Enabling Swastikas

I've tried the method recommended on the YuPlay forums for enabling swastikas in the game by editing the ini file, but it doesn't work for me. Any suggestions?

I don't think it works --- a bug --- I have tried the recommended solution as well to no effect

It seems that the BLK file is not really where configuration information is stored. I have looked at it and it does not reflect my true configuration settings which are being saved elsewhere.

SB

Thanks SB, that would explain it. Hopefully they will correct this, takes from the historic realism of the game, doesn't it?

Well it supposedly was working in the beta so a fix should not be a problem for them.

When they add skins, a QMB, and mission editor I doubt I'll have a reason to fly good ole IL2. On max settings this simulation has unbelievable atmospherics. Really shows you how long in the tooth IL2 is.

What strikes me is how well it runs on my P4-settings at high,looks wonderful and perfectly smoothly.

Here's the fix! from the Yuplay forum

NO ini i game root!

Change INI in C:/DOCUMENTS/MY GAMES/WINGS OF PREY/config.blk

put the required line in that config.blk file NOT the one located in the game's root directory

Should work!

S~!

I tried putting

debug { swastika:b=true;}

into the blk file of the proper directory.

Not working for me.

debug{
noVignette:b=no
swastika:b=yes
}

The entry should be put in the ini file as above and not seperately. Works for me now. Thanks to 1SMV BJ over on the YuPlay forums for this valuable tip.

Ah! Yes, that's it! It works now, thank Sky, those silly little x's wasn't cutting it. Planes look much more menacing now.

Craterman, we're not little boys, eh?, we can take this full realism and no danger we'll turn into nazis as a result. Unfortunate that people think a nazi characteristic(mind-control) is apt in order to 'prevent its return'.

History is history. Those who try to change it are the most dangerous of all.

Gentleman, relax. This topic has been beat to death in the IL-2 Forum. The end result was, and is, if you have the option and want to exercise it, fine. If you don't, don't. A historic FW-190 most likely has a swastika on the tail. It just does. If that doesn't suit your fancy, take it off. No harm done.

I guess you're right, no point in flogging a dead horse, though one could argue this is a new game and we can start again lol.

debug{
noVignette:b=no ---- can also should be no if you don't want the vignetting turned on (tested works)
swastika:b=yes ---- the important line - must be in the 'debug section' in order to work
}

Well spoken, I just went a couple rounds with my son's highschool, The new history books have almost nothing concerning WWII.
The teacher actually told me they don't want to offend people while teaching history ! I just about went off the deep end. I mean I have seen a ton of polls saying that 60% of all youth under 21 don't believe that the holocaust happened. I didn't believe those polls but now I'm starting to believe their right. I have been asking my son's friends questions here and there and most of them don't believe that the holocaust happened. Heck most of them think America faked going to the moon !
I really feel like parts of history are being slowly wiped out of education due to being politicaly correct. The teacher told me that within 4 years all the history books in the US will be like this one, so I should just get used to it.
DESODE

'If one doesn't learn the lessons of history, one is doomed to repeat it.'

OK guys, we are not going to go there with this. This was a subject that was debated until the point of nausea again and again in the IL2 forum, the EAW forum and the Janes WW2 Fighters forum when we had it.



Get it?

If you don't want the thing on your plane don't change the file. If you do then go ahead. If you want to argue the political factors of this set of pixels on an airplane go to the WCE and do it.

This is not the forum for political discussions. It can be enabled in the game so asking the question is justified. If the ability to enable it offends you then you shouldn't have bought the game.

LOL Love the Icon ! Thats a thing of beauty. I didn't realize this had been some heated political debate at one point on here.
DESODE

Ohhhhhh Yeahhhhh. The IL2 forums has several threads that required neoprene suits just to enter.

It was ugly.

I enabled it, but what I get, on the tail, is an "X", not a swastika.

Lol! thought you were talking about the horse. You must ensure you are in My Documents/My Games/Wings of Prey/Confi.blk and that the text is within the same brackets as 'NoVignette'. If you put it in its own seperate brackets it will not work.

Should look like this

noVignette:b=no ---- can also should be yes if you don't want the vignetting turned on (tested works)
swastika:b=yes ---- the important line - must be in the 'debug section' in order to work

Why would they not allready have swastikas on german planes??

Political correctness. Afraid to offend some people with history.
DESODE

They risk lawsuits to be fair to them Desode.
Its not Political correctness on thier part so much as legally covering thier butts...

right, in some countries the selling would have been prohibited as a result.

Michael.

Can't seem to get it to work on the STEAM version

The germans during ww2 for the most part were just people fighting a war. Most of them were good people like anyone, anywhere else and had no idea about the holocost thing and it is rediculas to suggest they did. The swastica was just a symbol like americans had the blue star and russia had the red star etc. Im wearing a maltese cross ring as i write. Not because I condone the houlocost but because people are sometimes freaky about nazi symbols and i like the ring. They should have put ALL correct symbols on the american version of the game. Its a Constitutional 1st amendmant right here. Would be nice if they just made an optional historically correct patch. Remember, its only the people that won the war that write the history if that tells you anything. The germans soldiers did A lot of terrable things and so did the americans and russsians etc. The only differance is the winners write history and they brush their own dirty parts under the rug.
Sorry you guys had to read all this. For $50, I want a Ju-87g to fly and i want it to have swasticas on it. I also want it to show little symbols under the canopy of all the allied planes it shot down. It would really be nice if modders got a hold of this game in the future like they do with "battlefield 2" and others.
By the way, I din't see the "de-bug" thing in the demo. I couldnt turn my swastikas on.

The Nazi movement was an ideological movement founded in 1919 and led by Adolf Hitler. The entire party was based on ideas of German racial superiority, it promoted territorial expansion, blamed the Jews for the ills of Germany and called for their removal from the German society. Over 50% of the population were members of this party, thats how they came into power. They were the majority of the germany. The hatred of the jews was a major founding belief that everyone new about. They used socialism to control the minority population so they were dependent on the government for everything , they had to fall in line.

Now that said , Yes atleast 40% of the population didn't agree and probably never new about the holocaust, and I'm sure that there were people in the Nazi party that didn't all know about the holocaust. But everyone in the Nazi party new that one of the top 3 founding princibles was hatred of the jews and to remove them from german society.

The difference in say America's conflict against African Americans and slavery is, the fact that half the country started a civil war to free the slaves.
A example, We haven't banned the confederate flag, and the reason is the confederate flag was not based on the hatred of Africans, and the promotion of slavery. It was not a core princible on which the flag/symbol or the south was based on.
Some people connect the confederate flag with the promotion of slavery, but there is no true bases to connect it to, atleast not based on the history of that flag.

My relatives left germany and came to america when the Nazi party became the majority of the population. My great Grandmother told my grandmother that even before the nazi party took over, the hatred of the jews was such that they were fired from jobs and treated as if they weren't human beings. This was in a small town in the country side far away from any of the major citys. I'd say that in my opinion shows me that this racial hatred of the jews was that wide spread and it explains how the Nazi party won control with removal and hatred of the jews as a unhiden core princible.


DESODE

The civil war between the U.S.A. and C.S.A. was NOT a result of slavery. the Emancipation Proclamation and freeing of slaves came from the mere need for the union to ruin the C.S.A. economy AFTER the war had allready started. No offence to anyone but Lincoln was not the hero everyone changes history and makes him out to be. The freeing of the slaves was un-popular by the majority of the north and was NOT the cause of the american civil war. It was a by-product of it and only applied to 10 states in the C.S.A. Also, it dint include maryland, the newly forming west virginia, tennesee and others cause the north allready had control of them.
As an example: Maryland is below the mason dixon line (like tennesee) but the north had control of it allready so it was not included in the Emancipation Proclamation. (yes, there were many slaves in maryland)
They CAN't BAN the flag of the C.S.A now because the 1st amendmant constitutional rights of the U.S.A protect it. Also, it still to this day flies over the state capitol of south carolina and many other places in the south. It has nothing to do with slavery. The civil war was NOT started to free the slaves, it was started to stop the succesion of the south which from what i see of the criminals we have as polotitions now and the raping of our constitution by the supreme court and the patriot act, makes it a damm shame.
Many of my relatives fought in the civil war.

My .blk file looks just like 13th_Hsqn_Protos' and still not enabled.

I agree 100% ! Sorry if you misunderstood my belief on why the civil war was started. I was in no way saying it was all about slavery.
Slavery was a part of it but it is in NO way at its core.
It was a battle over state rights and in my book America is WAY worse off because the south lost ! I'm completly against the federal government telling states how to run their buisness.
I believe in equality for all 100% but I think the Fedral government has no right to do what they are doing now.
America died the day the states lost their rights ! It was the beginning of the end of what the constitution and the founding fathers wanted America to be.
It also began the ugly road of the American people losing most of their power and their country. B Franklin described America as a chess board. He said its easy to tell when there is cheating going on with 32 peices on the board. When the federal government gets to much power and control you have a chess board with a 1000 peices on it and you can tell if there is cheating going on.
Thats the way I veiw America also.

States are like small countrys, They were created to be ran as such. This way they compete against each other and the best ideas win out. Also, this way the people have more control, and they can see the corruption and stop it. Once the Federal government gets so Big and powerful, the People lose the ability to stop the corruption. The corruption grows like a weed with payoffs and 3000 page bills that our represenatives don't even read yet vote for it !

America is just like Rome. Before it fell, everyone was saying "Who will watch the watchers" Its the same here in America. When Big government grows the people suffer and they lose control of their country ! Its written in history time and time again.
Its weird how no one seems to grasp such a simple concept. Bigger is almost always worse ! It never lasts in any form of government or country. Its not possible to manage on a huge level and the peoples voices is always drowned out.

Still for some reason people think it can be done, but it will never be done without the people suffering from it in the long run.

So you see , I feel very strongly that the civil war wasn't just about slavery. Sorry if I didn't explain that better.

Desode

Snake! Do you have the STEAM version by any chance?

BULL

Yep! It is the STEAM version.

What folder are you guys changing the BLK in ?
I don't have the steam version but in my version there is two folders in different locations with blk files. One did nothing and the other worked. they were the same file,identical.
DESODE

For my version I had to change the Blk in documents/mygames/Wings of prey.
Even though there is a Blk file where the game is installed ,that one did nothing. Check and see if you have the second Blk in the other spot.
DESODE

I changed the .blk file in Administrator/documents/my games/Wings Of Prey
My config.blk file:
autocheck:b=yes
graphicsQuality:t="max"
language:t="English"

directx{
maxaa:i=4
}

render{
selfReflection:b=yes
shadows:b=yes
motionBlur:b=yes
selfShadows:b=yes
haze:b=yes
waterReflection:b=yes
softFx:b=yes
}

graphics{
texquality:t="ultrahigh"
visRange:t="high"
anisotropy:i=16
}

video{
resolution:t="5760 x 1200"
windowed:b=no
vsync:b=yes
}

sound{
speakerMode:t="stereo"
fmod_sound_enable:b=yes
}

mouse{
sensZ:r=1
sensY:r=1
invertY:b=no
sensX:r=1
}

debug{
noVignette:b=no
swastika:b=yes
}

Search around and see if you can find another blk file. Keep in mind this is just a suggestion. I just know my install made 2 of them in different spots.
You could run a search onyour windows for either config or extension BLk.
See what it turns up.
I could be something where sense its a steam game it has another Blk in a Wop folder asociated with steam.
DESDOE

desode, i can feel ya.

Hey Snake - I have the Steam version and made changes to the Administrator/documents/my games/Wings Of Prey/Config.blk as well - no joy. Have you had any luck getting swastikas? Sure doesn't seem like this would be complicated to accomplish but so far the solution has eluded me. Thanks Raf

Make sure it looks like this.

Look at this thread , apparently, the Steam version was "cleaned". Looks like the removed the textures from the download and offer it for a "nominal" price. While this may be legally correct, it leaves a strange taste for me. I'd recon they could have "leaked" the textures or unlock code, which would cover their backs legally as well and everyone got what he wants.

And I said that I wasn't going to get involved with this.

Ok, there are several different arguments that I can make against this. I had family that fought on both sides of the conflict. My Great great great grandfather fought at the Battle of Sabine Pass http://www.wtblock.com/wtblockjr/battleof.htm and was one of a few Confederate soldiers to actually get a medal in the war. I have done a fair amount of research on the war.

First off, the origins of the Civil War did have slavery as its focus. Yes, it is true that the South seceded based upon its concepts of State's rights vs the rule of the Federal Government but in reality the driving force behind the secessionist movement was the right to own slaves. The Southern Gentry, the political class primarily responsible for secessionist movement looked upon the growing power base in the North with fear. Until the 1840s the South was the political and the military source of power for the United States and that dominance was fast starting to wane by the 1850s. The loss of Kansas as a potential slave state in the fighting of the 'Bloody Kansas' wars of the 1850s cemented the view of many Southerners that the North would eventually exert its control over the South and would make these landed Gentry give up their 'property'. These people were the ones that led the secessionist movements in the late 1850s and the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860 simply cemented the fears of these leaders of the South.

As for Lincoln, he never ran on a platform of eliminating slavery in the South. In fact, until 1863 he continued to hold fast to the policy that if the Southern States returned to the Union there would be no elimination of slavery in the South. Lincoln originally ordered Union commanders to return escaped slaves to their owners, he was hoping that cooler heads would prevail. He had a famous quote, "If I could preserve the Union by freeing all of the slaves I would do it. If I could preserve it by freeing none of the slaves I would do that and if I could preserve the Union by freeing some slaves and keeping others enslaved I would do that too." Even after the Emancipation Proclamation was read not all slaves were officially freed. Slaves in Maryland, Delaware, Missouri and Kentucky, the four Southern States that did not leave the Union, were not included in the Proclamation. The EP only covered slaves in states that seceded from the Union. It wasn't until the 13th Ammendment that slavery was officially abolished.

In reality, the EP was actually used as a ploy to continue interest in the war. Up until Antietem the war had been a disaster for the Union forces. Again and again the Union Army of the Potomac was embarrased. Lincoln knew that the North was getting pretty tired of the war. Up until 1863 the entire focus of the war was the retention of the Union. Most of the early volunteers for the Union Army joined simply because they wanted to retain the Union. It was thought that the Southern secession was illegal and that this war was simply one to bring the union back together. Once it was realized that this war was not going to be an easy war many in the North began to wonder about the need for the Southern States. If Lee had won at Gettysburg (and he came darned close) then Lincoln more than likely would have lost re-election and McClellan would have won the Presidency. That would have meant a Southern Confederacy.

The Emancipation Proclamation turned the war from a political conflict into a moral one. The war shifted in its focus after the EP was put in place. In reality there was a lot of conflict among Union troops initially. Many didn't think that this war should be one of liberation and it took a while for the focus to shift to that.

In all honesty, I bristle when people say the war wasn't about slavery. It was entirely about slavery. If Lincoln, a member of an abolitionist party, hadn't been elected then it is unlikely that the South would have seceded. Even after Lincoln assured the South that he wouldn't eliminate slavery they still left the Union. In fact, most Southern States seceded before Lincoln even took office. Yes, it was a state's rights issue but it was an issue about a state's right to own another human being. I should also point out that the vast majority, 2/3 of the white population owned no slaves and less than 1% owned 50 or more slaves. Most of the slaves were on plantations and averaged 20 or more. Very few Southern whites, the ones that actually died in the war, actually owned another human being.

Sorry, this has been a fascinating subject for me for years and I have read quite a bit about it. Many Southerners, many of them friends of mine, have a hard time reconciling the causes of the Civil War with the reasons for it starting. The rationalle for the war doesn't diminish the bravery and the fantastic accomplishments of their leaders but the 'cause', as it was called, was not as noble as many of the Southern leadership tried to make it. In all honesty, many of the major leaders of the Confederate military, to include Robert E. Lee, James Longstreet, and PGT Beauregard after the war acknowleged that the concept of slavery was something that the South shouldn't have fought for. Lee was never for the war but he felt more loyalty to his state over his country. Before the Civil War this was a concept that many individuals held. It wasn't until the restoration of the Union in 1865 that this thought pattern was eventually diminished in the South.

Simple.

If showing swatiskas is allowed in Israel...

http://www.degem.net/viewart.php?artid=108

http://www.degem.net/viewart.php?artid=53

... it should be allowed everywhere in the world, of course only for historical or documentary reasons.

Case closed (so tired I am of the PC brigade).

Btw, I won't buy the game, if HISTORICALLY-accurate markings cannot be shown.

I am really impressed. Thank you.

Michael

i didint bput the debug in or vinagerette but it works ok for me just putting swastikas:=no

Just buy it from Yuplay and then you will be able to have the marking enabled.

I just got my swastikas working. Remember, the config.blk file that you change is not the one in your Wop files in the program files. Mine was in C;coochie/documents and settings/ documents/ my games/wop etc.

My wop game is actually installed on my d drive/ program files etc. and there is a config.blk file in there also but that is not the one you change.

They said that the yuplay version will have this removed in a future update.

Hi chaps,

I tried adding the lines to the config file(s) but,as reported, it didn't work with the Steam version but I did manager to enable the marking by the following method.

In game goto the Options menu and then to the General menu. Scroll down to the bottom and click on Historical Decals and change it to yes and apply. Thjis took me to the login screen for the Yuplay website and an option to enable historical decal. I applied this download autoatically. Restarted the game and then went back to the Options -- General menu again and selected yes for the Historical Decals and hey presto they were applied in game. I am in the UK by the way.

Regards

Aces

Edit: Kudos to the devs for providing this option for those of us that like their decals historical

Well, that's the official way to get the decals in the UK. The problem is activating them with IPs from France, Germany and in that respect similar countries. You just used the settings as you should.

Michael

The swastika issue bothers me no end. For chrissakes symbols have no power, unless you have a weak mind. And I need no more additional reminders of the current Orwellian state of affairs.

Well said.

Michael.

Where you from, Rotagen?
I'm going shopping for TP later on, thought I might pick up your nation's flag to use.
Or perhaps you could get a swastika tattoed on your forehead, and enjoy the reactions of the weakminded.

Of course symbols have power. That's why they're called symbols.

Obviously, the act of tatooing a symbol on one's forehead carries considerable symbolic power in itself. Simply wishing for historic accuracy in a wwii flight simulator hardly counts as an equally extreme act, surely? I, for one, am no closet nazi sympathizer, and feel no guilt in wishing for swastikas, think guilt would be absurd. But I would certainly consider someone who mutilates their forehead with a swastika most likely to be a strong nazi supporter.

Study the origin of the swastika; read a book. It has nothing to do with nazis unless you wish it to, or society tells you to.

It's a game, grow up.

A guy with a swastika on his forehead needs attention, therefore...ignore him.

I'd happily wipe my arse with any flag you give me, if no TP is handy, especially an american flag. Oh yeah. I'm a 'Mercan. LOL. I give not a sh*t. (hey, thats almost poetic).

And if you wouldn't do the same with the aussie flag (basically a minor variation on the brit flag because of their "owned" status for so many years), remind me to never go camping with you. hehe.

You could try leaves...

I have found how to have swastikas on the german planes.
Try to download the following version.Wings of Prey Collectors Edition (2011) [PCDVD][MULTi9][WwW.ZoNaTorrent.CoM].iso
Install the game. start it. When you are asked to install "youplay", do not do it. When you are asked to join any server, do not do it.
go to options, look for the line historical decals, say yes. Done! Now the german planes will depict a swastika on their tails. The history will therefore not be insulted.
I think that this version has been re-engineered to allow the change.