looking for ATF Nato Fighters

hi I am looking for Jane's NATO Fighters - this expansion on its own is what i am after, so let me know if you have a copy to sell?

careful about buying OLD sims.. we think we will love playing them but I bought a boat load and the graphics are HORRIBLE now... your brain will not see them the same...

i beg to differ - i actually really like the old graphics of such games, i am a collector of old and often broken games.

i even like the graphics of Their Finest Hour still so - these old games and their garish graphics get all my love!

It appears Amazon has it

https://www.amazon.com/Janes-Advanced-Tactical-Fighters-Windows-MS-DOS/dp/B0007PI7I0

Forum member damson plays all these old Jane's sims. Search his posts for vids.

ATF was one of my favorite sims ever. Good stuff.

thanks - though unfortunately i am in australia and for some inexplicable reason amazon never allows for 2nd hand sellers to ship to australia

also, i am specifically after the NATO Fighters expansion

there is one copy up for auction on ebay but they arent shipping to australia either most annoyingly and i have no alternate uk forwarding address

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/264423011186?ul_noapp=true

https://www.old-games.com/download/4165/atf-advanced-tactical-fighters

thanks, yes i know of the online sites and gettign the game that way is easy, but i am specifcally after the physical product - i like to collect big box old pc games as well as play them

How about this?

At the risk of running afoul of some legality, or other nefarious possibilities

https://www.myabandonware.com/game/jane-s-combat-simulations-atf-nato-fighters-dfb

Can be taken down if I violated something.

thanks though as mentioned it is specifically the physical item and box i am after

regarding myabandonware, i am not sure what the go with that site is, i mean i have seen elsewhere it accepted as legit in what its doing and it has advertising and i am sure i have seen some actual developers of some games talking in the comments too on some games, plus they will direct to like gog.com if games are available there already, - i go to that site not so much for the games themselves but rather for the extras like patches and manuals they may have

I'll look when I get a chance to see if I still have it

awesome - if you do have a boxed copy and willing to sell to me in australia i would be interested - i guess depending ont he price, as i just got back message from an ebay seller in the uk though for postage they want like $70 AUD (which is far higher than what games posted from the UK usually cost)

I might have a disk still in a case. I don't know if I have the actual box; that might be asking too much on my end.

Been through two old boxes, but have't found ATF. I have two more in the basement I'll go through this week.

thank you for your perseverance on this

and thanks Reschke too - i am trying to get it with the box - i like to collect the old games in their boxes if i can