"DCS World Has Stopped Working"!!!???

Hi guys.

I've spent all afternoon installing and trying to get DCS World to work.

Whenever I go to fly the game crashes and Windows displays a message "DCS World has stopped working".

It either happens as soon as I click on "fly", or after a minute or two of game time.

I've tried re-installing, updating, C++ updates, DirectX updates, unplugging peripherals, reverting my overclock. My temps are fine. I can't think of much else to try??? Why would Eagle Dynamics make a game that is such a PITA to get to work?

My system is:
i5 3570k
AMD 7970
8 gb RAM
Win 7

Have you tried turning down all the graphics settings? I found that when I enabled HDR, the game would tend to crash.

Also, in one particular mission it would always crash (Long day for SU25T). Other than that, I've had no problems.

Which Windows 7 are you using?

Well it should be no surprise to anyone DCS is full of errors as are all the modules. It should not be a surprise that things stop working. Like all of the Projects done by ED everyone has a lot of issues. I would hate to be a coder for ED it must be a nightmare fixing issues and end up breaking others. Lets hope they can get this all sorted out. They need time.

Have you checked the .crash log files? I've never experienced that error, nor have I heard of anyone who has persistently experienced that error.

Have you checked on the Digital Combat Simulator forums? There's a large number of posts discussing common problems and solutions. If you search there, you may find more information about your issue.

Hi. I did check the crash log, and amongst all the code, the one thing that stands out is a line stating "Access Violation". Not sure what that means???

I have googled this issue and it has come up quite a lot, but it seems to be happening to others for different reasons as their solutions haven't worked for me

Are you using 64 bit windows?

no windows 7 x 64 no go. Check to see if you have latest c++ , latest drivers. suggest re download and turn off all anti virus. I would do a clean uninstall of the program DCS-World. You only need Lockon and I would take it to v1.02 then download and install dcs-world. see if that works. I would also check and delete any starforce files in the registry. You will need administrator rights to do this.

Lock-On is not required to install or run DCS World.

The tip to reinstall the C++ redistributable and DirectX is a good one, I heartily second it.

Sorry, I'm running Win 7 - 64 bit.

I've tried reinstalling/updating c++ and directX and it is still happening.

Sounds like a 3d rendering problem. Go into graphics lua and turn off 3d rendering down near the bottom. When you start the game it'll show a black screen- but if it doesn't crash you can narrow it down to a graphics driver or card issue.

1. Is this your 1st installation ?
2. Have you install something that DCS assumed it as inproper and locked itself ?

I had a similar problem and mine turned out to be a memory timing problem. DCS World would crash when I ran my memory at the XMP timing, I turned it down to 1333 mhz and so far the constant crashing seems to be gone.

Hmm, well lets say your computer is not the problem then. Have you tried what I suggested, get a new download, do a clean uninstall, to use DCS-World you need an original copy of Lockon you don't need FC or FC2, load that then load DCS-world, new download. Before that, if you had FC or FC2 you need to get the starforce files out of the registry and you need admin. rights to do that. Now go ahead and reinstall everything. See if this solves the problem.

You DO NOT need Lock On or any variant for DCS World. Where in the world did you get that from??

All you need is DCS World for DCS World to run.

DCS World is FREE 100% Straight Up, and Comes with the SU-25T.

You do NOT need LoMAC, FC, FC2, A10, KA50, P51, CA, etc etc.


you should be able to download the latest ISO, Install it, and Run it, and fly the SU-25T without anything from ED/Ubisoft installed.

Post Crash Logs. from /<user>/Saved Games/DCS/Config/me log.

Note: install it due a contractual obligation they have with Ubisoft.

This is a requirement based on the ED site, install procedure for DCS-world, and actually they suggest FC as well.

Go to ED forums and read how to install DCS-world. It is there. Please don't confuse him.

They wouldnt, The fact that you're having problems doesnt mean everyone is.

nobody's system is 100% the same. plus you've obviously tweaked and overclocked yours, so it operates outside of the normal rules.

I run DCSW on 3 machines just fine. as does my brother.

This is For Flaming Cliffs 3.

I have DCSW on 3 machines plus my brother's and I have never touched or owned LockOn or Flaming Cliffs / FC2.


Eagle Dynamics / The Fighter Collection Broke Off from Ubisoft when they Started the DCS Series Brand.

Lock On is required for Flaming Cliffs 1,2 and 3, not DCS World.


From Matt Wagner himself:

I would like to confirm that. LockOn is _not_ required for DCS World and the Su-25T. LockOn is only required if you are installing Flaming Cliffs 2 or for the upcoming Flaming Cliffs 3.

I recommend re-downloading DCS World 1.2.1 from the DCS site and installing it (checking the boxes for DirectX and the C++ redistributable). I know it's a pain in the arse and with a bunch of people helping its going to feel mighty confusing.

Yes this is quite true but might as well get it all set up and ready for all modules.

Thanks for correction. It gets mind boggling after a while.LOL

If it is that confusing for you. Please don't try to help others.

THIS IS

THIS WAS A LITTLE JOKE . BETTER FOR YOU TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION THAN TO QUESTION ME. I KNOW HOW TO HELP PEOPLE AND BEEN DOING IT LONGER THAN YOU. YES POSITIVE OF THAT(ANSWER TO YOUR NEXT QUESTION).

it didnt seem like you were joking.

^^^^ This.

...and thanks for answering my next question. I thought so.

TO BOTH (SEEMS) KEY WORD CHEERS.

Says the guy that registered in Sept. 2012 vs the guy that registered in March 2012

Vs Me who registered originally in 2001.

Doesn't matter when someone registered. Only takes a working pair of MK 1 eyeballs and 2 minutes reading at the download page.
http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/in...uct&lang=en

As skate was noting is right on. If you give bad info it just confuses the OP and makes his/her problem worse.

Best thing to do when corrected is simply acknowledge it and clear the posts with the wrong info. Happens to everyone at some point.

Admin used Fire Extinguisher to stop Flame War. Was it effective?

Seriously, folks, this thread's beginning to smell sour. Cut it. If you don't have anything constructive to say on topic, move along.

Hi all. Thanks for the advice so far.

I re-installed for a 3rd time and updated my DirectX and C++ again but still the same result.

I went into graphics settings and reduced some of the quality settings, and the game seems to be crashing less frequently now (although still an issue).

Could it be my RAM which is clocked at 1600 as mentioned previously?

Give your detailed System Specs.

Mainboard, CPU, RAM (How Many Sticks), etc etc.

If you have any overclocks applied it wont hurt to remove them and try it.
Also the normal things like defrag and driver updates.

Nooooooooo! I come back to flight simming and try out A-10C again and I get 'DCS has stopped working'!!!

Trying a total re-installation now.....Grrrrrrrr...

EDIT: OK, had a major brain fart then realised this sounded familiar and it turns out it was solved by Nate http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?p=1505481#post1505481

I have a Thrustmaster wheel that was causing it to crash, just unplugged it now and DCS World is working now and just flown the 25T, still have to re-install everything though as I remembered AFTER I had uninstalled lol, so try this if you have any USB devices that you don't need to fly (excluding mouse and keyboard obviously) and see if that fixes the crashes.

Interesting. Personally I disconnect everything I'm not using (aside from TrackIR which stays plugged in 24/7) more because of a lack of room to leave things connected!
So my sticks are disconnected if I'm not flying, my wheel is disconnected if I'm not racing, my external HD is disconnected if I'm not backing up, etc.



The Jedi Master

I was going to disconnect my wheel anyway as when I turn on my PC and all the USB devices fire up the wheel goes through a test state and turns the wheel itself, almost jumped off the desk when it did it lol, just caught it

shoot, looking my external HDD connected causes a crash on debrief, lol.. so I unplug it. as it spins down after 10 minutes anyway.

I've tried unplugging my wheel but still has the same issues. I'l try unplugging my wireless xbox controller receiver, it might have issues with that as well.

My PC specs are:

Asrock z77 Extreme 4 Pro motherboard
Intel i5 3570k CPU
Sapphire 7970 OC GPU
Cosair Vengeance 2x4 gb DDR3 1600 RAM
Samsung 830 128gb SSD
Win 7 64 bit.

Just a thought. Do you think something could be wrong with a piece of your PC hardware? I did and found it was my PSU not working properly. Worked great after replacement. Just a thought. Seems funny it would just start acting up. That's why I mention this.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=96507

A link to an error we are experiencing. If you open your log do you see similar entries? Anyone else see these?

OK, disconnected all ancillary USB devices and it's still crashing on me.

I'm just about ready to give up on ED. All my other games are working fine, eg. Rise of Flight, iRacing, Deus Ex: HR.

This is what my latest crash log reads if anyone is smart enough to make sense of it (I'm not!):

# -------------- 20121104-013932 --------------
C:\Windows\system32\MSVCR100.dll
# C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 6B9FC159 01:0003B159
00000000 00000000 0000:00000000
6B9FC159 0016D990 0001:0003B159 C:\Windows\system32\MSVCR100.dll memcpy()+1C9
E18C392C 0016D9C0 0000:00000000 ?InitSmallShit@edtg@@YAXPEAUhandle_renderitem@1@AEAUTerrainOptions@1@@Z()+4B0C
E18CC129 0016DBE0 0000:00000000 ?ParseSurface@edtg@@YA_NPEAUhandle_renderitem@1@AEBVVec3f@osg@@AEBVMatrixf@4@2AEBUGlobalLights@1@AEBVFog@edcg@@AEBUTerrainOptions@1@PEAX@Z()+3C9
E18BDD2C 0016E3D0 0000:00000000 ?DeleteSmallShitRenderItem@edtg@@YAXPEAUhandle_renderitem@1@@Z()+5FC
E18BE4C1 0016E410 0000:00000000 ?ParseSmallShit@edtg@@YAXPEAUhandle_renderitem@1@AEBVVec3f@osg@@1AEBUTerrainOptions@1@PEAX@Z()+51
F8A4F010 0016EC50 0000:00000000 ?RenderSurface@SceneManager_Implement@@AEAAXPEAVsmCamera_Implement@@W4eDrawRoutines@edtg@@PEAUhandle_renderitem@4@AEBUTerrainOptions@4@@Z()+CF0
F8A4F579 0016EF10 0000:00000000 ?RenderScene@SceneManager_Implement@@QEAAXPEAVsmCamera@@_N@Z()+289
F8A5201A 0016F030 0000:00000000 ?RenderMain@SceneManager_Implement@@UEAAXAEBVdPosition@@W4vCameraType_e@@AEBUViewport@smSceneManager@@@Z()+48A
F8A53123 0016F240 0000:00000000 ?Render@SceneManager_Implement@@UEAAXXZ()+5D3
3F38950B 0016F2D0 0000:00000000
3F38C22D 0016F330 0000:00000000
3F3A32B4 0016F360 0000:00000000
3F3A31A9 0016F3C0 0000:00000000
3F428098 0016F430 0000:00000000
3F4294D8 0016F920 0000:00000000
3F42BEBF 0016F9D0 0000:00000000
773B652D 0016FA00 0001:0001552D C:\Windows\system32\kernel32.dll BaseThreadInitThunk()+D
7784C521 0016FA50 0001:0002B521 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll RtlUserThreadStart()+21

Is your RAM running @1600? I ask because while I have 1600 RAM, it works better @1333. I get BSODs and other instabilities from time to time @1600 and I just gave up and leave it at 1333.

Also, do you have any other programs running? Things that live in the systray that you don't need when running DCSW? Might want to run with a minimal load to test.

You also didn't mention your video drivers. Do you have the latest from AMD? Might be worth a shot.




The Jedi Master

I believe my RAM is running at 1600, how would I throttle it back to 1333?

I noticed in the crash log I posted above it refers to "system32". Does this indicate that it is running in 32bit mode when my Win 7 is 64 bit?

this is 1 of 3 things.

- Ram Corruption (Run Memtest 1 stick at a time, at least 7 passes per stick).
- GPU Driver/GPu Hardware (Run Furmark Bench a few times.)
- System Files. (Well, SFC /scannow will scan, but it wont restores in Win7).

So.
You can try dropping to DDR1333

My brother was getting the same C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION in Mozilla at least 100 times a day, it turned out to be memory, and we made it worse when we doubled his RAM (adding 2 more sticks), we fixed the problem completely by upping the IMC Voltage a Hair. I havent worked with Intel Chips in a While, So I dunno if there is a BIOS option for memory controller voltage.

if You want Help, Post this on Eagle Dynamics (your problem and crash log).

http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=187

Well, my i7 mobo lets me change RAM voltage and timings as well.

I can't really offer specifics because different boards do things differently, but there should be a macro setting like "auto", "XMP" (maybe), and specific speeds like 1333, 1600, and others in your BIOS. I recommend lowering RAM speed before raising voltage because quite simply underclocking RAM won't hurt a thing but performance, while overvoltage could damage something if you're unlucky.

As for whether you're using 32 or 64 bit, that's easy to check. Go into your video options in DCS. If it gives you the option to pick "high" for textures and things, you're in 64 bit. If there's no option higher than "medium" for some of them, you're in 32 bit.



The Jedi Master

Intel XMP Should be stable.

Most mainboards and chips I've dealt with in the past have "guidelines"

ie, 2 Sticks you can run DDR1600, 4 sticks they recommend you drop to DDR1333.


Like i said though, i havent dealth with intel chips in a while, as AMD has been plenty worth it for me.

AMD Chips that I've used in the last 5 years and prolly before, have a separate Voltage for teh Integrated memory controller on the chip.

So,

CPU Voltage (Voltage to CPU Cores)
Memory Voltage (Voltage to Memory DIMMs)
IMC Voltage. (Voltage to Integrated Memory Controller on the CPU).

Intel might have something similar.

But I never saw detailed system specs other than the cryptic specs in your sig.

4 sticks of ram vs 2 sticks does change the potential solutions.

4 sticks you should be running DDR1333, unless you specifically know what you are doing with manually setting timings, frequency and voltage.

I'd also look into making sure the Intel HD 4000 onboard GPU Cores are Disabled.

Hmmm, I've just started to get the same error in Rise of Flight, so maybe it's not specific to DCS.

Thanks for the tips Skate Zilla, I'll do some testing and see how I go.

I checked my BIOS and my RAM is running at 1333, not 1600.

Hello,

I read through but did not see... have you tried downclocking your GPU a bit?


good luck.

Yep, took it back to stock levels and still the error.

I've ran memtest on each RAM stick for about 4 hours each and haven't come across any errors.
I've also ran Heaven Unigine for over an hour on max settings and no errors.

Anyone else got any ideas?....

OK guys, I think I've finally sorted this out.

It seems that DCS gives my CPU a workout that even programs like Prime95 doesn't give.

So although I reduced my clock speed considerably where even the most demanding stress-tests didn't activate a problem after being run for hours, DCS was still crashing.

Now that I completely reduced the clock speed and voltage, DCS seems to be working OK.

Fingers crossed.

so your OC was prolly unstable on a core or something.

I personally don't think it's got anything to do with your hardware. I get DCS stopped working in 1.2.1 and Application hang DCS.exe in 1.2.2 and my PC is newly built.

1.1.1.1 is pretty stable, try going back to that version, see how you get on. You never know they may find the bug and fix it so you can go back to 1.2.2

Cheers
D

That sounds pretty tempting at this point.