricking HA. My observer takes a few shots at him as we close rapidly. He turns away .. and I don't dare follow. We're too low, and I don't dare spend the time to climb for altitude with this joker hanging about. The Fee is far too sensitive to get into a turning duel with no room to recover if I spin out. I begin a more circumspect turn, trying to just stay ahead of his guns.

At one point he breaks left when I break right, and I use that opportunity to fly over Balieu Asylum at about 500 feet altitude. He chases me, and that's when the AA lets him have it. He turns away and I let him go.

With my two mates landed, and a squad of Eindeckers flying about looking for trouble, there is no point in trying to go on. I land at Balieu.

------------

And apparently arrive back in time to try again that afternoon. This time I'm part of a group of five on yet another patrol, this time around the town of Balieu itself. A flight follows us up, then sits over our base as we begin the long flight north.

The long, lonely flight. Driving rain - I don't know if I've seen fiercer in WOFF. Grey skies at 7000 feet, the sun nothing more than a dull orb burning through the mist and not a hint of blue. I'm frankly surprised the meteorologist didn't tell us to stay home.



Because apparently he tells everyone else. I see a grand total of one plane on our entire patrol: A dot far below and moving along the front. It didn't care about (or perhaps see) us, my flight leader didn't care about him, and I was content to practice flying in and out of formation. We completed the entire patrol, then returned home without incident.

I might have been bored, but someone came along and mauled 'A' flight cruelly. Of the four machines in their flight, three where shot down with six men killed.

I'm ready to get out of this deathtrap. I hope my transfer comes through soon.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 10:05 AM

Sounds like "Bloody April" already - good luck for your transfer, CatKnight!
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 10:41 AM

And that's how we end up with several kills on 2 seaters in 1916. AI Eindeckers routinely follow you home.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 11:13 AM

Yes, one chased me home but didn't get closer than 150m. I was surprised that he followed me so far across the lines.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 11:51 AM

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Just caught up with everyone's adventures to date. A wonderful group of reports and pics that went well with my morning cuppa'. Many thanks Gents for sharing them here.

This morning's patrol for Sergeant Burroughs was nearly an ender when he was jumped by seven Eindeckers while escorting a trio of Quirks to the north of Lens. He sent one down in pieces and another spinning OOC before he took some nasty hits and had to dive out of the melee. Landed at Hesdigneul aerodrome and was sent off to hospital immediately where he will spend some time recovering. Won't say how many days, just to add to the realism level of this most excellent campaign, but I will hint that it should be sufficient for Scout_77 to pass me up on the chart. A rather apropos spot to leave off for a while though, exactly 25 completed missions.




Fly smart everyone!

Lou

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Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 12:54 PM

Wow, Lou, Despite the hospital time you are doing very well.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 04:46 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
Won't say how many days, just to add to the realism level of this most excellent campaign, but I will hint that it should be sufficient for Scout_77 to pass me up on the chart.


Bad luck Lou. I have a long ways to go before catching up to your points score ... cursed by my lower 'medium' activity zone multiplier don't you know smile

I did just pass 20 hours, and I am pleased with that. I rarely last that long in a campaign. I credit the guy sitting behind me in my Strutter ... he does a good job of watching my back.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 04:46 PM

Arghhhhh...Basel got wounded. Only 3 days though.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 07:56 PM

I have a problem in that Anthony Agrayne managed to fly 13 sorties in a Fee and stay alive (with one victory). Then I asked for a transfer to no 24 with DH2s. Now I am scared to fly and my hands shake even if I think of going aloft. What should I do:

a) drink a bottle of whisky or two
b) drink a bottle of rum
c) stand on my head and drink a beer
d) shoot myself in the ear with a service revolver

Just go out and see what happens?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 08:12 PM

Jim, whisky and rum are rather bad cures for it, and the service revolver -
well, life is short enough, I say.
Fly many rounds with your new kite behind your airfield, and you'll feel better.
And just between you and me: I guess we all have that shiver from time to time...

Lou, I wish you a good recovery, and for the second part, when you are halfway
through it, I wish you some real cute nurses!

Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 09:10 PM

I guess my pilot is almost ready for a transfer to the funny farm! The whole Abteilung has been wiped out twice in the short time he's been serving in its ranks. Maybe I should ask for a transfer to an infantry battalion on the Somme front, I hear it's peaceful there this time of year in 1916... Can't be more dangerous than life in the naval aviation! ahoy
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 09:38 PM

Hasse, be happy - you are still alive!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 09:41 PM

Charles Chatterley was sent to bomb an airfield with 5 others. They were attacked by 5 HA (Hostile Aircraft, not Historical Ace, I have seen this in reports) over the airfield. He and his observer fought a good fight and headed west. They looked like they were in good shape and gaining altitude. They have not returned and have been reported missing. CO, RNAS5
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 09:45 PM

Just go with the shakes Jim. You can't get more immersive than that!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 09:45 PM

Oh dear! ...
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/28/14 09:59 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
I have a problem in that Anthony Agrayne managed to fly 13 sorties in a Fee and stay alive (with one victory). Then I asked for a transfer to no 24 with DH2s. Now I am scared to fly and my hands shake even if I think of going aloft. What should I do:

a) drink a bottle of whisky or two
b) drink a bottle of rum
c) stand on my head and drink a beer
d) shoot myself in the ear with a service revolver

Just go out and see what happens?


To quote Gregory Peck in Twelve O'clock High, "Your problem is you think you are going to survive this war. You think you are going to go home! From this moment on, you are dead. Once you realize that, you can do your job!"
13 sorties in a Fee is remarkable. I would be proud. Your B pilot awaits!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 05:03 AM

thumbsup

Drink a little wine then just do it. U will feel better.

Spotted a short film reminded me of returning to the Campaign.

http://youtu.be/T9P3XXvleo4
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 07:57 AM

Olham, by the look on that guys face he seems to be worried about exactly WHERE she is about to put that thermometer!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 09:45 AM

Haha, Jim, I also had a short story text in my mind about the pic:

Nurse (thinking): '106.6° Fahrenheit??? It cannot just be the light fever...!'

Patient (thinking): 'If only she knew, how much I am glowing for her...'
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 10:27 AM

Just out of interest, these are the numbers of entries I get for each WOFF DID user (not the pilot). I come top as I capture just about every sortie in order to test the system! Some zero entries have been deleted of course.

Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 11:36 AM

Thank you, Jim - shows me that I'm not too bad so far with flying sorties.
I'll add one more today and report.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 03:18 PM

My 15th sortie was a bit of a disaster as I hadn't got very far when my TrackIR stopped working. Anyway I have booked it as 0.35 hours in a Hot area. Will see what happens next time.... Here is my pilot:
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 03:25 PM

PILOT NOTES
Offzstv. Bernhard Harms - Kasta 18
Pronville, 29. Juni 1916

Weather: grey, rainy, huge thunderheads
Wind: 5 Knoten
Takeoff: 09:20 h

We circle over our reconaissance area at Bapaume, when I suddenly hear "Tacktacktack" -
MG round hitting our Roland. Bauer, my observer, fires down the right side.
To my surprise I find a British Farman Experimental, less than 50 meters below us!
Bauer hits them now, and they drive off and turn back towards their lines.
But I am really angry now, push my heavy "Walfisch"s nose down and engage the cheeky
Englishmen. I hit the engine in my first approach. It produces black smoke, then it
drops dead. Hah! Now they are the surprised ones, I think.
The pilot goes into a steep downward right spiral, to bring the craft down quick,
it seems. Maybe the tank is pierced and they fear a fire, or he might be wounded?
They try to land in no-man's land, but the Farman summersaults in the mud and wires
and breaks apart. Bauer and I find ourselves alone now - no sight of the other three
Rolands or the Aviatik. So we fly home without any further incidents.


Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 03:30 PM

Haha, I know that feller from somewhere, Jim - could it be he lives in northern England?

When your TrackIR stops working, try this: press "Pause", then unplug and replug TrackIR.
In most cases that worked for me.
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 05:05 PM

That Roland looks beautiful Olham. I may have to try a Roland with my "C" pilot. I believe I flew one in OFF many flights ago but I can't remember her characteristics. How does she fly and how many rounds in the pilots Spandau?

Nice victory. Did you see he remarks section where it said "improbable, witness was not flying at the time"?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 05:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Shiloh
That Roland looks beautiful Olham.

My friend JFM made this skin. I have yet to make it more personal.

Originally Posted By: Shiloh
How does she fly and how many rounds in the pilots Spandau?

She behaves nicely; no strange characteristics. Heavier than a scout of course.
But if you know her better, you can boom and zoom quite well in her.
The downward view is quite bad. You have to wagg your wings at landing, to check
if the airfield is clear, and then you let her "drop into the field" blind.
But I got used to that quickly.
The rounds I think are 500 - not sure.

Originally Posted By: Shiloh
Nice victory.
Did you see he remarks section where it said "improbable, witness was not flying at the time"?

Yes, that came because in the post-flight "Details" board, the first names were not given,
and so I wrote "Hauptmann Baermann".
I'm hoping it will get confirmed. I had such a problem before and wrote "Balloon Troops"
for witness - and it got conbfirmed.
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 06:21 PM

I know she's a stout bird as I've faced her many times and she maneuvers well for a two-seater but thanks for the first-hand experience. I don't like not having a gun in my hands in a two-seater as sometimes the observer can't hit the side of a barn so that's another reason to like her. The white looks so clean and I was never a fan of the green/brown or camo look I've seen on so many Rolands.

On the claims, I usually just put in the last name of the witness on reports and I can't remember the last time I didn't have a victory confirmed. If I don't have a witness I usually put "ground forces" or "observation balloon crew" if I'm near one of them.

I'm going to have to work on my evil laugh if I'm flying on the dark side next time around...Muuuuhooohaaahaaahaahaaaaaaaaaaa! salute
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 06:24 PM

Well - ll ... almost good... !
Mmuahahahahaaa!!!

Edit: Shiloh, the Roland's forward MG carries 550 rounds.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 07:58 PM

My 9th sortie went a bit hairy again, after some quieter trips.
We had to do some art.obs. south of Arras, but there were Nieuport 11 or 16 above the area.
They attacked my comrades at 2000 meters, while I was higher up. I counted at least three
of the little devils, and so I rushed down to drive them off.
I really hit one of the Nupes, and the Frenchman was quite shocked and headed west.

Only when I turned, he tried to get after me. I turned and hit his craft hard enough, that
he lost some feathers and turned away again.
But now - Razz! Zapp! Pew! Tonk! Tonk! - I collected hits on my Roland. An Airco DH-2 came
down on me like the devil in a lift!
My engine lost power, and I went down steeply and away from the lines.
I reduced throttle, and the craft sank lower and lower. I wouldn't reach Riencourt, and so
I decided to put it down east of Croisilles.
From the ground we watched how Hptm. Baermann drove the DeHavilland back over the lines.

Later we heard, that Observer Neugebauer had shot one Nieuport down.
Also, my second victory - the one over the Farman - got confirmed! Hptm. Baermann sent our
ZbV Reithmann to organise some Champagne to celebrate our victories this evening!


Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 08:21 PM

I am moving to a new house, so I will be without Internet connection for 2-3 weeks. I will be flying as soon as possible, in the meantime, stay safe up there and come back home in one piece. Good luck guys!
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 08:23 PM

Hope the move goes well. Safe journey to you and your family.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 08:27 PM

Congrats, Olham

Especially on getting the big girl down safely with a bad Benz.

I put my BBW down here one day last week after saying a prayer.


Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 08:40 PM

Originally Posted By: ArisFuser
I am moving to a new house, so I will be without Internet connection for 2-3 weeks. I will be flying as soon as possible, in the meantime, stay safe up there and come back home in one piece. Good luck guys!

Hope the move goes well Aris, we will keep a spot at the mess for you.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 08:48 PM

Don't let all those boxes overwelm you, ArisFuser
Eat your elephant one bite at a time
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 08:51 PM

All the best for your move, Aris!

Ha, a church AND a cemetery... just in case...
Good one, MudWasp!

Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 09:10 PM

Great reports guys ... lots of activity out there.

Here's the view from my cockpit as we headed out over Dunkirk yesterday on a rainy artillery spotting mission. A rather beautiful vista on an otherwise dreary flight.

Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 09:32 PM

Beau-ti-ful!
The North Sea coast might well be my next pilot's field of operation, if Bernhard Harms should fall.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 09:42 PM

I miss Sophie, my Sopwith...but rolling and diving in my Baby Blue Whale, BBW, is better than I expected.

Hopefully my transfer to Jasta 14 down in Alsace goes through soon. Been practicing in the EIII with a quick combat pilot. I named my EIII Squirrelly Shirley, SS, for short.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 10:27 PM

In Alsace with an EIII, you will mostly have to fight mountains. smile2
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/29/14 10:36 PM

Beautiful screen shot Scout. It could be picture, and a nice one at that!
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 12:05 AM

June 29

My first mission in the early morning was to patrol the nearby airfield of Savy, some 3 miles distant. We were a flight of five.

At first it looked like we were going to be bounced, as I noticed these chaps above and behind us as I climbed out to 1,000 feet.



They were definitely German, but not that interested in us. Four flew right over my airfield, but I didn't see any bombs go off. The fifth followed us for a bit, but apparently decided he didn't want to fly that low against all of us and took off.

The rest of the patrol was...dull. We saw no one until the very end, when I noticed eight planes approaching Savy. I zoomed in and learned they were friendlies: BE2cs escorted by Airco DH2s.

---------

I returned and there was a driver waiting to take me to RFC 70 in Fienvillers. Apparently my transfer went through. The Sopwith Strutter, though still a two-seater, is a huge step up from the Fee.

We immediately went out to recon, and I was given command of a flight of four. No problem, except one of my peeps had some sort of engine trouble. He refused to turn back, but steadily lost ground. Which, in the end, turned out to be the problem.

We arrived over the front lines, and I decided instead of just cruising back and forth while the 21 minute timer ran out, I'd turn more or less in place until # 4 could catch us. So I banked sharp left.

Crunch.

Tear.

FIRE!

I collided with a wingmate, who was apparently unharmed. The same could not be said for myself.



Albert was still at 20% health, so I tried to stay with it and see if I could somehow glide to safety. No dice. My engine had failed in the collision and I couldn't get lift from my wings. Then around 3,000 feet my 'health' updated to 0% as the flames caught me. Then at 1,000 feet another crunch/tear as my wings sheared off.

Ouch.

So ends Albert Nuts. He lived just long enough to get out of the Fee, to realize the Strutter can kill you too.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 12:13 AM

R.I.P. Albert Nuts ~S~
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 01:30 AM

Ouch, bad luck there CatKnight. A sharp bank to the left (or right) will take you right into the path of flight-members if you are leading a standard vee formation. But with a name like 'Nuts', we kind of expect a few crazy maneuvers (grin). Call you next pilot Bertam Slowbanker? smile
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 02:18 AM

Prudence Doublechecker...
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 03:29 AM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
In Alsace with an EIII, you will mostly have to fight mountains. smile2


Yes, I Love flying bush planes in FSX, but never have to worry about being shot down by other planes.
Squirrelly Shirley needs Tundra tires!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 04:04 AM

sigh
Catknight:

Wow, Roasted nuts winkngrin
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 04:10 AM

Augustus Snodgrass
Sergent, Rfc
20 Sqn


29 Jun 16.

A slight matter over my Taylor Bill and the local police came up. I will be slightly delayed returning to 20 Sqn. I should arrive on the 1st of July.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 09:38 AM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
Originally Posted By: corsaire31
In Alsace with an EIII, you will mostly have to fight mountains. smile2


Yes, I Love flying bush planes in FSX, but never have to worry about being shot down by other planes.
Squirrelly Shirley needs Tundra tires!


Me too, I run an Air Hauler company in western Canada / Alaska. I fly a C185 Skywagon with tundra wheels among other planes.
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 09:49 AM

Can not wait until I can get back to flying - my nurse doesn't seem to have a sense of humour!

Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 11:58 AM

Beanie - did you fly in different sectors with your active pilot?
If not, the hours must only be filled in for the zone, to which your airfield belongs.
It does not matter, where your actual sorties led you, okay?

Your nurse looks like the right stuff to make pilots ready for duties as quick as possible!
Mmuahahahahaaa!!!

CatKnight, damn, that looks horribel - rest in peace, Albert Nuts!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 12:41 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Originally Posted By: MudWasp
Originally Posted By: corsaire31
In Alsace with an EIII, you will mostly have to fight mountains. smile2


Yes, I Love flying bush planes in FSX, but never have to worry about being shot down by other planes.
Squirrelly Shirley needs Tundra tires!


Me too, I run an Air Hauler company in western Canada / Alaska. I fly a C185 Skywagon with tundra wheels among other planes.


I've thought about those type of addons quite a bit. I basically do it in my mind by overloading planes and making resort drop offs, adjusting the payload after landing. Don't have the C185, sure looks nice though. I do have Carenado's C337. Aerosoft's Beaver, Twotter and PBY... Flight Replica's cub package, and super cub...Real Air's ACA Scout packages are my favorites. Aside from the stock Goose and Maule Orion. Real Air's FW-190 and Spitfire are my speedsters.

Do you have any of the Orb-X addons? I've thought about them quite a bit. I'm using Tongass Fjords, some Aerosoft airports, UTX and GEX stuff, and several good freeware rural scenery addons.
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 12:52 PM

Olham apologies - my hours should currently be for medium. scuseme

Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 12:57 PM

DiD Campaign Chart for 30 June, 1916 / 2014

Gentlemen, we have to bemoan more losses among the DiD Campaign Pilots;
there will be more empty chairs in the messes.
Remember, everyone - this is no race to win, nor will points or medals make the fallen alive again.
Fly determined and with bravery, but also with good awareness and common sense.






Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 01:06 PM

DiD Campaign Medal Awards - 30 June 1916

The commander of No. 24 Squadron, RFC, Major Hawker, enters the mess, where the pilots are all assembled at the long table.
All pilot rise from their chairs, while the Major speaks to them.

"Gentlemen, we have amongst our ranks a young flyer, who received an awards for his recent achievements with our fine squadron.
I want to read to you this letter I received from High Command!"




"Let me be the first to congratulate you to this award, Sergeant Burroughs - you well deserved this!"


In a similar event as the above, the commander of No. 13 Squadron, RFC, reads the following letter to
Sergeant Algernon Didsworth at the airfield Savy. He congratulates him and hands to him the
British Military Medal with the King's letter.






Furthermore, the recipient RAF_Louvert has flown more than 25 hours now, for which he receives the

WOFF DiD Campaign Medal for 25 Hours







Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 01:39 PM

Congratulations Lou! That is a most deserved medal.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 02:40 PM

For info I fly a Strutter at RNAS 4. I usually don't fly on the week end, so will send next report on Wednesday.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 02:41 PM

Spiffy medals LOU

Congrats to All who flew

Olham, really like the aircraft column. I couldn't remember who was flying what before it was created.
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 03:12 PM

Well done Lou salute
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 03:16 PM

Guys, the "aircraft" column is a good idea indeed, me thinks!
It was introduced by Jim_Attrill; Jim's running the whole online-records business.
And I am SOOO glad he does - I don't know where I would have ended without his help.
Bailleul Asylum would be one possible address - and I don't mean the airfield... dizzy
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 03:24 PM

Thanks Jim!
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 03:31 PM

looks great
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 04:09 PM

Well done RAF_Louvert!

I'm still out of action for another week (7th July). Do you want me to submit a report with the new aircraft field on Jim_Atrill? Otherwise, 29 RFC fly early DH2s at the present time.

10 days is a long time to be out of action. My test pilot is seeing a lot of QC action.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 04:32 PM

Maeran, what I do is take the LATEST report that you submit. So if you want to submit a new report with the same no of hours and sorties as before but with the new aircraft data and squadron data then that is the one I will use. The report must have the total hours and sorties for the pilot as reported by WOFF. The difficulty comes if, like myself, you move squadrons and go to a different region with a different score per hour. You have to keep track of that yourself. In any case, the total hotspot + medium + quiet hours must equal the total hours.

You are not allowed to change your difficulty level (A, B or C) because it is then impossible to calculate your points. If your pilot dies you start from scratch and then can change that level. Well, we would have to ask the SWO about that!
Good luck for when you get out of dock!
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 04:39 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill


You are not allowed to change your difficulty level (A, B or C) because it is then impossible to calculate your points. If your pilot dies you start from scratch and then can change that level. Well, we would have to ask the SWO about that!
Good luck for when you get out of dock!


Thanks Jim. I believe this part relates to me as I just sent you a PM to the fact.
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 05:28 PM

Not that it matters much since he's passed on, but Albert Nuts' final hour total was 7.70, all hot, with 8 sorties and 1 victory
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 05:33 PM

Originally Posted By: CatKnight
Not that it matters much since he's passed on, but Albert Nuts' final hour total was 7.70, all hot, with 8 sorties and 1 victory


You can enter that Cat and then mark him as 'deceased' so you can go on the 'best dead pilot section' at the bottom of the chart.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 07:53 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - 30 June 1916

Mission this morning is reco over enemy ground troops east of Ypres. Flight is 6 Strutters, weather beautiful and clear.

We fly to our reco zone and as we near the front we spot 3 Sopwith Tripes of RNAS 1 on patrol above us... can be useful ! ( gives me an idea for a transfer, I love that plane )

As we make our second pass over the target zone at 9000 ft, 4 Eindeckers on patrol have spotted us and climb to intercept. My leader doesn't hesitate and dives on them ! I stay above the fight and go down from time to time to clear a friend's tail. 10 planes at the same spot make me fear for collisions, and this is what happens ! Hoffman's Strutter goes down in flames together with one of the Einies.

We go further down to a point where I start getting hits from ground fire, so I climb back again. The three remaining Fokkers are sent down by my team mates and we reform. The Tripes never saw anything and stayed up there. We return to Coudekerque without any other event.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 08:25 PM

.

Originally Posted By: Maeran
Well done RAF_Louvert!


And well done to you Maeran and your DID flyer Sgt. Algernon Didsworth on the award of the Military Medal. Looks like Algernon and Artemus are buying the drinks tonight!

Many thanks all for the kind words. Bar's open! beercheers

.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 09:03 PM

Drinkies?! I'll come round once the match Germany vs Algeria is over!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 06/30/14 09:58 PM

.

pssssst ... Olham ... I think you may have started drinking a wee bit early Sir. You have Maeran's Military Medal in the wrong row on your records sheet.

bottles

.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 12:24 AM

I have to say this Campaign has made me a better sim pilot. I can fly in formation now without keeping a constant eye on my wing mate and my navigation skill are improving. The biggest thing, I think is the defensive flying. I have learned a lot by reading your reports. Lots of good info in them, even if I forget to practice it all the time. Thanks again folks. Its a blast!
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 12:47 AM

I like this campaign as well MFair and agree that it's making me a better, smarter pilot. It's about doing your duty but it's also about survival. It's getting me away from that killfest mentality I've had for so long and reminding me that I need to get home to my loved ones when the war is over. With my first pilot I should have landed in Hunland and been taken prisoner. It's a good, sound decision in real life to choose life and captivity over death as I would have spent two years in prison but likely would have survived the war.

I've been navigating with Lou's maps (thank you) for the first time, flying with no aids whatsoever and it's been really challenging but I think I'll get used to it and be better for it.

Have fun all and stay smart up there. thumbsup
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 08:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Shiloh
Originally Posted By: CatKnight
Not that it matters much since he's passed on, but Albert Nuts' final hour total was 7.70, all hot, with 8 sorties and 1 victory


You can enter that Cat and then mark him as 'deceased' so you can go on the 'best dead pilot section' at the bottom of the chart.



Uhm...I did, or I wouldn't be bringing it up.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 09:17 AM

July 1, 1916 We have enough planes to fly again

Another artillary spotting mission with the two Helmults. Thank God I'm not flight leader and that we have EIIIs assisting. Everything went well and all of us from Kasta 34b made it home safe. Can't say the same for a couple of the EIIIs though. Saw one go down fight off some Nieups as we approached the front. Another left the fight trailing engine smoke. The artillary men were happy to hear that they were hitting their mark.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 09:40 AM

You pointed something out there, CatKnight - I had left the fallen as they were last time,
thinking nothing had changed.
But there were new final data for two or three flyers in the last records chart I got
from Jim, which I had not respected.

Also, there needs to be a line over the names, which tells what the numbers stand for.
I will work it out new and update soon. Sorry.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 11:18 AM

Sub Lnt, Charles Chatterley and his observer Evans arrived at the airfield last night tired and hungry. He reported that after the attack over the airfield when they were attacked by 5 EA and headed west, all was fine until they were attacked by 4 more about 5 miles from the front lines. He said it was one of the most intense fights he has had. His observer, Evans , was doing all he could to hold them off but when more than 1 would line up on his six, Chatterley said he would turn and try to get a shot at one, turn back west and the chase would be back on. Drove them all back but 1 so he turned to take him on and sent him packing as well. Turned west with the lines in the distance feeling very well and then the engine quit! Set her down in a field next to some woods and both scampered into the woods to plan their next move. Moving at night and hiding by day they made it across that God forsaken mud to friendly lines. CO says to get some food and get cleaned up and some rest, we go on patrol tomorrow! Bloody war!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 01:37 PM

DiD Campaign Records

The mistakes in the R.I.P. Chart are now (hopefully) all corrected.
As I was at it, I also changed/improved it a bit more - hope you like it.

I want to add another column in the "DiD Campaign Chart" - "Nationality".
Here every simmer would enter, from which country his pilot comes.
Germans are usually just from Germany of course, but the British pilots could actually be
from Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and godknowswhere else.
And since some of us live in one of these countries, I thought it might be a nice addition.
Haven't told Jim yet - I hope he won't strangle me!

PS: the previous column "Nation" will then be called "Air Force", so we still see where
everyone is flying. What do you think about that?

PPS: for the already fallen pilots you could add their nationality.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 01:57 PM

Yeah Olham, that would be a nice addition.

Why is there a section for DiD medals when we have Lou's spiffy medals?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 02:02 PM

The flyers will receive the historical medals, as they happened in the Great War.
And then Lou had also made a set of our own medals for the DiD Campaign.
The ribbons of these will be shown in the column "DiD Medal".
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 02:20 PM

I thought Jim took out the part of the survey about WOFF medals.


I'll update Aarik Bachmeier and check.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 02:28 PM

I updated Aarik's stats via the survey.

There is no question concerning WOFF medals awarded to the DiD pilot.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 03:29 PM

Ok I can do 'nationality'. For me the best would be a 'radio button' list but that would be impossible because there were some Americans with the French and some with the British etc. So it would have to be a text entry of about 10 characters or so. Let me know what is wanted. I am not really sure that it is useful but it is up to you - the pilots!

And you are all right - I took out the medals bit of the survey so if you have complaints send them to Olham and RAF_Louvert neaner
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 03:41 PM

MudWasp, just forget thinking about the medals, okay?
Every pilot will receive medals according to Lou's chart; so you don't have to care about them.

Jim, I wanted to contact you about the change, but the telephone just kept me occupied all afternoon.
The additional entry could be "Pilot Nationality" or so; and the old "Nation" would now better be
called "Air Force" or "Flying for" or so.
It is not particularly useful - I just thought it might add some colour to the bunch, and it might
be nice - if you are Canadian or South African - that you can have that reflected in the chart,
although you fly for the RFC.
Posted By: Rover_27

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 03:45 PM

Hello gentlemen,

Been away for a while. I see you added a column for aircraft. Mine is still BE2 and I'm still waiting for my transfer request to be approved
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 03:52 PM

Chart was still wrong - I updated it again. Gawd, I HATE charts and numbers!
Could anyone remind me, why I started this? Was it anything like "fun"? wacky
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 03:56 PM

Rover, your latest capture on the web will show your latest aircraft. It doesn't matter too much and was asked for by RAF_Louvert for the award of medals. I suppose that your exploits in a BE2c would be worth more as you would be lucky to even stay alive! I know because one of my pilots has about 70 hours in one - but that was in early 1915 when there seemed to be no EA about. In this DID campaign of June 1916 the BE2c is not easy to fly in.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 04:18 PM

I gotcha on the medals thing, Olham.

Just pointing out that there is no need for the WOFF medals column, and no current way of capturing such info as that survey question is eliminated. Therefore it should be eliminated.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 04:43 PM

MudWasp, you don't get it.
Not WOFF decides in the "DiD Campaign", if and when anyone gets a medal;
so we deleted the medals from the survey.
Those decisions are made after a more realistic chart, made by RAF_Louvert.
And Lou will valuate the data and tell me, who will receive what.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 05:15 PM

Yeah, the WOFF medals are being ignored so we don't need to report them, but Olham is still reporting the medals that Lou gives out here in the thread. That's why we still have a medals column in the chart. Some day I hope to actually have something in my column other than empty space!

On a separate but more general note, this challenge seems to be having the effect on me that Olham was going for; the more hours I get the more fearful I am becoming. I am so close to 25 hours now I can taste it, but I am so scared of dying and losing it all that I actually feel a sinking feeling in my stomach as I prepare to fly. (That's a good thing!)
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 05:20 PM

popcorn soapbox

77 Scout Take another drink ,and U will feel better.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 05:32 PM


imgupload

Dawn Patrol : Took 3 a/c B flight to the lines and back. Top cover was late arriving to the lines so we didn't spot them till after we headed home. They were still going to the target area. After landing, only one a/c came back from 1 st flight. 1 a/c destroyed, ( Both KIA) one wnd and forced down with a gunner killed. I say , Bad luck.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 05:41 PM

Scout, I didn't want us to get that "sinking feeling" - but it comes anyway.
All I wanted to create with Jim's and Lou's great assistance, was a campaign experience together with like-minded flyers,
where the bias is all on survival and the permanent awareness of the threats of life everywhere around us -
while victories, promotions and medals are only just by-products of all the struggling.
Not unimportant ones though - we all want to receive awards for our hardships.
But firstly we just need to survive - it is a long way to the hundred hour mark, and to the "Blue Max" or it's Entente
equivalent. So long, that we can really only fly most careful and aware to have a chance at all.

And if it comforts you a little - I am already now beginning to feel that cold fear, when I climb into my crate -
with still less than 10 hours on my slate...
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 06:18 PM

Ok, Now I understand.
I had been thinking that one column was for Lou's medals and the other for WOFF.

It all makes sense now.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 07:16 PM

I flew one mission today. Completely uneventful. A nice change of pace after seeing the whole Abteilung wiped out by Sopwith Tripes which in real life weren't even in service in squadron strength in June 1916!

My pilot has now flown 7 missions and 9 hours. No kills, as expected. Just staying alive is enough for me!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 07:24 PM

Alright, MudWasp, it wasn't my day either - I made three corrections for the chart.
That scramble egg I use for a brain... maybe add some salt & pepper? ...

Carrick, you "iron-bum" - when I meet you in my Roland, we can have a battle!
Do you have a forward gun? You are doing fine - carrick on!

Hasse, I just had an hour-long art.obs. trip, where I had to lead 3 more Rolands.
Damn, that was my first bigger lead, and I felt VERY uncomfortable - planes left and right
of me - I had to pay double attention all the time. And on return to base we even got jumped.
I though by a Bristol, which we had seen lower before. But it was a Strutter two-seater,
and he attacked us. When I swung round and took him on, he suddenly ran!
I emptied my whole magazine after him, and - really! - the Blighter sinks and has to put
his kite down on a meadow! My third victory!
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 07:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Scout, I didn't want us to get that "sinking feeling" - but it comes anyway.


I probably could have said it better than I did ... not focusing on the sinking feeling, but just to say that my sim-life now feels important to me. I can feel a hint, however small, of what it might have been like to know that you can die at any time, to fly with a heightened sense of awareness, to be on edge and constantly looking behind you. It makes a great simulation just that much better!

And yeah, I might need that stiff drink Carrick!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 09:14 PM

My apologizes Olham, for giving you a headache.
I'm buying you a beverage of your choice.

I was thinking you could eliminate a column. Now I think I understand....

The far right column is for Lou's awards for living hours/ staying alive that come in 25 hour increments.
The column to the left of that is for Lou's awards that are similar to the WOFF awards.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 09:38 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - 01 July 1916

We have only 4 flyable planes. I form flight B with Lt Carpenter, the two other planes form flight A. We will meet our escort of Airco DH2s on the way to our recon zone over ground units, south east of Armentières across the Lys river.

As we finish our first overflight, we spot two Eindeckers under us climbing our way. Carpenter goes on all out attack. Being more careful, I stay up a little time while our escort DH2s catch up and join the fight. Bad news for the Einis, one of them goes down, the other one goes home. Carpenter and his observer have been hit and wounded and fly at low altitude towards the nearest airfield at La Gorgue, and I follow them higher up. Good idea, as three Fokkers on patrol nearby start chasing Carpenter. We get to La Gorgue airfield and when Carpenter takes the landing pattern the three Eindeckers form a trail line behind his plane, while the AA starts firing at them.

I dive down behind the Fokkers which make the mistake of staying target fixed on Carpenter. I fire at them one after the other at close distance. The first one breaks and heads home, the two other ones will go down and crash near the airfield.

I land at La Gorgue with Carpenter, and fill out my claim forms.
July 2 will be no-mission day as we don't have enough flyable planes, the two Strutters of flight A are reported missing. We will take our planes back to Coudekerque after repair.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 10:17 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
My apologizes Olham, for giving you a headache.
I'm buying you a beverage of your choice.

Okay - I'll have a huge Mango-Lassi with vanilla ice cream in it!

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
Now I think I understand....
The far right column is for Lou's awards for living hours/ staying alive that come in 25 hour increments.
The column to the left of that is for Lou's awards that are similar to the WOFF awards...

...and which were the real life awards of those day. Correct now, MudWasp!

Corsaire, you are flying from La Gorgue? Did you meet Arthur G. Lee yet? MUST fly there with the Pups and Lee and Courtnidge and all the others one day! ...

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Here is a comic from my latest adventures with Kasta 18 (my shooting down of the Strutter is missing completely -
to be honest I was in "white-knuckle & jaw-biting mode" and forget to take screenshots).
Before anyone threatens me to draw me to court for copyright reasons, let me remind you that we used to make
such comics with this same technique and effects already in the old OFF Forum - they might be still there...





Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 10:49 PM

Olham I am flying from Coudekerque, but since my flight leader made an emergency landing at La Gorgue which was the closest airfield, I also landed there after I saved his arse. smile2

Great report ! We are getting near to works of art !
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 11:03 PM

Thank you, Corsaire!
Damn, yeah, I should have read the WHOLE text first.
Coudekerke - that is almost like my nativ Frisian language.
It means "Cold church", if I'm right.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 11:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Coudekerke - that is almost like my nativ Frisian language.
It means "Cold church", if I'm right.


You are right. Written Coudekerque in french and Koudekerke in flamisch.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/01/14 11:41 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Olham I am flying from Coudekerque, but since my flight leader made an emergency landing at La Gorgue which was the closest airfield, I also landed there after I saved his arse. smile2

Great report ! We are getting near to works of art !

Corsaire, I am also flying out of Coudekerque and while I was missing the cute little farm girl that lives in the farm house about a mile southeast of the base told me you had come by to see her. I have been giving her cigarettes and chocolate for a few weeks now trying to win her charms. I will have to keep an eye on you bud! But as they say, all is fair in love and war.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 04:50 AM

Olham, I love your comic book style report. Very cool!

Happy to report that I have made it past 25 hours. I can now exhale after holding my breath for the last two missions.



Corsaire and MFair ... that farm girl is cute, but the girls in Dunkirk are more wordly. We should all go into town one of these days. smile
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 06:08 AM

Olham: VERY nice comic!
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 07:23 AM

July 2, 1916

I've thought I might use Jim's idea for getting through the war: Namely, switch to the squad that killed your last character, and so forth. Well, since RFC 70 killed Albert, and they fly 2-seaters anyway...



Meet Bilbo Baggins, from some little known country town. Other than a strange desire to acquire rings and throw them into fires, he's no trouble to his new mates.

Guy Cruikshank (HA) led a flight of 6 Strutters to Toelus, east of Arras, to recon. We reached there, though one had to turn back due to a bad engine. We did have a minor scare when I spotted an enemy patrol flying low.



Later on I spotted two E.IIIs, but as they were near ground level and we were passing 12K, no one paid attention to each other.

I was getting a bit bored and swerving my way in and out of formation when abruptly Cruikshank dived, taking the flight with him. I scrambled in pursuit and learned they were in a 5:3 fight with Eindeckers.

I managed to get a few solid shots into Konstain Krefft (HA) making him veer a few times. He swerved under me and ran. I executed a wide turn to begin the pursuit. So did three of my companions. Boelcke would not have approved.

I fired a few more shots into him, but I spent half my time NOT shooting my companions and drifting out of their flight path. One of my friends passed me on the right and delivered the final blow that sent Krefft spinning to the ground.

Everyone turned back, but ahead I saw two dots. More Eindeckers, I assumed. We were down low now, about 3,000 feet, and I didn't want to get caught by surprise so went over to take a look. It turns out to be one E.III (Alfred Osterreicher HA) versus a Strutter, and Osterreicher had the advantage.

Well, I couldn't let that happen. I swung in behind the Eindecker and fired a steady stream into his rear. He swerved away. I chased him. And so forth.

Presently the battle dipped below 1,000 feet. I kept firing, making Osterreicher turn, but I just couldn't end it. Every time I considered letting him go, he used the breathing space to turn and try and engage my Strutter friend who was trying to help but wholly ineffectual. I'd dropped my throttle after a speed warning while diving into the initial fray, now I revved the engine fearing I'd careen into the ground.

Once we passed over a German factory, and I'm pretty sure someone on the ground pinged me. Not bad though.

The last Strutter turned back. It was just me and Osterreicher, some 10 miles behind the front lines at 700 feet. My patience paid off: Torn fabric. A few more bursts - I was down to 83 bullets. Osterreicher tried for a forced landing but couldn't hold it together and crashed.

Time to go home. I fled across the border, but saw no one else. My companions were already in landing patterns as I approached the field.

One mission, one kill.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 08:19 AM

Thanks, all!

What's all that about farm girls? We don't even have any farms at Pronville,
and the local village girls - well, I think I'm more with Scout: I'll drive
to Cambrai on my next free day - perhaps they have some more "city style".

Damn, Mr. Baggins from Bagginsend, Shire - you stepped right into Mordor it seems.
You better beware - the Ring can make YOU invisble, but not your aircraft.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 10:47 AM

Scout, congratulations Sir! Now go for 50!
Olham, What? City style? Your missing out!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 11:24 AM

Scout, congrats to your 25 plus hours - looks like you're in for a medal and ribbon with one silver bar!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 02:42 PM

I am sending the results as of Wednesday to Olham now...
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 03:10 PM

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Send them to me too please, Jim. Thanks.

Well done Scout, you are now a member of the '25 Hour Club' ! cheers

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Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 03:20 PM

Hey RAF_lou they are on the CombatAce forum to you as a PM as agreed with you and the SWO.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 03:27 PM

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Aaah yes, roger that Jim. My memory is good, but short.

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Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 05:44 PM

yes, definitely well done Scout!

As far as the sailor boys there chasing milkmaids. Here's a gramophone record for you.



Jolly Good Luck To The Girl Who Loves A Soldier
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 07:08 PM


image upload

Short Hop to the lines: Spotted a lone Hun below our flight ( 6 a/c 9000ft) Dove in a banking turn down to 5000ft then noticed that the 1 a/c had turned into 3 Fokker s. Ran for my side of lines since the rest of B flight never notice that I was gone. After Archie opened fire 2 of the Huns split for Hunland. Turning to fight, my lone enemy a/c also turned for home. I came to within 800 yrds but couldn't get closer so gave up And RTB
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 09:40 PM

July 2, 1916

Dear Father,

Before anything else, I'm in the hospital but I'm alright. We were tasked with supporting our troops and we were sent way behind the lines at a German airfield called Avelin. It was eerily quiet for most of our flight but my sixth sense told me things were about to change. The light was failing as it was roughly 1930 hours and I thought I saw some black specks to the east. When we were close to Avelin, I led our flight around to get in a good position to fire.

Sure enough there were two enemy Roland CII's and they were not too happy to see us in their backyard. We were four, but these craft they give us leave much to be desired. They're slow and I can't even fire a gun for Pete's sake! They attacked and shot us up pretty good. I felt a burning pain in my back and knew I was hit and I heard my observer Omar Swithin call out in pain.

I dove for the lines and two of our three craft followed. I didn't know where Wright and Rodden were and I assume they got caught up in the fight behind us. The sun was quickly going down, I was losing blood at an alarming rate and all I could think about was getting back home. I thought about my times as a child when you and I used to fish down by the river. I believe that kept me alive as many times I was close to passing out.

As we approached Bruay the sun was just dipping below the horizon and it took all my remaining strength to bring the bird down. It was tough to see with all the blood on my goggles. As I rolled toward the hangars I lost consciousness and the next thing I knew I was in a hospital. I was told my injuries were not life-threatening and my stay would be roughly 10 days. I learned that Wright and Rodden were killed but not before downing one of the two Rolands.

I put in for my transfer to RFC-32 as I want to be a fighter pilot, not a damn chauffeur. They fly these stout craft called Airco DH2's and other than their nasty tendency to spin, they're pretty stout.

All my best to mother and please tell her not to worry. We Calderwood's our made from the good strong stuff.

Your son,
Basil






Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 09:51 PM

Nice AAR Shiloh, looks like you almost needed the headlights for landing ! Have a nice break with the nurses !
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/02/14 11:18 PM

Congrats to you Scout on your 25 hours and thanks corsaire. You quietly have a nice campaign going there carrick. Good luck to Bilbo CatKnight in his scraps over the shire.

I'm patiently waiting for my transfer so I can get into the Airco DH2's with RFC-32. I QC'd them and myself and my mates shredded some Fokker EIII's so I know she's capable. I did get into the 'death spin' at one point so I learned that about the DH2. I actually put in for a transfer after the first mission as I know it can take a long time but I wish there was a way to say, "I want to transfer now so sign the damn paperwork!"
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 01:37 AM

Nice report Shiloh; too bad about the injury. So you were attacked by Rolands? Wow, I didn't know Rolands would be aggressive like that.

I see that you have moved up into the 'A' group with this new pilot; nice. That's one more hardcore pilot in the mix!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 08:58 AM

Olham pointed out to me that there was something wrong with the chart I sent him. I have been having strange things happening on my computer which caused a file to mysteriously "go missing". I recreated the chart and lost the 'aircraft' column and a few entries were out of date. This morning the missing file mysteriously reappeared but was also out of date, so I have checked on the validity of all the data. And will now send it off to Olham. It will take a while for him to do the graphics bit including medals and awards.

The following pilots were affected:

Corsaire31, Maeran, MudWasp, Olham, Shiloh and 77Scout.

NO DATA has been lost however. The fault is mine although I blame Bill Gates and his merry men. attack
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 09:28 AM

Jim, good to hear that nothing was lost - and it comforts me to see, that even more
experienced men like you have to face occasional "strange behaviour of the machine".

. . .mycomputer

I will now download your records chart and update the graphic.
All affected pilots, pls doublecheck your data, and we shall be fine.


Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 11:48 AM

Okay, we think we have caught up with everything now, and so we can present the updated chart here.
If you still see single values wrong, just check again in the Sunday chart - there they should be
corrected then by your own latest inputs.

*** ***

No. 5 Squadron, RNAS, Coudekerque, 3 July 1916, 16 h

Flight Sub-Lieutenant Albert Addleson, just returning from a short bathing excursion to the
North Sea beach at Dunkerque, is getting called up by the officer of the day.
"Please go to the Commander's office, Sir, he has something for you!"

And this is what the commander hands to him:



Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 11:57 AM

...and here comes the updated chart... Click on the graphic to enlarge.
As always, the chart is also updated in post #1 of this thread.




Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 01:22 PM

Scout, Congratulations on your accomplishment and the medal. Also thanks to Olham, Jim, and Lou for this adventure!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 02:14 PM

Thanks Mfair (and others!). I must get some flying in as I have been too busy doing other stuff for a while. I am a bit worried about flying the DH2 in a 'hotspot' though. Oh well, let's see what happens...
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 02:31 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Thanks Mfair (and others!). I must get some flying in as I have been too busy doing other stuff for a while. I am a bit worried about flying the DH2 in a 'hotspot' though. Oh well, let's see what happens...


As long as you have Eindeckers on the other side, you will shoot them like fish in a barrel without doing any fancy manoeuvres. Enjoy until September and the arrival of the first Albatros !
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 02:42 PM

As you pilots might have gathered I am not a good SIM pilot at all (although I was a great aircraft engine man in my time). I find flying in WOFF harder than in OFF for some reason. This may seem a silly question, but how does one turn a WWI aircraft? Do you do rudder turns mostly or is it a good idea to use some aileron? This is especially important with the DH2 which is reputed to go into death spins very easily. So should I avoid use of the rudder or the ailerons? Which is the most important?
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 03:16 PM

Albert is embarrassed to have been caught bathing in the ocean, but pleasantly surprised to receive the DSC. (He was actually expecting the 25 hour DID award, which explains the surprised facial expression peering out from under that dripping bath towel).

Thanks to Olham, RAF_Louvert, and JimAtttril for the ongoing great work in making this challenge run so well. Great fun!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 03:24 PM

Jim, flying in WOFF definitely IS harder than flying in OFF.
The FMs have been changed, and the AI is more intelligent.

As for the flying of the DH-2, RAF_Louvert should have some more detailed advice for you.
From what I remember, it went best to

- use rudder only in gentle, wider turns, when the craft is not banked very much
- use the elevator (and NO rudder!) in tight turns

But mind you: tight turns should only be performed with good "energy" (forward speed).
You should always pick up some forward energy by diving, then perform the tight turn.
The tight turn = bank craft hard, then pull the stick (elevator up).
For a tight turn in a climb you need A LOT of energy from a previous dive - better
try that out without enemy aircraft around.

So, simply: gentle turns = rudder; tight turns = bank hard and elevator up (and care for your energy).
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 03:57 PM

Afaik, WW1 planes mostly used rudder for turning, I personnally always initiate turns with rudder and stabilize with ailerons. For good coordinated turns you always need some rudder (chasing the ball in later airplanes) to avoid a "slipping turn". You also need rudder with rotary engines to counter the gyroscopic effect which sends the nose up or down following which direction you are turning in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gniHY-IGxJ4

The tutorials by Requiem were made for Rise of Flight, but they are still generally useful.

* Of course you always have to use the rudder gently ! WOFF FMs tend to consider the rudder is the same as airbrakes ! smile2
( Which can sometimes be useful like when you come too high / too fast for a landing. Throwing your plane in a slipping descent is pretty effective in cutting down the speed or avoid taking too much speed. )

** Note on the DH2 vs Eindeckers : your main advantage is roll rate (because you have ailerons and they don't), you can change direction twice faster than the Einis. You could although possibly meet some Halberstadt DIIs in July/August.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 03:57 PM

That is correct Olham. I am no great sim pilot but I have flown the DH2 a lot as it is one of my all time favorite planes. She turns well with ailerons and elevator. If you make a hard banking turn and use rudder to boot it's spin time. I would not call it a death spin. You can get out of it easy unless you are at low altitude. I received my transfer to RFC24 today so off on a mission I go. We attacked 2 EA and I thought I had one but Maj. Hawker claimed it and my word was no good against his. I formed back up on him and we circled but the other feller didn't show up so we start our climb. I am looking, looking, no enemy that I can see. OK we are good I think when RIP, Bang, tear, bloody googles. Not sure what I did for evasive maneuver but it put me into a spin. Got out of it ok, trailing black smoke headed west. Engine running OK, Fuel OK, 5 miles to the lines. Another glance behind and there is a Roland on my tail, some flyer named Olham I think. I turn and he makes a run for it so I do too. Back in the hospital but I'm still here!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 05:07 PM

I'm also in hospital for 8 days, and even then won't fly again until 14 July - we have not
enough personnel. The rate of falling men and airoplanes is far too extreme.

I'm in hospital because I tried to help.
Never do that! Let your comrades get shot to pieces - it will happen anyway - with or without you!
I was at a safe altitude of 2500 Meter, at least 400 Meter above our flight.

Sandwiched between them and me were 4 Fokker E.III - our escort.
When we got jumped by 4 or 5 Nieuports, they Fokkers did NOTHING - they kept their formation
and carried on flying, as if the whole world just was a fun fair!

Seeing our 2 Rolands struggling to fight 4 Nieuports, I went down to help Hauptmann Baermann out.
And we really drove the Nupes off soon - they all left the scene and flew back to their lines.
But by then I was wounded (77% health), and so was my observer, Oberleutnant Palz.
The right wing was sinking, if I wouldn't hold the stick halfway to the left all the time.
We were now flying at less than 500 Meters.

Now one Nieuport returned or it was a new chap, and he attacked us.
I went lower, chasing along at tree-top level in a damaged craft. Holding it balanced was a tough
job, but Palz seemed to be shooting well with his Parabellum - soon the Nieuport turned away
and flew westward. I hardly found the field at this height, but Palz clapped me on the shoulder
and pointed north - and there were the pale tents in the afternoon sun!

I somehow managed to land the "Walfisch" without crashing it, and we received immediate help.
Palz has a graze on his left arm, and I have a wound on my right tigh. Both were bleeding a lot,
but the medic said it looked worse than it was.

Palz and I were driven to the Armeehospital Cambrai, but they let us go back to Pronville after
the treatment and bandaging. Eight days no flying. Baermann thanked us for our cool intervention.

The other morning we sat on the bench outside the Starthaus, when we heard from a returning pilot,
that Hauptmann Baermann was shot down east of Arras. A bad feeling of vanity overcame both Palz
and me - we had saved Baermann only to live one more day.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 05:10 PM

Originally Posted By: MFair
Another glance behind and there is a Roland on my tail, some flyer named Olham I think.

Naw, that wasn't me, MFair - I was too busy struggling to fight your comrades in Nieuports!
I hope the food is good and the nurses cute!
We were sent back to our field after bandaging - they had neither space nor time for us "lightly
wounded" airmen. Tch! Next time I come with my head under my arm - the nurses looked SOOO great!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 05:11 PM


capture screen

Morning Run: Up to the lines. The Sqn seems to have a live and let live attitude lately. Passed over a 2 a/c flight of Huns as we crossed the lines then turned home under 5 Av Recon 1000ft higher than us. seehearspeak Added to the insult 3 Enemy Scouts off to port flew passat about 1 NM. I broke formation hoping to sneak up on 1 Fokker E-III. It didn't work, he was on to me took 5 hits since my gunner Froze didn't fire a shot just sat there. Dove added powder and ran for home as 5 more bullets hit the wing as my frozen gunner looked ahead. I spotted and Flew over a Troop emplacement that got him to turn for home. RTB and filed for a transfer to 70 Sqn.

Afternoon: Patrol 2 a/c. My Power plant gave up as we reached the lines. I put her down on a road between Telegraph poles and a long nasty Aeroplane hateful looking fence.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: carrick58
I put her down on a road between Telegraph poles and a long nasty Aeroplane hateful looking fence.

...but you left the fence alone and made it? Tough job, eyh Carrick?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 05:17 PM

wave

Olham: It temped me and I shall have it. The FEE almost didnt fit on the road and the space between the Poles and Fence.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 06:43 PM

Oh dear. Olham has been wounded for 11 days and I am wounded for 5 days. There are hardly any active pilots left! I was lucky to land somewhere which turned out to be just on my side of the lines. Lucky because I was spinning down full of holes with no fuel and badly wounded.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 06:47 PM

Welcome to the club, Jim - good that you live!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 06:58 PM

Scout_77, you have flown your first twent5 hours - and so you are the second recipient of our
"WOFF DiD Campaign Medal 25", with one silver bar. Enjoy it!


Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 07:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Welcome to the club, Jim - good that you live!


But I am still a useless pilot because I never saw the aircraft that shot me down. I am finding WOFF very difficult but maybe I will get better with time. To tell you the truth, I am better at the IT side of this Campaign mycomputer

This is not a complaint about WOFF by the way. I don't blame the sim for my faults.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 07:13 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
But I am still a useless pilot because I never saw the aircraft that shot me down.

No, you're not - cause you live.
What happened to you, happened to hundreds of WW1 pilots:
they got hit (and often fatally hit), and they hadn't seen their attacker at any time.
That's the way the aces did it - no tricky turnfights.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 07:17 PM

Hasse pointed out to me, that the German pilots received only 1 Ehrenbecher, for their first victory.
So I have updated the chart - thank you, Hasse!
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 07:31 PM

No problem and congrats to everybody who's been decorated with new bling-bling!

In other news, my Abteilung was again wiped out today. We were returning from a railyard attack when a flight of Nupes attacked us. Result: four destroyed Aviatiks, eight dead pilots and observers. Once again I was able to cowardly flee the battle and landed safely on a friendly field.

MFFA 2 is now grounded until July 8 because my pilot and his observer are the only ones left there.

In the couple of weeks that I've been in the ranks of MFFA 2, the unit has lost 12 Aviatiks destroyed with 2 damaged and 24 pilots and observers killed with 2 wounded.

It's worse than what the inexperienced Kitchener's battalions are suffering in the battle of the Somme!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 08:01 PM

Can I get an Ehrenbacher in the RFC? Well, I have one victory (somwhat accidental).

I have discovered that cowardly fleeing is the only way to stay alive here!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 09:01 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - July 3, 1916 (Mission 11)

Early morning flight (6:30) Beautiful weather, only two clouds over the sea - 3 Strutters - Bombing of enemy ground units North of Lens.
To make it short : fly to target - drop bombs from 10.000 ft - turn around - fly home - enjoy breakfast and go to the beach !
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/03/14 09:34 PM

Hasse, when I read your reports, I'm wondering if Flanders north is really only a "medium" activity zone?
Maybe I shouldn't have split it up according to the real war events. Sorry, but your zone WILL eventually
earn you more points, when it becomes "hot".

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Can I get an Ehrenbacher in the RFC? Well, I have one victory (somwhat accidental).

Sure, Jim, you could get one too - if you convert to the German side! biggrin


Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
I have discovered that cowardly fleeing is the only way to stay alive here!

Well-ll... If you wanna climb the ladder of success and carreer, you should perhaps name it different.
You could say: "Flying smart, and to know when it's time to retreat is part of staying alive."
Doesn't that sound a whole lot better. A public relations manager taught me that. biggrin
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 03:03 AM

It is July 4th Holiday here....IRL

In WOFF, I'm now flying an EIII,down in Alsace.

Squirrely Shirley, I named her.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 05:49 AM

getting much better in quick combat.
We can dance some, but not as well as I did with Sophie.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 08:05 AM

"Squirrelly Shirley" is a name most Germans couldn't even spell without breaking their tongues. dizzy
A German equivalent could be "Verrückte Vera".

The Eindecker was successful, before the turnfighting happened; before the other side even had real fighters.
You can get quite good at booming and zooming and tossing and turning in an E.III - but its no comparison
to a Sopwith Strutter or even the soon coming Pup.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 10:42 AM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Hasse, when I read your reports, I'm wondering if Flanders north is really only a "medium" activity zone?
Maybe I shouldn't have split it up according to the real war events. Sorry, but your zone WILL eventually
earn you more points, when it becomes "hot".


I don't even want to think about what hot means. How could it be any worse than what I'm experiencing now? I can only fly a couple of missions between the inevitable pauses forced on to me by the horrendous casualties. North Flanders is now crawling with Entente fighters, including Sopwith Tripes, making it really really hard to survive there.

Sooner or later my luck will run out, no matter how carefully and cowardly I try to fly my Aviatik.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 10:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
Sooner or later my luck will run out, no matter how carefully
and cowardly I try to fly my Aviatik.

It seems to be the same in Verdun, in Flanders south, and north.
The notorious Roderik Dallas seems to fly as far down as Bapaume to kill Germans,
and in Verdun I could never fly without getting shot down.

My only advice I can give is, to climb to a good altitude after takeoff (ignore
your orders or what the rest of the flight do), and fly much higher than the others.
That way I remain mostly unmolested - if I don't go lower to help my comrades.
I won't do that again - it is too dangerous.
I think WOFF long-time-campaigns are almost impossible to survive.
A real pity...
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 11:12 AM

I'll try this flying higher trick and let my wingmen fight the AI enemies. I got shot down in the last mission because I went down to help. Mistake!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 02:47 PM

Flight Sub Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - July 4, 1916

All airplanes grounded in Flanders North due to weather conditions. I can't believe it, yesterday was such a beautiful day !
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 03:02 PM



Augustus Snodgrass
Sgt, Rfc.
20 Sqn

Rain. pitchafit
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 03:27 PM

I don't mind as I am wounded until the 7th anyway. I can look at the nurses instead of the rain thumbsup
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
North Flanders is now crawling with Entente fighters, including Sopwith Tripes,


Something strange there ... I believe Triplanes didn't arrive at the front until late 1916.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 05:16 PM

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Scout, Roderic Dallas had his first victory in a Tripe on 1 July 1916 so they were at the front by then, albeit in very limited numbers.

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Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 05:45 PM

The triplanes were there in July on combat trials.

Odd that they keep getting spotted, but no Halberstadts. Anyone seen one of them yet?


I'm nearly back after a long long 10 day's injured. Roll on Monday!
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
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Scout, Roderic Dallas had his first victory in a Tripe on 1 July 1916 so they were at the front by then, albeit in very limited numbers.

.


Interesting. Looking at the Wikipedia entry for the Triplane it appears Dallas had the first prototype, which was sent over for trials at the front. If I am reading the Wikipedia info correctly, the next Triplane did not arrive until around December, so am I correct that there should be one lone Triplane at the front until then?

Wikipedia: Sopwith Triplane
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 06:03 PM

There seemed to have been only 1 prototype (flown extensively by Dallas), until the craft
began to appear with RNAS in November 1916. Due to the time of year and weather, they did
only make their first impressive appearances in early 1917.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 06:17 PM

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Indeed, Olham. I just did a bit of reading to refresh my withering memory and it appears N500 was the only Tripe in service at the front until late 1916, at which time only a handful more arrived. It was not until early 1917 that they began arriving in numbers sufficient enough to outfit squadrons and it isn't until April of that year that you begin to see victories listed for pilots flying the Tripes. So Scout, you are quite right, we should not being seeing Tripes in the WOFF virtual skies at this point in 1916.

.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 07:40 PM

Yeah, the first time I saw the Tripes there were five of them and they had somewhat hostile intentions towards my flight. The devs are aware of the issue. smile
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/04/14 07:44 PM

A couple of days ago I met three Tripes of RNAS 1 on patrol ! When I look at the enlist pilot screen, it says they are flying Nieuports at this time and the Tripes only come beginning of 1917 !
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/05/14 07:14 AM

The French Navy also had a squadron at Dunkirk for a while. So Wiki says anyway. No other details of that.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/05/14 12:17 PM

I'm grounded due to bad weather down in Alsace with Jasta 14.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/05/14 12:21 PM

I can't fly again before 14 July - first I'm wounded for 8 days, and then comes bad weather
or godknowswhatitwas why it went on for three more days, before I received a flight date.

I forgot to mark myself wounded in the chart - sorry for that; will do with the next update.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/05/14 02:52 PM

Olham, you'll have plenty of time to watch the final week of the World Cup and cheer for Germany ! smile2
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/05/14 04:30 PM

Augustus Snodgrass
Sgt, Rfc
20 Sgn

Jul 5 1916.
Rain



The Post dropped of a letter from home. It started off Dear Gus. ?? It had a pic of my sweetheart said She had found things to keep her amused while I was at the Front.


image upload
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 05:42 AM

Sgt. Bilbo Baggins, RFC 70
July 4, 1916



Very brief notes since I was honestly too surprised to take them.

A patrol of 4 Strutters went to patrol the front lines. We arrived without incident. While sitting there, our leader suddenly broke away. I followed, and it seemed like he was picking a fight with three Eindeckers. Fun!

The fight itself was easy enough. I took care of one of them pretty quickly - I think I was lucky and hurt the pilot. The second required an extensive campaign to get him to fly into the ground.

That's when my companions more or less left, and the three Rolands showed up.

I made a fair show of it, but they got off several decent shots injuring 'me.' My observer managed to shoot one of them down as we fled for our lives. The Rolands pursued us to the front line then turned back.

I am out til July 9 with heavy bleeding. I reported 3 kills, which per rules translates to 1 'confirmed.'

While I'm at it I'm going to take the One Ring in for repairs. The guy I bought it from promised me it'd make my plane invisible!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 09:57 AM

Catknight, looks like your weather might not be set on historical, you shouldn't be able to fly on July 4th, all flights are cancelled. Except of course if you have another ring that has powers on the weather ... smile2
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 11:17 AM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Olham, you'll have plenty of time to watch the final week of the World Cup and cheer for Germany ! smile2

Cheer - or fear - for Germany...
Yeah, I think they play on Tuesday, vs Brasil.
A pity Neymar is so badly injured right now - I hope he will recover from that.
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 11:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Olham, you'll have plenty of time to watch the final week of the World Cup and cheer for Germany ! smile2

Cheer - or fear - for Germany...
Yeah, I think they play on Tuesday, vs Brasil.
A pity Neymar is so badly injured right now - I hope he will recover from that.


Best of luck as half of the European offering.

I heard a curious turn of phrase on the news yesterday. Neymar had "broken a vertebrae in his spine."
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 11:50 AM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Catknight, looks like your weather might not be set on historical, you shouldn't be able to fly on July 4th, all flights are cancelled. Except of course if you have another ring that has powers on the weather ... smile2



Bah. You're right. I thought the weather was too nice lately!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 12:14 PM

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From British General Staff to all Commanders in the Field:

Army Order 204, dated 6 July 1916:

The following distinctions in dress will be worn on the service dress jacket by all officers and soldiers who have been wounded in any of the campaigns since 4th August, 1914:

Strips of gold Russia braid, No.1, two inches in length, sewn perpendicularly on the left sleeve of the jacket to mark each occasion on which wounded. In the case of officers, the lower end of the first strip of gold braid will be immediately above the upper point of the flap on cuff. Warrant officers, non-commissioned officers and men will wear the gold braid on the left sleeve, the lower edge of the braid to be three inches from the bottom of the sleeve. The additional strips of gold braid, marking each subsequent occasion on which wounded, will be placed on either side of the original one at half-inch interval. Gold braid and sewings will be obtained free on indent from the Army Ordnance Department; the sewing on will be carried out regimentally without expense to the public.



Pursuant to above order the following individuals are hereby presented the Wounded Stripe:















Your King and Country thank you for your sacrifice and faithful service.

.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 12:25 PM

Great, Lou - thank you!
For all who didn't know yet: RAF_Louvert is the "One-Man_Medals-&-Awards committee"
for King George, the French High Command, and even for the Kaiser!
He has a deep-founded knowledge about all the awards, medals and badges, and we will be
in good hands there.

If anyone sees achievements which demand an award, but doesn't see it in the chart yet -
there will always be the next chart; the mills of bureaucracy grind slow.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 12:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Olham, you'll have plenty of time to watch the final week of the World Cup and cheer for Germany ! smile2

Cheer - or fear - for Germany...
Yeah, I think they play on Tuesday, vs Brasil.
A pity Neymar is so badly injured right now - I hope he will recover from that.


For Neymar they say he needs 4 weeks rest, so he will take some holidays and will be back in September in Barcelona. Other good thing for Germany, Thiago Silva will be out because of his second yellow card (and a stupid one !)
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 12:47 PM

Well, it gives the Brasilians at least some good reasons, if they should loose the match.
Makes it easier to bear.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 12:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Great, Lou - thank you!
For all who didn't know yet: RAF_Louvert is the "One-Man_Medals-&-Awards committee"
for King George, the French High Command, and even for the Kaiser!
He has a deep-founded knowledge about all the awards, medals and badges, and we will be
in good hands there.

If anyone sees achievements which demand an award, but doesn't see it in the chart yet -
there will always be the next chart; the mills of bureaucracy grind slow.



Such high praise and so early on a Sunday morning, I'm good for the week now! smile2

Olham, you are more than welcome and thank you for hosting this most excellent campaign.

To your point about achievements deserving of mention, I would add that if anyone is aware of such achievements please let me know. Just send me the particulars of the event and I will look into it. I try to keep tabs on everyone's records but I am only one man after all and I have been known to miss things of import. Just ask my wife.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 01:00 PM

We better leave your wife out of that, I guess (you wouldn't want to put your reputation
at risk here, right? Mmuahahahahaaa!!!)
But sure - it is damn easy to overlook something, or to make a mistake somewhere.
You are on the road a lot workwise, and so it is all quite busy for you as it is.

I bet the fellers will immediately make a BIG noise, if something should be overlooked,
and then there is still time to start the "mills of bureaucracy" again.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 04:04 PM

Augustus Snodgrass
Sgt, Rfc
1 Victory

Jul 7 1916.

Morning Flight: WX Overcast at 6000ft Lt rain dark clouds 8/10th cloud cover at 4000ft.
Remarks: Long wet flight in the gloom. No contact. I was in the Tail End Charlie spot of six a/c.

Spend afternoon packing, I will be off for a rear area staging depot then a Lorry over to Rfc 70 Sgn for flight assignment in Sopwith's 1 and 1/2 ers.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 04:06 PM

Good luck for your transfer, Carrick! Where will you be stationed now?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 04:31 PM

wave

Hi there Herr Olham.

70 Sqn is stationed at Fienvillers/Candas in Flanders. They are rated as Good.

Were U betting on the World Cup ? popcorn
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 04:34 PM

Carrick - look for a pm from me!
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 04:35 PM

Excellent work as always, Lou! I really appreciate your and everybody else's efforts to make this DID campaign an enjoyable experience. (If only my Abteilung wouldn't be wiped out so often...) smile

The Germans will have to wait until March 3, 1918 for their own wound decoration. On that date the Kaiser authorized a so-called Verwundetenabzeichen (Wound Badge) in three classes: black, silver and gold. The navy got their own wound badge, Marineverwundetenabzeichen, in similar three classes on June 24, 1918. It was only awarded to men who were wounded in naval battles, and because the German navy didn't fight too many of those in the final months of 1918 (with the exception of the U-boats), the navy wound badges are quite rare compared to the army ones.

Here's a photo showing all three classes of the army wound badge in my collection:



The badge in black was awarded for being wounded once or twice, the silver badge for those wounded three or four times, or for the loss of a hand, foot or an eye or hearing (also partial), or for severe facial injuries or brain damage. The rarest badge, the one in gold, was awarded for being wounded five or more times, or for total loss of eyesight or manhood or severe brain damage.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 04:55 PM

Carrick, I never bet, but I had made tips for the outcomes, and so far they have been pretty good.

Hasse, you seem to have a fine collection, like RAF_Louvert.
He had pointed that out to me some days ago, that we Germans can't have these before 1918.
I guess I will get shot down 200 times until then...

I must say this is a nice place to come to, and a fine community - just a totally relaxed
Sunday afternoon thought. yep
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 05:08 PM

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Hasse, those are very nice old badges Sir. Glad to see they have found a home with someone who appreciates their true value.

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Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 06:19 PM

Thanks guys. And don't worry about not being able to get a Verwundetenabzeichen in a while, Olham. I hear there are plenty of Hölzernes Kreuzes available, and it's quite easy to get one of those. biggrin
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 06:48 PM

Yeah, hm... - very comforting (shudder!)... skullhead
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 06:51 PM

'TENSHION PLEASE

The following pilots:

Arisfuser, Beanie, MFair, MudWasp, Rover27

please make a screenprint of your log - I need to compare some numbers and values.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 08:09 PM



Sir, if this is about that unauthorized flight over to see the farm girls I can explain!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 08:35 PM

Haha - no, MFair, it only seemed that some number might be wrong in the chart;
numbers of missions and flight times mostly.
No idea what happened - everyone just fill in the hours, missions and victories
as they are shown in the logs.
Do NOT try to only count and report the additional numbers since the last report.

Here is the latest chart - some aircraft are still missing.


Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 09:14 PM

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Olham, when you get a chance could you add the Wounded Stripe to the records of those flyers who were presented that honour earlier today. Many thanks Sir.

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Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 09:33 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - July 6, 1916

Weather has cleared up a bit and after two grounded days it's flyable again. There is still a thick cloud layer around 6000 ft.
Mission is bombing enemy ground units east of Ypres. We flew there, dropped bombs (no hit for me) and came back. No opposition encountered.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
Olham, when you get a chance could you add the Wounded Stripe to the records of those flyers
who were presented that honour earlier today. Many thanks Sir.

Yes, forgot that, thanks Lou!
Not sure if they are recognisable in our chart - they are added now.
Further pilots are wounded, so I guess you will need to write more such letters.

Chart updated.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 09:57 PM

'TENSHION PLEASE, EVERYONE

If you like, you can give me a nationality for your fallen pilot - the country from
which he originates; like Canada or Australia. Also of course for Great Britain.
Then I'll add an according flag to the memorial.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 10:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
Olham, when you get a chance could you add the Wounded Stripe to the records of those flyers
who were presented that honour earlier today. Many thanks Sir.

Yes, forgot that, thanks Lou!
Not sure if they are recognisable in our chart - they are added now.
Further pilots are wounded, so I guess you will need to write more such letters.

Chart updated.



Olham, if you use the 'tiny' image I posted to you yesterday over in our CA conversation it will show up better as it has the same background as the medals. Thanks again.

EDIT: The certificates for the award of the Wounded Stripe to Sgt. Agrayne and Sgt. Baggins have been added to the post made earlier today. The King thanks you for your sacrifice and service.

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Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/06/14 11:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
'TENSHION PLEASE, EVERYONE

If you like, you can give me a nationality for your fallen pilot - the country from
which he originates; like Canada or Australia. Also of course for Great Britain.
Then I'll add an according flag to the memorial.



We'll keep Baggins British (plenty of shires), but I was just looking up J.R.R. Tolkien's bio for ideas:

Though born in South Africa, he came to Britain to stay at age 3 (c. 1895). He delayed enlisting until July 1915 to complete his degree and joined the Lancashire Fusiliers. He came to France on June 4, 1916 and is 'currently' participating in the Somme offensive as a signal officer. He will come down with trench fever on October 27 and be invalided to England on November 8 where he'll sit out the rest of the war between hospitals and home garrisons.
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 01:11 AM

Olham, Abel Wainright (dead pilot) was born and bred in England.
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 01:33 AM

Algernon Didsworth is English. He is however, from the opposite end of the country from yours truly, I gave him a Kentish home town because I plan to tour around there later this year.

As I understand the Hobbits are based on Tolkien's impression of the people north of Birmingham. Counties have changed in the 70's, but this would make Bilbo a Shropshire lad in 1916.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 07:46 AM

The reason some pilots don't have an aircraft is that they captured their records before that was added to the web page. If they do another sortie and capture that they will have to get an aircraft as it is a compulsory question.

And I can fly again today having come out of hospital sicko
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 10:29 AM

I know it's not a fault of your survey, Jim - that's why I asked here.

I still have to wait another full week - arghh!!
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 11:34 AM

I'm grounded until July 13 with a nasty shoulder wound. These 10 days in the hospital stints are real morale killers. Enjoy your flight Jim.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 11:45 AM

We have a lot of wounded pilots if you look at the chart. Last I saw it was 9 wounded and 10 active. And two of those active pilots don't seem to fly at all. Which makes it 9 to 8! Dangerous business this Campaign wounded
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 11:51 AM

They certainly are. Thankfully I have returned from mine now.

A good patrol today, we attacked two Eindeckers and got both. I didn't fire a shot, but instead covered the action from above.

On returning to Abeele, we found that we had unusual visitors.

Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 11:58 AM

RAF_Louvert has sent me a new graphic for the "Wounded Bar", so I have updated the chart with them.
Slowly but surely I am getting a certain routine in doing the job, but I must say, I was never
really the pen-pusher type; I'd much more love to fly again. Still a whole week to wait though...
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 12:55 PM

Yeah, it's really tough to try to survive in WOFF. I'll be able to fly a mission tomorrow, and I *really* hope it won't turn into yet another slaughter in the air!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 02:08 PM

Hmm... I'll have to keep an eye out for pilots that go from being active to being wounded. And we will have to keep a tally of the number of times he is wounded. At the rate we are going some of our pilots will have more stripes than a USAF Master Sergeant!

Ok maybe we need another question - at the moment when a pilot is wounded I ask how many days he will be so. Maybe I should also ask how many times has he been wounded? I think I have to do that - easy for me. (Will give me something to do when I am next in dock old_simmer ).

Ok I have done it. So Olham will have to assign the wound stripes as well at the other things he does.

So the buck is passed to the pilots to keep track of wounds.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 02:54 PM

Olham, sorry to be a pita sometimes, but I see Mfair who is flying from Coudekerque as I do has some "hotspot hours". Flanders North does'nt get to be hotspot before April 1917 ! (except if he has moved somewhere else, but then he wouldn't be in RNAS 5 anymore...)
Not protesting, only for you to check if anything wrong.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 03:21 PM

Ok I have the following data for Mfair.
1) Albert Andrews 6 RFC Dead with 2.17 hours Flanders North.
2) Benjamin Bloodworth 6 RFC and then 24 RFC 2.73 hours Medium
3) Benjamin Bloodworth 24 RFC 11.03 hours 5.11 hotspot and 5.92 medium Dead hit Titanium Fence.
4) Charles Chatterly 5 RNAS 2.8 hours medium
5) Marc LeFair(?) 5 RNAS 6.58 hours medium
6) Charles Chatterly RFC 24 13.48 hours 1.26 hotspot Flanders South 12.22 medium now wounded from Bertangles.

See he has moved from 5 RNAS to 24 RFC.

Seems OK to me. No 5 was finger trouble.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 03:46 PM

Yesterday, I awoke extra early and flew DiD while the grandkids slept. Didn't have time to report until today.

Aarik's first flight in Jasta 14 down in Alsace was calm at first, then very dicey. Hauptmann Alfons lead the two of them to the front lines down past St Die for patrol. Aarik flew above and behind Alfons and all seemed quiet until they began the return to base leg. Alfons then suddenly changed direction and fled towards Aarik who spotted a Nieup on his tail. Aarik dove on the Nieup setting it's engine smoking and then noticed a second Nieup straight ahead and a little above. He did the same to that Nieup before pulling a hammarhead and finishing it off.

The first nieup had changed direction, left the fight and was headed back to the front lines, presumably for home. Alfons decides to chase this Nieup for about 20 minutes. Losing sight of Alfons, and not wanting to go deep into enemy territory, Aarik remained in a holding pattern over the front. Soon Alfons returns, engine smoking and a Nieup on his tail. Aarik saved him from becoming Nieup target practice, only to see Alfons loose altitude and crash into a wooded mountain. The debriefing showed Aarik took out 3 Nieups.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 04:31 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Ok I have the following data for Mfair.
1) Albert Andrews 6 RFC Dead with 2.17 hours Flanders North.
2) Benjamin Bloodworth 6 RFC and then 24 RFC 2.73 hours Medium
3) Benjamin Bloodworth 24 RFC 11.03 hours 5.11 hotspot and 5.92 medium Dead hit Titanium Fence.
4) Charles Chatterly 5 RNAS 2.8 hours medium
5) Marc LeFair(?) 5 RNAS 6.58 hours medium
6) Charles Chatterly RFC 24 13.48 hours 1.26 hotspot Flanders South 12.22 medium now wounded from Bertangles.

See he has moved from 5 RNAS to 24 RFC.

Seems OK to me. No 5 was finger trouble.

That is correct Jim. I saw the new chart but figured Olham had enough on his plate and it would get sorted out in a week or 2. Albert A., Dead. Benjamin B. Dead. Charles C. started in RNAS5, transferred to RAF24 and promptly got his ass shot and will be in the hospital until the 17th. Corsaire, see log I posted a few pages back when Olham was questioning my unauthorized flight to see the farm girls.

Marc LeFair was a mix up between the DID Campaign and Ricks Spad Campaign, or the onset of Alzheimer's, which ever you prefer.

On a navigation note: I have been flying a DH2 campaign on my own and have found how easy it is to navigate by compass and map.(Thanks again Lou!) After a few flights you don't even have to look at the map that much once you learn a few landmarks. Sure makes for a total immersive sim. In 10 missions I have only been "lost" once. That was when we were to escort some recy aircraft and I followed the wrong 2 aircraft! Thanks again for the tips everyone gave me. They were a big help!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 04:49 PM

That's what I thought that the mistake was you were not in RNAS 5 anymore, and not flying a Strutter I suppose. Once again it's not to bother people only to check what went wrong to correct for the future. smile2
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 04:53 PM

Yeah MFair, I like navigating that way too and practice in quick combat, free flight mode. Looking for a decent Alsace map. Been using a printed map from quick combat and or the mission briefing map. That works good enough, but Lou's maps are the best.
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 05:45 PM

I find myself starting campaigns in the locations and timeframes to coincide with Lou's maps.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 06:07 PM

Okay, here comes another corrected chart. It is stunning and incredible, how much can go wrong
with just one chart. I wouldn't have wanted to run the whole RFC or the Luftstreitkräfte... duh

Posted By: Hasse

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 06:30 PM

Olham, it was said that the best brains of the German army in WW1 served in the railway section (Eisenbahnabteilung) of the Great General Staff. It was a hell of a job to keep all the timetables in order. Perhaps you're now experiencing a small taste of what those brave men had to endure. biggrin
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 07:11 PM

Augustus Snodgrass
70 Sqn, Rfc

7 Jul 16.



photo sharing sites

I was part of a 6 a/c mission to Hit the Spur line at Bapaume, and we got a few hits.

Afternoon Flt 3 a/c to recon the lines. No contact.

Footnote: A flt while out swanning around ran into Hun scouts 1 a/c came back the gunner kia and the pilot wnd. The other 3 a/c missing.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 07:26 PM

Olham it was not to give you more work... you're almost there, now you just need to change the flag ! hahaha

When we flew online campaigns in RoF I did for every mission an Excel sheet with the results of each of the 40 pilots from the analyse of the parser results (with plus points - air victories, ground targets, reco photos - and minus points - aircraft lost, pilot dead - and team totals for the mission and for the whole campaign). It took me two hours every Tuesday morning and every time I let something through and had to make a second or third version. So I know how you feel... smile2
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 07:49 PM

Todays mission for Aarik was much the same as yesterdays. Combat air patrol below St Die. He was flight leader and took Fritz high above the mountains to the general area. They spotted what looked like a 4 on 4 DF below' but didn't engage. They did escort one EIII home to the Colmar region before turning NNW and RTB.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/07/14 08:53 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - 07 July 1916 (Mission 13)

Today morning mission 07:45. Two Strutters led by Flight Lt Carpenter - Artillery spotting over enemy ground units SE of Armentières.
We start our spotting at 9000 ft then we spot two Eindeckers way under us climbing to intercept. We have time to finish our mission before they are at the same altitude, then we engage them. We get one each, but Carpenter has been lightly hit and decides to stop for a quick repair at La Gorgue before flying back to Coudekerque in the afternoon.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 03:33 PM

Sergeant Anthony Agrayne of 24 Sqn RFC returned from hospital where he had spent 5 days. The mission seemed to include the whole squadron led by Major Hawker. And it was 'patrol friendly lines'. Good, I thought. So off we went, but the Major had his own view of what we should patrol so we ended up in a dogfight at 11000 feet way over the lines. I at least got back although one pilot did not so I live to run away another day whenpigsfly The next time I see this happening I will plead engine trouble and head back home! It's alright for these aces to go looking for trouble but they should do it on their own and not drag me along.

Don't tell the boss because he will have me shot at dawn for sure cuss
Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 03:44 PM

Jim, I guess it was hasir-raising to have a fight way over the lines.
But watch out - let the CO never hear your thoughts!

Corsaire, it seems you have your steady ways of survival - good job!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 04:00 PM

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Artemus Burroughs returned to camp after nine days in hospital and was assigned the afternoon mission. Relatively uneventful except for a brief go-round with a pair of Eindeckers, both of which were claimed by other members of 'B' Flight. Landed 1 1/2 hours later and was informed by the CO that he was being promoted to 2nd Lieutenant. A gentleman at last.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 04:14 PM

Congrats to your promotion, Lou! I hope you knew: the drinks are all on you tonight!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 04:41 PM

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Oh yes Olham, to be sure. The bar is open and the newest Lieutenant is buying!

cheers

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Posted By: MFair

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 04:44 PM

Jim, I heard your story from my hospital bed. True to his word, Major Hawker "attacks everything."
Lou, congratulations Sir! Well deserved. The Doc says I may be released on the 16th and I will join you two. Look forward to reading of your exploits!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 04:58 PM

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MFair, looks like Charles Chatterley's status needs to be updated to 'Wounded' on the board. Also looks like there will be another award posting soon as per Army Order 204.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 05:14 PM


free picture upload


Bombing Mission Railyard between Oppy and Vimy.

B flight: 5 a/c 20 4 0 lbs Bomb = 4 hits in general area. ( mine overshot) from 8000ft.

A flight: 4 machines cover for the attackers. = 1 a/c lost ( Engine failure ? )
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 06:32 PM

I was able to fly one mission today. It was a bombing attack deep behind enemy lines, so I knew what was going to happen even before we started. Three of our Aviatiks with no escorts (the only planes available to MFFA 2).

We took off without problems and headed to the front. I was leading the formation, because none of the pilot officers in the Abteilung have managed to live longer than a day or two. Just as we had crossed the enemy lines quite close to the North Sea I spotted some German flak bursts at 9 o'clock and somewhat below our formation. Soon a flight of DH.2s became visible - four of them. I immediatedly gave to order to abandon the mission and return to base, but becase the Aviatiks are extremely slow, it didn't take long for the Aircos to catch us.

The result was the usual slaughter - all of the Aviatiks shot down, except mine. I saved my butt by quickly diving down while the Aircos were busy killing the others. Two of the EA followed me all the way to Nieuwmunster, but didn't attack as I was flying at such a low altitude. They turned away only when the machine guns at Nieuwmunster opened fire at them.

I can fly again on July 11 when a couple of replacement pilots and machines will arrive.

To be honest, I'm not sure WOFF is even supposed to be played as a German two-seater pilot in a squadron flying Aviatiks in North Flanders in the summer of 1916. There are so many Entente fighters everywhere that most of the time I can't even get close to the lines before we're attacked. And when they attack, it always means total destruction. MFFA 2 has been wiped out so many times now that I've lost count. I haven't been looking for trouble, but the enemy aircraft simply can't be avoided.

It seems I can save my pilot by diving down like a Stuka and then flying just above the ground like an Apache Longbow. It'll be interesting to see how just long my good luck lasts!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 06:37 PM

I've also tried Aviatiks careers from Metz Frescaty and they have been short ! I must say so have been my BE-2 careers ! Never exceeded 3 or 4 missions in both planes !
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 07:25 PM

My congratulations on promotion RAF_Louvert!

2 uneventful patrols. Once again we find a Nieuport visitor. This one is definitely French.





Yes, the weather was dreadful.

I've checked him out - a (future) French ace called Paul Tarascon. Has a wooden foot following an accident back in 1911. Flies for Esc 62 from Cachy near Amiens. I'd love to know what brought him all the way up here.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 07:40 PM

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Apparently a relatively reliable Le Rhône 9C, which in and of itself is a rarity.

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Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 07:40 PM

Congrats to Lou on the promotion. Seems likely this is a first for the DID challenge? Well done.

As to the slaughter of various two-seater squads, I chalk it up to the AI vision distance. The AI have such good long-range vision that scouts can see and chase-down two-seaters with ease, when in real life I suspect they were often passing each other by without knowing any better. Just a guess.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 07:47 PM

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Also in RL, a fair number of the two-seaters were able to fly higher than the scouts which made staying alive much easier. I have flown two-seater missions where I have climbed to the absolute ceiling of the bus I was flying and it did allow me to keep above my attackers more often than not. However, you need a LOT of patience to climb to said height.

Also, thanks everyone for the kudos on the promotion of Artemus Burroughs. It was a pleasant surprise, unlike so many others we receive when serving in this sim.

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Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
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Apparently a relatively reliable Le Rhône 9C, which in and of itself is a rarity.

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Congrats on the promotion Lou...well deserved!

That unreliable engine cost my first pilot his life while deep over enemy lines. It made me a bit reluctant to trust it again, but I have a choice you see where RL pilots did not.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/08/14 11:34 PM



Flight Sub Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - 8 July 1916 (Mission 14)

This morning is sad looking and rainy, but the brass decides to get everyone out. We send 6 Strutters on a reco mission over enemy ground units south east of Ypres. Like if that's not enough to take care of ourselves, they add four Nieuports from RNAS 1 to look after us.

We get to our recon zone and do our job when four Fokker EIIIs feel bold enough to come our way from under us and the fight starts. I quickly calculate this is going to be fourteen planes in a dogfight, so I stay above by fear of collisions. After a few minutes, two of the Fokkers are down and the two other running home.
By that time everyone is spread out so we don't take time to form up and we all go to the good side. The weather is getting worse so some of us decide to land at La Gorgue and wait for the weather to clear up a bit before flying back to Coudekerque. (*)

We will learn later that Whealdon and Davies have shot down one of the Fokkers and sadly that Wickham and Foss will never come back again, after a collision with the second.

(*) and also because the historical Germany-Brazil game was starting 15 mns later... yep
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/09/14 12:12 AM

Sweet screenie Maeran !
Cock a doodle do....
Posted By: MFair

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/09/14 12:36 AM

Just for laughs and giggles while Charles C. is in the hospital I have been flying a DH2 in Nov. 1916. Enjoy the EIII as an opponent for now gentlemen. Once the Halbs and Albs take to the skies it is a whole different ballgame.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The DiD Campaign Revival - Intro and Rules - 07/09/14 02:55 AM

I'm learning to pilot the EIII decently. She is always on the edge of a stall when DFing

Love the cockpit view and the gun. The rotary, although a tad underpowered, is dependable.

"Squirrley Shirrley" is no Strutter, but I'm learning some dance moves with her.
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/09/14 06:23 AM

MudWasp: I thought I would love the E.III when I started a campaign with them, but on my second mission I was just climbing out of my takeoff and thought I'd begin my 'circle to altitude'. Spin. Stall. Boom. Ugh.

Hasse: Bad luck with the Aviatiks. I've come to the conclusion that running away is bad (unless you know for a fact you have a speed advantage, or are injured and desperate.) Try wearing them down by making them chase and turn with you. I've never tried the Aviatik so even that might not work... I've saved my life a few times with the 'dive to tree-top level and run' strategy.


July 9, 1916
Sgt. Bilbo Baggins, RFC 70



Today we flew a six-plane mission intended to patrol the border and recon for a bit. As usual in these things, we didn't make it.

While flying near Loos, Flight Leader Cruikshank suddenly began diving and weaving back and forth, trying to drain his energy. We weren't very high to begin with (6K feet), so this drop was a bit surprising.

After a few quite graceful arcs on his part, we saw his prey: Four Eindeckers. One thing I've learned in QC is that, whereas in many situations the disadvantaged machine will run for it, the AI doesn't realize the Eindecker really is that much worse than the Strutter. The two flights charged into each other.

That's when I noticed...these aren't Eindeckers. Monoplanes, yes. Hostile, yes. But the fuselage is wrong. Who are these guys?



Oh dear.

The next few minutes are a blur. I get behind one of the Nazgul and fire a few shots into it, but there's another Strutter flying a little too close to my comfort, and he's leading me away from the melee. Both of us let him go, and I realize we're in a full fledged furball.



One of them turns away, so I begin settling in to a rear chase but my Strutter buddy is right there with me. In fact, he cuts me off at about 10 or 20 yards distance. No, this is far too dangerous. I turn away, disgusted.

Two left: I fire one burst into Nazgul # 3 and he goes into a death spiral - I must have hit the pilot. # 4 goes into a flat spin before I can even get to him. I follow him down: He tries twice to reverse his spin, but can't quite pull it off. Down he goes.

The melee left me at about 700 feet altitude, so I slowly circled my way back to 5000 waiting for my flight to form up. Two of the Strutters are still with me. I don't realize it at the time, but a third crashed and burned. This leaves two friendlies missing.

I stick around for a good 10 minutes, as do my Strutter buddies, but the call to form up never comes. I finally go home and submit a claim for two Nazgul. Following interviews with witnesses and a visit with the flight surgeon to determine whether I've lost it, Command awards me one E.III instead.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/09/14 03:57 PM

Augustus Snodgrass
Sgt, Rfc
70 Sgn

9 Jul 16.
B flight had the morning flight to Vimy Jct near Douai Airfield. I was tail end charlie to 6 A/c.
We were on the bomb run at 8,000 ft and got hit by e/a. Bullets flying, bombs falling a E'LL of a mess.
nothing hit the Target. I did get a part of a Fokker while doing a corkscrew down to 2,000ft. Alone, I ran for home and counted 12 holes in my Kite.

Sqn Results: No hits on target. 1 Spowith Destroyed, 1 forced down, 2 lt damage. Claims: 2 Fokkers.
FootNote:

I saw a E-III in a spin Out of control ?
Spotted a Sopwith making a force landing close to Douai
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 09:50 AM

TO ALL PILOTS

Gentlemen, I have kept the rules quite open about the frequency of your flying, but it doesn' make sense
when some of you don't fly at all. It should be possible for everyone to fly at least once per week.
So please try to fly a little more often. I wouldn't like to take pilots out of the campaign due to
inactivity, but I might have to make such an additional rule, and do so.

Last, but not least, we have a promotion.
RAF_Louvert's pilot has been promoted from Sergeant to Lieutenant - congratulations, Lou!

Here comes the latest update of our DiD Campaign Chart. I hope I have everything correct this time (but I doubt it biggrin ).
(A larger version is to be found in post #1 of this thread)

Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 11:41 AM

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Pursuant to Army Order 204, dated 6 July 1916, the following individual is hereby presented the Wounded Stripe:



Your King and Country thank you for your sacrifice and faithful service.

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Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 12:14 PM

Well thank you Sir! The doc says I am improving and if it continues I will be back in action sometime next week.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 12:53 PM

@lederhosen
Hi there, kudos for surviving 19 missions in a Morane ! thumbsup
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 02:09 PM

popcorn

Awsome, 19 Missions on a French Morane. Great flying thumbsup
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 02:16 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - 09 July 1916 (Mission 15)

This early morning 06:48 take off in a group of 3 Strutters for bombing of a railyard north of Lens. Beautiful weather. On the way we pick up our escort of 3 DH2 from RFC-32 and climb to 10.000 ft.
Bombing run, turn around, fly home. We saw 4 Fokker EIIs on patrol but much too low to catch us. Back on time for tea, bacon and eggs.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 02:17 PM

Augustus Snodgrass
Sgt, Rfc
70 Sgn

July 10th 1916.

During morning parade, The C.O. pointed out that my Kill was confirmed I now have 2 Victory's. ( Fellow pilots had witnessed the fight and stated that After I shot off a part of the Fokker the rest of it fell apart and the a/c smashed into the ground.)
Posted By: Shiloh

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 03:22 PM

I'm chomping at the bit to fly more Olham but I'm 7 days in on a 10 day hospital stay. Congrats Chatterley on your award!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 05:32 PM

Shiloh, I didn't mean the wounded pilots.
But for example all pilots, where the aircraft type is missing, haven't filled in a form
since at least two weeks. When did you add the aircraft, Jim?
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 06:17 PM

The first record with an aircraft was on 27th June 2014. Any capture before then did not have the aircraft.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 06:24 PM


how do i print screen

Jul 10, 1916.

After formation was posted for 0612 flight to bomb rail-yard at Vaux Vermrdios. Scary Flt over numerous Hun Airfields. WX: broken clouds at 7000ft 6/ 10ths cloud cover. It looked like 2 bombs hit in area plus 3 more on out skits. Outbound spotted Cover flight of 3 A/c still going to target area. Upon landing found out that 2 of their a/c were missing. B flt had 2 lt damage from Ground fire.

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1320 Hrs.: Got rolled for Six. 2 a/c plus 1 top cover.

Short Hop to Bapaume Spur line: launched in rain. WX scattered cloud and rainy overcast in spots. My bombs released too early missed wing man missed. Turning for home ran into 2 Roland C-IIs and shot it out, I got hits fired 100 rds Gunner fired 57 rds. ( we both claim a kill) Broke for home and had a Blue Roland put 37 hits in my kite and at least 1 in me. Landed our side on a short dirt road with Hateful looking Telegraph poles by side slipping the a/c. Taken to 1st aid shack. down for 6 days wounded
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 06:31 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
The first record with an aircraft was on 27th June 2014.
Any capture before then did not have the aircraft.

Thanks, Jim - so it was more or less two weeks ago.
Come on, guys - don't just appear in the chart - fly some more.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 07:08 PM

been flying, but I'm in the middle of getting ready for move to trier.
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 10:24 PM

Best of luck for the house move, lederhosen.

A great success for 29 squadron today! We were on the morning patrol in grey and dismal skies over Messines when the Flight Leader, 2nd Lt Bowman tracked down a flight of 5 Aviatiks at the low altitude of 7000ft. They were heading west so I believe they were a bombing raid.

Bowman had us stalk them some distance before engaging. One bomber turned and ran after the initial attack and soon a second turned to run, followed by sergeant Long. I remained with Bowman and the three remaining machines. Bowman caused a third to run for home before attacking the leader of the raid. (yes, he is a historical ace as is Long)

As he did so I dived underneath the remaining two seater and got within 70 yards before firing a burst into the back and rear of the fuselage. During the attack I bobbed a bit above the enemy's tail and saw no return fire, perhaps the observer was already dead.




This pilot turned for home as Bowman's final victim went into a dive. I pulled out to the right and was hit by a spray of bullets. The observer isn't dead then.

Now this Aviatik and I were alone, as Bowman and Long had disappeared. I crept up underneath the machine again and made a second and third long burst of fire into the enemy. I tried to rake the engine and prop.

After the third burst, the Aviatik keeled over in the air. No return fire. It dived away and I watched as it crashed into no-man's land far below. A white cloud was probably splinters from the wood.

Returning home alone, Sgt Long rejoined me as I was landing. I found that Long and Bowman had both claimed two enemy aircraft destroyed. I added the fifth making it the most successful day the squadron had ever seen!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/10/14 10:48 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - July 10, 1917 (Mission 16)

The brass thought we didn't do enough damage yesterday on the railyard, so they send us again on a re-run, this time with 6 planes. Weather is different, this time it is raining with a 3/5 cloud cover.
Same mission, we fly there and drop our bombs from 10.000 ft thanks to a hole in the clouds under us. The guys make a large circle around Lens to re-form, I prefer turning around right away and fly asap to the good side.
I land ahead of the group in Coudekerque.
Something must have happened because Carpenter and Ward are reported missing with their Strutter. Engine failure over enemy territory may be ?
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/11/14 05:05 AM

Sergeant Bilbo Baggins, RFC 70, July 11

Today we were supposed to escort a flight of recon craft to the lines to get a good look around.

Unfortunately I didn't see that, so as soon as we were up in the air I toggled through the waypoints to encourage our flight leader, Lt. Weller, to go straight to the front. Whoops.

Our flight of four Strutters once more found action perhaps 5-10 miles south of Loos, and 5 miles or so on our side of the border. Another flight of 5 Eindeckers flying low.

They didn't see us right away, so we were able to swoop in and hit their rear left flank. I took the fifth one and fired a few bursts with no apparent effect. I have no idea WHAT my companions were doing, because first my observer opened fire, then the 2 or 3 on my tail returned the favor.

Crap.

I don't know how badly I was hit - perhaps not so much, as I heard no tearing fabric and my engine seemed game, but suddenly steering to the left, against my rotary engine, was all but impossible. I could flat turn with my rudder like a champ however and managed to get behind a second one.

This one received a solid rake over the top of the craft from propeller to rudder. Tearing fabric, and he fell away for Bilbo's fourth official victory.

My tormenters were back though and gave me another burst to the tail. My observer seemed to be going nuts. He didn't down any, but after awhile they began to turn away. I let them.

Other than not turning left very well I seemed to be okay, but couldn't see any of my companions so turned west for home. Up ahead I saw two dots, which turned out to be Lt. Weller chasing the last Eindecker. I slowly swivelled to join the pursuit - he is my flight leader after all - but the Eindecker easily outdistanced me. I gave up when Weller did.

Rather than try to reform the flight, he turned for what turned out to be Heisendel Aerodrome. I couldn't keep up with him either - perhaps my engine WAS hit. I followed him as best I could, and while Weller was in the air circling the field I managed to get on a favorable approach and come in to land.

Still alive. I love my Strutter.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/11/14 01:49 PM

Strutters rule the air in summer 1916! I wish I could say the same about my Aviatik... well, at least it's better than the BE.2.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/11/14 01:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
Strutters rule the air in summer 1916! I wish I could say the same about my Aviatik... well, at least it's better than the BE.2.


Of course ! That's why I am not asking for a transfer for the moment. I don't like flying Noops and I feel safer in the Strutter than in a DH2, with someone behind me watching my six.
Of course once the Albatros DII appear it will be another story ! the end of the year will be hard for the Brits.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/11/14 02:05 PM

If my pilot lives long enough, I may transfer to a Marine fighter Staffel. But not before they get rid of the Eindeckers!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/11/14 08:17 PM

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Another fine bunch of reports and screenies, great for passing time on a rainy afternoon. Thanks to you all for sharing.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/11/14 09:03 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Originally Posted By: Hasse
Strutters rule the air in summer 1916! I wish I could say the same about my Aviatik... well, at least it's better than the BE.2.


Of course ! That's why I am not asking for a transfer for the moment. I don't like flying Noops and I feel safer in the Strutter than in a DH2, with someone behind me watching my six.
Of course once the Albatros DII appear it will be another story ! the end of the year will be hard for the Brits.


You bet!
But until we receive the Halberstadt, I will stay with my Roland "Walfisch".
Still three days to wait though, before I can fly again.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/11/14 09:32 PM

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Private Journal of Artemus Burroughs


11 July 1916:

Morning sortie was a patrol of the front lines NE of Lens. Uneventful excepting when Wilkinson had to drop out early due to a dud engine. He managed to land safely at La Bellevue so no worries.


Afternoon sortie B flight was sent to knock down an enemy sausage SE of Guillemont. I question the wisdom of the brass hats at HQ as there were no less than three Hun obs balloons all within a mile or so of each other. As flat as the terrain is in that area I don’t see how knocking out the middle of the three balloons is going to make any difference in the Hun’s ability to see what we’re up to. None the less I led my flight and lit up the gas bag. On our return trip I spotted five Eindeckers well above us and it became apparent in short order that they intended to come down to play. As it was only Prothero and Wood accompanying me, and given the Hun’s alt advantage, we had our hands quite full. Wood was out of the fight almost immediately due to a very good pass by the lead Hun on him. That left us with 5 to 2 odds. I knocked one down in my first turn and lined up on another who quickly wheeled about and ran. Got into a go-round with two more. I managed to send one spinning down OOC at which point the other scampered off. With the threats gone I counted us lucky and Prothero and I headed back home. Spotted Wood on the ground just west of Fricourt and he gave us a wave to show he’d made it down in one piece. Landed back at camp and put in a claim on the obs balloon, (bloody stupid target to have to go after I still say), and chalked up a pair of Einies to boot. Prothero claimed an EA as well so all-in-all a good outing.











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Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/11/14 11:02 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - 11 July 1916 (Mission 17)

We have only 5 flyable planes and this morning they are all out for an artillery spotting mission east of Ypres. Our leader Lt Richmond will do the spotting while we scan the skies for bad guys. Weather is grey with low clouds but only 2/5 cover, which should allow for the spotting.

And this is how it goes... We turn around when five Fokker EIIIs climb towards us and the furball begins. We have the altitude advantage and we down three of them (one for me !) The other two run for home. Three of our planes including mine will need a little patching job, so Lt Richmond, after regrouping everyone, takes us to Bailleul airfield. We will fly to Coudekerque later in the afternoon.

Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/11/14 11:09 PM

I like your flying "photos", Corsaire - despite the wet weather!
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 04:33 AM

Hey guys, just curious if anybody else is occasionally getting 'shorted' on the mission times. I just had two long missions for which I got about half-credit on the hours flown: on a 2 hour flight WOFF credited me with only 53 minutes and then on a 1.5 hour flight WOFF credited me with only 47 minutes. (I'll never catch Lou at this rate!!)

I am flying these missions in real time and checking the actual time on my clock, so know I am getting short changed. It seems to happen more often on the really long flights, and only on about one mission in five (?)

Anyone else seen this, or it just something particular to my install?
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 07:25 AM

I have a new pilot joined Friday July 11th. He gives his id as 'SGOTHR, Piedro606'. Which is correct?

Edited: Piedro606 does exist and the other doesn't so I will add Piedro.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 10:17 AM

Originally Posted By: 77_Scout
Hey guys, just curious if anybody else is occasionally getting 'shorted' on the mission times. I just had two long missions for which I got about half-credit on the hours flown: on a 2 hour flight WOFF credited me with only 53 minutes and then on a 1.5 hour flight WOFF credited me with only 47 minutes. (I'll never catch Lou at this rate!!)

I am flying these missions in real time and checking the actual time on my clock, so know I am getting short changed. It seems to happen more often on the really long flights, and only on about one mission in five (?)

Anyone else seen this, or it just something particular to my install?



Scout, I feel your pain. I have experienced this time discrepancy many times over the years, first in OFF and now in WOFF. When you are flying in real time it really does hurt. I imagine it is an artifact of CFS3 and not an easy one to fix or the devs likely would have done so by now.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 10:47 AM

Great pics and report of the "sausage grill", Lou!

Scout, you do not use "air start", do you?
It would be allowed, by the way, but may shorten the collected time.
But if I understand Lou right, the times will NEVER be valuated correctly...
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 10:52 AM

I flew for over 2 hours in my last sortie but was credited with 53 minutes. I was keeping track of the time with the seconds count at top left of the screen. It was over 8000 seconds which is 133 minutes according to my calculator.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 10:56 AM

If it can count the seconds correct - why does it not give the correct hours?
Here is no difference between British and Continental and American seconds and hours???

The only comfort for us is, that it seems to strike all of us the same way.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 11:56 AM

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Olham, I wouldn't say the times are never valued correctly, but about 1-in-4 missions will short you in actual fight time if you compare it to an RL clock. I track this only flying in RL time as I have no idea what time compression might do to the tally. It can be very aggravating though when, as noted here by Scout and Jim, you have flown for nearly two hours only to be credited with 50 or so minutes. The worst I ever had was a 184 minute recce flight that I was credited 36 minutes for. Now THAT'S aggravating. But ah well, c'est la guerre, c'est la vie.

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Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 12:01 PM

I've seen it happen sometimes. Once I flew a long bombing attack that took well over an hour to finish. To my surprise, the manager only credited my pilot with 30 minutes or so.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 12:04 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
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Olham, I wouldn't say the times are never valued correctly, but about 1-in-4 missions will short you in actual fight time if you compare it to an RL clock. I track this only flying in RL time as I have no idea what time compression might do to the tally. It can be very aggravating though when, as noted here by Scout and Jim, you have flown for nearly two hours only to be credited with 50 or so minutes. The worst I ever had was a 184 minute recce flight that I was credited 36 minutes for. Now THAT'S aggravating. But ah well, c'est la guerre, c'est la vie.

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Maybe this is a question for Pol to try and answer? It may be WOFF or it may be MS code behind it.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 12:32 PM

Did you guys pause for screenshots, or did you really fly the whole mission
without any pauses?
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 12:40 PM

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Olham, when I am flying 'full real' I don't use pause at all unless there is some RL crisis I have to attend to, (but that has only happened a handful of times over the years). Of course, I am a glutton for punishment, so...

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Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 12:54 PM

Strange, it never happened to me yet in the many missions I have flown in WOFF. I always check the mission time at the end and it has always been the right one. (I never controlled if it was precise to the minute but is overall correct)
I used to make a 4x time compression to skip the "circle and climb" part when not leader, but I don't anymore since 77 Scout gave me the tip of switching waypoints which works even if you are not leading.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 01:11 PM

I did use time compression for the boring landing bit.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 01:44 PM

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It is the Kaiser's Royal and Imperial command that the following individuals be recognized for their valour:





You make the Vaterland most proud.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 02:06 PM

A medal? Me?!? Juchuuu!!!
Thank you, Lou - that was a nice surprise!

Hey, Bachmeier, we could share the evening drinks between us -
after all we both don't have that much pay, do we?
Now let's throw a coin, wether we shall feast in Pronville or down in Alsace...
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 04:24 PM

UPDATE regarding 'short' time: I got a reply from Polovski via the 'WOFF support' e-mail and he said they have looked at this already a little while ago, that they think they have it fixed, and that the fix will be in the next update. However, when the next update will be out is unknown as they are quite busy with other things right now.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 05:37 PM

Congrats on getting those EKs, guys! You're in good company - only about 5.2 million people will receive the EK II. smile

I flew one mission today. It was a recon job close to our lines, so I thought we just might be able to pull it off without trouble. I was wrong. As we reached the area, our flight of three Aviatiks was attacked by a lone British Nupe 11. Fed up with these constant attacks, I decided to fight to the last man and bullet. The Nupe was stupid enough to fly in the crossfire of three observers, and after taking several hits it was seen spinning down out of control, but not before seriously damaging one of our Aviatiks, which had broke off, leaving a thick trail of smoke behind.

After the mission was over, we could see that the Nupe had indeed been destroyed. Unfortunately the damaged Aviatik didn't make it and both pilot and observer died in the crash. The kill was credited to my wingman.

Once again I'm grounded, this time until July 14, as we wait for new men and machines.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 06:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
Congrats on getting those EKs, guys!
You're in good company - only about 5.2 million people will receive the EK II. smile

Do I sence a trace of envy there?

Originally Posted By: Hasse
The kill was credited to my wingman.

Maybe you'll soon be another recipient of the E.K.II ?
Or is the wingman regarded seperate from you?

Originally Posted By: Hasse
Once again I'm grounded, this time until July 14, as we wait for new men and machines.

Ah, then we will re-start on the same day again!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 07:14 PM

Grounded until 15th, I don't fly on week ends and Monday 14th is national day here.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 07:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Do I sence a trace of envy there?


Nah, I already own both EK II and EK I, as you know. smile

Originally Posted By: Olham
Maybe you'll soon be another recipient of the E.K.II ? Or is the wingman regarded seperate from you?


Yes, of course. You can't get the kills of your wingman - unfortunately. biggrin

Originally Posted By: Olham
Ah, then we will re-start on the same day again!


Yeah. The war passes quickly when you spend most of the time grounded!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/12/14 09:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
The war passes quickly when you spend most of the time grounded!

...but we still won't survive it...
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 03:47 AM

Sgt. Bilbo Baggins, RFC 70
July 12, 1916



Morning:
Command remembered that we can bomb things and asked us to remind Houplin Aerodrome with some 40 lb. bombs. We were a flight of 6 led by Capt. Cruikshank (HA) and made an impressive sight as we more or less formed up.



It was pretty dull: It began raining heavily almost immediately after that pic, so I didn't even have the benefit of practicing ground navigation or admiring the sites. No Germans came to us, we found none. Dropped our bombs and went home.


Evening:
This time Command asked us to remind one of the rail junctions near Bapaume of our capability. The weather was a bit better, and much as in my flights during mid-week Capt. Cruikshank suddenly broke off to attack a flight of 5 Fokker E.IIIs. I grinned. Perfect thing to relieve my stress.

Right.

Well, I did get a few random shots into 1 or 2, but my allies were simply vanishing. One of my companions had already had a bad engine and turned back, leaving three Strutters. Then one got into a collision so close off my left wing I thought it'd been me.

2 on 4 now. Someone got really lucky with a single bullet as I heard something crunch under the impact. I was still having some luck turning to my right and getting off the occasional stray shot, but at least 3 of them were trying to get on my 6.

That's when I noticed the Roland joining the party. God I'm beginning to hate those things.

I tried to turn for home, but two of the Eindeckers and the Roland still wanted to talk things over, so I turned back towards them. Stalled and ended up flying 90 degrees to the vertical, left wing up ... and nothing I could do seemed to make it better.

Crash. Bilbo's quest has ended.


Final Stats (already reported): 5.72 hrs, 6 sorties, 4 victories

I'll probably wait a bit before jumping back in. My Track IR is due Tuesday, and I might jump into category B at that point.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 11:21 AM

Originally Posted By: Olham
A medal? Me?!? Juchuuu!!!
Thank you, Lou - that was a nice surprise!

Hey, Bachmeier, we could share the evening drinks between us -
after all we both don't have that much pay, do we?
Now let's throw a coin, wether we shall feast in Pronville or down in Alsace...


Lou, Spiffy medals, Thanks!

Olham, I have a stash of homemade Ale, wine, and spirits hidden at my secret forest hunting camp. Gotta find something to do on those days we don't fly.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 11:26 AM

Sounds great! Position?
Mechanics - get my Roland ready!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 11:38 AM

SW of Buhl-Lorraine, just before the 1st RR tracks, hill top grass land patch, I'll light a bonfire.

Edit....just double checked my directions, no RR tracks, just a road.

Look for a wooded patch and a finger of a lake pointing to it




Inclined slope, land uphill



I'll start a fire near the hilltop.

Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 01:36 PM

Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 03:15 PM

The shack is in the woods...a short walk away.
HAHA.. sweet pic, Olham

Hope you brought your Gewehr 98 for deer hunting in the evening.
Fresh fish from the Lake, berries, and fresh baked bread are all I've to eat. Plenty of drinks at the shack

Edit about RR...The RR tracks run from the North side of Buhl-Lorraine and split the gap between the lake and the wooded spot.



Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 03:27 PM

Grilled fish should be fine!

Gee, tomorrow the hospital time AND the bad weather will be over for me,
and I will be able to fly again!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 03:40 PM

The pics I last posted are from this DiD mission today.

I bumped up to 85% fuel for me
The weatherman must be a morphine addict. Stupid weather for flying.
We made our way down there until the Hauptmann change course and we flew home. No enemy contact.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 04:39 PM

Congratulations to our flyers RAF_Louvert, Scout_77, Maeran, Corsaire and lederhosen -
you guys can be regarded as aces!
Lou, you are heading straight for the British equivalent for the "Blue Max", it seems (did they have any equivalent?).

TO ALL PILOTS

Gentlemen, we cannot change the LEVEL during one pilot's life, like Carrick did (from C to B).
The reason is simply, because this change would suddenly valuate your points differently,
which you had flown under easier conditions.
So, Carrick, your pilot will remain on LEVEL C. Only if he should fall, and you
then enlist a new feller, then you can choose a different LEVEL (and also a different
nationality, if anyone wants).

Gentlemen, here is the Sunday chart for 13 July.


Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 06:45 PM

.

His Majesty King George V hereby confers the following honours:






A grateful people thank you for your service and loyalty.

.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 06:54 PM

Lou should get the VC because he has so many kills and it's only July 1916.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 07:35 PM

.

A DSO may be proper at this point, but I think the VC would be a bit premature. I do appreciate you looking after me though Hasse. smile2

.
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 07:40 PM

I think that we're going to see historically inflated victory scores for the remainder of the year.
The behaviour of the AI is more appropriate to 1918 than 1916. I usually seem to be flying in 4+ flights and meeting similarly large groups of Eindeckers.

The AI is quite aggressive so it is often a case of kill or be killed. I have only been the attacker in one of my victories.

The greater chance of being killed in 1917-18 will even things out.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/13/14 10:53 PM

Thank you for your tirelss service, and the reminder, Lou - chart updated.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/14/14 06:33 AM

Olham, you missed out our new pilot Piedro606.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/14/14 09:08 AM

Thanks, Jim, you were right - sorry, Piedro!
I have made me a stencil for your screen capture, Jim, which I use to go through all the pilots in the graphic
chart, and for changing their values. But I totally missed the thought, that a new pilot might be in there.
Geeze - how many mistakes can a single man make???

I'll work on it later today.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/14/14 09:51 AM

I had to add another row in the sheet and make sure it was correct - that all the other rows stayed right. He is of course the first new pilot we have had since the start.

Congrats to Germany on the footy match. I only watched half of it. Like Brazil supporters I was on Germany's side, mainly because I didn't want the Argies to win. I still haven't forgiven Maradona for that 'hand of God' thing. Blatant cheat and proud of it.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/14/14 11:34 AM

Jim;

I will be the next new pilot starting on the 16th with my first flight so hope that is no problem.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/14/14 01:57 PM

No Robert you already exist on the web survey form.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/14/14 02:21 PM

wave

Olham:

Ok, C Level is cool. Thanks reading
Posted By: Beanie

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/14/14 03:14 PM

Looks like a lot has been going on. I am now able to get back to the campaign. Problem with the computer.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/14/14 04:17 PM

Carrick, as I said - next pilot could be in a different LEVEL, okay?

Welcome over Flanders fields, Piedro - hadn't seen you here before.
I hope you like it!

And welcome to the DiD Campaign, Robert - I wish you all the best o'luck!
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/14/14 05:22 PM

I flew two missions today. The first one was a bombing attack against British trenches, and we were even assigned a flight of Eindeckers from SK Sachsenberg as escorts!

Weather was terrible, and I think that is what saved us from all the usual trouble. We didn't see any hostile aircraft and apparently they didn't see us either, because the all too common slaughter in the clouds didn't happen in this mission.

I think the main reason for those extremely bloody missions I've experienced in my DID campaign is that the AI pilots see too well and behave too aggressively, as was already mentioned earlier in this thread. This also probably explains the ahistorically high kill numbers we're seeing in the DID campaign; another thing is that we have the tactical formations and doctrines of 1918 in the summer of 1916, which also results in a bloodier and more dangerous environment.

My second mission was a recon flight, but it was cut short only a few minutes after taking off by engine trouble, which forced me to land and end the mission prematurely.

A whole day without casualties in MFFA 2! I'm happy. smile
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/14/14 05:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
A whole day without casualties in MFFA 2! I'm happy. smile

Good, Hasse! Now I will try and see, if I'll experience the same...
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/14/14 08:26 PM

Offzstv. Bernhard Harms, Kasta 18, Pronville, 14. Juli 1916

After nine days in hospital and days of bad weather, my first sortie put me in command
of our flight of three Rolands. We had to reconnoitre the front line around Bapaume.
Arriving near the town at 2200 Meter, we sighted Flak, and then 2 Bristol Scout.
I was about to ignore them, as they were 500 Meter lower and could not reach us.
But then Kaemmler, our rearmost flyer, dived down to engage them.
And when he got into trouble, Seifert also went down to help.

I was terribly angry about Kaemmler and could have strangled him - but then he fell;
a thick black column of smoke over east Bapaume was all that was left of his Roland.
Now Seifert and his observer had one Scout under fire, and the craft went down with
a trail of smoke.
I had a dance with the other Bristol, and twice I had almost been "smearing off"
in our tight turns, but then I hit the Englishman at 700 Meter altitude, and passing
him, my observer Palz also gave him some with his Parabellum.
The Bristol spiralled down and the pilot made a bumpy landing on our half of the line.

Now we were too low for our mission task, and so I followed Seifert, who was heading
back home. But from the north more Bristols came down to chase us. Seifert decided
to land at Bertincourt, while I made it back to Pronville.

Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 12:20 PM

Good Job on that mission, Olham, love the "Jaws" look too
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 01:07 PM

Yeah, my new paintjob!
Must find out, which skin part is the nose bottom, so I can complete that.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 01:12 PM

Looks a bit like 112 squadron RAF in WWII in the Western Desert!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._112_Squadron_RAF

and somewhere I have a picture of a JU87 with a similar shark mouth.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 02:06 PM

Well, many may think the "nose-arts" were invented by Allied WW2 pilots.
But they weren't - several Roland C.II had mouths and eyes painted on -
friendly "Smiley" type, or "shark mouths".
The Roland in the second pic is called "Meerkatze", which directly translated means: "Sea Cat",
but in English the animal has nothing to do with cats and sea; it's a vervet monkey.







Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 02:55 PM

Great! It's nice to see photos that I haven't seen many times before.

The Roland seems to have great structural strength with few wires. I don't suppose the pilot could see much downwards, although that was a problem with all biplanes of that era.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 04:14 PM

The Roland feels rugged and stable, and is quite easy to fly in WOFF.
I just shot down a Nieuport 11 in her, and then we managed to run away from more of them.

The downward vision is quite bad.
You have a window left and right, and curved cutouts in the upper wings, but still...
If you want to land, you approach the field wagging your wings to check ot wether the runway
in front of you is free, then you balance her out, reduce throttle and "sink into the field".
You now watch through your window and cutouts, how the grass is coming nearer 'till touchdown;
or you look sideways, like I do, and get the right impression from the airfield hangars.
But if ever a mad cow should have the idea to walk onto our field in the wrong moment,
we would have minced meat for burgers!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 05:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
The Roland feels rugged and stable, and is quite easy to fly in WOFF.
I just shot down a Nieuport 11 in her, and then we managed to run away from more of them.

The downward vision is quite bad.
You have a window left and right, and curved cutouts in the upper wings, but still...
If you want to land, you approach the field wagging your wings to check ot wether the runway
in front of you is free, then you balance her out, reduce throttle and "sink into the field".
You now watch through your window and cutouts, how the grass is coming nearer 'till touchdown;
or you look sideways, like I do, and get the right impression from the airfield hangars.
But if ever a mad cow should have the idea to walk onto our field in the wrong moment,
we would have minced meat for burgers!



MMMM minced pie to augment the nightly meals!

Nice mission Olham and yes I like the kite paint job as well.
Must get to work on one for my Strutter.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 05:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
Nice mission Olham and yes I like the kite paint job as well.
Must get to work on one for my Strutter.

Ah, now I guess I know where you will fly - RNAS?
Posted By: piedro606

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 06:07 PM

Thank you Olham for your welcome.

I have discovered WOFF few months before, after flying many years with ROF (which I enjoy to continue to fly with it sometimes ...). As I really focus on the role playing aspect of the game, in the way to manage my virtual pilots, I am really glad to join you in the Did campaign, which make me feels not alone in my offline flights ... (for me it's always more challenging to survive to the war as trying to get victories at any price...)

Thank you very much for the job done, and long way to all virtual pilots community ...
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 06:30 PM

piedro, if you like, send me a PM with your hometown and country - I will add you to our (W)OFF Forum Pilots Maps then.

My last sortie gave me the chance to gain my 5th victory - a Nieuport 11.

Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 06:31 PM

Hey Piedro, the wonderful thing about flying the WOFF DID Campaign is that you don't really compete against other pilots but you can see how well you are doing. The thing is to see how long you can stay alive. And if you die you can rejoin as another pilot and carry on. It sort of joins us together even if we fly for different sides... And if you want you can change sides though most don't do that. In fact I don't think any pilot has done that.

But, as you say, in the DID campaign you are not alone. But try to avoid meeting Olham because he is dangerous!
Posted By: Maeran

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 07:10 PM

And an ace now. Well done Olham!

Welcome aboard Piedro!
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 07:51 PM

Welcome to the madhouse, Piedro! smile

Maybe Olham stops flying the Albs now that he's doing so well with the Whale? biggrin

I went over 20 hours today:



There has been very little glory and a lot of death, but finally I've been able to fly a couple of missions in a row without everybody getting slaughtered. Does wonders for immersion!
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 08:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
I went over 20 hours today:


Very impressive considering the plane you are flying. Very!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 08:13 PM

Dangerous - me? I am always getting hunted down like a dog, Jim!

Originally Posted By: Hasse
Maybe Olham stops flying the Albs now that he's doing so well with the Whale?

STOP flying the Alb? It's not even THERE! Once it is there, I will BEGIN flying it - and never STOP!
Mmuahahahahaaa!!!

Originally Posted By: Hasse
I went over 20 hours today

Congrats, Hasse! And furthermore good luck!
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 08:58 PM

Salut

long time no talky.
Basel has moved to 3.RFC, more detail later.
Been having a lot of..well, short runs. Lots of missions but not much time being logged. Still alive though.
Had a few close runs with EIII's but escorts seem to do thier work.

A nice run this evening, started out as yet another dry drop and run show. Bombs gone, not much happening...then.
Dots all over and all heading to us..yikes!
To late to run. But I end up with a freaken armada on the leg home. 3xN11 + 3xFe2B + 5xDH2 all stacked one a top the other, all the way home till we land. Never seen that before in any sim.

Boom Boom, HA HA HA HA
Posted By: piedro606

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 09:05 PM

Hi gentlemens from air,

I am glad to present you Scottish sergeant Alf Field from 60 Sqnd RFC, who succesfully achieved is 3rd mission today ... He is smiling on the picture, for moment he is convinced that the war will be short ... "In my defence God me defend"




P.S: Olham please keep him alive for his 4th patrol, it will be so nice from you smile2
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 09:59 PM

@Piedro606 :

You might have missed something when reading the rules : we fly in WOFF the same day as in reality.
Which means today you should be flying on the 15th of July 1916

I guess we could consider you have done your training hours on the Morane ? I will let the staff decide.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 10:11 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - 15 July 1916 (Mission 18)

This morning is beautiful and after a good porridge followed by bacon and eggs with some tea, it's time to go to work. I am tail-end charlie of a four Strutters flight. The artillery boys need our help to know if their shells are falling on the intended target, a german infantry unit trenches east of Nieuwpoort. We will have an escort of 5 DH2s from RFC 32 in Treizennes, and the two remaining Strutters will make another flight following us.

We find the little friends on the way, but they are not fast enough and slowly fall behind. We get to our spotting zone, and while our leader Flight Cdr Whealdon transmits information we scan the sky around. Soon we spot 5 Fokkers climbing our way, and we go to meet them. At this time the Aircos have caught up and also fall on the poor Einies. I stay above by fear of collisions and give a couple of bursts to a Fokker trying to climb, sending him back down in the fight.

Rhodes shoots down one of the Fokkers, two more are shot down by the DH2s and the remaining two run away. Everybody forms up again and we head west. Some planes must have taken hits and they land in Koksijde. I fly back to Coudekerque.
Posted By: piedro606

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 10:26 PM

Corsaire31, I just have a look back to the rules and I haven't found the rule you are talking about ...

Does it means if there are 2 patrols in a day in the campaign, we must fly 2 patrols the same day ? (for me it will be quite impossible to fly every day,or more than 1 patrol in a day ...)

In the rules it says that we must pass 3 hours on 2 seaters before transfering to a fighter unit, Morane L is a 2 seater isn't it ? I hope that the staff members will validate my training hours without passing by martial court copter
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/15/14 10:30 PM

You don't have to fly every game mission (but you can if you want), but when you fly you fly on the same day.

For instance, my last mission (n° 17) was on the 11th, I don't fly on week ends and yesterday was national day in France so I didn't fly either.

I flew 1 mission today (n°18), so I moved manually the campaign date forward to July 15th 1916.

It goes the same the other way around. If in WOFF your pilot is sent to hospital for 10 days, you cannot log any mission during these same 10 real days. Same goes with weather, you cannot fly if flights are grounded by bad weather.

EDIT : you're right, it is not clearly stated in the rules, so I understand it's not easy for someone who jumps in.
Posted By: 77_Scout

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 12:59 AM

Yeah, the decision to have the 1916 dates and our 2014 calendar dates 'match' came later in the thread, so it's easy to miss if you just read the rules in the first post.

As Corsaire said, just fly when you can, but the campaign date in 1916 should be advanced to match the current date in real life.

The purpose is to re-live the year 1916 day by day, but in the real-time year of 2014. It also keeps us all on the same date, which just seems to be more fun.
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 02:15 AM

Piedro, welcome to WOFF and the DID Campaign. Good luck Sir!

Olham, Congratulations on becoming an ace!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 04:02 AM

popcorn

Welcome Piedro to the Meat Grinder.
Con grts to Herr Olham on becoming an Ace.

My pilot is still in the hospital for a few more days

We got a new Canteen Driver bringing Tea and crumpets. Shes a Peach.


photo storage
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 04:36 AM

~S~ Alf
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 08:32 AM

Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 08:50 AM

Thank you all, guys, but I only just have 5. Look at Lou's achievements!
(Maybe my public relations is better? Mmuahahahahaaa!!!)

Hasse, your 20 hours on Aviatiks are really great! I guess you always fly as high as you can?

Originally Posted By: piedro606
P.S: Olham please keep him alive for his 4th patrol, it will be so nice from you...

Hmmm... - how will I recognise him?
Ah, wait, he is Scottish you say - he may probably be saving most of his ammo.
Mmuahahahahaaa!!!
(If you are a Scotsman yourself, you may not find those jokes funny anymore,
but believe me, I know how that feels - I am East Frisian, and in Germany
they used to make lots of jokes about us, and still do).
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 09:25 AM

Here are the Campaign aces so far:

Corsaire31 - 5
Lederhosen - 5
Maeran - 8
77_Scout - 6
RAF_Louvert - 12

We have no dead aces.

Olham - 3 (but maybe you haven't captured the latest yet)

I was once shown a Frisian poem and it was very similar to English! Maybe you are flying on the wrong side duel
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 09:52 AM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
I was once shown a Frisian poem and it was very similar to English!
Maybe you are flying on the wrong side...

I am not flying for der Kaiser, Jim - I fly there, because they have the Albatros.
And another strong reason is: they just have the interesting paint jobs!

Yes, the old Frisian language (which died) was spoken from southern Denmark over
the northwestern coastal area of Germany to the Netherlands. It is even related to
the Flamish in Belgium.
Then England and English language was also much influenced by the Norwegian Vikings,
who landed and settled along the English northeastern coast.

So in the end it looks like all the countries with a coast at the North Sea - or at
least their coastal regions - are somewhat related to each other.
The old Kingdom of Hannover is related to the British Royal family.

PS: In real life I would never want to fire at an Englishman (nor a French or Belgian) -
I like our neighbours; they all have enriched my life with their ways and habits,
their cooking and brewing, their songs and poetry; and they all have wonderful countries
with beautiful landscapes to travel through.
Europe is what we should have struggled for 100 years ago - imagine where we could have
been with those huge investments...
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 12:12 PM

Olham, flying high with the Aviatik is something of a challenge! The crate is slow as heck, and climbs about as fast as a drunken snail. Its service ceiling is also really poor, 3.5 km (11,000 feet?) or so. Although I always try to have adequate altitude, it takes forever to reach such heights.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 01:04 PM

Well I managed to get my SSD WOFF to work, and I get greater frame rates than before. I think the fault was something to do with my installation of DirectX 9.

So I got it to work and then set off for a flight. I got separated from the others and was happily going home when I was told to wait for the leader to catch up. I did that and then I think he (or someone else) ran into me. Now 9 days in hospital sicko

As I thought I was dead I suppose this is better.

Just out of interest, after landing a DH2, look over your shoulder when you stop the engine. The cylinders and the prop stop at different rates which is impossible with a rotary engine. As it's not a real engine anyway I don't worry about it too much.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 01:29 PM

I have been negligent in filling my diary so here is what has been happening since my arrival at Coudekerque Aerodrome.

Albert Ward career with RNAS-5 based at Coudekerque Aerodrome flying Sopwith 1 ½ Strutters.




14 Jul 1916 @ 08h16 Artillery Spotting North of Diksmuide

Arrived early today at my assigned aerodrome Coudekerque. On the drive in I noticed a nice sized woodlot just north of the base and since it had been raining as of late, I decided to take a walk there to see if I could find some mushrooms to take to camp. I lucked out and found a nice crop of Chanterelles in a beech grove. I will have a nice feast for breakfast when we get to base. Unfortunately I had to leave them in my room because as soon as I arrived I was informed I would be on a mission and had to suit up.

Soar led the flight with Booker, Hill, myself, and Huskisson accompanying.
A flight sent five with us for support. The mission was successful with no Hun machines encountered. Back at base I took the mushrooms to the mess and shared them with the chaps there. Now they call me “Mushroom” for short. Geez…


14 Jul 1916 @ 16h52 Reconnaisance North of Diksmuide.

Booker led the flight with Hervey, Hill and myself accompanying.
A flight sent five with us for support. The mission was succesful with no Hun machines encountered.


15 Jul 1916 @ 06h32 Recon over our lines North of Diksmuide.

Osborne leading with Parsons, Shook, Soar, myself, and Chadwick accompanying..
Mission successful, no enemy encountered..


15 Jul 1916 @ 14h55 Artillery Spotting North of Diksmuide

Mesurier leading with Parsons, Shook, myself, and Chadwick accompanying.
A flight sent 3 with us for support up to the lines. The mission was successful with no Hun machines encountered.


16 Jul 1916 @ 05h10 Bombing mission to Rumbeke Aerodrome.

Soar lead the flight with Booker, Shook, Hill, myself, and Chadwick..
Shook, Booker, Huskisson and Chadwick from A flight flying top cover.
Mission was successful, we had 4 ground target hits.
Shook shot down 2 EIII’s, and I shot down 1 EIII and a Hun sausage before crossing the lines.
All Strutters made it back to base but Soar, Booker, and Myself had light damage, but none of us were injured.
The boys are asking for more mushrooms! Shook told me to harvest a couple of bottles of Cognac as well while I am out in the woods this evening. I told him next time we go to town!


16 Jul 1916 @ 14h28 Artillery Spotting East of Ypres

Mesurier lead the flight with Booker, myself, Huskisson, and Chadwick accompanying.
We had two escorting DH.2 from RFC-29.
As we approached the lines Mesurier signalled with wagging wings of enemy close by below and ahead of us and then he began an attack approach. We had quite a scramble and I managed to cause an EIII to smoke but in the melee one of the others put quite a few rounds into my port wing. We managed to drive them off with only one kill going to Mesurier. The mission Arty Spotting was again taken up and completed successfully.
All of us made it back to base successfully.

YouTube Video:


Well, I think I made all the mistakes on this mission. Not concentrating on being steady with my shooting, overshooting enemy target and offering him a good shot, Not effectively checking my six (difficult at best with gunner behind you, Loosing contact with my mates and spending way too much time trying to find them when I should have gone directly home...
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 03:01 PM

OK Robert I have your entry. BUTTTT....

Olham, Olham, wherefore art thou? I still only have you with 3 victories....

I have now been wounded twice so I will soon have an armful of stripes (or be dead) dizzy
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
I got separated from the others and was happily going home when I was told to wait for the leader to catch up.


Who tells you things, there's no radio in these crates ? smile2
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 03:22 PM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31
Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
I got separated from the others and was happily going home when I was told to wait for the leader to catch up.


Who tells you things, there's no radio in these crates ? smile2


Ahhh, I know! It must be sign language from one of his superiors in the flight! As you well know, they often get close enough for that!
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 04:11 PM

What, you guys don't hear voices when you fly? biggrin
Posted By: piedro606

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 04:50 PM

After some days spent in RFC disciplinary camp for flying in Flanders at end of may 1916 with a false pilot license, sergeant Alf Field is sent back to front on July 16th 1916 in the squadron. Martial court of british expeditionnary corps, motivate the sentence that this felon pilot will be more usefull at front than spending the rest of war in a jail (even if some members of the court doubt that he will survive longer to the war...) pilot
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 05:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
What, you guys don't hear voices when you fly? biggrin

Well, maybe I overhear them - I am usually talking to myself very loud (to overshout the engine noise):
"More to the left! Left!!! Careful! Don't pull the stick too hard!
Right! Right!! Don't touch that! The compass shows strange values!
That isn't the compass, idiot, that's the altimeter! Repeat that - altimeter!
Aw, p*ss off, you know-all!"
...and so on.

The Aviatik sounds like THE job for patient Fins, Hasse!

Good to hear from our new pilots, Robert and piedro!
Will read all whilst having my dinner!

Jim, great to hear your SSD and WOFF made peace with each other!
Don't worry, Jim, I want to fly one more today, and then I'll make my entries.
If you could send me the chart tomorrow midday, that should be fine.
If not, you can perhaps send it in the evening?
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 05:16 PM

Ok Olham, I will send you the latest chart at midday tomorrow. For others, that is 12am Berlin and Johannesburg time. It is 1am Los Angeles time (I think). Anyway, all you guys can work it out! If in doubt, capture your latest sorties ASAP!

It seems that soon we will have 20 Campaign pilots which is a goodly number thumbsup
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 05:23 PM

Yes, and maybe I should make an extra post over the weekend, to invite some more flyers?
Thanks, Jim - that will allow another sortie for me.
Maybe I can at least complete my first 10 hours...
Posted By: LtCasey

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 06:28 PM

Hi mates,


would like to join in, but without the "Fokkerscourge" addon, it looks like not beeing able to get to the appropriate start date.

Ideas?
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 06:31 PM

You don't need the Fokker Scourge to fly in summer 1916.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 06:37 PM

No, not a problem. Just follow the rules as on page one of this thread. You don't need the addon. You need to set the start date as
manual in the 'workshops' and set all the other settings as required depending on whether you want to fly as an A, B or C type. Your start date would be today's date but in 1916. Once you have flown a sortie you can capture the results in the URL below, putting your name in the 'other' field. Once I see you as a Campaign pilot I will add you to the list.

Just follow the rules as set down by Olham in page one of this. It doesn't matter that you start after most of the others. Have a go!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 06:44 PM

Welcome to our fine little group of gentlemen, LtCasey!
Well, the others have explained it all, so it is only left for me
to wish you a good start, and the best o'luck!

Come back, when you have questions.
Posted By: piedro606

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 06:46 PM

Hi LtCasey, welcome to us, and as Hasse said you don't need Fokker Scourge, which in reality allow you to fly german planes during 1915 year ...
Posted By: LtCasey

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 06:52 PM

Thx Herrschaften, will post my pilot within the next days.

Natürlich werde ich für Deutschland fliegen....... Für den Kaiser!!!!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 06:59 PM

Yes, we need a few more German pilots! Maybe I will have a go there one of these days!

On thinking about it, today's date is 16th July 2014 which is equal to 16th July 1916 WOFF time.

So this Campaign will carry on until 11th November 2016 which will be equal to 11th November 1918 WOFF time.

And the wonderful thing will be that the available aircraft will change with time so we will eventually end up with SE5A's against Fokker DVII's. Actually I can't wait for the Bristol Fighter F2B biggrin
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 07:14 PM

LtCasey has been added to the web page ID's. That gives us 21 pilots winkngrin
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 07:36 PM

Originally Posted By: LtCasey
Natürlich werde ich für Deutschland fliegen....... Für den Kaiser!!!!

Haha! So ist's recht! Für Kaiser und Vaterland!

Damn, we are so short of planes, that we were sent out with only two Rolands.
Of course we got jumped by Nieuports.
And of course I got wounded AGAIN, although my observer behind me was happily
firing away (without hitting anything), and the Nieuport was behind him.
So - how could the feller hit me???
But well, he did, and I am hospitalised for another 5 days.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 09:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: LtCasey
Natürlich werde ich für Deutschland fliegen....... Für den Kaiser!!!!

Haha! So ist's recht! Für Kaiser und Vaterland!

Damn, we are so short of planes, that we were sent out with only two Rolands.
Of course we got jumped by Nieuports.
And of course I got wounded AGAIN, although my observer behind me was happily
firing away (without hitting anything), and the Nieuport was behind him.
So - how could the feller hit me???
But well, he did, and I am hospitalised for another 5 days.


Olham;

Your observer must be wearing one of those early forms of bullet proof vests! Maybe you should ask him where he got his! biggrin
Posted By: piedro606

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 09:33 PM

Olham, perhaps your observer was not recovering from your 5th victory celebration ... We also heard in our squadron, that some german observers also have the habit to drink some schnaps before each mission to give them more courage ... Perhaps yours drink a little bit too much ... In any case I hope that you will recover soon from your injuries ... dizzy
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 10:12 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - July 16, 1916 (Mission 19)

Today I draw the afternoon mission, I am tail-end charlie again in a flight of four Strutters led by Flight Cdr Channing. We take the opportunity of a wonderful weather to go drop some bombs on Houplin airfield.

We get there, drop our bombs from 11.000 ft (no hit for me but my mates did some damage) and I turn around asap while the flight makes a long turn to reform.

As I cross the front lines I meet a couple of Aviatiks returning from mission, escorted by two Fokkers. I try to go unnoticed, but one of the Fokkers has seen me and leaves the formation to come my way. Since he is a little higher I cannot run away very long, so I turn around to meet him. We draw a few descending circles down to 7000 ft and I manage to get behind him, not close enough to my taste. I decide to risk a short burst (stats will show I hit him with one bullet) and I probably scared him because he looses control, goes into a flat spin from which he will never recover until he hits the ground. First time I get a victory with one hit !

By then the other guys have joined me over the front lines and we all fly back home. As I fill up my surprising claim for a 6th victory, the CO advises me I have been awarded the DSO.


Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/16/14 10:31 PM

Corsaire;

Bet that was a nice surprise! "DSO"!!

I noticed RNAS-4 flying out of Coudekerque! I'm with RNAS-5 also stationed at Coudekerque and just flew a mission on the 16th July @ 14h28 (Arty Spotting)! I must keep an eye out for you!
Posted By: LtCasey

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 07:05 AM

Originally Posted By: corsaire31


Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - July 16, 1916 (Mission 19)

Today I draw the afternoon mission, I am tail-end charlie again in a flight of four Strutters led by Flight Cdr Channing. We take the opportunity of a wonderful weather to go drop some bombs on Houplin airfield.

We get there, drop our bombs from 11.000 ft (no hit for me but my mates did some damage) and I turn around asap while the flight makes a long turn to reform.

As I cross the front lines I meet a couple of Aviatiks returning from mission, escorted by two Fokkers. I try to go unnoticed, but one of the Fokkers has seen me and leaves the formation to come my way. Since he is a little higher I cannot run away very long, so I turn around to meet him. We draw a few descending circles down to 7000 ft and I manage to get behind him, not close enough to my taste. I decide to risk a short burst (stats will show I hit him with one bullet) and I probably scared him because he looses control, goes into a flat spin from which he will never recover until he hits the ground. First time I get a victory with one hit !

By then the other guys have joined me over the front lines and we all fly back home. As I fill up my surprising claim for a 6th victory, the CO advises me I have been awarded the DSO.




Hi Corsaire,

you might have hit pilot and wound, or worse, killed him. Good shooting and congratulations for the DSO.
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 07:49 AM

Carl von Fisk
Kasta 36b, Verdun sector
July 16, 1916



Having arrived at my new squad, command immediately assigned me to a flight of four Rolands intent on reconning the border only 12 miles away from our field at Brullin Higny.

I'd just come out of my initial climb, with my flight leader (Oberleutnant Milch) trying to form up, when I saw a TRAIN pass beneath us. Showcasing world famous German discipline and elan, I immediately broke formation to buzz them. I could imagine Milch shaking his head and muttering 'Rookies' as I swooped away.

Well, my first approach was bad. I was coming in at an angle from it's rear right, and the train itself was about to bear right. It was also passing through forest, and I don't trust the Roland's turning characteristics enough for sudden maneuvers. I passed somewhere in front of the train intent on turning around.

I didn't want to lose my flight entirely though so I glanced over to see how they were doing. They'd completely broken formation. In fact, there were too many dots over there. And they were dancing.

Scheisse.

I abandoned the poor train and rushed over to help my comrades, when two of the hostiles broke off to see if I'd like to join the party. I simply have no idea what happened to one of them, but the other - a Nieuport 16 - wanted to make me his partner.

He managed to get on about my 7:00 at point blank range. I'd fired a few initial shots during his flyby, but no hits. With him almost on my rear... I was too low to chance actually banking left. My QCs with the Roland suggest she does NOT like to go against the torque of her rotary engine. It was therefore hard rudder left, with the wind of a borderline stall constantly in my ears, trying to stay ahead of him until he gave up. I did not dare try anything else.

My observer fired several solid bursts, at first with little effect. When he finally fired on me there were a number of hits, but nothing vital. Finally I heard tearing fabric: His. He spun away, and I chased him until I was sure he couldn't recover.

I looked around: No hostiles. No friendlies for that matter. No point in continuing therefore, so I began the 2 mile trek back home.

But not before I buzzed the train.



While approaching Brullin Higny, I noticed a friendly in his down wind approach, which at least convinces me I made the right choice in aborting my mission. I was a little high on my own approach, so plan A was to turn around and try again, when my fuel warnings started going off. The #%&*$# had hit my tank!

Our aerodrome is mostly surrounded by forest, no chance of simply landing in a nearby field, and I felt I was too low to try to turn around, run out of gas, and hope to last long enough to deadstick in. I dove for the field, then pulled up at the last second. It was a hard landing...but a successful one.

Time of flight, start to finish: 0.13 hours. If the Nieuports keep coming to me I might have trouble getting my 3 hours in.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 08:33 AM

Haha, I never had dared to write "Scheisse" in a report - good one, Cat!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 09:18 AM

Hi Olham, the latest chart is over at CombatAce now ...
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 09:31 AM

Hey, Jim - pls check our PM.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 09:53 AM

Hi Olham, ok fixed now. Unfortunately the web page has no memory at all so it can't check for invalid data very well. You can do that!

As I am now injured again I want to do a QC and go and strafe a train! ar15 How do I find one? Does anybody know of one and which drome is it close to?
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 10:06 AM

Jim, I notice such stuff, when I compare the data to my graphic chart;
so I'll have an eye on such things.

So you are also wounded again? Me too.
If we were on the same side, we could exchange books and chocolates.
How's your nurse looking?


For trains, you could check the inflight map and fly to the nearest railyard.
From there you follow the railway line - until you meet one.
Not sure though, if there are trains underway everywhere...
Posted By: piedro606

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 10:22 AM

Hi mates,

Just a newbie question ... How do you skip your missions to advance in calendar date (for exemple when your pilot is wounded), without passing by "debriefing room" and "go to airfield" as i should do ?

See u
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 10:27 AM

(Un petit bonjour de Toulouse où il fait très chaud.)

In workshop you set your "Campaign Date / Advance" to "Manual/Auto" ( see first post )
On your campaign screen, you have a button above "Briefing" marked "T+"
Pressing this button skips time to next mission. Repeat until your campaign is set at the right date.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 10:30 AM

She's knitting me a scarf for when I get back into the air!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 11:26 AM

Piedro, you do not need to advance time when you are wounded.
The sim will do that and tell you the next flying day.
You then have to wait until that day, before you can fly again.

Wow, Jim, you lucky man! I guess you forget any pains with her around!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 11:29 AM

Our latest chart here - I wonder if it's all correct; I have to move the single pilots up or down, according to their POINTS.
Well, you guys will complain loud enough...

cptroyce, pls confirm your flying hours: 23 sorties, and still not 1 hour completed?

Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 11:43 AM

Sorry folks my mistake - the 23 sorties is the number I have done. There is a mistake in my spreadsheet calcs (now fixed).
Actually cptroyce has 2 sorties.

(I was given this nurse because she makes a mean cup of tea for us Englishmen notworthy
Posted By: piedro606

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 12:02 PM

@ Corsaire31 --> Hi Corsaire,

Thank you for instructions provided ... I have seen the option "campaign date advance" in workshop settings, but I didn't understood how it could be activated in the campaign ... With your help I will go to bed less stupid this evening cat

P.S: For the weather I confirm that summer is in place today in Sud-Ouest of France, as we can consider that we are neighbours ...

@ Olham --> I understand now that if pilot is wounded the date is advancing automatically in the campaign (but I am not hurry to experiment the automatic mode ...)

@ Jim --> have you noticed that the scarf she's knitting is black ? Is it your favorite colour ?
smile2

Thanks to all and have a good sunny day !
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 12:30 PM

Originally Posted By: piedro606


@ Jim --> have you noticed that the scarf she's knitting is black ? Is it your favorite colour ?
smile2

Thanks to all and have a good sunny day !


It's sunny here as usual in the winter but a bit cold - max 20°C today.

I have been wounded twice and am not a good pilot so am lucky to be alive. I collided with one of my own side in my last flight - or one of them collided with me - and crashed. Thought I was dead but was amazed to find I was only wounded. The black scarf will definitely be used soon skullhead
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 12:49 PM

I might have done a mistake when reporting, 19.87 hours is correct, mission number is 18 (instead of 17)
Nothing to worry about, will be careful when reporting on Sunday. smile2
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
Corsaire;

Bet that was a nice surprise! "DSO"!!

I noticed RNAS-4 flying out of Coudekerque! I'm with RNAS-5 also stationed at Coudekerque and just flew a mission on the 16th July @ 14h28 (Arty Spotting)! I must keep an eye out for you!


Let's have a beer and BBQ party at the airfield for my DSO ! beercheers
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 01:03 PM

Congratulations on the DSO Corsaire. Just got out of the Hospital and all flights are cancelled!
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 01:46 PM

Guys, any wrong number here or there is never a biggie, as long as we notice it.
With the next chart, it will always be corrected - or exchanged for new mistakes
I make - I am a specialist for confusion )and should perhaps rather work undercover
on the enemy's production plans). Mwahahahahaaa!!!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 02:55 PM

Augustus Snodgrass
70 Sqn, Rfc

0700 Released from Hospital.
I caught a Ride with some Frenchmen from the Depot to a road near the Field



image sharing

Then it Rained. No Flights.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/17/14 03:54 PM

Haha, all that effort - for nothing!
Well, at least you live another day, Carrick!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/18/14 03:17 AM

reading


U Know, The Service was kinda like that Some days a lot of effort for nothing and Hurry up to wait. wave
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/18/14 05:37 AM

Rain, rain, go away
Come again some other day,
But if today some rain must fall,
May it cause British planes to stall.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/18/14 07:10 AM

16 RFC realy needed a rest. Hope new Observers arrive tomorrow.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/18/14 09:52 AM

Corsaire and all, I hope I won't spoil the party for this medal, but I guess you had read
and noticed that the DiD Campaign medals are awarded after a more realistic chart
made by RAF_Louvert?
Lou cares to award everyone, when he achieved the according deeds and feat.
In your log, you still have this medal from WOFF now, and that's okay and may be celebrated.
But to really receive this medal in the DiD Campaign, you may have to carry on a bit longer.
Sorry, mate - but I see, you are getting there anyway; only a bit longer.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/18/14 09:56 AM

Has anybody got the Military Cross in WOFF? It seems that the first award for British pilots is always the DSO, which shouldn't be the case (especially if you're not an officer, but let's not go there...) smile
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/18/14 10:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Corsaire and all, I hope I won't spoil the party for this medal, but I guess you had read
and noticed that the DiD Campaign medals are awarded after a more realistic chart
made by RAF_Louvert?
Lou cares to award everyone, when he achieved the according deeds and feat.
In your log, you still have this medal from WOFF now, and that's okay and may be celebrated.
But to really receive this medal in the DiD Campaign, you may have to carry on a bit longer.
Sorry, mate - but I see, you are getting there anyway; only a bit longer.


Lou already gave me a DSC a few days ago, so the party will be for both. Any opportunity for a party is always welcome. smile2
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/18/14 10:26 AM

Damn, yes, you're right, Corsaire!
I make the graphic version of the chart, but that doesn't mean that I am always aware of every detail.
My mistake.
So congrats again - you sure deserved it!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/18/14 02:19 PM

No problemo my friend, I know from personal experience how it is to keep track of campaign results ! wink
Today is another no-fly day because of weather, so we'll have plenty of time to celebrate before going back to work ! smile2
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/18/14 02:26 PM

Well, I'm wounded anyway.
But that allows me to fly my two Albatros D.V pilots at Jasta 15 and Jasta 23 a bit.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/18/14 06:36 PM

Augustus Snodgrass
Sgt, Rfc
70 Sgn



Another day of Rain. Its scattered here but the towards the Lines its socked.

The Intell people passed around a picture of a New Enemy air machine. They were asking if we have seen the type.


uploading pictures

Then an odd thing, The Hq Mobile Communication Van set up outside our flight shack. The Bird-men said it was just Training but I think it was just Messy. Its just not Cricket to move Hq's.


photo sharing websites
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/18/14 06:47 PM

Hey, that van looks like the British equivalent to the "Brieftauben-Abteilung"!
Never seen that photo before!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 12:38 AM

Continuing career of Albert "Mushroom" Ward

19 Jul 1916 @ 06h55 Bomb Enemy Front Lines South of Diksmuide.

Hervey lead the flight with Shook, Soar, Booker, Mesurier, and myself accompanying.
We had 4 DH.2 escorting from RFC-32.
As we approached the lines we encountered two Fokker EIII’s well below us on my port side. We carried on and bombed the target area successfully and then we quickly encountered six more EIII’s coming in to attack. I broke with the squadron and attacked a lone EIII separated from the others. We danced a bit until I sent him down engine smoking.
Turning I saw activity further north of the line and in pursuing to join my squad I ran into two more EIII’s. I attacked one and was happy to learn the other left us alone. I shot my opponent up and saw his prop stop rotating so I advanced on the other EIII and shot him down as well. I was then alone and headed WNW to catch up with the squadron. I arrived back at Coudekerque just in time to see the squad formed up to land.
None of us was hurt on the mission and all aircraft were un-damaged. All in all a successful flight. There will be some celebrating in the mess tonight!

The following video has some erratic behavior in it which I think is attributable to Ankor's latest mod.


YouTube Video:
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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 08:59 AM

Very strange - I have never seen such behaviour before!
It seemed to happen mostly over and close to your airfield.

Robert, I just realised your pilot's name is "Ward".
Sorry, but in the EXCEL chart I received his name was written as 'Albert "Mushroom" Ball'.
Will be corrected into "Ward" in the next chart, okay?
Posted By: LtCasey

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 11:02 AM

Sehr geehrte Frau Gaertner,

das Kriegsministerium und die kaiserliche Familie bedauert Ihnen mitteilen zu müssen,

das Ihr Sohn

Anton Gaertner

am 19. 7. 1916 gefallen ist. Leider können wir Ihnen keine näheren Umstände zu seinem Tod mitteilen.

Hochachtungvoll

Der Kriegsminister

In short, A Gaertner died after 32 min of flight, over the designated area, as he was told to spot enemy artillery on a solo mission in his Roland cII. He was jumped by a single N11. Observer didnt hit the braodside of a barn, locked the MG, so the Brit just had plenty of time, ventilating me. Crashed in to the frontline, died, my Observer survived.



Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 12:01 PM

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Pursuant to Army Order 204 the following individual is hereby presented the Wounded Stripe:



Your King and Country thank you for your sacrifice and faithful service.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 12:19 PM

Originally Posted By: LtCasey
He was jumped by a single N11. Observer didnt hit the braodside of a barn...

Sorry about that early demise, LtCasey - I had a similar start with Kasta 8 at Verdun.

My advices:

- fly higher than your orders say
- fly away from lower attackers approaching you
- dive away from higher attackers, into own terrain (go all the way to the deck, if you must,
and zigzagg there to an army or balloon base or an airfield - their defensive fire will
occupy your attacker)

It is a hard life at the Western front.

*****

Thanks, Lou, I'll add it in the chart!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 12:20 PM

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His Majesty King George V hereby confers the following honour:



A grateful people thank you for your service and loyalty.

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Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 12:37 PM

@ Olham

For information only :

Last updated chart has been published on page 107 on July 17th (83445)
The chart in page 1 is still the previous one updated July 14th (83330)

Both charts are written "Updated 10 July 2014"
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 12:54 PM

Thanks, Corsaire - yes, I updated several times on that day.
In future I may only show the chart in post #1, and a quick link to there.

Lou, I guess it may feel a bit peculiar for a 'humble man' to award medals to his own pilot;
but I can see and I'm sure you deserved this medal so well - congratulations!
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 01:10 PM

Originally Posted By: LtCasey
Sehr geehrte Frau Gaertner,

das Kriegsministerium und die kaiserliche Familie bedauert Ihnen mitteilen zu müssen,

das Ihr Sohn

Anton Gaertner

am 19. 7. 1916 gefallen ist. Leider können wir Ihnen keine näheren Umstände zu seinem Tod mitteilen.

Hochachtungvoll

Der Kriegsminister

In short, A Gaertner died after 32 min of flight, over the designated area, as he was told to spot enemy artillery on a solo mission in his Roland cII. He was jumped by a single N11. Observer didnt hit the braodside of a barn, locked the MG, so the Brit just had plenty of time, ventilating me. Crashed in to the frontline, died, my Observer survived.


Ok Anton, I got your capture and you have been added to the list of 'Dead' pilots. Just join in as a first name 'B' pilot and have another go. Remember that you can join as any nationality and difficulty level. Best of luck!

ps. I don't do solo missions as they are suicide skullhead
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: JimAttrill
Originally Posted By: LtCasey
Sehr geehrte Frau Gaertner,

das Kriegsministerium und die kaiserliche Familie bedauert Ihnen mitteilen zu müssen,

das Ihr Sohn

Anton Gaertner

am 19. 7. 1916 gefallen ist. Leider können wir Ihnen keine näheren Umstände zu seinem Tod mitteilen.

Hochachtungvoll

Der Kriegsminister

In short, A Gaertner died after 32 min of flight, over the designated area, as he was told to spot enemy artillery on a solo mission in his Roland cII. He was jumped by a single N11. Observer didnt hit the braodside of a barn, locked the MG, so the Brit just had plenty of time, ventilating me. Crashed in to the frontline, died, my Observer survived.


Ok Anton, I got your capture and you have been added to the list of 'Dead' pilots. Just join in as a first name 'B' pilot and have another go. Remember that you can join as any nationality and difficulty level. Best of luck!

ps. I don't do solo missions as they are suicide skullhead


Well, You can always start out on one. Stop by the local farmers house and visit his daughter and return to base later with a successful recon report! biggrin
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 02:19 PM

Lou; you are the man when it comes to artistic endeavor Sir! Damn, those citations look so good I want to add them into my pilot's log book if I ever get one!!! yep
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 02:40 PM

Reading my history books about the SPAD VII I found it was first flown by Lieutenant Armand Pinsard of ESC 26. He got the first confirmed victory on 23 August 1916. So I was thinking to change nationalities soon.

So I go and check with WOFF and find that I can only fly the SPAD VII with Esc 26 on the 25th of September ....
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 02:44 PM

Well, maybe Pinsard had the first one, but the whole Escadrille was only
equipped with them until a month later?
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 02:59 PM

No, it seems that the Esc also had the Nieuport 17 and the SPAD was for 'higher ranks only' which means not for us low rankers.
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 03:53 PM

In German Staffeln, this is often the first step.
A new craft is getting introduced, and is only for the highest ranks.
2-4 weeks later it is for the high and mid ranks, and even later for all flyers.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 04:27 PM

Lou is an artist, indeed! Too bad the brass hats didn't give his pilot the VC. smile

I haven't checked how long I'll have to fly Aviatiks in MFFA 2. With my luck, probably until 1917...
Posted By: Olham

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 05:41 PM

I thought I had seen Roland C.II with the Marineflieger-Staffeln.
I must say: until we receive at least the Halberstadt, I won't give up on my "Walfisch".
Posted By: LtCasey

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 05:58 PM

THx Olham for the tips. Will follow them to the minute.

And all the other, especially our allied comrades, for their warm words....
biggrin

Will return them for sure..... cheers

Regards
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 06:54 PM

I wish I had a Walfisch! The Aviatik was okay back in the happy days of 1915, but now the old crate is nothing but a flying coffin.

A DFW C.V would be much better, as it climbs very well for a two-seater. But it won't be available until late 1916.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 07:42 PM

Funny you say that.

I started out with the morane and switched to the Be2. Before I found that my chances were pretty good, and even managed to send 5 Huns down, but now I feel like I'm in a death trap.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 08:14 PM

Well, the BE is the British Aviatik. But at least the Aviatik has two guns for observer, though awkwardly placed. Both planes are really slow and stable - ideal for two-seater work, unless there are enemies around!
Posted By: MFair

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 08:51 PM

Sub flight Ltn. Charles Chatterley returned from the Hospital on the 16th. All flights cancelled for the 17th and 18th but I did get word that a victory was confirmed which made him an ace!
July 19th, Morning patrol. We are to escort 5 BE's on a recon mission to Estrees-en-Chaussee. Close to target our flight leader McKay, goes in to a dive and when I follow we are headed straight for 6 EIII's.
This is what I call a target rich environment! I sent 2 to the deck and then spotted Purdom chasing an HA so I head for him. He sent the HA down in flames. We formed up together and spotted Mckay tangling with the last HA so we joined in. I sent this one down also. Mckay turned west so we all headed back to base with him. A nice day for RAF24!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 09:11 PM

The continuing career of Albert "Mushroom" Ward

19 Jul 1916 @ 14h26 Artillery Spotting South of Nieewpoort.

Soar lead the mission with Mesurier, Booker, Hervey, Parsons and myself accompanying. We were supposed to have 2 Nieups from RNAS-1 escorting us but 7 Nieups from RNAS-3 showed up and took the task. Oh happy days!!
We crossed the lines and took up our task feeling rather safe. I did see what I thought to be two enemy craft in the distance and below us but they made no attempt to interfere.
The mission was successful with no challenge from enemy craft. Mesurier did take some flak damage and left the formation to land. He had two days worth of damage to his Strutter but otherwise was unharmed.

Youtube video:


Please note that I am using Ankor's new shadow mod and was capturing test samples for him during the mission.
You will notice some aberration in the displays. When I turn shadowing off with the "0" key, I have no problems.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/19/14 09:38 PM



Flight Sub-Lt Alex Ackworth - RNAS 4 - Coudekerque - 19 July 1916 (Mission 20)

After two days grounded by the bad weather, it's back to the office ! I draw the afternoon mission as wingman of Flight Lt William Richmond for a bombing of enemy ground units east of Ypres. We are granted an escort of 3 Airco DH2s from Abeele and flight A with two Strutters will follow to finish the job.

Sky is blue again and we fly to the frontline, picking up the DH2s on the way. As usual they have some difficulties in following us and fall a little behind.

As we near our target, I am in trailing line with my leader, ready to release my bombs as soon as I hear him release his. I see two dots under us, far on our left who could be enemy aircraft, but we have plenty of time to do our bombing run before they close on us.

We are less than 2nm from target when my leader decides to abort the bombing run and go after the Fokkers. I decide to finish the run, but of course I don't have my leader signal anymore and my bombs miss the target. By the time I make a left turn to rejoin, I see the 3 DH2s falling down on the two Fokkers already fighting it out with Lt Richmond.

I have nothing to win in joining that fight, so I turn around and go hover on our side waiting for everyone. After a while I spot planes returning who turn out to be the Strutter and the three DH2s. Lt Richmond decides for a pit stop at Bailleul before going back to Coudekerque, so I land there with everyone else. Lt Richmond tells me he has shot down one of the Fokkers and the other one ran away.

(*) Since I had two no-fly days because of weather, I managed to negociate with the lady (who wanted to watch a girl movie on TV anyway) a break of my "no fly on week end rule" smile
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/20/14 04:08 AM


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Signed on to an alternate flight down to Bray and back Security Patrol. Nice day Broken clouds Flew at 90000 ft. No enemy contact.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/20/14 04:12 AM

wave
Thanks Lou for the wounded award.
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/20/14 05:46 AM

Carlton von Fisk
Kasta 33b, Verdun region



July 19:

Today's mission was to be a quick jaunt to the front with 3 Rolands. 2 Eindeckers would meet to escort us over the lines. Or, given the way the air war's going, perhaps we're protecting them. Something to think about.

In any event, they never showed. We hung around for awhile waiting for them to find us, then our leader diverted towards the front. Okay, fair enough.

Then he diverted again, this time for Mercy le Haut, an aerodrome only 2 miles or so from home. I fell back a little to try and find out what had happened: Were we aborting because of our lack of escort? Was someone having engine trouble? Were we being chased by two biplanes? Yes to # 3. I couldn't tell for sure given the range, but until Albatroses and Halberstadts show up I'm going to assume anything with two wings is hostile unless I can see their cross.

So my two partners tamely start circling Mercy le Haut. Standard landing procedures with two incoming probable hostiles sounds like a really bad idea, so I stayed low and kept going. I..uhm...can't read my writing, but there was another airfleld near by. (Xiary Cricourt? Something like that) No one chased me and I landed without incident and met a new friend.



During debriefing I learned the two incoming had been hostile and shots were exchanged. No one lost on either side.


July 20:

Another day, another chance to be chased out of the sky by Nieuports.

This time was a simple recon with only two airplanes. 'Eine' flight was supposed to help, but once we climbed to altitude they decided to do their own thing and leave us to our fate. Thanks guys.

While en route to the front... I don't know. I steadily lost ground to my flight leader. My engine sounded fine, but for some reason I just couldn't keep up. Nor did he show the least interest in waiting for me. When we crossed the lines he was 1.2 miles ahead, barely a dot.

Speaking of which, there were plenty of German planes out today. Right at the front I noticed an Eindecker flying high at right angles to us, apparently patrolling. Perhaps he saw the trouble before anyone else, for he lazily turned in my flight leader's direction.

Speaking of which, he first banked in a lazy circle, no doubt reconning and giving me a chance to catch up. Then he turned towards me fully.

I'm starting to be able to notice potential trouble before my TAC (at 1.1m) warns me, which is good as I spot the two dots closing on him. Zoom. Biplanes. Just so. I don't even bother waiting for my flight leader to catch up - I turn and run for the lines.

The Eindecker...finds something else to do. One of the biplanes starts duelling my leader. The other, a Nieuport 11, begins a full chase.

Plan A is to lead him over a nearby German regiment, and between their guns and mine we can either finish this guy or at least get him to leave. I cross the lines at 4K feet and begin my slow, waddling turn to the incoming Nieuport.

Unfortunately he flies over me and I can't bring my nose up in time to get a shot off. I continue the turn, and just like in Carlton's first flight this guy ends up at about 7:00 trying to get me in his sights while I hard left rudder. I can see the craft begin to shudder and force my nose down - harder than it looks - to pick up a little steam.

My observer is busy filing his nails, so it's the Nieuport who fires first. Nothing vital, but I've been watching a second dot slowly closing the gap. Friend? Foe? I can't take the chance. I dive to the deck and run.

The Nieuport chases me. The second dot, which also turns red, chases me. Two new planes join the chase. Zoom. Biplanes. It would be moderately glorious if they weren't trying to kill me.

My engine. Sound difference or no, there HAS to be something wrong. I couldn't keep up with m y flight leader, and now I can't outrace a Nieuport 11 even though on paper I should have a slight speed advantage (103 mph vs. 100). I'm flying as low as I dare over no man's land. The Nieuports chase me. The same guy fires again - miss. Then again, and fabric tears.

I have a goal now. An aerodrome - I forget the name, but I'm on course and it can't be more than 4 or 5 miles away. It's tempting to just land in no man's land and call it a day, especially as a huge forest now looms in front of me, but if I actually make it to the field that'll be moderately glorious.

So, we're flying over the forest at ... well, I'm going to guess it's tree top level. With the Roland's build my only clue as to my true height is to look down and between my wings, and I'm finding the trees whipping past my view rather intimidating. My observer FINALLY wakes up and opens fire. This answers for one of the Nieuports, who turns away only to come back about 15 or 20 seconds later.

The two latecomers to our chase have broken slightly to my right and are turning towards me, almost as if they were trying to steer me. They aren't the threat though: That one guy on my tail just won't give up. Another stream of bullets. I'm hit! Tearing fabric, and another sound I don't recognize. I lift my nose slightly, expecting a decline in aircraft performance: We're only 1 mile away now. It would be a shame to lose it this late in the race.

No decline in performance though, just an inviting target and he fires again. This time it's my Observer who's hit. This only seems to torque him off, as he replies with a furious barrage.

There's the aerodrome! I'm approaching it side on. I'm FACING the hangers. Too bad. Cut the engine at the last second and sail into the runway.

Bad angle! I jerk the nose up at the last moment, which causes the plane to bounce. Nose down, and I land on one wheel and my right wing! I must be going slow enough - the wing holds. A hard jerk on my rudder stabilizes the craft.

Mein Gott that was close.



Too close.

I'm out until Tuesday with a light wound. In the end, we lost our flight leader. We shot down zero of them.
Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/20/14 07:52 AM

We'll have to wait for the Pup - from Wiki: "The first Pups reached the Western Front in October 1916 with No. 8 Squadron RNAS, and proved successful [...] The first RFC Squadron to re-equip with the Pup was No. 54 Squadron, which arrived in France in December."

Apparently Sopwith were too busy making 1½ Strutters.
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/20/14 08:22 AM

Salut

finally broke the 25hr wall.

I never expected Basel to last this long, and now in the Be2 it seems only a matter of time before he's caught.
Because of this I didnt start a writing a story about this foxy pilot. His ultimate goal is to stay alive and switch
over to these new scouts that HQ says will change the air war to our good.... errr the BE12 I think they call it and Basel wants one.


Posted By: JimAttrill

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/20/14 09:02 AM

Note to all pilots: In the RNAS the lowest pilot rank is Flight sub-lieutenant, but if you take on a new pilot in the RFC he should start as a Sergeant.

Congratulations to Basel Brush who is not only an ace in a BE2c but has actually lasted more than 25 hours cheers
Posted By: LtCasey

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/20/14 11:12 AM

Gratulations Basel!!!!!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: The "DiD Campaign Revival" - Intro, Rules, Reports & Records Chart - 07/20/14 11:57 AM

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Well done lederhosen! That is a milestone Sir and it will no doubt garner you a DID Campaign Medal with Bar from Olham.

Artemus Burroughs had a milestone as well. His missions today pushed him over 50 hours. Oh, and he's a full Lieutenant now to boot.